But it's only Fair Use that allows us (in the US) to make a copy of each of our own CDs, etc. Since child pornography is illegal, there is no fair use of child pornography. Every time a piece of child pornography is reproduced, that very act is a crime. The court rightly ruled that the act of reproduction includes transferring between media.
I doubt reproduction of the images would include unintentionally or unknowingly navigating to a website that includes an inappropriate image of a minor; the key difference is that doing so would be an accident - what this man did was intentionally (yes, for his own use, but still intentionally) reproduce a piece of child pornography.
I agree that it would be hard to accuse him of intent to distribute the images on the grounds that he made a single copy, but it does prove that he intentionally downloaded the images and planned to keep them. It rules out the possibility that he could have 'accidentally' downloaded the images. Plus, the very act of copying the illegal images is, even for personal use, illegal.
Copying illegally obtained music is also illegal, but the original piece of music was probably protected rather than condemned by the law.
There have been instances where police officers have been sent (by members of the public) pornographic images depicting minors as evidence of their existence in a certain case. This is technically distribution, and is treated very seriously.
This law is designed to protect the innocent. A minor cannot give consent to appear in pornography and is therefore a victim. Every time someone reproduces a pornographic image of a minor, its presence is more permanent and it becomes that extra bit harder to destroy every copy of the image, which is the ultimate goal. Regardless of whether he had photocopied, printed or simply copied the file containing the image, he reproduced it and thus added to the task of destroying it.
This does not affect your legally (under fair use) copied music.
What everyone seems to be ignoring here is that it's Fair Use that allows us (in the US) to make a copy of each of our own CDs, etc. Child pornography is illegal, there is no fair use of child pornography. There is no fair use for your illegally downloaded music, either, but the only thing burning music to a CD could make you is a pirate. (Argh, matey.)
To answer the poster's original question, the child pornography case in no way affects current laws that allow Americans to make a copy of their own music CD.
Dual core processors and system specs in general. A lot of consumers are intimidated by the many terms used on computer boxes. Rule of thumb is that higher numbers mean better, but things like dual core processors are exceptions.
My wife had bad experience with Thinkpads. I'm not saying that means Thinkpads are bad (although I will avoid them on the grounds that I'll never hear the last of it if it does go wrong... kidding!) but rather that any machine can go wrong.
Apple's strong point is their OS. I fell in love with their OS and I need Apple hardware to use it with support.
I think I'll go with a refurb, though. I've heard they're more reliable.
Most things are better than what I'm going through with my Toshiba Satellite Pro right now.
According to one recent survey posted on Slashdot, you just have some unlucky friends. I recommend choosing your friends more carefully next time -- ask around and check their reliability, see what others have to say about their faults and quirks. You may be able to trade these unlucky friends in for a super BestFriend; you'll get years out of one of those.
BTW, what generation were the notebooks? I ask because I'm thinking of getting a 12" PB for myself and want to know what I'm In For. I've already decided to get AppleCare, but (etc. etc.)
I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro A-10, bottom of the bunch, which I'm going to be replacing with a PowerBook. It's actually been a pretty hardy computer; after three years, my one major complaint with the hardware is that the hinges have broken within the last few months and the battery went the way of all PC battery laptops within a year. However, I'm not impressed with its design, much less with the company's service or atttitude toward me when I called about the hinge problem.
At first, I just thought the hinges needed tightening, which sounds simple enough. Trying to explain to a New Delhi CS agent what was going on and then when being told it's a problem with the case and not covered by a warranty, that was mildly annoying, but not unexpected, it affects most laptop warranties. Being told they wouldn't direct me to any information about the computer that I could use to tighten the hinges myself, that was a little questionable, I've had such information from HP and Gateway without having had to ask. What was really annoying, though, was that every minute in the conversation, the agent would announce that he was going to transfer me to someone who would find a Toshiba approved repair store in my area. That was all he cared about doing and explained the first two. His job wasn't to provide CS, it was to take CS calls and tell people they'd need to take their laptop to a shop and pay more money.
The design itself is a little awkward. I tried pulling the damn thing apart myself to tighten the hinges, but gave up after a couple of hours. The hinges are somewhere under my titanium-covered speakers. I can't get to them, can't do a thing with them. The battery sometimes slips out and clatters to the floor, which I'm not too worried about, it's practically deadweight, after all.
Anyway, I'm in the same boat as the first poster. I'm also fed up with Windows and Linux can't run the commercial apps I use (and no, GIMP is not functionally equivalent to Photoshop!) so a Mac notebook seems to be the way to go. I'm going to wait for the Intels and then see how cheap the G4 PowerBooks get. I'm not desparate yet, but a few other problems and a rattling hard disk and many electric shocks tell me my Toshiba's not long for this world.
My being fed up with Windows isn't a random annoyance. Probably my Toshiba-packaged installation is partly at fault, but I've had to perform system restores almost constantly. It's got to a stage where I have three partitions: one for Linux in case of emergencies, one for Windows, and one for all my work. I see the productivity and stability of my coworkers' macs and turn #00FF00
Toshiba's not a bad company, but I can't recommend their laptops anymore, and I used to swear by them, even by the bottom-rung "entry level" machines. In the meantime, I've been having very good experiences with AppleCare after some problems with my iPod (it's especially nice to be able to talk to someone who lives in this country and actually works for Apple).
I just love the headline. Tourists dissappointed. Pluto falls short of vacationer's expectations.
Man on Pluto: "It's cold."
"It's not what we expected," said Mrs. White, mother of four, "We thought it'd be much milder than this. We haven't been able to go out all holiday and the kids have been bored. It was either this or Disney and the kids were all excited to get to see Pluto. We didn't think it'd be like this."
Mr. White says he intends to pursue compensation from NASA and other astronomic research organizations for misrepresenting Pluto in tourist information.
"It's flagrant false advertising," said Mr. White, father of three.
If your list is exaustive, it shows that most veggies in US supermarkets are not GM.
The FSA list I directed you to is, to the best of my knowledge, up-to-date.
However, it does not show that most veggies in US supermarkets are not GM. Yes, there are many vegetables in the world, but those most common in our cooking are all mentioned on the FSA list (potato, rice, sweetcorn and especially tomato). Supermarkets stock many more of these than they do other vegetables. The only other vegetable we use as often which has not been affected is the onion. Therefore, subjectively (and you must understand my comment was an anecdote, not an objective statement), it's pretty hard to find non-GM foods here in the States.
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That you mention the FlavrSavr as an example that GM productc go off sooner is truly ironic and proves my point entirely...
I here quote your original comment:
They add one or two genes to add a particular trait like roundup resistance. That will not change ripening of the veggie."
Your "point" was based on the fallacy described above. You now accept this. Now again, notice my original comment:
I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life... When I bought the cheaper GM foods, I was surprised at how quickly they rotted, even in the fridge.
Notice that:
(a) I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life. This is a subjective statement: I haven't noticed. I was attacking the Flavr Savr, which, according to your earlier comment (above), doesn't exist as GM of foods "will not change ripening of the veggie".
(b) It was after I had bought the food that I noticed it rotted quickly. Shelf life extends beyond purchase date. It doesn't just mean "shelf in the supermarket life".
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And I am aware of the way the green religions people hijacked the trems biological and organic, thereby implying that anything that does not follow their dogma's is anorganic...
I suppose you also begrudge the "hijacking" of the word "green" to describe an attitude towards the environment as opposed to good old fashioned human-perceived color. I suppose you also begrudge the "hijacking" of the word "computer" to describe a device that performs math, thereby implying that anything that is not described as a computer does not perform math. I could go on...
If you have a problem with adoptive definitions in the English language, write to Merriam-Webster and Oxford University Press. If they contact you at all, it will be to tell you what I'm telling you: you're a genetically modified nut.
What fresh GM veggies can you buy in the supermarket?
It seems the geography presented in my comment has confused you. Notice that it is in the US I am buying GM foods. In the US, genetically modified food is widely available and accepted by consumers. Here is a list according to theFSA:
Cantaloupe
Radicchio
Tomato
Potato
Squash
Papaya
Sugar beet
Rice
Sweetcorn
They add one or two genes to add a particular trait like roundup resistance. That will not change ripening of the veggie... the plural of anecdote != data
The very first FSA approved GM food was the Flavr Savr tomato in 1994. Here is how one article describes the Flavr Savr tomato:
"Briefly, the Flavr Savr(TM) tomato is the result of the insertion of a single DNA sequence that interferes with the expression of a gene involved in fruit ripening."
Moe here.
The tomato was designed to last longer than regular tomatoes at room temperature. The incorrectness of your claim aside, it is entirely probable my experience shows, not that the Flavr Savr tomatoes don't last longer, but that grocers try to take too much advantage of the Flavr Savr.
Nerry, this is a curse The Lord have putteth forth upon ye faithless scientists who have Molested the Nature's fine balance. Repent! Repent!
"I've learned my lesson: a mountain of sugar is too much for one man. It's clear now why God portions it out in those tiny packets, and why he lives of a plantation in Hawaii." - Homer (Ep.105, "Lisa's Rival")
Looks interesting, thanks for the tip! Living in apartments, this could be just our ticket. I would be a little worried for our landlord's reaction when he sees a couple of high intensity grow lamps and a drip feed sitting in the corner...
A good scientist understands that the progress of humanity came from self-reliance and cooperation for profit, not from doing what is good for man.
You're talking to a biologist, not a sociologist. A "good scientist" is someone who applies scientific methods. Sociology is a science, it is not all science.
I find it amazing that you believe there is little or no link between GM crops and this new superweed, but you believe there is a connection between the steady cost of food and GM crops. The latter is more a coincidence than the former.
It's not just "greenies", Europeans are wary of GM foods (especially in England, where there have already been too many food and meat scares in the last few decades). GM foods are closely regulared by the EU.
Farmers in China who grow GM crops were shown to use fewer insecticides and are living healthier lives for it, but I'm not sure where you're getting the bit about starving people from, I haven't heard of that happening. As you said, those people aren't starving for lack of food in the world (and I've never heard the "greenie" argument that there is not enough food, only that food distribution is poor -- this is called a humanitarian issue, not an environmentalist one).
It's pretty hard to find non-GM foods here in the US. I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life, either. In England, I bought all-organic for the same reason as your better half, but it's far too expensive to do that out here (in the States). When I bought the cheaper GM foods, I was surprised at how quickly they rotted, even in the fridge.
You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't: truly organic food (insecticide free) is too expensive and time consuming for us, insecticides make my wife sick (she grew up in a farming community and was thus exposed to too many nasty chemicals), and GM foods are just plain rotten.
I'm a little worried to use this as a replacement for my Amstrad PPC. Yes, I want something portable, but not so small and light I could lose it down the back of the couch!
The spammer was the cause of the problem, whereas your ISP and mail service provider probably take an active role in preventing spam (from being either received or sent by you).
If you can find a lawyer who'll agree to take a shot at it, I'd much rather you sued the ultimate source of the spam rather than your ISP (even if that ISP is AOL. Well, maybe...)
Oh, and I'm not sure when civil justice became a 'wrong'.
You have indeed, and I think that was the whole idea. This was a smart kid, he realized and harnessed the draw of the novelty site. This is a site people visit because it's a novelty and that companies sponsor because people visit. Now that's clever.
Slashdot Mirror
But it's only Fair Use that allows us (in the US) to make a copy of each of our own CDs, etc. Since child pornography is illegal, there is no fair use of child pornography. Every time a piece of child pornography is reproduced, that very act is a crime. The court rightly ruled that the act of reproduction includes transferring between media.
I doubt reproduction of the images would include unintentionally or unknowingly navigating to a website that includes an inappropriate image of a minor; the key difference is that doing so would be an accident - what this man did was intentionally (yes, for his own use, but still intentionally) reproduce a piece of child pornography.
I agree that it would be hard to accuse him of intent to distribute the images on the grounds that he made a single copy, but it does prove that he intentionally downloaded the images and planned to keep them. It rules out the possibility that he could have 'accidentally' downloaded the images. Plus, the very act of copying the illegal images is, even for personal use, illegal.
Copying illegally obtained music is also illegal, but the original piece of music was probably protected rather than condemned by the law.
There have been instances where police officers have been sent (by members of the public) pornographic images depicting minors as evidence of their existence in a certain case. This is technically distribution, and is treated very seriously.
This law is designed to protect the innocent. A minor cannot give consent to appear in pornography and is therefore a victim. Every time someone reproduces a pornographic image of a minor, its presence is more permanent and it becomes that extra bit harder to destroy every copy of the image, which is the ultimate goal. Regardless of whether he had photocopied, printed or simply copied the file containing the image, he reproduced it and thus added to the task of destroying it.
This does not affect your legally (under fair use) copied music.
What everyone seems to be ignoring here is that it's Fair Use that allows us (in the US) to make a copy of each of our own CDs, etc. Child pornography is illegal, there is no fair use of child pornography. There is no fair use for your illegally downloaded music, either, but the only thing burning music to a CD could make you is a pirate. (Argh, matey.)
To answer the poster's original question, the child pornography case in no way affects current laws that allow Americans to make a copy of their own music CD.
Dual core processors and system specs in general. A lot of consumers are intimidated by the many terms used on computer boxes. Rule of thumb is that higher numbers mean better, but things like dual core processors are exceptions.
Pu-lease, Miscrosoft did away with the term "blue screen" by introducing the Windows XP color scheme. Now Windows has only one screen, and it's blue.
Actually, if you read carefully, there's a disclaimer: MSN is committed to ensuring that products and services comply with global and local laws*...
* Except in Europe
And buy a refurb. Yes, that's right, buy a refurb. Refurbs actually get tested before they're shipped!
My wife had bad experience with Thinkpads. I'm not saying that means Thinkpads are bad (although I will avoid them on the grounds that I'll never hear the last of it if it does go wrong... kidding!) but rather that any machine can go wrong.
Apple's strong point is their OS. I fell in love with their OS and I need Apple hardware to use it with support.
I think I'll go with a refurb, though. I've heard they're more reliable.
Most things are better than what I'm going through with my Toshiba Satellite Pro right now.
According to one recent survey posted on Slashdot, you just have some unlucky friends. I recommend choosing your friends more carefully next time -- ask around and check their reliability, see what others have to say about their faults and quirks. You may be able to trade these unlucky friends in for a super BestFriend; you'll get years out of one of those.
BTW, what generation were the notebooks? I ask because I'm thinking of getting a 12" PB for myself and want to know what I'm In For. I've already decided to get AppleCare, but (etc. etc.)
I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro A-10, bottom of the bunch, which I'm going to be replacing with a PowerBook. It's actually been a pretty hardy computer; after three years, my one major complaint with the hardware is that the hinges have broken within the last few months and the battery went the way of all PC battery laptops within a year. However, I'm not impressed with its design, much less with the company's service or atttitude toward me when I called about the hinge problem.
At first, I just thought the hinges needed tightening, which sounds simple enough. Trying to explain to a New Delhi CS agent what was going on and then when being told it's a problem with the case and not covered by a warranty, that was mildly annoying, but not unexpected, it affects most laptop warranties. Being told they wouldn't direct me to any information about the computer that I could use to tighten the hinges myself, that was a little questionable, I've had such information from HP and Gateway without having had to ask. What was really annoying, though, was that every minute in the conversation, the agent would announce that he was going to transfer me to someone who would find a Toshiba approved repair store in my area. That was all he cared about doing and explained the first two. His job wasn't to provide CS, it was to take CS calls and tell people they'd need to take their laptop to a shop and pay more money.
The design itself is a little awkward. I tried pulling the damn thing apart myself to tighten the hinges, but gave up after a couple of hours. The hinges are somewhere under my titanium-covered speakers. I can't get to them, can't do a thing with them. The battery sometimes slips out and clatters to the floor, which I'm not too worried about, it's practically deadweight, after all.
Anyway, I'm in the same boat as the first poster. I'm also fed up with Windows and Linux can't run the commercial apps I use (and no, GIMP is not functionally equivalent to Photoshop!) so a Mac notebook seems to be the way to go. I'm going to wait for the Intels and then see how cheap the G4 PowerBooks get. I'm not desparate yet, but a few other problems and a rattling hard disk and many electric shocks tell me my Toshiba's not long for this world.
My being fed up with Windows isn't a random annoyance. Probably my Toshiba-packaged installation is partly at fault, but I've had to perform system restores almost constantly. It's got to a stage where I have three partitions: one for Linux in case of emergencies, one for Windows, and one for all my work. I see the productivity and stability of my coworkers' macs and turn #00FF00
Toshiba's not a bad company, but I can't recommend their laptops anymore, and I used to swear by them, even by the bottom-rung "entry level" machines. In the meantime, I've been having very good experiences with AppleCare after some problems with my iPod (it's especially nice to be able to talk to someone who lives in this country and actually works for Apple).
Also, it will be made of candy.
I just love the headline. Tourists dissappointed. Pluto falls short of vacationer's expectations.
Man on Pluto: "It's cold."
"It's not what we expected," said Mrs. White, mother of four, "We thought it'd be much milder than this. We haven't been able to go out all holiday and the kids have been bored. It was either this or Disney and the kids were all excited to get to see Pluto. We didn't think it'd be like this."
Mr. White says he intends to pursue compensation from NASA and other astronomic research organizations for misrepresenting Pluto in tourist information.
"It's flagrant false advertising," said Mr. White, father of three.
Isn't that 5 buttons? I haven't tried one out, but I believe the nipple ball also acts as a button?
If your list is exaustive, it shows that most veggies in US supermarkets are not GM.
..
... When I bought the cheaper GM foods, I was surprised at how quickly they rotted, even in the fridge.
..
The FSA list I directed you to is, to the best of my knowledge, up-to-date.
However, it does not show that most veggies in US supermarkets are not GM. Yes, there are many vegetables in the world, but those most common in our cooking are all mentioned on the FSA list (potato, rice, sweetcorn and especially tomato). Supermarkets stock many more of these than they do other vegetables. The only other vegetable we use as often which has not been affected is the onion. Therefore, subjectively (and you must understand my comment was an anecdote, not an objective statement), it's pretty hard to find non-GM foods here in the States.
That you mention the FlavrSavr as an example that GM productc go off sooner is truly ironic and proves my point entirely...
I here quote your original comment:
They add one or two genes to add a particular trait like roundup resistance. That will not change ripening of the veggie."
Your "point" was based on the fallacy described above. You now accept this. Now again, notice my original comment:
I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life
Notice that:
(a) I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life. This is a subjective statement: I haven't noticed. I was attacking the Flavr Savr, which, according to your earlier comment (above), doesn't exist as GM of foods "will not change ripening of the veggie".
(b) It was after I had bought the food that I noticed it rotted quickly. Shelf life extends beyond purchase date. It doesn't just mean "shelf in the supermarket life".
And I am aware of the way the green religions people hijacked the trems biological and organic, thereby implying that anything that does not follow their dogma's is anorganic...
I suppose you also begrudge the "hijacking" of the word "green" to describe an attitude towards the environment as opposed to good old fashioned human-perceived color. I suppose you also begrudge the "hijacking" of the word "computer" to describe a device that performs math, thereby implying that anything that is not described as a computer does not perform math. I could go on...
If you have a problem with adoptive definitions in the English language, write to Merriam-Webster and Oxford University Press. If they contact you at all, it will be to tell you what I'm telling you: you're a genetically modified nut.
What fresh GM veggies can you buy in the supermarket?
...ever seen vegetables that were anorganic?>
Again, you are confused. Here is a Wikipedia article about Organic food and a definition of the term.
It seems the geography presented in my comment has confused you. Notice that it is in the US I am buying GM foods. In the US, genetically modified food is widely available and accepted by consumers. Here is a list according to theFSA:
Cantaloupe
Radicchio
Tomato
Potato
Squash
Papaya
Sugar beet
Rice
Sweetcorn
They add one or two genes to add a particular trait like roundup resistance. That will not change ripening of the veggie... the plural of anecdote != data
The very first FSA approved GM food was the Flavr Savr tomato in 1994. Here is how one article describes the Flavr Savr tomato:
"Briefly, the Flavr Savr(TM) tomato is the result of the insertion of a single DNA sequence that interferes with the expression of a gene involved in fruit ripening."
Moe here.
The tomato was designed to last longer than regular tomatoes at room temperature. The incorrectness of your claim aside, it is entirely probable my experience shows, not that the Flavr Savr tomatoes don't last longer, but that grocers try to take too much advantage of the Flavr Savr.
Nerry, this is a curse The Lord have putteth forth upon ye faithless scientists who have Molested the Nature's fine balance. Repent! Repent!
"I've learned my lesson: a mountain of sugar is too much for one man. It's clear now why God portions it out in those tiny packets, and why he lives of a plantation in Hawaii."
- Homer (Ep.105, "Lisa's Rival")
Looks interesting, thanks for the tip! Living in apartments, this could be just our ticket. I would be a little worried for our landlord's reaction when he sees a couple of high intensity grow lamps and a drip feed sitting in the corner...
A good scientist understands that the progress of humanity came from self-reliance and cooperation for profit, not from doing what is good for man.
You're talking to a biologist, not a sociologist. A "good scientist" is someone who applies scientific methods. Sociology is a science, it is not all science.
I find it amazing that you believe there is little or no link between GM crops and this new superweed, but you believe there is a connection between the steady cost of food and GM crops. The latter is more a coincidence than the former.
It's not just "greenies", Europeans are wary of GM foods (especially in England, where there have already been too many food and meat scares in the last few decades). GM foods are closely regulared by the EU.
Farmers in China who grow GM crops were shown to use fewer insecticides and are living healthier lives for it, but I'm not sure where you're getting the bit about starving people from, I haven't heard of that happening. As you said, those people aren't starving for lack of food in the world (and I've never heard the "greenie" argument that there is not enough food, only that food distribution is poor -- this is called a humanitarian issue, not an environmentalist one).
It's pretty hard to find non-GM foods here in the US. I haven't noticed any difference for the better in their shelf life, either. In England, I bought all-organic for the same reason as your better half, but it's far too expensive to do that out here (in the States). When I bought the cheaper GM foods, I was surprised at how quickly they rotted, even in the fridge.
You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't: truly organic food (insecticide free) is too expensive and time consuming for us, insecticides make my wife sick (she grew up in a farming community and was thus exposed to too many nasty chemicals), and GM foods are just plain rotten.
Stick to Soylent Greenies.
I'm a little worried to use this as a replacement for my Amstrad PPC. Yes, I want something portable, but not so small and light I could lose it down the back of the couch!
No, it won't.
The spammer was the cause of the problem, whereas your ISP and mail service provider probably take an active role in preventing spam (from being either received or sent by you).
If you can find a lawyer who'll agree to take a shot at it, I'd much rather you sued the ultimate source of the spam rather than your ISP (even if that ISP is AOL. Well, maybe...)
Oh, and I'm not sure when civil justice became a 'wrong'.
People intelligence is the best kind.
I'll give you PR.
I think the minimum purchase is $100 (10x10 px)
I think I'll wait for Reuters to verify your claim.
You have indeed, and I think that was the whole idea. This was a smart kid, he realized and harnessed the draw of the novelty site. This is a site people visit because it's a novelty and that companies sponsor because people visit. Now that's clever.