Where do we draw the line on 'new generation of kids?' Because I'm turning on 22 and I don't really want to be thrown into their group. I grew up when the FPS genre was taking its first steps and I share your opinion too.
UAVs are fly by wire but also have limited AI control. AI isn't intelligent enough for missions that such things would fly.
There is a design-build-fly competition, http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/aiaadbf/, that American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics puts on every year that has fluid objectives. As team meet objectives, the next year has more difficult objectives but until it happens, the objectives stand. It's pretty interesting but I don't have the time for it. I think DARPA is even involved but I really don't know enough on it. Perhaps someone else on/. does.
I don't disagree at all. But I would just like it to be optional so if I play through the game again (which I likely will do), I don't have to go through it again. I think it would just be a nice feature to add.
is shrinkage about the gaming industry as a whole or just the gaming industry by the big boys (EA, Vivendi, etc.)?
Well I suppose it depends on who jumps in the cold pool...
especially when more games don't even come with decent manuals any more
It seems to have become the industry standard to include a required tutorial area where players learn how to do things in the game whether or not they have played it before. Is it really that hard to sit down and read the instruction manual? I don't really care to learn how to play "Super Happy Fun Time Extreme 2006" again when I decide to play through it again. Making such an area optional would be less of a hassle for those of us that bother to read the manual or want to play it through again.
When it comes to PCs, we're really starting to get fed up with games that
You also forgot the part about not patching certain problems ever (KotOR's load bug - the bug sucks but it hardly taints an excellent game but it was the first I thought of) or causing more problems with every patch (RAVENSHIELD!!!!!!!). Eventually, customers just get pissed off when you either make the experience worse or just ignore it because you can't reproduce it.
Seriously, why should we pay for products that aren't exciting or don't completely work. It's funny how companies like Bioware are doing just fine. Perhaps they just know how to do it correctly.
You can also fill the credit card envelopes with the daily coupons and send them back. I got a complaint about it once since it cost them money on the postage so I mailed them the postage too. Since thirty-seven cents is kind of heavy with seven nickels and two pennies, they probably had to pay extra postage.
An hour on the phone with Boll can leave you thinking that perhaps you were wrong after all, perhaps his movies - even those that cast Tara Reid as an archaeologist or tell the story of zombies hanging out at a rave - aren't that bad, just misunderstood.
"He's very personable, very honest," Carle said. "He's quick to laugh, he's a fun guy to hang out with."
Schramm, whose company distributed BloodRayne, said he was so charmed by Boll that he ended up putting some of his own money into promoting the film.
"He is so serious about making sure his investors are taken care of, that his actors are taken care of . . . he's more interested in that than anything at all," he said.
All of this just sounds like Boll is nothing more than a regular conman than anything else, except he doesn't run after taking your money. He just happens to be unsuccessful at it, like he is at making movies.
Since I'm pretty much sold on my next-gen console choice, I could care less about the hype.
I primarily play PC games and I was pretty sure they make showings at E3. Where is their mention? 2005 was a lackluster year in PC gaming (generally) and hopefully 2006 will be better. But considering the market diversity, I could understand not mentioning it however, one would think they would touch on hot titles for the year.
Dragonage won best in show in 2004 and I've seen little since. Bioware has pretty much been saying it will be ready when it's ready but eventually people forget about it and move on. Two years is too long to just sit there and show nothing.
I was under the impression that bar brawls were physical and considering the average/. reader, we would lose. Perhaps this should be the Internet equivalent of an angry debate.
It doesn't help that Americans generally are dumb on matters like this. Your insulation example for one. It just shows the greater problem of people not understanding what is going on.
That and Americans tend to think more now than down the road. $15k+ by not building an energy efficient house generally pays off since Americans constantly move around. However, suppose you stay put, you lose out big because you never bothered to think about energy efficiency.
It's mainly an American culture problem that I doubt will ever get corrected.
Perhaps this will allow for fan mods to be opened up again?
I know there were a few SG mods in development for HL2, etc.. but they were shut down with the SG-1 game being produced. What I don't know is any of the legal stuff involved with a fan mod besides the legal rights to the idea. Anyone know what's involved in greater detail?
I've been buying older games like KotOR2 and Baldur's Gate Collection just because I know they are good games and yet still cheap at the same time. I snagged KotOR2 for $30 and BG for under $20. I know I have to wait a while for prices to drop so I'm not playing the game immediately but at the same time, I don't have as much time to play games these days.
But I whole-heartedly agree with the lack of compelling games. There really weren't any titles that made me say 'Wow' (pun not intended). I just haven't noticed as many interesting or compelling games in recent times. Perhaps I am just expecting more from the game companies than I previously used to. Or perhaps it's a sign there should be a gaming revolution where something like Half-Life/Baldur's Gate/others shake up the industry and redefines it.
I had the first one happen. Is having the first one a prerequisite for having the second one or are they independent? I also ran into a bug in NCAA 2005 where if my roommate tried to play Boise State (he was Rice), the game would freeze. But I also think that is a rare problem.
I usually snap judge people just to see if I can generally assess people on the whole. I started about 4 years ago when I started college just for kicks. I notably remember when I was right but I don't remember when I was wrong but I think I'm about 70%. It would be interesting to see figures on people judgements because like it or not, people judge each other immediately.
But how many of those are ported from PC or have been ported to PC? I don't have an X-Box but I spot names of PC games easily.
I know Doom3, Splinter Cells, R6-3, and some other popular shooters were ported onto X-Box. The Halos, Fable, and Kotor (X-box came first but the PC version was made PC friendly and had some changes so not a pure port) were ports.
Since I don't play racing games and I'm not a huge fighting fan (only love Soul Calibur), I would like to know what X-Box only games I should be excited about that I didn't mention.
"Red Faction gave Half-Life's a run for it's money." - Granted it should have after 2 years. But instead, it was a mediorce shooter with a cool, destroyable environment. The only interesting thing was the Geo-Mod environment.
It also considers Baldur's Gate a Diablo-esque game. Laugh. Dungeon Siege is Diablo-esque. D&D just isn't the same. But I doubt anyone that wrote the article bothered to think about that.
Final Fantasy ##. We must fellate this series to no end. VII was excellent with IX being just as good. XIII, X, and X-2 are jokes and insults to the FF series. Some people may find them redeeming but I don't (which is all that matters to me on game opinions).
I just don't think most consoles have 100 games you HAVE to play before you die. Besides they throw FFXI on there and still try to make it pass for Playstation when it's really pretty much a PC game. Sigh... lists like this are stupid.
Besides, to hell with them anyways. I'm content with my Gamecube. I may have only bought 15 games but I enjoy all of them. And being a PC gamer, I prefer FPS on PC.
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"It's a really difficult thing to create something that is completely new, completely different and successful," Young says. "People continue to put their money down for categories that they know and love. I don't think you're going to suddenly stop liking racing games or stop liking shooters or stop liking adventure games. Most of the categories have already been covered so finding completely new categories that feel entirely fresh I think is very, very hard to do."
Innovation doesn't just include creating new genres. Redefining a genre or crossing two genres is innovation enough. Look at the state of the FPS prior to Half-Life and look at it afterwards.
We aren't asking you to cure cancer, we just want to see something new and refreshing. 600 different expansions of the Sims or $50 for new rosters is not innovative. Yes, innovation is risky but I'm pretty sure someone would have clubbed me for my cave years ago without it.
"Conservative decisions are not a bad thing when you're shepherding billions of dollars of shareholder value," Young points out. "What's important to shareholders is not the degree of conservatism but the degree of return. What's important is that you're growing the business year-on-year."
Blah, blah, blah. Management Speak for 'We just want money first and innovation second.' I can't blame them but at the same time, they could have been more sensitive about the issue.
"EA used to have an idea where they wanted you to have a 14-word motto for your game that would sum up in the public eye what your game was," Scandizzo says. "In fact, it became a big problem that we couldn't sum ours up quickly enough as a 14-word motto. I think the problem which some innovation has run into is it's really difficult to sum it up in 14 words."
Gamers aren't at the same level of thinking as management. Show us a concept and we don't need 14 words to define it. If it's intuitive, we can figure it out. If not, I tend to turn away. Perhaps this is more of an indication that the people in charge are seperated from their market. I'm just glad someone in the industry thinks EA has it wrong at a management level. It's not just the people but rigid thinking and policies.
Thank you. I am glad that there are others that get it.
Gameplay is essential and something that is lacking these days. Innovation will be key to developing better gameplay. But at the same time, Nintendo shouldn't just develop new gameplay at the cost of forgetting who made Nintendo who they were.
I don't have a lot of money to spend on all the consoles (plus my PC) and every game that comes out on all of them. I have to pick and choose what I think is the best option for me. I picked up the Gamecube in Spring 02 swayed by games like REmake, Zelda, and Metroid while still primarily playing PC games. So I don't own PS or MS consoles.
However, when hanging out with friends of mine in college, there were a lot of games on those systems I would spend hours playing. Looking at the GC selection versus genres I actually enjoyed, I felt there was a lack of games geared towards me. There were good games in those genres but they didn't appeal to me since they felt kiddy.
My ultimate question became: Where were games geared to me? I felt left behind by Nintendo.
I can only hope that Nintendo, in their quest to reinvent gaming, remembers who grew up playing their games and throws some games our way.
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Where do we draw the line on 'new generation of kids?' Because I'm turning on 22 and I don't really want to be thrown into their group. I grew up when the FPS genre was taking its first steps and I share your opinion too.
UAVs are fly by wire but also have limited AI control. AI isn't intelligent enough for missions that such things would fly.
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There is a design-build-fly competition, http://www.ae.uiuc.edu/aiaadbf/, that American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics puts on every year that has fluid objectives. As team meet objectives, the next year has more difficult objectives but until it happens, the objectives stand. It's pretty interesting but I don't have the time for it. I think DARPA is even involved but I really don't know enough on it. Perhaps someone else on
I don't disagree at all. But I would just like it to be optional so if I play through the game again (which I likely will do), I don't have to go through it again. I think it would just be a nice feature to add.
is shrinkage about the gaming industry as a whole or just the gaming industry by the big boys (EA, Vivendi, etc.)?
Well I suppose it depends on who jumps in the cold pool...
especially when more games don't even come with decent manuals any more
It seems to have become the industry standard to include a required tutorial area where players learn how to do things in the game whether or not they have played it before. Is it really that hard to sit down and read the instruction manual? I don't really care to learn how to play "Super Happy Fun Time Extreme 2006" again when I decide to play through it again. Making such an area optional would be less of a hassle for those of us that bother to read the manual or want to play it through again.
When it comes to PCs, we're really starting to get fed up with games that
You also forgot the part about not patching certain problems ever (KotOR's load bug - the bug sucks but it hardly taints an excellent game but it was the first I thought of) or causing more problems with every patch (RAVENSHIELD!!!!!!!). Eventually, customers just get pissed off when you either make the experience worse or just ignore it because you can't reproduce it.
Seriously, why should we pay for products that aren't exciting or don't completely work. It's funny how companies like Bioware are doing just fine. Perhaps they just know how to do it correctly.
Kind of offtopic but deals with business reply.
You can also fill the credit card envelopes with the daily coupons and send them back. I got a complaint about it once since it cost them money on the postage so I mailed them the postage too. Since thirty-seven cents is kind of heavy with seven nickels and two pennies, they probably had to pay extra postage.
An hour on the phone with Boll can leave you thinking that perhaps you were wrong after all, perhaps his movies - even those that cast Tara Reid as an archaeologist or tell the story of zombies hanging out at a rave - aren't that bad, just misunderstood.
"He's very personable, very honest," Carle said. "He's quick to laugh, he's a fun guy to hang out with."
Schramm, whose company distributed BloodRayne, said he was so charmed by Boll that he ended up putting some of his own money into promoting the film.
"He is so serious about making sure his investors are taken care of, that his actors are taken care of . . . he's more interested in that than anything at all," he said.
All of this just sounds like Boll is nothing more than a regular conman than anything else, except he doesn't run after taking your money. He just happens to be unsuccessful at it, like he is at making movies.
What's the difference in the two? I'm not a chem person.
Since I'm pretty much sold on my next-gen console choice, I could care less about the hype.
I primarily play PC games and I was pretty sure they make showings at E3. Where is their mention? 2005 was a lackluster year in PC gaming (generally) and hopefully 2006 will be better. But considering the market diversity, I could understand not mentioning it however, one would think they would touch on hot titles for the year.
Dragonage won best in show in 2004 and I've seen little since. Bioware has pretty much been saying it will be ready when it's ready but eventually people forget about it and move on. Two years is too long to just sit there and show nothing.
Hate to respond to "my" own post. But I suppose that's what I get for not locking my computer when I went to get free food at work.
Take me now.
I was under the impression that bar brawls were physical and considering the average /. reader, we would lose. Perhaps this should be the Internet equivalent of an angry debate.
It doesn't help that Americans generally are dumb on matters like this. Your insulation example for one. It just shows the greater problem of people not understanding what is going on.
That and Americans tend to think more now than down the road. $15k+ by not building an energy efficient house generally pays off since Americans constantly move around. However, suppose you stay put, you lose out big because you never bothered to think about energy efficiency.
It's mainly an American culture problem that I doubt will ever get corrected.
Perhaps this will allow for fan mods to be opened up again?
I know there were a few SG mods in development for HL2, etc.. but they were shut down with the SG-1 game being produced. What I don't know is any of the legal stuff involved with a fan mod besides the legal rights to the idea. Anyone know what's involved in greater detail?
Julia emailed me and said I could see all her black holes. But I felt uncomfortable and deleted it.
I've been buying older games like KotOR2 and Baldur's Gate Collection just because I know they are good games and yet still cheap at the same time. I snagged KotOR2 for $30 and BG for under $20. I know I have to wait a while for prices to drop so I'm not playing the game immediately but at the same time, I don't have as much time to play games these days.
But I whole-heartedly agree with the lack of compelling games. There really weren't any titles that made me say 'Wow' (pun not intended). I just haven't noticed as many interesting or compelling games in recent times. Perhaps I am just expecting more from the game companies than I previously used to. Or perhaps it's a sign there should be a gaming revolution where something like Half-Life/Baldur's Gate/others shake up the industry and redefines it.
I had the first one happen. Is having the first one a prerequisite for having the second one or are they independent? I also ran into a bug in NCAA 2005 where if my roommate tried to play Boise State (he was Rice), the game would freeze. But I also think that is a rare problem.
I usually snap judge people just to see if I can generally assess people on the whole. I started about 4 years ago when I started college just for kicks. I notably remember when I was right but I don't remember when I was wrong but I think I'm about 70%. It would be interesting to see figures on people judgements because like it or not, people judge each other immediately.
So France would surrender control of the search engine to Germany.
But how many of those are ported from PC or have been ported to PC? I don't have an X-Box but I spot names of PC games easily.
I know Doom3, Splinter Cells, R6-3, and some other popular shooters were ported onto X-Box. The Halos, Fable, and Kotor (X-box came first but the PC version was made PC friendly and had some changes so not a pure port) were ports.
Since I don't play racing games and I'm not a huge fighting fan (only love Soul Calibur), I would like to know what X-Box only games I should be excited about that I didn't mention.
"Red Faction gave Half-Life's a run for it's money." - Granted it should have after 2 years. But instead, it was a mediorce shooter with a cool, destroyable environment. The only interesting thing was the Geo-Mod environment.
It also considers Baldur's Gate a Diablo-esque game. Laugh. Dungeon Siege is Diablo-esque. D&D just isn't the same. But I doubt anyone that wrote the article bothered to think about that.
Final Fantasy ##. We must fellate this series to no end. VII was excellent with IX being just as good. XIII, X, and X-2 are jokes and insults to the FF series. Some people may find them redeeming but I don't (which is all that matters to me on game opinions).
I just don't think most consoles have 100 games you HAVE to play before you die. Besides they throw FFXI on there and still try to make it pass for Playstation when it's really pretty much a PC game. Sigh... lists like this are stupid.
Besides, to hell with them anyways. I'm content with my Gamecube. I may have only bought 15 games but I enjoy all of them. And being a PC gamer, I prefer FPS on PC.
Let's hope you might actually read the article.
Keep in mind that the screenshots from the survey are merely mock-ups and do not reflect how the final product will appear.Rohypnol, aka roofie
"It's a really difficult thing to create something that is completely new, completely different and successful," Young says. "People continue to put their money down for categories that they know and love. I don't think you're going to suddenly stop liking racing games or stop liking shooters or stop liking adventure games. Most of the categories have already been covered so finding completely new categories that feel entirely fresh I think is very, very hard to do."
Innovation doesn't just include creating new genres. Redefining a genre or crossing two genres is innovation enough. Look at the state of the FPS prior to Half-Life and look at it afterwards.
We aren't asking you to cure cancer, we just want to see something new and refreshing. 600 different expansions of the Sims or $50 for new rosters is not innovative. Yes, innovation is risky but I'm pretty sure someone would have clubbed me for my cave years ago without it.
"Conservative decisions are not a bad thing when you're shepherding billions of dollars of shareholder value," Young points out. "What's important to shareholders is not the degree of conservatism but the degree of return. What's important is that you're growing the business year-on-year."
Blah, blah, blah. Management Speak for 'We just want money first and innovation second.' I can't blame them but at the same time, they could have been more sensitive about the issue.
"EA used to have an idea where they wanted you to have a 14-word motto for your game that would sum up in the public eye what your game was," Scandizzo says. "In fact, it became a big problem that we couldn't sum ours up quickly enough as a 14-word motto. I think the problem which some innovation has run into is it's really difficult to sum it up in 14 words."
Gamers aren't at the same level of thinking as management. Show us a concept and we don't need 14 words to define it. If it's intuitive, we can figure it out. If not, I tend to turn away. Perhaps this is more of an indication that the people in charge are seperated from their market. I'm just glad someone in the industry thinks EA has it wrong at a management level. It's not just the people but rigid thinking and policies.
But what do I know, I don't work in the industry.Somehow I doubt 'Petition Against Non-Conformist Games' or 'Forty Year-old Lawyer Adventures' would attract a huge audiance.
Thank you. I am glad that there are others that get it.
Gameplay is essential and something that is lacking these days. Innovation will be key to developing better gameplay. But at the same time, Nintendo shouldn't just develop new gameplay at the cost of forgetting who made Nintendo who they were.
I don't have a lot of money to spend on all the consoles (plus my PC) and every game that comes out on all of them. I have to pick and choose what I think is the best option for me. I picked up the Gamecube in Spring 02 swayed by games like REmake, Zelda, and Metroid while still primarily playing PC games. So I don't own PS or MS consoles.
However, when hanging out with friends of mine in college, there were a lot of games on those systems I would spend hours playing. Looking at the GC selection versus genres I actually enjoyed, I felt there was a lack of games geared towards me. There were good games in those genres but they didn't appeal to me since they felt kiddy.
My ultimate question became: Where were games geared to me? I felt left behind by Nintendo.
I can only hope that Nintendo, in their quest to reinvent gaming, remembers who grew up playing their games and throws some games our way.