Asides from faster busses and dual processors and (finally) 64-bit addressing, how much further have we really come?
Personally I've seen significant development in the last 10 years. Back 12 years ago, when I was at university studying electrical engineering, we were discussing the potential of radio modulation being done entirely in software - what a novel concept that was back then! When the i386 came out I was amazed at things like barrel shifters, and protected memory - protected memory, what a boon that was to multi-process operating systems! Then things got really complicated, with memory register sets for advanced multimedia computations; and chips handling multiple levels of security (now we have the hypervisor).
Whilst the desktop chips were becoming too complex for any single individual to understand (much like the motor car) the embedded chip market also changed.. 32 bits is now common in embedded applications; surface mount components and chips were just entering the market when I left university; now you'd be lucky to ever identify the value of a resister on a circuit board.. circuit boards are rarely a single layer any more.
Ten years ago the recording industry thought it had a monopoly on media distribution and charged us accordingly taking us for the suckers we were. Then the computer industry got smart and the networking industry prevailed. Now we have more lawyers than technicians thinking they have a say in technology.
As far as I'm concerned there's been an enormous amount of development in the last decade, to the point where I believe I can't keep up. I used to know everything I wanted to know about PCs. Now I don't. And I can't be bothered trying to learn as 2-3 years later a new chipset/architecture comes out. I certainly don't want to update my Microsoft operating systems as I'm convinced they will only restrict what I can do (DRM) rather than enhance what I can do.
The fact is that capitalism, which seeks to promote efficient and desired activity through profit seeking, is completely incompatible with the legal system and judiciary which seek to arbitrarily impose non-natural constraints on behaviour.
I realise that I'm commenter number 480+ so it's likely no one will read this. Anyway I've been thinking about this; I'd be quite happy to pay for access to a number of sites if we were talking cents (or pennies) or fractions thereof. Problem is I can't be bothered starting a new subscription agreement, a new password, a new account for every site with which I'd like to interact.
The earlier initiatives of one log in for multiple sites would be a great solution if it weren't for our inherent distrust of storing confidential information with one company. But if I could have one log in shared across all fee-charging sites and then selectively allow sites to charge me (like I selectively allow sites to execute javascript on my firefox client) then that is something I'd seriously consider.
There's a big difference between charging $1.00 or 70p for a newspaper in cash and requiring a subscription agreement or getting someone to enter their 16 digit credit card number, address, and 3 digit security code every time they wanted to check the latest sports news.
So solve the convenience issue. In a way we can feel relatively secure.
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Why not just chase him around the yard with a baseball bat?
Admittedly I was at the old age of 14 when I first read K&R cover-to-cover but I found it inspirational, clear, and concise.. and that was the 1st edition. Learning C blew my mind and made other languages at the time (Basic, Pascal) seem like toy languages. It also gave me a thirst for understanding assembler.
The clearest alternative programming language I've encountered must have been Microchip PIC RISC assembler - the datasheets for the 16F84 (and 16C84) very clearly explain the small instruction set.
I'm not sure I would have understood pointers to the extent that I did at 14 at a younger age. Who knows. I guess when a child is ready they will learn whatever it is they want to learn.
I probably would steer well clear of Python in terms of a teaching language. That's probably because I keep well clear of Python in the real world.
Voting is broken. Sure, a percentage of the population wants to vote The Pirate Party in. But that percentage is not a majority in any one constituency. The only way to get representation is to get all interested people into one voting location. The voting system is designed this way to keep minority parties out.
And this BS about 'being worried this would attract burglers'
Having your home invaded is quite a traumatic thing. I know - I couldn't sleep properly for many months knowing someone could easily gain access to my property.
Everyone has a reasonable right to protection of their property. If forcing criminals to actually physically visit and observe to make their plans slightly reduces the risk of break-in then the actions taken here are not unreasonable.
Instead the more mobilised youth can browse online for potentially vulnerable targets and travel there, all without risk of being observed by locals for "acting suspiciously".
"role it will play in determining which, if any, parts of the Constitution apply on school grounds"
I love how America has so many laws and yet regardless of how many patriotic movies it creates it still believes the constitution has limited application.
They did not go to school, spend their lives learning how to "be a social butterfly", they went to school for coding.
Err.. no one goes to school to learn how to code.. that's something they do in their lunchtimes in the library escaping the bullies that will deck them for being too "smart".
If you didn't endure some level of suffering to get where you are then you are weak, not elite.
I certainly know my sh** and far more than most of my peers.
The problem is that your peers can't back that up with evidence; when your peers don't understand your code and find you unwilling to explain why you did what you did then they have no reason to believe you know what you're doing.
Everyone knows that if you can't explain a concept to a child then you clearly don't understand the subject yourself. If you won't then people wonder what you have to fear from being made accountable for your actions.
In my experience in dealing with anti-social contractors I've found them all to be wanting in their technical abilities. Their greatest problem is that they consider themselves to be an expert which almost always means they know very little. The saying "the more you learn, the more you realise how little you know" applies.
All developers should be asking questions.. "is there a better way of doing this? Of the many ways of doing this which is best for everyone?" Those who say "this is the only way to do it", or "you're stupid if you don't know MY way" clearly have not been around long enough to realise there's rarely one holy solution to a problem.
I do my best not to be "that guy". I try to document, communicate. I try to leave a company in confidence that they won't need me back, but very much want me back. I've had men come to me at Christmas parties and tell me I'm the smartest guy they've met - though I'm pretty sure they got that wrong.
If you treat people with respect and educate them then they will respect you and the overall productivity in the team will increase by multiples. Communication is increased and overall morale improves.
Taking pride in being "that guy" is something to be ashamed of - and should I ever be a software manager I'd have you dismissed without hesitation.
I find it amazing that something this dubious was allowed to get all the way to airing without someone at the BBC having a hissy fit. Perhaps they have received legal advice that said it was legit?
It didn't contain anything that could possibly be construed as racist. That's all the BBC and the UK legal system are concerned about.
they've made the choice to put their lives on the line, to shed their blood, just so other people back home can continue to make statements and assumptions about things they truly don't and will never understand.
I was never a bully at school, nor did I join a gang and harass and abuse people.
I guess I just "don't and will never" understand those poor fellas.
The effect is very similar; attempting to utilise unshielded (i.e. no ground cable twisted, or ground wire wrap) cables to multiplex a high frequency carrier with square(ish) waves modulated on top..
There are problems all signalling systems face - indeed the evolution of Ethernet is almost a study in this; you have reflections, you have impulses losing shape as they travel, you have loss.
And, indeed, there are videos on the internet of Amateur Radio operators proving without a doubt that home power networking devices are causing an inexcusable volume of interference across Amateur Radio bands, thereby eliminating the possibility of long distance radio communication for these people.
Amateur Radio operators don't feature much in the modern world of commercialism. However they are a lifeline during natural disasters; and they have gone a long way to bringing radio communication to the place it is now.
As someone that has passed the technical exams for Limited Licence Amateur Radio operation, and the 6wpm novice Morse, and having acquired a B.E. (Hons) in Electrical and Electronic Engineering I would hope that home powerline networking devices are not ramshodded into homes by greedy commercial interests without thought to those who gave them the very technologies they take for granted today.
BTW, the current thing going on is teams where team players keep a count at a few (or many) tables and the "High Roller" sits in at a hot table at the opportune moment based on signals sent from each tables team member. The casinos are now reworking the software to correlate groups of players to try and discourage this behavior, but it is a lot harder when you have enough people to rotate them in and out of small teams and work various casinos.
A simple solution is for the casinos themselves to count their own cards. When the odds become favourable they then shuffle the deck.
so what about whites killed by racist blacks and latinos?
In my travels around the UK and Japan I can, without any question or hesitation, categorically state that Blacks are the most racist group - and by racist I don't mean in thought, I mean in word, deed, and assault. Based on everything I've seen and experienced.
I cannot understand why Americans have rewarded this violent and hateful behaviour while calling themselves "progressive".
While the Perl for Linux camp enthusiasts are probably dribbling with uncontrolled glee about now being able to fiddle with git when fiddling with Perl... what about the Perl for Win32 camp?
Very good point to consider. The git port to Win32 may not be ready.. (see msysgit).
A bit off-topic, but people always try to use this argument to say that guitar hero is stupid. Because you are playing a game that emulates some real-world activity, that game is stupid because you could be doing the real world activity.
As a musician myself I can categorically say that learning to play is a long road. Maybe most young men would love to be a drummer, and they give it a go, but discover it to be a lot more difficult than they imagined. It is rare to find someone with the discipline to push through the terrible-sounding initial learning phase.
I've often thought, too, that the only time I can consider myself competent at a piano piece is when I've played it so many times it is rather boring to my own ears.
So, yes, computer games can provide a quick thrill when one lacks the skill to do it themselves.
That's primarily the difference between a game and a simulation. How many people find Flight Simulator exciting? Very few.. that's because trying to land a plane in Flight Simulator is very much like landing a plane in real life (yes I've done flying lessons too). But a game involving shooting things down without having to accurately marry engine speed with flaps and angle-of-incidence is just good fun!
Patent patent patent! Someone will either be looking to make lots by licensing some "new idea".. or stifling such innovation by use of a patent. Or maybe I'm no longer excited by any invention that wasn't born out of the RFC process anymore..
Truth is, with the UK and the US and other countries demanding biometric information from non-citizens the moment you step outside your borders you will be on a database somewhere.
Let's say you return and commit a crime in your home country.. all the police have to do is make an international request for biometric information on you, and some other country will respond and say "it's THIS individual with THIS passport!".
So each country that pretends to cater to their citizens by NOT storing biometric information is only "protecting" the liberties of the poor and stupid who will never travel.
1) Go for the least restrictive options possible. If you treat kids like criminals, they're going to act like criminals. Public middle/high schools are enough like jails as it is already.
If you don't provide boundaries for kids they don't learn respect and they don't appreciate privileges afforded to them. That lack of authority turns them into criminals.
2) Some kids are going to figure out how to work around almost every restrictive measure you put in place, regardless of what you do. Expect that and when it happens, set the example and deal with it in a mature non-kneejerk way.
Those kids who genuinely find their away around restrictions are likely to find their way into the IT sector, and good on them for thinking outside the box. The trouble will come from script-kiddies who don't apply logic and understanding to bypassing restrictions.
3) Related to #2, the kids are going to use the laptops for non-academic purposes.
Indeed; so the question is what ultimately is the benefit of providing children with laptops? Is it to make them comfortable with technology? Give them easier access to porn or illicit communications, make them easier to recruit into gangs and extreme organisations? Remember when parents' organisations used to try and ban certain books because they felt it was unhealthy for students to read them - well children will be able to read just about whatever interests them with their own laptops.
4)... If instant messaging in classes is an issue, have the teacher tell them to knock it off and pay attention to class.
Whoah now we're dreaming.. children barely pay attention to teachers any more - it comes from a lack of respect for authority - stemming from Western Society's fear of disciplining youth. We have a young-ish fellow working as a programmer for us - he sits in meetings with his laptop tapping away never listening. He refuses to interact socially with anyone else in the development group. Do we really want to encourage other youth down this path?
5) Above all, EDUCATE them on what's considered acceptable use of the computer and what's not.
Do schools really have the capacity for this? I doubt any IT professional gained their moral computing compass from schools. Most of us probably read magazines and had to go scrounge for technical knowledge - children these days have it thrust in their face.
Tell me, in big cities like London, New York, why is it so many children walk around with their cellphone playing tinny tunes through the speaker - who made that acceptable? No one. So, clearly, there's no transference of "acceptable use" to the younger generation.
Having said that, your suggestion for improving things by smarter selection of peers is good. Unfortunately the Internet doesn't have any easy mechanism to indicate which peers would be better. Good solutions would likely have to be built on additional knowledge - which implies a database to hold and serve it - which implies a new central infrastructure and queries of it - which both breaks the decentralized model and provides additional points of attack if the ISPs continue to treat this as a war and attempt to suppress "unauthorized"/"enemy" torrents.
Actually even Cisco could add such a protocol to their routers which merely look up the internal routing protocol to decide which IPs were local, and anything out a border gateway (routes advertised via BGP) could be regarded as "non-local". Anyone from Cisco here?
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I think most desktops are now CISC monsters.
Asides from faster busses and dual processors and (finally) 64-bit addressing, how much further have we really come?
Personally I've seen significant development in the last 10 years. Back 12 years ago, when I was at university studying electrical engineering, we were discussing the potential of radio modulation being done entirely in software - what a novel concept that was back then! When the i386 came out I was amazed at things like barrel shifters, and protected memory - protected memory, what a boon that was to multi-process operating systems! Then things got really complicated, with memory register sets for advanced multimedia computations; and chips handling multiple levels of security (now we have the hypervisor).
Whilst the desktop chips were becoming too complex for any single individual to understand (much like the motor car) the embedded chip market also changed.. 32 bits is now common in embedded applications; surface mount components and chips were just entering the market when I left university; now you'd be lucky to ever identify the value of a resister on a circuit board.. circuit boards are rarely a single layer any more.
Ten years ago the recording industry thought it had a monopoly on media distribution and charged us accordingly taking us for the suckers we were. Then the computer industry got smart and the networking industry prevailed. Now we have more lawyers than technicians thinking they have a say in technology.
As far as I'm concerned there's been an enormous amount of development in the last decade, to the point where I believe I can't keep up. I used to know everything I wanted to know about PCs. Now I don't. And I can't be bothered trying to learn as 2-3 years later a new chipset/architecture comes out. I certainly don't want to update my Microsoft operating systems as I'm convinced they will only restrict what I can do (DRM) rather than enhance what I can do.
The fact is that capitalism, which seeks to promote efficient and desired activity through profit seeking, is completely incompatible with the legal system and judiciary which seek to arbitrarily impose non-natural constraints on behaviour.
We should stop talking about ad blockers. If a majority of people start blocking ads, then a majority of websites will start finding ways around them.
Microsoft and Apple will never betray the golden source!
I realise that I'm commenter number 480+ so it's likely no one will read this. Anyway I've been thinking about this; I'd be quite happy to pay for access to a number of sites if we were talking cents (or pennies) or fractions thereof. Problem is I can't be bothered starting a new subscription agreement, a new password, a new account for every site with which I'd like to interact. The earlier initiatives of one log in for multiple sites would be a great solution if it weren't for our inherent distrust of storing confidential information with one company. But if I could have one log in shared across all fee-charging sites and then selectively allow sites to charge me (like I selectively allow sites to execute javascript on my firefox client) then that is something I'd seriously consider. There's a big difference between charging $1.00 or 70p for a newspaper in cash and requiring a subscription agreement or getting someone to enter their 16 digit credit card number, address, and 3 digit security code every time they wanted to check the latest sports news. So solve the convenience issue. In a way we can feel relatively secure.
Why not just chase him around the yard with a baseball bat?
Admittedly I was at the old age of 14 when I first read K&R cover-to-cover but I found it inspirational, clear, and concise.. and that was the 1st edition. Learning C blew my mind and made other languages at the time (Basic, Pascal) seem like toy languages. It also gave me a thirst for understanding assembler.
The clearest alternative programming language I've encountered must have been Microchip PIC RISC assembler - the datasheets for the 16F84 (and 16C84) very clearly explain the small instruction set.
I'm not sure I would have understood pointers to the extent that I did at 14 at a younger age. Who knows. I guess when a child is ready they will learn whatever it is they want to learn.
I probably would steer well clear of Python in terms of a teaching language. That's probably because I keep well clear of Python in the real world.
Voting is broken. Sure, a percentage of the population wants to vote The Pirate Party in. But that percentage is not a majority in any one constituency. The only way to get representation is to get all interested people into one voting location. The voting system is designed this way to keep minority parties out.
And this BS about 'being worried this would attract burglers'
Having your home invaded is quite a traumatic thing. I know - I couldn't sleep properly for many months knowing someone could easily gain access to my property.
Everyone has a reasonable right to protection of their property. If forcing criminals to actually physically visit and observe to make their plans slightly reduces the risk of break-in then the actions taken here are not unreasonable.
Instead the more mobilised youth can browse online for potentially vulnerable targets and travel there, all without risk of being observed by locals for "acting suspiciously".
"role it will play in determining which, if any, parts of the Constitution apply on school grounds"
I love how America has so many laws and yet regardless of how many patriotic movies it creates it still believes the constitution has limited application.
They did not go to school, spend their lives learning how to "be a social butterfly", they went to school for coding.
Err.. no one goes to school to learn how to code.. that's something they do in their lunchtimes in the library escaping the bullies that will deck them for being too "smart".
If you didn't endure some level of suffering to get where you are then you are weak, not elite.
I certainly know my sh** and far more than most of my peers.
The problem is that your peers can't back that up with evidence; when your peers don't understand your code and find you unwilling to explain why you did what you did then they have no reason to believe you know what you're doing.
Everyone knows that if you can't explain a concept to a child then you clearly don't understand the subject yourself. If you won't then people wonder what you have to fear from being made accountable for your actions.
In my experience in dealing with anti-social contractors I've found them all to be wanting in their technical abilities. Their greatest problem is that they consider themselves to be an expert which almost always means they know very little. The saying "the more you learn, the more you realise how little you know" applies.
All developers should be asking questions.. "is there a better way of doing this? Of the many ways of doing this which is best for everyone?" Those who say "this is the only way to do it", or "you're stupid if you don't know MY way" clearly have not been around long enough to realise there's rarely one holy solution to a problem.
I do my best not to be "that guy". I try to document, communicate. I try to leave a company in confidence that they won't need me back, but very much want me back. I've had men come to me at Christmas parties and tell me I'm the smartest guy they've met - though I'm pretty sure they got that wrong.
If you treat people with respect and educate them then they will respect you and the overall productivity in the team will increase by multiples. Communication is increased and overall morale improves.
Taking pride in being "that guy" is something to be ashamed of - and should I ever be a software manager I'd have you dismissed without hesitation.
I find it amazing that something this dubious was allowed to get all the way to airing without someone at the BBC having a hissy fit. Perhaps they have received legal advice that said it was legit?
It didn't contain anything that could possibly be construed as racist. That's all the BBC and the UK legal system are concerned about.
Our medic was sniped in the glow of his iPod.
Well at least he learned something from the boys in Vietnam lighting up cigarettes!
they've made the choice to put their lives on the line, to shed their blood, just so other people back home can continue to make statements and assumptions about things they truly don't and will never understand.
I was never a bully at school, nor did I join a gang and harass and abuse people.
I guess I just "don't and will never" understand those poor fellas.
This is not Broadband Over Power Line(BPL)
The effect is very similar; attempting to utilise unshielded (i.e. no ground cable twisted, or ground wire wrap) cables to multiplex a high frequency carrier with square(ish) waves modulated on top..
There are problems all signalling systems face - indeed the evolution of Ethernet is almost a study in this; you have reflections, you have impulses losing shape as they travel, you have loss.
And, indeed, there are videos on the internet of Amateur Radio operators proving without a doubt that home power networking devices are causing an inexcusable volume of interference across Amateur Radio bands, thereby eliminating the possibility of long distance radio communication for these people.
Amateur Radio operators don't feature much in the modern world of commercialism. However they are a lifeline during natural disasters; and they have gone a long way to bringing radio communication to the place it is now.
As someone that has passed the technical exams for Limited Licence Amateur Radio operation, and the 6wpm novice Morse, and having acquired a B.E. (Hons) in Electrical and Electronic Engineering I would hope that home powerline networking devices are not ramshodded into homes by greedy commercial interests without thought to those who gave them the very technologies they take for granted today.
Can't we wait till the interference issues with radio communication are sorted out? See The ARRL site on this issue.
BTW, the current thing going on is teams where team players keep a count at a few (or many) tables and the "High Roller" sits in at a hot table at the opportune moment based on signals sent from each tables team member. The casinos are now reworking the software to correlate groups of players to try and discourage this behavior, but it is a lot harder when you have enough people to rotate them in and out of small teams and work various casinos.
A simple solution is for the casinos themselves to count their own cards. When the odds become favourable they then shuffle the deck.
Um. You can't actually have 4GB of memory with 32bit address space
Ah, technically you can. Remember Extended memory? That was when processors couldn't address beyond 1MB so memory was paged.
"if they implement face recognition, I want CCTVs to state in a loud, offcial voice "I see you, [Insert Name]!"
I see you, not sure!
I know, too obvious...
Riiight, because today's corporate advertising, and political campaigning is so subtle. (See Patriot Act)
so what about whites killed by racist blacks and latinos?
In my travels around the UK and Japan I can, without any question or hesitation, categorically state that Blacks are the most racist group - and by racist I don't mean in thought, I mean in word, deed, and assault. Based on everything I've seen and experienced.
I cannot understand why Americans have rewarded this violent and hateful behaviour while calling themselves "progressive".
While the Perl for Linux camp enthusiasts are probably dribbling with uncontrolled glee about now being able to fiddle with git when fiddling with Perl... what about the Perl for Win32 camp?
Very good point to consider. The git port to Win32 may not be ready.. (see msysgit).
A bit off-topic, but people always try to use this argument to say that guitar hero is stupid. Because you are playing a game that emulates some real-world activity, that game is stupid because you could be doing the real world activity.
As a musician myself I can categorically say that learning to play is a long road. Maybe most young men would love to be a drummer, and they give it a go, but discover it to be a lot more difficult than they imagined. It is rare to find someone with the discipline to push through the terrible-sounding initial learning phase.
I've often thought, too, that the only time I can consider myself competent at a piano piece is when I've played it so many times it is rather boring to my own ears.
So, yes, computer games can provide a quick thrill when one lacks the skill to do it themselves.
That's primarily the difference between a game and a simulation. How many people find Flight Simulator exciting? Very few.. that's because trying to land a plane in Flight Simulator is very much like landing a plane in real life (yes I've done flying lessons too). But a game involving shooting things down without having to accurately marry engine speed with flaps and angle-of-incidence is just good fun!
Patent patent patent! Someone will either be looking to make lots by licensing some "new idea".. or stifling such innovation by use of a patent. Or maybe I'm no longer excited by any invention that wasn't born out of the RFC process anymore..
Truth is, with the UK and the US and other countries demanding biometric information from non-citizens the moment you step outside your borders you will be on a database somewhere.
Let's say you return and commit a crime in your home country.. all the police have to do is make an international request for biometric information on you, and some other country will respond and say "it's THIS individual with THIS passport!".
So each country that pretends to cater to their citizens by NOT storing biometric information is only "protecting" the liberties of the poor and stupid who will never travel.
1) Go for the least restrictive options possible. If you treat kids like criminals, they're going to act like criminals. Public middle/high schools are enough like jails as it is already.
If you don't provide boundaries for kids they don't learn respect and they don't appreciate privileges afforded to them. That lack of authority turns them into criminals.
2) Some kids are going to figure out how to work around almost every restrictive measure you put in place, regardless of what you do. Expect that and when it happens, set the example and deal with it in a mature non-kneejerk way.
Those kids who genuinely find their away around restrictions are likely to find their way into the IT sector, and good on them for thinking outside the box. The trouble will come from script-kiddies who don't apply logic and understanding to bypassing restrictions.
3) Related to #2, the kids are going to use the laptops for non-academic purposes.
Indeed; so the question is what ultimately is the benefit of providing children with laptops? Is it to make them comfortable with technology? Give them easier access to porn or illicit communications, make them easier to recruit into gangs and extreme organisations? Remember when parents' organisations used to try and ban certain books because they felt it was unhealthy for students to read them - well children will be able to read just about whatever interests them with their own laptops.
4) ... If instant messaging in classes is an issue, have the teacher tell them to knock it off and pay attention to class.
Whoah now we're dreaming.. children barely pay attention to teachers any more - it comes from a lack of respect for authority - stemming from Western Society's fear of disciplining youth. We have a young-ish fellow working as a programmer for us - he sits in meetings with his laptop tapping away never listening. He refuses to interact socially with anyone else in the development group. Do we really want to encourage other youth down this path?
5) Above all, EDUCATE them on what's considered acceptable use of the computer and what's not.
Do schools really have the capacity for this? I doubt any IT professional gained their moral computing compass from schools. Most of us probably read magazines and had to go scrounge for technical knowledge - children these days have it thrust in their face.
Tell me, in big cities like London, New York, why is it so many children walk around with their cellphone playing tinny tunes through the speaker - who made that acceptable? No one. So, clearly, there's no transference of "acceptable use" to the younger generation.
Having said that, your suggestion for improving things by smarter selection of peers is good. Unfortunately the Internet doesn't have any easy mechanism to indicate which peers would be better. Good solutions would likely have to be built on additional knowledge - which implies a database to hold and serve it - which implies a new central infrastructure and queries of it - which both breaks the decentralized model and provides additional points of attack if the ISPs continue to treat this as a war and attempt to suppress "unauthorized"/"enemy" torrents.
I posted a while ago an idea I'd like to see for a Request For Comment (RFC), a new protocol ISPs could easily run in-house. See http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=590741&cid=23883635
Actually even Cisco could add such a protocol to their routers which merely look up the internal routing protocol to decide which IPs were local, and anything out a border gateway (routes advertised via BGP) could be regarded as "non-local". Anyone from Cisco here?