Page Plus is a VZW counterpart; depending on how you use it is actually cheaper. My plan is $80 for 1850-2000 minutes for up to 365 days (the variable is the $0.50/mo charge against the $80, so if you stretch it out 12 months you 'lose' 150 4-cent minutes).
Since it is VZW network, coverage is what you expect from VZW & I have been very happy with their service - especially since you can get a local dealer to work with and call a guy (during business hours) who answers his cell phone to assist if you need something (I can still call the toll-free number as well). I can't get that with the major carriers, nor 154 min/mo for $6.67/mo tax-included - great for those of us anti-socials on/.
Charter will cancel your plan on the spot if you try this, I tried when they raised my rate 50% ($30 to $45) for a speed increase I didn't ask for (the old plan was cancelled). They were perfectly willing to cancel my service altogether (and if not for Uverse being the only other provider avbl, I might have).
Regrettably undoing mods by posting, but Mark 12:43-44:
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
Or in other words, a man paying $100,000 in taxes when he earned $10M pays less taxes than the man earning $45,000 and pays $10,000. The raw dollar amount spent does not tell the whole story - not even close.
If "enough" for me to pay in taxes is X% of my earnings, "enough" for him should not be X-Y%. Even moreso if you chose to acknowledge the moral implications as he is paying 'of his abundance' whereas the tax dollars I pay could have purchased a second car for my family or been put away towards college for my children. I do not begrudge (much) paying taxes (primary exception is sales tax on food, collecting this is an evil practice as it only really impacts the poor - I'm looking at you, the State of Utah), it is my duty as a citizen; I do, however begrudge the wealthy exploiting the system to pay a much smaller share than I while at the same time proclaiming that they carry the greater tax burden. It's just dishonest.
As for Mitt, I respectfully ask you to put your money where your mouth is. You claim to have payed no less than 13%, well the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Your father knew this; said T. George Harris in "Romney's Way, A Man and an Idea"
"He balked when I badgered him for a copy of his latest Form 1040, the Federal Individual Income Tax Return," Harris wrote. "Release of the document, while it might serve a political purpose, would not prove very much, he argued. One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show, and what mattered in personal finance was how a man conducted himself over the long haul."
"Stumped by this argument, I was not prepared for the move that it eventually led him to make: He ordered up all the Form 1040's that he and Mrs. Rome had filed over the past twelve years — including those profitable ones from when he saved the American Motors Company from bankruptcy and became a millionaire on the company's stock options."
I want to like you, Mitt. The promises of Obama that caused me to vote for him have largely not come into fruition (Guantanamo Bay detention camp is still open, Patriot Act is still law, TSA is bigger and stronger than ever), but you appear to also be no different. It's no wonder so many are completely disenchanted by the whole system of politics today.
Have you ever spent a summer in Texas? I use about that much in the summer months (A/C set at 79 degrees) and about 1/3 that in the other months (in line with usage that you see). Add a bit to that if you have a pool (we do not, but *very* common in TX) and for a larger home. Not ridicules at all, just different than what you are accustomed to.
Hotel would never do this, but sounds like something a geeky guest should have. It'll take them months if they ever discover it was filled with epoxy, meanwhile your room is slightly more tamper-proof.
Nice of you to sign your posts when posting anon, but I don't think you're a moron at all;)
I love laptops. They're portable & easy to take everywhere. I even do most of my work on one. That said, when I go home to play games, there is no way in the hot place that I want to game on a laptop. I don't need portability in my gaming, but I do need a non-mobile graphics card, full-size keyboard and mouse and multiple large monitors. Of course I can plug these into a laptop (except the graphics card, of course), but what's the point? If I'm tethered to the rest of this, what benefit does the laptop give except to play at the homes of friends (sans monitors)? I'm no teenager (not for nearly 20 years now), so I don't really ever feel the need to play games elsewhere (and if I do, it's not like my rig can't be moved).
Nope, outside the very young set, I can't see gaming on laptops to be very popular.
Your (theoretical) family requires multiple Dropbox accounts but only has 1 phone? For me, a draw of Dropbox is I can use the same Dropbox account on multiple PCs, keeping them synced. This way if the laptop you were using for school has a dead battery/etc when walking out the door to class, you simply grab another & it has your latest stuff on it (for example).
Besides, you can always claim a cell is a landline & have 2 GV accts. Now you have 3 numbers & 1 phone, if a family can't do a 3:1 ratio on phones:Dropbox accounts, they are doing something wrong.
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Hey, now, personal responsibility is only for poor people and old people, not rich people that run these operations. ~
Page Plus is a VZW counterpart; depending on how you use it is actually cheaper. My plan is $80 for 1850-2000 minutes for up to 365 days (the variable is the $0.50/mo charge against the $80, so if you stretch it out 12 months you 'lose' 150 4-cent minutes).
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Since it is VZW network, coverage is what you expect from VZW & I have been very happy with their service - especially since you can get a local dealer to work with and call a guy (during business hours) who answers his cell phone to assist if you need something (I can still call the toll-free number as well). I can't get that with the major carriers, nor 154 min/mo for $6.67/mo tax-included - great for those of us anti-socials on
This is why we're doing it under the ocean.
I rather liked it bolded.
count on one hand the number of Windows 8 users worldwide
7 of them
Just how many fingers do you have?!?
I'm sorry, that's it! I'm sick of the overreaching of the federal govt! The DoD has NO BUSINESS involving themselves with anti-trust issues!
:P
I too could do this prior to their 30-45mb for everyone policy. Now I just miss having meaningful alternatives :(
Amazon sells tangibles too ...
Charter will cancel your plan on the spot if you try this, I tried when they raised my rate 50% ($30 to $45) for a speed increase I didn't ask for (the old plan was cancelled). They were perfectly willing to cancel my service altogether (and if not for Uverse being the only other provider avbl, I might have).
I can't do italics? Really? Dang!
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
Or in other words, a man paying $100,000 in taxes when he earned $10M pays less taxes than the man earning $45,000 and pays $10,000. The raw dollar amount spent does not tell the whole story - not even close.
If "enough" for me to pay in taxes is X% of my earnings, "enough" for him should not be X-Y%. Even moreso if you chose to acknowledge the moral implications as he is paying 'of his abundance' whereas the tax dollars I pay could have purchased a second car for my family or been put away towards college for my children. I do not begrudge (much) paying taxes (primary exception is sales tax on food, collecting this is an evil practice as it only really impacts the poor - I'm looking at you, the State of Utah), it is my duty as a citizen; I do, however begrudge the wealthy exploiting the system to pay a much smaller share than I while at the same time proclaiming that they carry the greater tax burden. It's just dishonest.
As for Mitt, I respectfully ask you to put your money where your mouth is. You claim to have payed no less than 13%, well the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Your father knew this; said T. George Harris in "Romney's Way, A Man and an Idea"
"He balked when I badgered him for a copy of his latest Form 1040, the Federal Individual Income Tax Return," Harris wrote. "Release of the document, while it might serve a political purpose, would not prove very much, he argued. One year could be a fluke, perhaps done for show, and what mattered in personal finance was how a man conducted himself over the long haul."
"Stumped by this argument, I was not prepared for the move that it eventually led him to make: He ordered up all the Form 1040's that he and Mrs. Rome had filed over the past twelve years — including those profitable ones from when he saved the American Motors Company from bankruptcy and became a millionaire on the company's stock options."
I want to like you, Mitt. The promises of Obama that caused me to vote for him have largely not come into fruition (Guantanamo Bay detention camp is still open, Patriot Act is still law, TSA is bigger and stronger than ever), but you appear to also be no different. It's no wonder so many are completely disenchanted by the whole system of politics today.
But look at how much money you saved by bundling!~
He's posting from Kepler
This just in ...
Have you ever spent a summer in Texas? I use about that much in the summer months (A/C set at 79 degrees) and about 1/3 that in the other months (in line with usage that you see). Add a bit to that if you have a pool (we do not, but *very* common in TX) and for a larger home. Not ridicules at all, just different than what you are accustomed to.
Is that like "all of the above"?
Or just drive from top to bottom of Texas. One single state, over 900miles (almost 1500km to you non USA'ers). We're the second most populated state & 26th in population density (pretty much right smack in the middle).
Hotel would never do this, but sounds like something a geeky guest should have. It'll take them months if they ever discover it was filled with epoxy, meanwhile your room is slightly more tamper-proof.
How many continents are there again?
Hey, I have 3 kids, I'm doing my part too!
That wasn't the only one, either.
Sigh. Moron.
Nice of you to sign your posts when posting anon, but I don't think you're a moron at all ;)
I love laptops. They're portable & easy to take everywhere. I even do most of my work on one. That said, when I go home to play games, there is no way in the hot place that I want to game on a laptop. I don't need portability in my gaming, but I do need a non-mobile graphics card, full-size keyboard and mouse and multiple large monitors. Of course I can plug these into a laptop (except the graphics card, of course), but what's the point? If I'm tethered to the rest of this, what benefit does the laptop give except to play at the homes of friends (sans monitors)? I'm no teenager (not for nearly 20 years now), so I don't really ever feel the need to play games elsewhere (and if I do, it's not like my rig can't be moved).
Nope, outside the very young set, I can't see gaming on laptops to be very popular.
BROWN shoes with BLACK pants?????
Your (theoretical) family requires multiple Dropbox accounts but only has 1 phone? For me, a draw of Dropbox is I can use the same Dropbox account on multiple PCs, keeping them synced. This way if the laptop you were using for school has a dead battery/etc when walking out the door to class, you simply grab another & it has your latest stuff on it (for example).
Besides, you can always claim a cell is a landline & have 2 GV accts. Now you have 3 numbers & 1 phone, if a family can't do a 3:1 ratio on phones:Dropbox accounts, they are doing something wrong.
nice.