As a recent escapee to Medicare, from the wilderness of the bears and quicksand of American insurance companies, I appreciate finding a sane precis so early in the postings.
Yes, it's a long way from Single Payer, but it sets up the base to reach that goal, for the first time since the battle was engaged so many decades ago. That's the reason for the insanely fierce, emotional and tragically stupid firestorm of corporate-instigated rhetoric from the Republican zombies on this. (Does it strike you as ODD that every single member of the Republican party votes in absolute lockstep? That's not representative government, it's blind partisanship. But I digress.)
IF this bill passes, the momentum will be unstoppable. The first effect will be that the average citizen will finally look at the actual bill that passes, and will realize that it is no longer necessary to lie in order to get medical care. It will also, I think, stabilize medical pricing and except for some preliminary price skirmishing with Congress, encourage some shy Congresspersons to follow Kucinich to his final goal of Single Payer, which is, strangely, very popular with the citizenry when presented fairly.
I'm not concerned about the details. The bones are there to build on. It will take a decade to achieve Single Payer, but we've already got Medicaid, Medicare, TriCare and some popular and massive non-profits (The head of California Kaiser came out for Single Payer years ago.) The finances are obvious and simple. Insure both sick and well, and it averages out to cheaper care, ON AVERAGE. The freeloader wannabes who are healthy now will bitch the loudest when they don't have free medical care. The system will groan for a while as Americans catch up with their neglected items, but in twenty years, we'll be richer in every way. Maybe Americans will be free of a major free-floating security worry without being rich or old.
So now we bite fingernails for a few days.
I for one welcome our new and interesting voyage into group supervision. If you think about it, our genome is pre-adapted to this sort of group surveillance, according to the cognitive science researchers. Wiki "Dunbar's number" (~150) to start.
Are you implying that a business would actually keep paper in a filing cabinet, rather than as a text-searchable PDF?
"Here, look at this. Now give it back!"
Gawd, what a concept!
If you wanna be all historical, maybe you should look past 1648 and rethink the total lack of empathy embodied in the Treaty of Westphalia.
Don't peer through your professorial spectacles at me.
You don't get it either.
International governance is a wee poor thing compared to a real human government for all humans equally.
" In 1998, at a Symposium on the continuing political Relevance of the Peace of Westphalia, then-NATO Secretary General Javier Solana said that "humanity and democracy [were] two principles essentially irrelevant to the original Westphalian order" and levied a criticism that "the Westphalian system had its limits. For one, the principle of sovereignty it relied on also produced the basis for rivalry, not community of states; exclusion, not integration."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty#Modern_views_on_the_.27Westphalian_Systems.27
"If you can increase efficiency enough, it should be possible to reduce the amount of damage that needs to be done in order to head off genuinely bad outcomes."
ASSUMING no yachts, no conspicuous consumption. Bad assumption.
Apparently you geeks haven't driven heavy equipment in rough situations. It's actually very easy to stabilize your hand and arm under horizontal g forces.
Go rent a Bobcat or a trencher, and learn a new skill. Or fly a model copter, or a real one.
Free speech is vastly overrated.
Consider social stability. How far are you willing to allow the clever to demagogue the unskilled public?
Are only children to be protected against emotional parasites?
How about a serious discussion instead of parroted civil rights fake truisms.
I speak as a member and former Board member of a very large ACLU chapter.
Watch your ideology. It can bite back.
Sounds like this is happening in many places right now as we melt old ice in our carbon hubris.
And that wicked old sun keeps irradiating genomes with UV, doo dah...
I usually cruise/. for useful information, but this subject I know frontwards and backwards and there's a LOT OF BAD ADVICE BEING GIVEN.
Talking about 200 amp transfer switches is a dead giveaway that you're talking to someone who has seen it done once somewhere, but has not theory.
Talking about building a shed outdoors means they're not familiar with cooling requirements.
The Honda eu3000i has a remote start option. It's about 80$ for a reasonable size transfer switch, with instructions, from Home Depot or similar.
You can have a male plug dangling from one side of the transfer switch. By definition, it will not be hot, ever, unless it's plugged into the generator.
The purpose of the transfer switch is to isolate the power lines from the generator, and to allow the house to look like a single appliance.
It is a felony that will be prosecuted to connect your generator to the power lines, not to mention that: if the power comes on, the surge between your out of phase generator and the powerlines will likely hurt your generator, which is trivial compared to getting arrested for manslaughter for killing a power line worker.
There is a natural gas carburetor kit available for the eu3000i, so if you have natural gas, you have house heat and electricity, perhaps three times as cheap as gasoline. I've worked out the figures, and at the current natgas costs, the generator is almost as cheap as grid electrics.
You can do it yourself, using $/Btu for gasoline and natgas as the apples to apples comparison. The Honda is extremely quiet and cleanrunning and cools the muffler with the motor/generator airflow. It does produce carbon monoxide, so be sure to completely isolate the generator exhaust airflow from any possible air input to the house, like doors, windows, or leakage from the basement.
Put it outside, use a big chain through the handle. It only weighs 70#. It's really a gas engine with a huge alternator built into the flywheel, that puts out rectified AC to an ultracapacitor that's tapped by a 3Kw inverter as needed. The charge level of the capacitor determines engine speed, so it doesn't waste gas running fast when load is low.
It's not a scam. I'm a graduate in physics, electronic tech (up to color radar), former photovoltaic installer.
I'm also an "eco-preneur"(yeah, stupid name) and I've researched this as far as it goes, including conversations with Rob Styler, and deep digging on qualifications of the majors involved.
The main questions are scale on vertical integration and power feed to the fab plant, which is rumoured to be in Maine and powered by cheap Quebec Hydro off-peak.
They are very tightlipped on who is funding it. What follows is speculation:
There are some wonderful possibilities in combining $4/peak watt with $2.60 per peak watt rebates in California, which go to the owner of the system, not the real estate it's parked on. Also, public money, as in ethanol subsidies, seem to be a voting session away in congress.
As such, I'd prefer to see my taxes go to photovoltaic roofs than corn farms owned by Archer Daniels Midland.
The two year energy payback (energy produced to replace energy used in manufacture and transport) seems quite reasonable if the power is hydro.
As explained elsewhere, net metering is yearlong. You pay for all the power generated, but the system is engineered for net zero annually. The grid acts as an infinite battery.
You only buy from the grid if your usage exceeds total output, but the output of the panels doesn't have to be at the same time you use the energy.
I'm currently suspending sales until I get solid information about the fab plant breaking ground and the financing being secure from venture capital. I have solid information sources in the venture capital industry.
I'll post if I get news, because if this is good, it will be massive. There are a lot of people willing to rent their roof just to help the climate.
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Your mothr may be allergic to milk. My wife was. No milk, no arthritis.
We call them fractals here.
As a recent escapee to Medicare, from the wilderness of the bears and quicksand of American insurance companies, I appreciate finding a sane precis so early in the postings. Yes, it's a long way from Single Payer, but it sets up the base to reach that goal, for the first time since the battle was engaged so many decades ago. That's the reason for the insanely fierce, emotional and tragically stupid firestorm of corporate-instigated rhetoric from the Republican zombies on this. (Does it strike you as ODD that every single member of the Republican party votes in absolute lockstep? That's not representative government, it's blind partisanship. But I digress.) IF this bill passes, the momentum will be unstoppable. The first effect will be that the average citizen will finally look at the actual bill that passes, and will realize that it is no longer necessary to lie in order to get medical care. It will also, I think, stabilize medical pricing and except for some preliminary price skirmishing with Congress, encourage some shy Congresspersons to follow Kucinich to his final goal of Single Payer, which is, strangely, very popular with the citizenry when presented fairly. I'm not concerned about the details. The bones are there to build on. It will take a decade to achieve Single Payer, but we've already got Medicaid, Medicare, TriCare and some popular and massive non-profits (The head of California Kaiser came out for Single Payer years ago.) The finances are obvious and simple. Insure both sick and well, and it averages out to cheaper care, ON AVERAGE. The freeloader wannabes who are healthy now will bitch the loudest when they don't have free medical care. The system will groan for a while as Americans catch up with their neglected items, but in twenty years, we'll be richer in every way. Maybe Americans will be free of a major free-floating security worry without being rich or old. So now we bite fingernails for a few days.
We lost. Deal with it.
You have a clear plastic Saturn? Are you Wonder Woman?
I missed the part where you told us they were radiating/transmitting antennas.
I for one welcome our new and interesting voyage into group supervision. If you think about it, our genome is pre-adapted to this sort of group surveillance, according to the cognitive science researchers. Wiki "Dunbar's number" (~150) to start.
Are you implying that a business would actually keep paper in a filing cabinet, rather than as a text-searchable PDF? "Here, look at this. Now give it back!" Gawd, what a concept!
If you wanna be all historical, maybe you should look past 1648 and rethink the total lack of empathy embodied in the Treaty of Westphalia. Don't peer through your professorial spectacles at me. You don't get it either. International governance is a wee poor thing compared to a real human government for all humans equally. " In 1998, at a Symposium on the continuing political Relevance of the Peace of Westphalia, then-NATO Secretary General Javier Solana said that "humanity and democracy [were] two principles essentially irrelevant to the original Westphalian order" and levied a criticism that "the Westphalian system had its limits. For one, the principle of sovereignty it relied on also produced the basis for rivalry, not community of states; exclusion, not integration." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westphalian_sovereignty#Modern_views_on_the_.27Westphalian_Systems.27
"If you can increase efficiency enough, it should be possible to reduce the amount of damage that needs to be done in order to head off genuinely bad outcomes." ASSUMING no yachts, no conspicuous consumption. Bad assumption.
God has never happened. Technology has. There, I fixed that for you.
Apparently you geeks haven't driven heavy equipment in rough situations. It's actually very easy to stabilize your hand and arm under horizontal g forces. Go rent a Bobcat or a trencher, and learn a new skill. Or fly a model copter, or a real one.
Free speech is vastly overrated. Consider social stability. How far are you willing to allow the clever to demagogue the unskilled public? Are only children to be protected against emotional parasites? How about a serious discussion instead of parroted civil rights fake truisms. I speak as a member and former Board member of a very large ACLU chapter. Watch your ideology. It can bite back.
You're still looking FORWARD to the end of the Republic?
Sounds like this is happening in many places right now as we melt old ice in our carbon hubris. And that wicked old sun keeps irradiating genomes with UV, doo dah...
Start with a nipple.
I usually cruise /. for useful information, but this subject I know frontwards and backwards and there's a LOT OF BAD ADVICE BEING GIVEN.
Talking about 200 amp transfer switches is a dead giveaway that you're talking to someone who has seen it done once somewhere, but has not theory.
Talking about building a shed outdoors means they're not familiar with cooling requirements.
The Honda eu3000i has a remote start option. It's about 80$ for a reasonable size transfer switch, with instructions, from Home Depot or similar.
You can have a male plug dangling from one side of the transfer switch. By definition, it will not be hot, ever, unless it's plugged into the generator.
The purpose of the transfer switch is to isolate the power lines from the generator, and to allow the house to look like a single appliance.
It is a felony that will be prosecuted to connect your generator to the power lines, not to mention that: if the power comes on, the surge between your out of phase generator and the powerlines will likely hurt your generator, which is trivial compared to getting arrested for manslaughter for killing a power line worker.
There is a natural gas carburetor kit available for the eu3000i, so if you have natural gas, you have house heat and electricity, perhaps three times as cheap as gasoline. I've worked out the figures, and at the current natgas costs, the generator is almost as cheap as grid electrics.
You can do it yourself, using $/Btu for gasoline and natgas as the apples to apples comparison. The Honda is extremely quiet and cleanrunning and cools the muffler with the motor/generator airflow. It does produce carbon monoxide, so be sure to completely isolate the generator exhaust airflow from any possible air input to the house, like doors, windows, or leakage from the basement.
Put it outside, use a big chain through the handle. It only weighs 70#. It's really a gas engine with a huge alternator built into the flywheel, that puts out rectified AC to an ultracapacitor that's tapped by a 3Kw inverter as needed. The charge level of the capacitor determines engine speed, so it doesn't waste gas running fast when load is low.
It's called LoJack.
Have you driven a Prius? I rallied against one in the Sierras, and they are pretty damn fast and flat!
It's not a scam. I'm a graduate in physics, electronic tech (up to color radar), former photovoltaic installer. I'm also an "eco-preneur"(yeah, stupid name) and I've researched this as far as it goes, including conversations with Rob Styler, and deep digging on qualifications of the majors involved. The main questions are scale on vertical integration and power feed to the fab plant, which is rumoured to be in Maine and powered by cheap Quebec Hydro off-peak. They are very tightlipped on who is funding it. What follows is speculation: There are some wonderful possibilities in combining $4/peak watt with $2.60 per peak watt rebates in California, which go to the owner of the system, not the real estate it's parked on. Also, public money, as in ethanol subsidies, seem to be a voting session away in congress. As such, I'd prefer to see my taxes go to photovoltaic roofs than corn farms owned by Archer Daniels Midland. The two year energy payback (energy produced to replace energy used in manufacture and transport) seems quite reasonable if the power is hydro. As explained elsewhere, net metering is yearlong. You pay for all the power generated, but the system is engineered for net zero annually. The grid acts as an infinite battery. You only buy from the grid if your usage exceeds total output, but the output of the panels doesn't have to be at the same time you use the energy. I'm currently suspending sales until I get solid information about the fab plant breaking ground and the financing being secure from venture capital. I have solid information sources in the venture capital industry. I'll post if I get news, because if this is good, it will be massive. There are a lot of people willing to rent their roof just to help the climate.
One of the Citizenre majors professionally designs grid-tie inverters. He's pretty well known.