You can always right click on the start screen and select "All Programs" and you can launch just about anything. Alternatively, just start typing a few characters of it's name and it'll pop up. Works great.
As for why you would upgrade for something that looks the same, I would say upgrading your OS so it looks pretty/better is a poor reason to upgrade. You can get skins for most of that on any OS. Heck you could probably write a skin for Windows 3.1 to look like Windows 7/8 if you wanted. The reason you upgrade is for better hardware support, better performance, better security, more productivity. All of which Windows 8 has over Windows 7. Not that Windows 7 was bad, because it wasn't. It was great. Windows 8 just builds on top of it and adds some really nice things.
You don't see it as being workable only because there is a lot of hype about nothing. For the vast majority of people who actually use it, there is very little difference other than it being faster, using less resources, and using better the resources it does use. Oh, AND you can run metro applications if you want to. I don't have any metro applications really installed at home other than a few freebie games and I do all my work on the desktop that looks EXACTLY the same, except without Aero (see through glass effects), and I have slightly more room on the taskbar because the circle at the bottom left has been removed.
Ways of shutting down a PC: Hitting ALT-F4 on the desktop -- Still works. Hit Control-ALT-Delete then choosing shutdown -- Still works. Hit the power button on the front of the PC (Not hold, just hit) -- Still works (If it was configured that way).
And of course the way that pcworld describes as well is a new way.
No fortune 100 company is sticking with XP in any major way. Maybe your wifes department is for some odd reason, but I suspect the rest of the company is not following suit. There is even fortune 100 companies that have Windows 3.1 running somewhere for some reason, but claiming they stuck with it is foolish.
There is no start menu. There is the metro page, but that is hardly the same thing.
I guess that is a matter of opinion. They perform the same functions, activated with similar (or the same) methods. Of course the start menu isn't live, has limited area to pin applications, is forced to being in a single list rather than multiple categorized lists/groups, and eats up task bar space that could be used for better things.
A start menu would mean...
No it doesn't. A start menu would mean a menu that allows you to start applications. No more than that. Are you trying to say that if the start menu in Windows had a start button, and when you clicked it that it took you automatically to the Windows XP style "All Programs" that covered your entire screen that it would no longer be a start menu? Do you realize how silly that sounds because that is the way it started in XP.
without losing site of the word document that might actually contain the credentials I need to enter into the other program.
You do realize that after you click on the program to start, it will start on the desktop, just like it would have if you launched it from Windows 7, right? Are you somehow typing credentials into a program before launching it, like Run As or something odd?
Does it have a taskbar readily available at the bottom or side of the screen at all times?
Technically the answer is no, however, that said, you won't miss it. Once you boot, and click to go to the desktop, you never have to leave the desktop if all you applications are pinned to the task bar like you have in Windows 7. The only time you'll not have one is if you go back to the start screen to launch an application that isn't pinned to the task bar, and in that respect it comes more like a full screen start menu, which IMHO, works better than the start menu in XP-Windows 7 ever did.
Anyone that isn't the IRS has no need for your SSN. That's according the Federal Government, you can look it up.
That depends on your definition of need. Strictly speaking, the federal government doesn't NEED it either. They want it because it makes it easier for identification. They could use a number of other things if they wanted. However, the part of according to the federal government, it is perfectly fine to use SSN as identification. Up until the mid-70's it was printed one very SS card that the number was not to be used for identification, however, in the mid 70's, even the federal government backed down from that and had it removed.
2 mins worth of online research is enough to have proven you wrong on most counts. As for SSN not being unique, it's unique for all living people. SSNs do get reused after someone dies, but that typically isn't a problem in most instances. Yes, some people are giving out a number that THEY were not assigned, either through error, bad memory, or fraud. That just proves that a single (10 digit) number is not good way authenticate people. People can also lie about their names, dates of birth, location of birth, age, hell -- even gender.
I like how people who talk shit and know very little post as AC. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
Human is, by default, lazy and will, given the chance, waste his life in front of daytime TV.
Some humans are lazy and will, given the chance, waste his life in front of daytime TV.
Fixed that for you.
Not all of us are. Some of us found what we enjoy, and do it even when not being paid for it. Of course, I would prefer that I had enough funds to do exactly what I want, when I want, but I can guarantee you that I would NOT be sitting in front of the TV.
Surely we'll have robot code monkeys at some point down the line
Maybe, but programming has been heading that way for a very long time. I don't know many programmers today that still have to write things like a queue or stack. Programmers build upon what previous programmers have done by utilizing libraries of code.
I didn't cry and scream when assembler was mostly phased out for higher level languages like C. Nor did I scream when C was phased out for higher level languages like C++, C#, and Java. I just learned the new languages, new frameworks, and new toolkits. Some things that used to take a whole team of programmers years to do, can now be done by an individual or two in months (or less, depending). Some programmers who didn't/couldn't/wouldn't adapt lost their jobs and switched to a different field. I don't see this changing any time soon.
At some point the lack of tax money paid by these displaced private sector workers is going to hit the pocket books of government wanted to spend on the public related sector.
Umm...No. That isn't the way it works. If a company becomes more profitable, say removing the x number of dollars that would have been given to workers, and instead turns into company profit instead, government taxes would be increased as the corporations would have been taxed on the profit, and then taxed again at a higher rate as the owners receive the money (Who are quite likely making more money than the floor workers, and are in a higher tax bracket).
Of course that assumes the profits aren't hidden or shifted to another country first.
In all of my commuting around that area, I've yet to see any construction zone actually have any workers.
It's not only in Baltimore. We have that here in Chicago too. Seems like some roads have been under construction for 8 months now, and I think I've seen them being worked on twice. It's just sad that they get away with this crap.
If we realy cared about the safety of drivers on the road then speeding violations should be delt with using some kind of points system that will eventualy suspend your licence for a while.
Not sure where you come from, but they do in Illinois. Each speeding ticket is 1 point, unless it's over 25mph over the speed limit (used to be 35), then it's an automatic misdemeanor instead of a traffic citation. Additionally, if you get 3 tickets in any 12 month rolling period, your license is suspended, the duration of which is decided by how much you were speeding.
The United States hasn't had that pivotal moment yet where it simply, unquestionably, lost. Failed. Beaten. Destroyed.
It is quite strange that you try to preach to others about history, when you don't even know it your self. Perhaps google can enlighten you if your school has failed you.
Or perhaps you were only talking about history within the last generation?
Further research indicates that 3 comprehensive studies were made regarding the internet and it's effect on jobs that I can find. The latest of which I believe was in 2007, which used data from 2005 I think (the values they quoted for Amazon, and Google were about 1/3rd of what the are today). In any case, those were based on information gathered from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics which breaks down where all the jobs are. From analyzing that, they determined the 1.2 Million direct jobs were created from the internet and an additional 1.98 million indirect jobs were created (support staff, like construction of datacenters, etc) for a total of over 3 million jobs created.
Other sectors lost ~500k jobs, of which the majority are from the USPS (Currently down ~200k from their peak, and now back to 1968 levels). I didn't look further into the breakdown, but you can query all the data yourself at http://www.bls.gov/
And if you don't feel like reading it, or it's behind a paywall, here's the part you want:
In "mature" countries--which excludes India, China, Brazil and Russia--the Internet accounts for 21 percent growth. Though it has eliminated 500,000 jobs, it has created 1.2 million new jobs, meaning that 2.4 jobs were created for each job lost.
That is your opinion, not based on fact. And I don't care enough to go look up the hard statistics to show you just how wrong you are. Do yourself a favor and look them up yourself. It's not hard to find.
By the way, customer service centers were being offshored before the Internet. Not that those jobs (the majority) would be considered middle class anyway.
What goes around... comes around. Let the Chinese and the Chinese government do all the R&D to stay competitive in the market and after they've suck billions into it, then let's reverse engineer it and make it here on the cheap.
No, they usually just screamed that their specialty went away, not that automation/inventions will put everyone out of business. (Sure, there are exceptions.)
No, they usually screamed just about everything including the country is about to fail.
As for what industries the Internet created? How about amazon? Netflix? VoIP? The cloud? Fiber deployments? AT&T uverse? eBay? PayPal? Smartphones? Online gaming? Online dating? Data centers? The open source movement? Web browsers? Web servers? Google? Zillow? Electronic medical/dental claims clearinghouses like webmd? Wikipedia? Large scale caching systems like Akamai?
I could probably continue for another 50-60, but you get the point.
Now, as for manufacturing automation, if it rolls out like every other automation I've seen, it will roll about at about the same rate as employee attrition happens. The remaining few employees that are left are retrained to handle the exceptions, monitor the robots, or promoted. Very very few will actually be displaced, and they will quickly be picked up by a competitor as they are already experienced. This cycle will continue for the next 20-40 years.
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You can always right click on the start screen and select "All Programs" and you can launch just about anything. Alternatively, just start typing a few characters of it's name and it'll pop up. Works great.
As for why you would upgrade for something that looks the same, I would say upgrading your OS so it looks pretty/better is a poor reason to upgrade. You can get skins for most of that on any OS. Heck you could probably write a skin for Windows 3.1 to look like Windows 7/8 if you wanted. The reason you upgrade is for better hardware support, better performance, better security, more productivity. All of which Windows 8 has over Windows 7. Not that Windows 7 was bad, because it wasn't. It was great. Windows 8 just builds on top of it and adds some really nice things.
You don't see it as being workable only because there is a lot of hype about nothing. For the vast majority of people who actually use it, there is very little difference other than it being faster, using less resources, and using better the resources it does use. Oh, AND you can run metro applications if you want to. I don't have any metro applications really installed at home other than a few freebie games and I do all my work on the desktop that looks EXACTLY the same, except without Aero (see through glass effects), and I have slightly more room on the taskbar because the circle at the bottom left has been removed.
Ways of shutting down a PC:
Hitting ALT-F4 on the desktop -- Still works.
Hit Control-ALT-Delete then choosing shutdown -- Still works.
Hit the power button on the front of the PC (Not hold, just hit) -- Still works (If it was configured that way).
And of course the way that pcworld describes as well is a new way.
No fortune 100 company is sticking with XP in any major way. Maybe your wifes department is for some odd reason, but I suspect the rest of the company is not following suit. There is even fortune 100 companies that have Windows 3.1 running somewhere for some reason, but claiming they stuck with it is foolish.
There is no start menu. There is the metro page, but that is hardly the same thing.
I guess that is a matter of opinion. They perform the same functions, activated with similar (or the same) methods. Of course the start menu isn't live, has limited area to pin applications, is forced to being in a single list rather than multiple categorized lists/groups, and eats up task bar space that could be used for better things.
A start menu would mean...
No it doesn't. A start menu would mean a menu that allows you to start applications. No more than that. Are you trying to say that if the start menu in Windows had a start button, and when you clicked it that it took you automatically to the Windows XP style "All Programs" that covered your entire screen that it would no longer be a start menu? Do you realize how silly that sounds because that is the way it started in XP.
without losing site of the word document that might actually contain the credentials I need to enter into the other program.
You do realize that after you click on the program to start, it will start on the desktop, just like it would have if you launched it from Windows 7, right? Are you somehow typing credentials into a program before launching it, like Run As or something odd?
Does it have a taskbar readily available at the bottom or side of the screen at all times?
Technically the answer is no, however, that said, you won't miss it. Once you boot, and click to go to the desktop, you never have to leave the desktop if all you applications are pinned to the task bar like you have in Windows 7. The only time you'll not have one is if you go back to the start screen to launch an application that isn't pinned to the task bar, and in that respect it comes more like a full screen start menu, which IMHO, works better than the start menu in XP-Windows 7 ever did.
Anyone that isn't the IRS has no need for your SSN. That's according the Federal Government, you can look it up.
That depends on your definition of need. Strictly speaking, the federal government doesn't NEED it either. They want it because it makes it easier for identification. They could use a number of other things if they wanted. However, the part of according to the federal government, it is perfectly fine to use SSN as identification. Up until the mid-70's it was printed one very SS card that the number was not to be used for identification, however, in the mid 70's, even the federal government backed down from that and had it removed.
2 mins worth of online research is enough to have proven you wrong on most counts. As for SSN not being unique, it's unique for all living people. SSNs do get reused after someone dies, but that typically isn't a problem in most instances. Yes, some people are giving out a number that THEY were not assigned, either through error, bad memory, or fraud. That just proves that a single (10 digit) number is not good way authenticate people. People can also lie about their names, dates of birth, location of birth, age, hell -- even gender.
I like how people who talk shit and know very little post as AC. Stand behind what you say or don't say it.
Maybe, or maybe the guy that caused the project's costs to get overrun will answer to someone why he let it happen.
Human is, by default, lazy and will, given the chance, waste his life in front of daytime TV.
Some humans are lazy and will, given the chance, waste his life in front of daytime TV.
Fixed that for you.
Not all of us are. Some of us found what we enjoy, and do it even when not being paid for it. Of course, I would prefer that I had enough funds to do exactly what I want, when I want, but I can guarantee you that I would NOT be sitting in front of the TV.
Surely we'll have robot code monkeys at some point down the line
Maybe, but programming has been heading that way for a very long time. I don't know many programmers today that still have to write things like a queue or stack. Programmers build upon what previous programmers have done by utilizing libraries of code.
I didn't cry and scream when assembler was mostly phased out for higher level languages like C. Nor did I scream when C was phased out for higher level languages like C++, C#, and Java. I just learned the new languages, new frameworks, and new toolkits. Some things that used to take a whole team of programmers years to do, can now be done by an individual or two in months (or less, depending). Some programmers who didn't/couldn't/wouldn't adapt lost their jobs and switched to a different field. I don't see this changing any time soon.
Using machines doesn't make the prices go down, they make the company's profits go up.
Until you get a bunch of out of work people get together to make a plant that does the exact same thing for less.
And I suppose modern "assembly line workers" are/will be called automation maintenance, or more likely automation engineers, or process specialists.
At some point the lack of tax money paid by these displaced private sector workers is going to hit the pocket books of government wanted to spend on the public related sector.
Umm...No. That isn't the way it works. If a company becomes more profitable, say removing the x number of dollars that would have been given to workers, and instead turns into company profit instead, government taxes would be increased as the corporations would have been taxed on the profit, and then taxed again at a higher rate as the owners receive the money (Who are quite likely making more money than the floor workers, and are in a higher tax bracket).
Of course that assumes the profits aren't hidden or shifted to another country first.
Not all airlines charge money for inflight WiFi.
In all of my commuting around that area, I've yet to see any construction zone actually have any workers.
It's not only in Baltimore. We have that here in Chicago too. Seems like some roads have been under construction for 8 months now, and I think I've seen them being worked on twice. It's just sad that they get away with this crap.
If we realy cared about the safety of drivers on the road then speeding violations should be delt with using some kind of points system that will eventualy suspend your licence for a while.
Not sure where you come from, but they do in Illinois. Each speeding ticket is 1 point, unless it's over 25mph over the speed limit (used to be 35), then it's an automatic misdemeanor instead of a traffic citation. Additionally, if you get 3 tickets in any 12 month rolling period, your license is suspended, the duration of which is decided by how much you were speeding.
The United States hasn't had that pivotal moment yet where it simply, unquestionably, lost. Failed. Beaten. Destroyed.
It is quite strange that you try to preach to others about history, when you don't even know it your self. Perhaps google can enlighten you if your school has failed you.
Or perhaps you were only talking about history within the last generation?
ON TV stuck somewhere between channels 43 & 44.
Wow, that modem is old, must have been a prototype because all the released ones ran at 110bps.
On the other hand, some attorneys will become wealthy from the fact that this sort of income profiling is inherently racist.
WTF?
Further research indicates that 3 comprehensive studies were made regarding the internet and it's effect on jobs that I can find. The latest of which I believe was in 2007, which used data from 2005 I think (the values they quoted for Amazon, and Google were about 1/3rd of what the are today). In any case, those were based on information gathered from the US Bureau of Labor Statistics which breaks down where all the jobs are. From analyzing that, they determined the 1.2 Million direct jobs were created from the internet and an additional 1.98 million indirect jobs were created (support staff, like construction of datacenters, etc) for a total of over 3 million jobs created.
Other sectors lost ~500k jobs, of which the majority are from the USPS (Currently down ~200k from their peak, and now back to 1968 levels). I didn't look further into the breakdown, but you can query all the data yourself at http://www.bls.gov/
I'm feeling nice today. Here ya go: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/internet-industrial-revolution-gdp-mckinsey-study_n_866167.html
Here is a second: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134231/Study_Internet_economy_has_created_1.2M_jobs
And if you don't feel like reading it, or it's behind a paywall, here's the part you want:
In "mature" countries--which excludes India, China, Brazil and Russia--the Internet accounts for 21 percent growth. Though it has eliminated 500,000 jobs, it has created 1.2 million new jobs, meaning that 2.4 jobs were created for each job lost.
That is your opinion, not based on fact. And I don't care enough to go look up the hard statistics to show you just how wrong you are. Do yourself a favor and look them up yourself. It's not hard to find.
By the way, customer service centers were being offshored before the Internet. Not that those jobs (the majority) would be considered middle class anyway.
What goes around... comes around. Let the Chinese and the Chinese government do all the R&D to stay competitive in the market and after they've suck billions into it, then let's reverse engineer it and make it here on the cheap.
Works both ways.
No, they usually just screamed that their specialty went away, not that automation/inventions will put everyone out of business. (Sure, there are exceptions.)
No, they usually screamed just about everything including the country is about to fail.
As for what industries the Internet created? How about amazon? Netflix? VoIP? The cloud? Fiber deployments? AT&T uverse? eBay? PayPal? Smartphones? Online gaming? Online dating? Data centers? The open source movement? Web browsers? Web servers? Google? Zillow? Electronic medical/dental claims clearinghouses like webmd? Wikipedia? Large scale caching systems like Akamai?
I could probably continue for another 50-60, but you get the point.
Now, as for manufacturing automation, if it rolls out like every other automation I've seen, it will roll about at about the same rate as employee attrition happens. The remaining few employees that are left are retrained to handle the exceptions, monitor the robots, or promoted. Very very few will actually be displaced, and they will quickly be picked up by a competitor as they are already experienced. This cycle will continue for the next 20-40 years.