that is because microsoft's idea of 'word lite' (ie wordpad or works) seems to be 'can't be compatible with word'. i work for the it department in a school. i have to use ooo on my linux box to convert most of the 'non word' documents that kids bring in, because word stuffs them up so badly. ooo doesn't convert all of them perfectly, but 99% of the time it is much better than word's poor excuse for a conversion.
on a side note, the number of kids bringing in odf documents has been slowly but surely increasing. just something that i've been finding interesting.
it's interesting (to me anyway), but when i read your post, i didn't register the 'spoiler alert' statement, read the next part and thought 'great, well that spoiled that'.... after looking back and seeing the blatantly obvious spoiler warning, i can only assume i automatically saw the hashes as a code comment marker or something and ignored it, since i have a vague memory of seeing the line there, but completely (unintentionally) ignored it....
i always thought that. i'm not so sure now though, as i have a feeling it would come down to just the same 'popularity contest' but driven by media towards the law they would prefer you to vote rather than towards a particular person. i'm not sure of any better alternative though, just some idle thoughts of mine:)
look at the linux media centre edition page (http://linuxmce.com/) for a great example of how this can work. the wiimote has the required number of buttons (3+) and the accelerometer to be all that is needed to control it.
my banking site has enforced this. it pisses me off so much i have considered changing banks more than once. plus the focus 'dotted rectangle' on each button as you press it makes it easy for someone looking over your shoulder to see what you have pressed (although you should be sure no one is doing that before logging on to those sites i suppose).
give jack a chance. i can't stand having to use someone else's machine for audio anymore, i used to be a big logic fan (before apple bought them out) but now i just get frustrated when i don't have jack around to 'just plug this into that'. maybe i'm more of a spontaneous 'try this' type person than some, but i feel really limited without it (which i think is why even international audio schools like sae are supporting jack and ardour's ports to mac)
when i was still having to use windows, i used litestep instead of explorer for the desktop interface/window manager. with the kde apps (they are not porting kwin itself) on there it might have been an almost usable system:)
In the future, programming will become almost entirely compositional. Just drag'm and drop'm. that's what was being said in the 80s... the truth is, while it is 'cool' it is a lot more limiting for low level stuff and complex algorithms. maybe some things would work (probably the same sort of programs that will benefit from technologies like adobe's 'thermo' and multimedia work), but just like visual basic was supposed to change the way everyone programmed but fell way short of the mark when people realised that ease of use and *complete* control are essentially mutually exclusive, this phrase (in my opinion) will be one of those phrases we look back on every so often and laugh.
pretty close. in 2002 i did a music business course which went through a heap of deals and broke them down. i think the average amount going to the band per dollar was just under 5 cents - this is then split up amongst the band, don't forget. granted that radiohead are probably in a position where they could make a much better than average deal, but why give away your royalties to a company that doesn't deserve it when you can get away with doing the whole lot yourself?
i use ardour now exclusively. i used to be a huge fan of logic. i had a pirated version of 5.5 on windows that i was using when i was doing my audio courses. i was just saving up to buy a real copy (i thought it was one of the few programs i had tried that was actually worthwhile) when the bombshell hit that apple had purchased it. at that stage, logic's own forums had posts by emagic showing a roughly 57-43% split between mac and windows users of logic. apple then stated that the windows users were too small in number to justify supporting and would drop the platform. well i obviously didn't spend the money on the program after that - i wasn't going to pay for a new system on top of the software cost, so i used sonar for a while instead, putting up with the change of interface until i found ardour on linux.
i know this is somewhat offtopic, but i know i am not the only person who abandoned logic for something else at that point.
compatibility with ooxml is an *application* problem, not a document format issue. ogg, flac and aac audio formats aren't 'compatible' with mp3s, but what is the point? they serve the same purpose but they are *different formats*. mp3 might be the most popular at the moment, but that doesn't mean every format must be as close to it in implementation as possible.
having access to the code is not the only barrier to development. if it were, then anyone could go and make their own driver for any printer with ease. the difficulty is in knowing how to make a printer driver and coding it. these people are kernel developers. printer drivers through cups are completely different in architecture, and knowing how to code one thing doesn't make you an expert in coding everything. complaining that a free service of 'A' offered by someone doesn't include 'B' because you want it to is ridiculous. that is like asking someone who is an expert on postscript printers to 'please fix my graphics driver please'. no matter how politely you ask them they wont do it - it isn't their area of expertise.
i don't use beagle myself (not really enough documents on here to need it), but doesn't locate only index filenames, not content? isn't that the whole point of the search indexers like beagle and tracker?
actually you are both wrong. you only need to reboot (yes, even *after* a complete dist-upgrade) if you want to use the updated kernel. i have a few times now needed to keep working on something after a dist-upgrade finished and actually forgot that i had done the upgrade. everything kept working for weeks and in fact it has been power problems at home that made me restart them eventually.
i have even upgraded an old debian sarge server to ubuntu feisty just by changing the apt repositories. i wouldn't recommend this to anyone, but i was just curious. turns out it worked flawlessly. i have a radius server running here at work with an uptime of 135 days. it is running on an old celeron 450mhz box that used to be used as a student workstation when i was a student here in 1999.
i certainly have no doubts that ubuntu can handle 1yr+ uptimes. i say the same for almost any linux distro (other than ones that are deliberately always on the 'bleeding edge' i suppose, but that isn't the point for them.
at the school i work for, we are forced to keep ie6 for some of the 'wonderful' educational packages they use. ie7 is not compatible with these, so we have to turn the update off. we are, however, moving to firefox (pretty much complete, just a few people with old habits left, but they are free to use ie still if they want) as our main browser and just using iexplore.exe links in the shortcuts that need them (rather than pointing directly to the html file)
the kernel itself is definitely not moving to gpl3 anytime soon... all internal kernel modules *must* be gpl2 to be accepted into the mainline kernel (or at least a more permissive license, which gpl3 is not). of course any part of the driver external to the kernel might be able to use gpl3 or another license i think.
i'm not putting your position down, but the 'copied' sound could have actually come from an external sound library... ie both st:tng and signs (haven't seen that so i don't know which tng alien sound you mean) could have used the same sound library. i have copies of both sony and bbc sound libraries, and it is interesting how many 'rubble falling 2' sounds you can recognise as having heard on movies.
i remember the door opening sound in the original doom games (1 and 2) being used on something else (can't remember where though), and i think a smashing pumpkin's song using the exploding barrel sound. those could have been ripped from doom itself, or from an external library, i don't know. i just found it interesting:)
first of all, the only user that gets sudo by default is the user that actually sets the os up. every other added user has to be given sudo permissions manually. how is this different to the first user having the root password (which they had to know to install it in your 'better model'.
your example above is no different from one user with root access changing the root password. if you don't trust them implicitly then DONT give them sudo/root access.
the advantage of sudo is the ability to do things like allow a user to use sudo to run some specific backup task or whatever ONLY. no access to rm as root etc. this way if a user requires root access for one program they can be given it without compromising anything else (provided, of course, the program they are given access to is trustworthy and secure in itself).
i just finished a recording last night on *gasp* linux using ardour, jamin and jack. we had two people bring their macs to try to set a similar thing up (my pc smelt like melted capacitors and wasn't being nice):). neither of them worked as well as we needed to for the setup we had. yes, i know ardour is now available on mac, but that came later. why would anyone bother porting an amateur piece of software to a platform that already has the only 'serious creative' tools available? why waste the effort when the linux program is obviously inferior to the power of mac/windows software? maybe you should check out the 'reactable' to see what sort of interesting (but obviously inferior) things people are doing with open source in the creative field (bjork seems to like it).
oh, and yes, i have a kaos pad. what of it? oh yes, i'm also using a tablet pc which uses a wacom interface, and it seems fine to me... even with the auto screen rotation etc.
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that is because microsoft's idea of 'word lite' (ie wordpad or works) seems to be 'can't be compatible with word'. i work for the it department in a school. i have to use ooo on my linux box to convert most of the 'non word' documents that kids bring in, because word stuffs them up so badly. ooo doesn't convert all of them perfectly, but 99% of the time it is much better than word's poor excuse for a conversion.
on a side note, the number of kids bringing in odf documents has been slowly but surely increasing. just something that i've been finding interesting.
porl
offtopic:
it's interesting (to me anyway), but when i read your post, i didn't register the 'spoiler alert' statement, read the next part and thought 'great, well that spoiled that'.... after looking back and seeing the blatantly obvious spoiler warning, i can only assume i automatically saw the hashes as a code comment marker or something and ignored it, since i have a vague memory of seeing the line there, but completely (unintentionally) ignored it....
porl
holy crap, this is insane! :)
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i always thought that. i'm not so sure now though, as i have a feeling it would come down to just the same 'popularity contest' but driven by media towards the law they would prefer you to vote rather than towards a particular person. i'm not sure of any better alternative though, just some idle thoughts of mine :)
porl
you are thinking of hydrogen.
look at the linux media centre edition page (http://linuxmce.com/) for a great example of how this can work. the wiimote has the required number of buttons (3+) and the accelerometer to be all that is needed to control it.
my banking site has enforced this. it pisses me off so much i have considered changing banks more than once. plus the focus 'dotted rectangle' on each button as you press it makes it easy for someone looking over your shoulder to see what you have pressed (although you should be sure no one is doing that before logging on to those sites i suppose).
porl
give jack a chance. i can't stand having to use someone else's machine for audio anymore, i used to be a big logic fan (before apple bought them out) but now i just get frustrated when i don't have jack around to 'just plug this into that'. maybe i'm more of a spontaneous 'try this' type person than some, but i feel really limited without it (which i think is why even international audio schools like sae are supporting jack and ardour's ports to mac)
porl
"develop against it"
:P
i think that is probably the best description of working with windows i have ever heard
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because you need to get out more?? :D
when i was still having to use windows, i used litestep instead of explorer for the desktop interface/window manager. with the kde apps (they are not porting kwin itself) on there it might have been an almost usable system :)
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porl
pretty close. in 2002 i did a music business course which went through a heap of deals and broke them down. i think the average amount going to the band per dollar was just under 5 cents - this is then split up amongst the band, don't forget. granted that radiohead are probably in a position where they could make a much better than average deal, but why give away your royalties to a company that doesn't deserve it when you can get away with doing the whole lot yourself?
porl
i use ardour now exclusively. i used to be a huge fan of logic. i had a pirated version of 5.5 on windows that i was using when i was doing my audio courses. i was just saving up to buy a real copy (i thought it was one of the few programs i had tried that was actually worthwhile) when the bombshell hit that apple had purchased it. at that stage, logic's own forums had posts by emagic showing a roughly 57-43% split between mac and windows users of logic. apple then stated that the windows users were too small in number to justify supporting and would drop the platform. well i obviously didn't spend the money on the program after that - i wasn't going to pay for a new system on top of the software cost, so i used sonar for a while instead, putting up with the change of interface until i found ardour on linux.
i know this is somewhat offtopic, but i know i am not the only person who abandoned logic for something else at that point.
porl
compatibility with ooxml is an *application* problem, not a document format issue. ogg, flac and aac audio formats aren't 'compatible' with mp3s, but what is the point? they serve the same purpose but they are *different formats*. mp3 might be the most popular at the moment, but that doesn't mean every format must be as close to it in implementation as possible.
porl
having access to the code is not the only barrier to development. if it were, then anyone could go and make their own driver for any printer with ease. the difficulty is in knowing how to make a printer driver and coding it. these people are kernel developers. printer drivers through cups are completely different in architecture, and knowing how to code one thing doesn't make you an expert in coding everything. complaining that a free service of 'A' offered by someone doesn't include 'B' because you want it to is ridiculous. that is like asking someone who is an expert on postscript printers to 'please fix my graphics driver please'. no matter how politely you ask them they wont do it - it isn't their area of expertise.
porl
i don't use beagle myself (not really enough documents on here to need it), but doesn't locate only index filenames, not content? isn't that the whole point of the search indexers like beagle and tracker?
porl
actually you are both wrong. you only need to reboot (yes, even *after* a complete dist-upgrade) if you want to use the updated kernel. i have a few times now needed to keep working on something after a dist-upgrade finished and actually forgot that i had done the upgrade. everything kept working for weeks and in fact it has been power problems at home that made me restart them eventually.
i have even upgraded an old debian sarge server to ubuntu feisty just by changing the apt repositories. i wouldn't recommend this to anyone, but i was just curious. turns out it worked flawlessly. i have a radius server running here at work with an uptime of 135 days. it is running on an old celeron 450mhz box that used to be used as a student workstation when i was a student here in 1999.
i certainly have no doubts that ubuntu can handle 1yr+ uptimes. i say the same for almost any linux distro (other than ones that are deliberately always on the 'bleeding edge' i suppose, but that isn't the point for them.
porl
at the school i work for, we are forced to keep ie6 for some of the 'wonderful' educational packages they use. ie7 is not compatible with these, so we have to turn the update off. we are, however, moving to firefox (pretty much complete, just a few people with old habits left, but they are free to use ie still if they want) as our main browser and just using iexplore.exe links in the shortcuts that need them (rather than pointing directly to the html file)
porl
the kernel itself is definitely not moving to gpl3 anytime soon... all internal kernel modules *must* be gpl2 to be accepted into the mainline kernel (or at least a more permissive license, which gpl3 is not). of course any part of the driver external to the kernel might be able to use gpl3 or another license i think.
porl
i'm not putting your position down, but the 'copied' sound could have actually come from an external sound library... ie both st:tng and signs (haven't seen that so i don't know which tng alien sound you mean) could have used the same sound library. i have copies of both sony and bbc sound libraries, and it is interesting how many 'rubble falling 2' sounds you can recognise as having heard on movies.
:)
i remember the door opening sound in the original doom games (1 and 2) being used on something else (can't remember where though), and i think a smashing pumpkin's song using the exploding barrel sound. those could have been ripped from doom itself, or from an external library, i don't know. i just found it interesting
first of all, the only user that gets sudo by default is the user that actually sets the os up. every other added user has to be given sudo permissions manually. how is this different to the first user having the root password (which they had to know to install it in your 'better model'.
your example above is no different from one user with root access changing the root password. if you don't trust them implicitly then DONT give them sudo/root access.
the advantage of sudo is the ability to do things like allow a user to use sudo to run some specific backup task or whatever ONLY. no access to rm as root etc. this way if a user requires root access for one program they can be given it without compromising anything else (provided, of course, the program they are given access to is trustworthy and secure in itself).
ok, i'll bite too...
:). neither of them worked as well as we needed to for the setup we had. yes, i know ardour is now available on mac, but that came later. why would anyone bother porting an amateur piece of software to a platform that already has the only 'serious creative' tools available? why waste the effort when the linux program is obviously inferior to the power of mac/windows software? maybe you should check out the 'reactable' to see what sort of interesting (but obviously inferior) things people are doing with open source in the creative field (bjork seems to like it).
i just finished a recording last night on *gasp* linux using ardour, jamin and jack. we had two people bring their macs to try to set a similar thing up (my pc smelt like melted capacitors and wasn't being nice)
oh, and yes, i have a kaos pad. what of it? oh yes, i'm also using a tablet pc which uses a wacom interface, and it seems fine to me... even with the auto screen rotation etc.