> Plugins are not the same as extensions. But yes, Seamonkey supports > both plugins and extensions. The extension system for Seamonkey is > nowhere near as polished as Firefox's, but it's similar. You can't just > drop any old Firefox extension into Seamonkey and have it work, but it > is possible to make an extension that works for both.
Perhaps I should elaborate.
Currently I am using IE (and its derivatives) and considering switching to either Seamonkey or Firefox/Thunderbird.
I have heard opinions (mostly here) that Seamonkey is preferred to the FF/TB combination but my concern is that the interesting plugins/extensions will not work with it.
Thus the question.
> Oh, and just to pick a nit: there's no CamelCase in the names of > Firefox and Thunderbird.
> The government is by definition a public body that we, ideally, control [...] > They take your taxes, period. I think it is quite reasonable to insist that what > the government does/creates with our money be made, if at all possible, public. > That's how government is supposed to work.
That only works with a government that only governs. Unfortunately, some governments are not content with just governing. They want to rule.
> Then let's get active and do something about this. If thousands of geeks > can't manage to communicate to the millions of Americans how REDICULOUS this > crap is, how it enslaves them financially, the injustice of it all.. if we > can't communicate that with the INTERNET available, well then we deserve what > we have.>/i>
Unfortunately, the "millions of Americans" that you speak of have practically zero influence on the way their country is run (case in point: GWB's war in Iraq).
However, you could try to play the game... Get together, form a company, brainstorm ideas, patent everything you can think of, give free licenses to OSS etc., sue everybody else.
If the capital issue can be resolved, this could be a tool to force a reform.
> I'd hate to have to go to all the websites I visit and change my stored address AGAIN... > when this time I wouldn't be getting anything new for all the bother
> On the other hand, there is the state of Illinois where I also lived for a long time. > Their warning practices are amazing. I one time was way north of Peoria driving south on > the interstate, and I saw signs warning of "Construction Ahead, 40 miles"!
Speaking of standards, the rest of the world has been metric for quite some time.
The problem is that MS strongly ties the language with the IDE.
That is, whenever C# (or Visual [anything] for that matter) gets new features, we have to buy a new version of Visual Studio to take advantage of it.
For every developer that may work on a project that will use these new features (and our developers tend to move around).
I have run into several annoying bugs and limitations in the.NET framework 1.1 and MS's response has invariably been "it is fixed in 2.0". However, to use it, we will have to buy VS 2005. Want a bug fix? Buy the new version! Neat. Now C# 3.0 comes along. Will we have to upgrade to VS 200x yet again?
With these forced upgrades, MS has effectively implemented a subscription model for their software.
* Work internationally without major headaches. (e.g., a transfer of funds between, say, Australia and Canada when both the sender and the receiver work in their native funds)?
* Allow flexibility in sending and receiving the funds (by credit card, debit card, direct link to bank account, etc.)?
* Have low fees and reasonable conversion rates?
* Are well established and trusted by people?
* Have reasonable and effective customer service, fraud protection and dispute resolution policies?
A friend of mine, who was at the time the sysadmin of a moderately large company, once told me that management wanted him to start tracking personal internet use. The reason? The load on their internet connection was so heavy that it was affecting job-related activities. Mind you, that was in the early '90s and bandwidth per capita was quite meager.
I suggested that he announce a new corporate policy - all internet traffic is to be logged, analyzed, broken down, summarized and anything suspicios or compromising will be sent to corresponding sent to department heads. I argued that the mere announcement would be enough to fix the problem so no actual measures will have to be implemented.
He tried it. It worked like a charm.
Traffic immediately dropped to manageble levels, management got off the admin's back and people stopped sending sensitive emails over unsecure protocols (a good thing!)
> And, no, chess has not been PROVEN a draw. But please find me any expert > who thinks chess is a forced win for white... If there were a forced win, > several hundred years of chess (in current form) would have discovered it. > Chess programs would have stumbled on it.
By the same logic, if chess is a a forced draw by black, several hundred years of chess (in current form) would have discovered it. Chess programs would have stumbled on it. Yadda, yadda yadda...
> If you disagree... find me any Master level player or higher that corroberates your view.
Find me any Master level player or higher that has solved chess.
That is, unless you accept "proof by concensus", in which case the Earth was the centre of the universe up until the 16th century and the speed of light was not constant until the 19th.
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The fact that the later outnumber the former something like 100000 to 1 illustrates how really democratic the society is.
> Plugins are not the same as extensions. But yes, Seamonkey supports
> both plugins and extensions. The extension system for Seamonkey is
> nowhere near as polished as Firefox's, but it's similar. You can't just
> drop any old Firefox extension into Seamonkey and have it work, but it
> is possible to make an extension that works for both.
Perhaps I should elaborate.
Currently I am using IE (and its derivatives) and considering switching to either Seamonkey or Firefox/Thunderbird.
I have heard opinions (mostly here) that Seamonkey is preferred to the FF/TB combination but my concern is that the interesting plugins/extensions will not work with it.
Thus the question.
> Oh, and just to pick a nit: there's no CamelCase in the names of
> Firefox and Thunderbird.
Noted.
Does it support plugins and, if it does, can it use the FireFox/ThunderBird ones?
> The government is by definition a public body that we, ideally, control [...]
> They take your taxes, period. I think it is quite reasonable to insist that what
> the government does/creates with our money be made, if at all possible, public.
> That's how government is supposed to work.
That only works with a government that only governs.
Unfortunately, some governments are not content with just governing. They want to rule.
Unfortunately it seems that the previous generation (X800XL) was hurt by the the driver upgrade.
> Then let's get active and do something about this. If thousands of geeks
> can't manage to communicate to the millions of Americans how REDICULOUS this
> crap is, how it enslaves them financially, the injustice of it all
> can't communicate that with the INTERNET available, well then we deserve what
> we have.>/i>
Unfortunately, the "millions of Americans" that you speak of have practically zero influence on the way their country is run (case in point: GWB's war in Iraq).
However, you could try to play the game...
Get together, form a company, brainstorm ideas, patent everything you can think of, give free licenses to OSS etc., sue everybody else.
If the capital issue can be resolved, this could be a tool to force a reform.
> I'd hate to have to go to all the websites I visit and change my stored address AGAIN...
> when this time I wouldn't be getting anything new for all the bother
Given the rock bottom prices of domain names nowadays, you should never have to change your email address again.
> On the other hand, there is the state of Illinois where I also lived for a long time.
> Their warning practices are amazing. I one time was way north of Peoria driving south on
> the interstate, and I saw signs warning of "Construction Ahead, 40 miles"!
Speaking of standards, the rest of the world has been metric for quite some time.
here
The problem is that MS strongly ties the language with the IDE.
That is, whenever C# (or Visual [anything] for that matter) gets new features, we have to buy a new version of Visual Studio to take advantage of it.
For every developer that may work on a project that will use these new features (and our developers tend to move around).
I have run into several annoying bugs and limitations in the
Now C# 3.0 comes along. Will we have to upgrade to VS 200x yet again?
With these forced upgrades, MS has effectively implemented a subscription model for their software.
> WorldPay, FirePay, NETeller, ProtX, BidPay, NoChex, Verisign, SecPay,
> FastPay, NetBanx, ChronoPay, PPPay, MoneyBookers, ACT eCash, 900Pay,
> Citadel, etc. etc.
But which ones:
* Work internationally without major headaches.
(e.g., a transfer of funds between, say, Australia and Canada when both the sender and the receiver work in their native funds)?
* Allow flexibility in sending and receiving the funds
(by credit card, debit card, direct link to bank account, etc.)?
* Have low fees and reasonable conversion rates?
* Are well established and trusted by people?
* Have reasonable and effective customer service, fraud protection and dispute resolution policies?
Well, you could suspend your 3.5" drives in a 5.25" cage to get rid of vibration (reducing noise).
I was thinking of suspending a smallish 3.5" cage inside the 5.25" one.
Anyone knows where one can get old, possibly broken, computers for free in the Toronto area for such experiments?
So what are good PayPal alternatives for buying and selling stuff?
Preferrably working across the 49th parallel
> Isn't this illegal under the Geneva Convention?
> I seem to recall a ban on weapons that blinded people.
And your point is?
> It's shit like this that makes me want to leave the country.
It's shit like this that should make you want to change the country.
SPAce Meat is already in my kitchen.
An ungodly heap of money trumps your rights.
An ungodly heap of money trumps common sense.
Come to thing of it,
an ungodly heap of money trumps everything.
Why are you so surprised?
> After all, THOUSANDS, perhaps MILLIONS, of America's young people gather in libraries EVERY DAY.
You wish...
> Naming is important
Indeed.
> a finally clause would have eliminated SO much redundancy in my code over the years...
Ever hear about destructors?
A friend of mine, who was at the time the sysadmin of a moderately large company, once told me that management wanted him to start tracking personal internet use.
The reason? The load on their internet connection was so heavy that it was affecting job-related activities. Mind you, that was in the early '90s and bandwidth per capita was quite meager.
I suggested that he announce a new corporate policy - all internet traffic is to be logged, analyzed, broken down, summarized and anything suspicios or compromising will be sent to corresponding sent to department heads.
I argued that the mere announcement would be enough to fix the problem so no actual measures will have to be implemented.
He tried it. It worked like a charm.
Traffic immediately dropped to manageble levels, management got off the admin's back and people stopped sending sensitive emails over unsecure protocols (a good thing!)
Flogging will continue until morale improves.
> He doesn't get general protection unless [...]
That would be a general protection fault.
> We never met anything else that could beat us at chess.
So we built one.
> And, no, chess has not been PROVEN a draw. But please find me any expert
> who thinks chess is a forced win for white... If there were a forced win,
> several hundred years of chess (in current form) would have discovered it.
> Chess programs would have stumbled on it.
By the same logic, if chess is a a forced draw by black, several hundred years of chess (in current form) would have discovered it. Chess programs would have stumbled on it. Yadda, yadda yadda...
> If you disagree... find me any Master level player or higher that corroberates your view.
Find me any Master level player or higher that has solved chess.
That is, unless you accept "proof by concensus", in which case the Earth was the centre of the universe up until the 16th century and the speed of light was not constant until the 19th.