Similar experiences under Arch Linux/KDE. Firefox displayed the java version (not the JS version for some reason), and opera displayed both. After some fiddling around, this is what I found: - Switching between tasks (alt-tab in my case). Focus switches (I could type in kwrite), but somehow the popup is still on top of all other windows. - Switching workspaces via hotkeys: Actually switches to the other workspace, but the popup is still on top of everything. - Alt+drag to move has no visible effect. - Alt+F4 closes both popups, in both opera and firefox.
You're right. I said as much in my post.
Your GP still has a point. It's against the SPIRIT of libre software. He didnt say it was against the letter of the current license text, neither did I. Some people claim it might be, but thats another discussion altogether, and since I'm not familiar with the US justice system I won't enter into it.
I'll take this slow, so maybe you will understand: This article is about the iPhone. The iPhone uses the WebKit library (LGPL), and maybe others. Noone claims Apple is not offering source code for the FOSS projects they utilize. But with (L)GPL v3 there will be specific clauses requiring that developers like apple and tivo let you recompile and use a interface-compatible version on the hardware they use. This is very much in the spirit of libre software.
Steve jobs does not think that is a good idea. Therefore, he does clearly not agree with the spirit of libre software. Note that this might not be a legal issue per se, eg if WebKit stays gplv2. But, the GPs point is valid anyway.
Nordic countries nor Europe weren't build in a decade,
Actually, Norway is wealthy only because of natural resources, mainly oil and waterfalls (power plants). Our infrastructure is partly buildt by nazi germany during ww2(really, a startling amount of railroads and roads, some powerplants etc) or after ww2, funded by the US. So Norway was buildt in about 60-70 years, mostly in the first 35 or so.
Norway should have read the contract before they signed it.
This is not a contract that all schools in Norway, or the norwgian directorate for education entered into. This is Microsofts licensing option for schools, used by SOME schools and school districts. I dare say the schools who used this licensing scheme did abide by it. Parts of this licensing agreement has now been deemed unlawful.
They did so only because they are a reasonable company
Did you even read the slashdot summary? Some parts of the contract are illegal in norway. So I think Microsoft will have to change them, since our justice department is bought, like yours. FTA:
- We made it clear to Microsoft that we were preparing sanctions, as the school agreements excluxded competitors from this market. Now that they have met our demands, we dismiss the case, says NCA(norwegian competition authority, my note) department director Jostein Skaar to Norwegian daily Dagbladet.
Dear Mr. Anonymous Coward, I'm going to be REALLY nice here and assume there is some substance under your ramblings, not just pure trollage.
What exactly did Salahi lie about in court? Please enlighten us, since you were there. Just claiming someone lied, on a public website, would be libel, wouldnt it?:p
You and Kaplan claim Salahi harassed his employer, Salahi claims he tried to contact Kaplans ISP, to make them pull nazi allegations about Salahi from Kaplans webpage. Until I read the letter myself, I wont make up my mind. You obviously have, though.
Btw, I started reading the court documents, and I feel that any plaintiff who refers to the defendant as "the kid" in a letter to the courts ought to lose by default, but I guess thats just me.
Not entirely true. You are not free to alter-and-incorporate the codebase without making those changes freely avaialable to everyone else.
NOT true. You are not free to DISTRIBUTE modified versions, without making the source aviable under the GPL to the customer. No part of the GPL says you have to set up a webpage and show your changes to the world, but you're not able to restrict your lisencees (if any) from doing just that.
My point was not "naughty you, these bugs should not be there". My point was that you should have some fairly good idea as to where the bug is; it must be in your sanity checking (or lack thereof). Adding some logging when the assertments fail in debug mode, and then asking for the customers dataset, or asking the customer to run a debug build, might also go a long way.
Yeah, it's kinda easy if you're white and speak english. If you're not and you don't, you have to learn norwegian and stuff. Check the job postings at opera.com:D
If you have no idea where in your code your data structures can reach an unsound state, you dont use proper encapsulation. If one of my data objects reach an unsound state, it's because of a bug in a member function (or in c, a void member_function(object*,...), because they should be doing error checking.
[snip]This release addresses a crash problem with the session extension when register_globals is turned on that was introduced in PHP 4.4.5.[snip](emphasis mine)
If you use register_globals, you deserve all bugs that hit you. Period.
Fsck, I've got old full height 4GB SCSI drives for them to fumble with...:) I bet I've got some old 300MB drives to deal with too.
Fill them with random data. If you're subpoenaed, say it's a truecrypt volume, and give them a password. When they say it doesnt work, respond with "Oh no! my files!"
You're right, I for one support the right of every middle aged BMW driver to maim passerbys horribly.
(Or, slightly less inflammatory: You think age and CAR BRAND, no less, is an indicative of proper driving? I'm glad I live in another country, so you wont be driving on the same roads as me...)
As far as I understand it, Gore uses the worst-case numbers, the ones you quoted were the "most likely"-numbers. But remeber that unless we stop polluting NOW, sea levels will not stop increasing in 2100 (and by now i meant the very second I posted this comment. Oooops).
Could they emulate Apple once again and do a OSX, that is, port all that is worth to salvage from their current technology over to a decent foundation?
That would be.NET, right? Ooops, Mono beat them to it.
Well, the liberal party in Norway is the smallest of the mainstream parties. In the latest election (2005) they got 5.9% of the votes. The next party down the line is the Workers Communist Party =)
The GPL is an easy way to license your copyrighted works. So the GPL has nothing to do with wether your code can be considered a derivative work of something else. But IF your code is a derivative of code you are using under the GPL, then you need to follow the terms of the license, or lose the right to distribute the software.
For really large files in fact (13GB or more!) deleting the file can take over a minute on most IDE based disks!
Bs.
[root:/]$ dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=1024 count=13631488 13631488+0 records in 13631488+0 records out 13958643712 bytes (14 GB) copied, 432.372 s, 32.3 MB/s [root:/]$ ls -lh big* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13G Mar 27 18:13 bigfile [root:/]$ time rm bigfile
real 0m20.218s user 0m0.000s sys 0m1.952s [root:/]$ uname -srvmpio Linux 2.6.20-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Mar 24 10:51:35 CET 2007 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
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Similar experiences under Arch Linux/KDE.
Firefox displayed the java version (not the JS version for some reason), and opera displayed both.
After some fiddling around, this is what I found:
- Switching between tasks (alt-tab in my case). Focus switches (I could type in kwrite), but somehow the popup is still on top of all other windows.
- Switching workspaces via hotkeys: Actually switches to the other workspace, but the popup is still on top of everything.
- Alt+drag to move has no visible effect.
- Alt+F4 closes both popups, in both opera and firefox.
You assume his friends are using it in a proper matter.
You're right. I said as much in my post. Your GP still has a point. It's against the SPIRIT of libre software. He didnt say it was against the letter of the current license text, neither did I. Some people claim it might be, but thats another discussion altogether, and since I'm not familiar with the US justice system I won't enter into it.
I'll take this slow, so maybe you will understand:
This article is about the iPhone.
The iPhone uses the WebKit library (LGPL), and maybe others.
Noone claims Apple is not offering source code for the FOSS projects they utilize.
But with (L)GPL v3 there will be specific clauses requiring that developers like apple and tivo let you recompile and use a interface-compatible version on the hardware they use. This is very much in the spirit of libre software.
Steve jobs does not think that is a good idea. Therefore, he does clearly not agree with the spirit of libre software.
Note that this might not be a legal issue per se, eg if WebKit stays gplv2. But, the GPs point is valid anyway.
Grand conclusion: GP has a point, you dont.
The SWS has you...
Heh. Even after two previews. Since our justice department is NOT bought, like yours.
This is not a contract that all schools in Norway, or the norwgian directorate for education entered into. This is Microsofts licensing option for schools, used by SOME schools and school districts. I dare say the schools who used this licensing scheme did abide by it. Parts of this licensing agreement has now been deemed unlawful.
Did you even read the slashdot summary? Some parts of the contract are illegal in norway. So I think Microsoft will have to change them, since our justice department is bought, like yours. FTA:
Dear Mr. Anonymous Coward,
:p
I'm going to be REALLY nice here and assume there is some substance under your ramblings, not just pure trollage.
What exactly did Salahi lie about in court?
Please enlighten us, since you were there. Just claiming someone lied, on a public website, would be libel, wouldnt it?
You and Kaplan claim Salahi harassed his employer, Salahi claims he tried to contact Kaplans ISP, to make them pull nazi allegations about Salahi from Kaplans webpage. Until I read the letter myself, I wont make up my mind. You obviously have, though.
Btw, I started reading the court documents, and I feel that any plaintiff who refers to the defendant as "the kid" in a letter to the courts ought to lose by default, but I guess thats just me.
NOT true. You are not free to DISTRIBUTE modified versions, without making the source aviable under the GPL to the customer. No part of the GPL says you have to set up a webpage and show your changes to the world, but you're not able to restrict your lisencees (if any) from doing just that.
Some would argue that doing no evil will prevent alienating consumers and customers, and thereby keeps the bottom line from dropping.
Well, if it's from some years back, it's a 'have you done anything about it yet you slob'-story =)
My point was not "naughty you, these bugs should not be there". My point was that you should have some fairly good idea as to where the bug is; it must be in your sanity checking (or lack thereof). Adding some logging when the assertments fail in debug mode, and then asking for the customers dataset, or asking the customer to run a debug build, might also go a long way.
Yeah, it's kinda easy if you're white and speak english. If you're not and you don't, you have to learn norwegian and stuff. Check the job postings at opera.com :D
If you have no idea where in your code your data structures can reach an unsound state, you dont use proper encapsulation. If one of my data objects reach an unsound state, it's because of a bug in a member function (or in c, a void member_function(object*, ...), because they should be doing error checking.
If you use register_globals, you deserve all bugs that hit you. Period.
Thanks, you've made my day =)
You're right, I for one support the right of every middle aged BMW driver to maim passerbys horribly.
(Or, slightly less inflammatory: You think age and CAR BRAND, no less, is an indicative of proper driving? I'm glad I live in another country, so you wont be driving on the same roads as me...)
As far as I understand it, Gore uses the worst-case numbers, the ones you quoted were the "most likely"-numbers. But remeber that unless we stop polluting NOW, sea levels will not stop increasing in 2100 (and by now i meant the very second I posted this comment. Oooops).
That would be
Ooops, Mono beat them to it.
Use IMAP? :P
Well, the liberal party in Norway is the smallest of the mainstream parties. In the latest election (2005) they got 5.9% of the votes.
c tion_results.2C_parliamentary_elections_1906-2005
The next party down the line is the Workers Communist Party =)
Election results from 1906 and onwards can (of course) be found on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venstre_(Norway)#Ele
The GPL is an easy way to license your copyrighted works. So the GPL has nothing to do with wether your code can be considered a derivative work of something else. But IF your code is a derivative of code you are using under the GPL, then you need to follow the terms of the license, or lose the right to distribute the software.