There are a large crowd of email maintainers who believe anonymous email is important for political reasons.
I think your right on the mark though with the pharmacy analogy. We were able to implement SMTP to ESMTP quite easily so it shows people can definitely implement changes in protocols.
I also vote with people who think black hole lists are pretty much useless these days because they swallow up so many innocent people/organizations.
People are going to figure out how to make money off of stuff with non-enforced copyrights (such as someone's non-recording contract youtube.com song) or realize it is worth it to put "old stuff" out there to introduce the viewer to the new stuff (I discovered The Daily Show on the net and am now a bona fide regular viewer on Comedy Central.)
This isn't a remarkably new concept. The Grateful Dead managed to make a lot of money on the live recording swaps that promoted their music to millions of fans. (And no, I'm not a dead head but I am a student of unconventional business methods.)
There is also a lot of works being produced under the Creative Commons ideas.
IBM, Sun, and a slew of new companies managed to make money on "remixing" software found in the open source/free software movement - there will be plenty of companies who will start mixing their goods in with other's as a value add in the video, music, and print world I am sure.
- People with language skills that would -m-e- [make] a -4-y-o- [four year old] laugh - People who can barely -t-a-l-k- [speak], let alone have any communication skills - People who -d-o-e-s-n-'-t- [don't] -e-v-e-n- know elementary math
Sorry. I have a pet peeve about people who go on about proper grammar and then proceed to mangle it.
Perhaps their English is odd because your's is odd.:^)
Here is someone obviously talented in mathematics and science. Someone who obviously is intelligent and can be readily a "qualified american" engineer.
Yet, he chooses to go into law.
I would find it very interesting to know WHY he chose that path. I certainly have some ideas of my own why he did so but won't put words into his mouth.
Wouldn't it be an irony if he chose to be an H1-B/L-1 lawyer?
I have to admit I am a little disgusted by this thread.
If you live in the United States, I hate to break this news to you but you should be obligated to participate in your government - it is "for the people BY the people."
Hopefully I am wrong, but as I read this, I see a bunch of fools who like to complain about shit but are more vexed when their playstation/x-box game is interrupted by a phone call from someone who MIGHT ACTUALLY COME TO A POSITION TO SAY WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO.
Why is the country going to fuck - continously ruled by ever increasing extremism on both sides? Because people don't want to be involved.
Bad news for you - but YOU ARE INVOLVED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. You can have a say in how the government works - or you can merely accept the ass kickin's to our civil rights the government hands out SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED.
My God where are my moderator points when I need them?!?!
My God! LOL! Here, let me charge you for this untested potential peice of sh|t that will ruin your work after two hours - and you tell me what's wrong with it - so I can charge you for the full version when it comes out!
(Of course we will place your credit card number and other information into a database that others have routinely hacked and used the contents there of for identity theft.)
If one wants to use "beta" software - go use OpenOffice and contribute bug reports.
One list complained my machine was using the wrong version of sendmail for their taste. Not one bit of spam came from the machine - but they listed it simply because I had an old version of sendmail.
Since then I have considered all these lists to be unregulated vigilantes.
Speaking with other people - they also found themselves listed on various BHLs over trite and stupid shit.
With all the zombie computers out these days, BHLs are weapons of the last war anyhow.
Your comment is only half complete. You forgot the part where democrats busy themselves screwing people too. We need a third party. Maybe even a fourth one too!
After being in Texas, the people are just different out here. It's more laid back (except Houston), and there's a lot more of a get-it-done-when-it-gets-done feeling. I think that's what contributes to Austin's silicon hill not being as recognized. Silicon hill may erupt, but I think that the extra-curricular activities and different attitude keep it from being larger than Silicon Valley.
I have found that the people in Texas are a bit more like California than the people in California. I think Austin has a good run on the hippie to yuppie ratio as Santa Cruz.
When I moved to California from Philadelphia I thought the place would be "like mellow and thoughtful, man." It wasn't quite that way - I hate to say it - but surprise! I found it a little bit shallow.
When I moved to Austin I found myself thinking "Dang, this place is more California like than California is!" Heck, we even got our own movie stars here.
I should stop bragging about the place or someone might wanna move out here!
I do think Austin is getting it's second wind when it comes to technology though. It's a little breeze, but lets hope I can do my part to make it a tornado.
I am a silicon valley refuge myself - moving from Sunnyvale to Austin. I can tell you - Austin is far more fun... and they have a Fry's here too!
Granted, there is no DigitalGuru bookstore - but there are a few books around.
The sea shore is maybe three hours away - the sun shines (gets a little hot in summer) - and you cannot compete with the U of T hunnies compared to what you find in the valley.
Yep - and STILL in the technology business...
P.S. Texas has no state income tax. That is a winner right there.
Heck, Apple can't have any of that word of mouth that might actually excite the market about their products! How could they keep that 4% market penetration with all those people talking about their products?
Sheesh!
All you got to do is write perl script! Edit text files and end up with a PDF!
I can see explaining that to the marketing people in my company.
I am reading this book "Strapped" which is more about economics for today's young people but she does go into a chapter where we do a whole lot of complaining but DO NOT EXCERCISE our greatest power - the vote.
1) Make a PDF brochure for your software. No more than two pages long and with pretty colors.
2) Programmer's Guide. Your product has got to have quite the draw for me to wander through source code trying to figure out what it is doing. Don't make me guess about database tables or magic numbers and magic words in the table that do this or that.
3) User's Guide. Most people who use it are not going to be computer types.
4) Fresh meat, slashdot, make a demo available for computer mags, etc.
There are a large crowd of email maintainers who believe anonymous email is important for political reasons.
I think your right on the mark though with the pharmacy analogy. We were able to implement SMTP to ESMTP quite easily so it shows people can definitely implement changes in protocols.
I also vote with people who think black hole lists are pretty much useless these days because they swallow up so many innocent people/organizations.
It would be nice to have an open source barracuda ( http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/?L=en ) like box - these things really work well.
People are going to figure out how to make money off of stuff with non-enforced copyrights (such as someone's non-recording contract youtube.com song) or realize it is worth it to put "old stuff" out there to introduce the viewer to the new stuff (I discovered The Daily Show on the net and am now a bona fide regular viewer on Comedy Central.)
This isn't a remarkably new concept. The Grateful Dead managed to make a lot of money on the live recording swaps that promoted their music to millions of fans. (And no, I'm not a dead head but I am a student of unconventional business methods.)
There is also a lot of works being produced under the Creative Commons ideas.
IBM, Sun, and a slew of new companies managed to make money on "remixing" software found in the open source/free software movement - there will be plenty of companies who will start mixing their goods in with other's as a value add in the video, music, and print world I am sure.
These are great examples of how NOT to write code. I feel a little PDF book coming on in my fingers...
(Grin)
I watched Ultra man on channel 20 also. Right next to Jonny Socco and his Giant Flying Robot!
Oh that would be wonderful - if I could actually watch it on my non-microsoft computer.
Our problem is not unskilled workers.
Our problem is unskilled politicians - who come no where near to the level of professionalism and skill "statesmen" should describe.
- People with language skills that would -m-e- [make] a -4-y-o- [four year old] laugh
- People who can barely -t-a-l-k- [speak], let alone have any communication skills
- People who -d-o-e-s-n-'-t- [don't] -e-v-e-n- know elementary math
Sorry. I have a pet peeve about people who go on about proper grammar and then proceed to mangle it.
Perhaps their English is odd because your's is odd.
Your employer can deny an employee to do their lawfully expected duty - but they should expect a knock at the door from the local sheriff.
Well, at one time, you didn't have to ask or seek the government's permission to do this.
Now you do have to seek the government's permission to do this.
Sounds like an infringment on freedom to me.
Here is someone obviously talented in mathematics and science. Someone who obviously is intelligent and can be readily a "qualified american" engineer.
Yet, he chooses to go into law.
I would find it very interesting to know WHY he chose that path. I certainly have some ideas of my own why he did so but won't put words into his mouth.
Wouldn't it be an irony if he chose to be an H1-B/L-1 lawyer?
Have you tried it or is this simply your theory?
Those cheap paper back books from Dover Publications.
Add to that, the graph book I spent 14 bucks on enabled me to turned out manufacturing software worth $100,000 directly into my pocket over the years.
Best investment I ever made.
That said, I haven't flown since 2001. Just to much nonsense to go through. I haven't missed flying yet either.
I have to admit I am a little disgusted by this thread.
If you live in the United States, I hate to break this news to you but you should be obligated to participate in your government - it is "for the people BY the people."
Hopefully I am wrong, but as I read this, I see a bunch of fools who like to complain about shit but are more vexed when their playstation/x-box game is interrupted by a phone call from someone who MIGHT ACTUALLY COME TO A POSITION TO SAY WHAT YOU CAN AND CANNOT DO.
Why is the country going to fuck - continously ruled by ever increasing extremism on both sides? Because people don't want to be involved.
Bad news for you - but YOU ARE INVOLVED WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. You can have a say in how the government works - or you can merely accept the ass kickin's to our civil rights the government hands out SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED.
My God where are my moderator points when I need them?!?!
My God! LOL! Here, let me charge you for this untested potential peice of sh|t that will ruin your work after two hours - and you tell me what's wrong with it - so I can charge you for the full version when it comes out!
(Of course we will place your credit card number and other information into a database that others have routinely hacked and used the contents there of for identity theft.)
If one wants to use "beta" software - go use OpenOffice and contribute bug reports.
I hate all these idiot blackhole lists.
One list complained my machine was using the wrong version of sendmail for their taste. Not one bit of spam came from the machine - but they listed it simply because I had an old version of sendmail.
Since then I have considered all these lists to be unregulated vigilantes.
Speaking with other people - they also found themselves listed on various BHLs over trite and stupid shit.
With all the zombie computers out these days, BHLs are weapons of the last war anyhow.
Already done:
http://thomas.loc.gov/
Your comment is only half complete. You forgot the part where democrats busy themselves screwing people too. We need a third party. Maybe even a fourth one too!
After being in Texas, the people are just different out here. It's more laid back (except Houston), and there's a lot more of a get-it-done-when-it-gets-done feeling. I think that's what contributes to Austin's silicon hill not being as recognized. Silicon hill may erupt, but I think that the extra-curricular activities and different attitude keep it from being larger than Silicon Valley.
I have found that the people in Texas are a bit more like California than the people in California. I think Austin has a good run on the hippie to yuppie ratio as Santa Cruz.
When I moved to California from Philadelphia I thought the place would be "like mellow and thoughtful, man." It wasn't quite that way - I hate to say it - but surprise! I found it a little bit shallow.
When I moved to Austin I found myself thinking "Dang, this place is more California like than California is!" Heck, we even got our own movie stars here.
I should stop bragging about the place or someone might wanna move out here!
I do think Austin is getting it's second wind when it comes to technology though. It's a little breeze, but lets hope I can do my part to make it a tornado.
I am a silicon valley refuge myself - moving from Sunnyvale to Austin. I can tell you - Austin is far more fun... and they have a Fry's here too!
Granted, there is no DigitalGuru bookstore - but there are a few books around.
The sea shore is maybe three hours away - the sun shines (gets a little hot in summer) - and you cannot compete with the U of T hunnies compared to what you find in the valley.
Yep - and STILL in the technology business...
P.S. Texas has no state income tax. That is a winner right there.
Heck, Apple can't have any of that word of mouth that might actually excite the market about their products! How could they keep that 4% market penetration with all those people talking about their products?
Shall be made of my bashing the shit out of the first Philips component with such a "feature."
Imagine the irony.
Sheesh! All you got to do is write perl script! Edit text files and end up with a PDF! I can see explaining that to the marketing people in my company.
Political commentary as well How To Lobby: http://interface2037.com/index.php/category/politi cs/
For god's sake get registered to vote and do it.
I am reading this book "Strapped" which is more about economics for today's young people but she does go into a chapter where we do a whole lot of complaining but DO NOT EXCERCISE our greatest power - the vote.
1) Make a PDF brochure for your software. No more than two pages long and with pretty colors.
2) Programmer's Guide. Your product has got to have quite the draw for me to wander through source code trying to figure out what it is doing. Don't make me guess about database tables or magic numbers and magic words in the table that do this or that.
3) User's Guide. Most people who use it are not going to be computer types.
4) Fresh meat, slashdot, make a demo available for computer mags, etc.