Laptops is the answer. Hell my laptop runs linux and has two licenses for XP. One from Dell and the other the Corp license. I don't run XP at all in any form.
Too many people here think there's just something "evil" about big corporations in general. They're not evil as such. The reason they act as they do is all about making money. They'll try and get away with whatever they can to make money until they're told they can't (the same way certain dictators will try things on until threatened with force).
Your quote illustrates one defination of evil, in fact the most popular one until the late 20th Century.
The love of money above all else is evil. The popular corporate myth that it is a duty to one's investors to prioritize money making above all other responsibilities is the root of this.
The cancer is unoperable(sp?) but legislation and regulation like radiation can prevent the spread.
DTV tivo style is more like 1.5 Mbps. Most of the cable companies deploying VOD this year are using 3.75 Mbps as their max bw/movie.
PVR from the server side is completely possible. I have worked on functional demos of PVR over your typical cable plant. We were using real-time encoders to take analog cable inputs and put it on the server (typical VOD system for cable, lets not name names). The clients would pick the program and could perform all the standard VCR-like controls. Obviously they could only FF to the boundry between live and encoded content.
It is not that hard. More work needs to be done with the guide vendors such as TVGuide to integrate with their product.
Cable infrastructure is ready in the Metro areas. Some rural areas are also ready since they tend to used as test sites for this kind of technology.
I cry BS. Your previous post claimed that performance was not a reason and yet I don't believe you. Wake up and stop acting as the HW vendors lobbyist.
Our setup here is such that the boxes are locked down but we have standard form and procedure to get admin rights on any box given justification. I don't know a local developer who doesn't have root on their box.
Support is limited to standard apps and reinstall is by re-image. We develop to a non-pc platform and so developers have a workstation either on their desk or they use one of the shared workstations.
Linux is tolerated but unsupported. I and a number of other support the linux users as peers. We help out with printing, NIS, NFS and other issues like burning CDs. Interestingly enough our boxes are heavily used by coworkers for burning cds from the nfs shares, analyzing mpeg, as caching proxy servers, reliable name servers, etc.
Our IT department is mostly just for windows support. They are converting all mail servers to exchange, moving to active directory, etc. The UNIX development environments are kept on life support but only 1 guy has much of a clue and he doesn't care any more.
It is silly but at least there is a way out, they tolerate non-standard setups but they are all peer supported.
It could be Muslims. It could be Christians. It could be Athiests, (White|Black|Yellow|Red|Purple) supremacists, anarchists, fascists, disgruntled pilots, almost anybody. I am not blaming any of the above groups;
I gaurantee you that it wasn't Athiests. Four planes with suicide attacks. It had to have been a group with strong religious beliefs about the attack. Only those with a 'holy' mission would end their own lives like this.
It is obvious that this is wrong and evil. Some seem to think this is a grey area. It has all the components of corporate evil:
Creative use of marketing lists
paper spam
intent to decieve govt (different text, stationary)
propaganda, FUD
In short it seems like something that anyone should view as obviously wrong and detrimential to the democratic process. But I am sure some apologist will disagree.
Any person without proper ID or if they don't make it within the voting time period does not get to vote. They can go cry a river somewhere.
Actually there is no requirement for having ID in many states. Both NY and NJ don't require ID. In OR I voted entirely by mail. I never saw a person to show id to. Your signature is all that is necessary. In NY,and NJ I had to sign in the register. Then I was allowed to use the voting machines.
Your other comment regarding making it in the voting period is also interesting. In many voting districts people had been lined up all day to vote and did not make it before the office closed. I find this a problem.
I work in the cable industry and so work with a number of people @ Time Warner NYC. Most of the guys there are using netcom as an ISP on their own dime currently. The group just recently completed a switch to GroupWise and now have to abandon it for AOL.
As you can imagine they are not happy but they are used to it. Apparently AOL/Time Warner doesn't consider email an important tool. It has gone through so many changes that no one really relies on it. The business cards I have even have their private netcom addresses on them.
Are you totally nuts? Just open the door and beg to be screened by your DNA. Are you in love with an actuary or something?
Do you really think that someone over the age of 60 is too much of a risk to employ? My god they might become worth too much to the company and then DIE. Give me a break.
Listen if you manage to make it to 60 (or 72) with your attitude then you will really want to be able to find work.
The solution is that you require the key generator to be held in escrow. If FailedCo bites it the generator is unwrapped and keys good until the next century are released to the users.
You mentioned another problem:
What if FailedCo itself has been licensing code from another company, and that license has run out?
Now that is very common in licensing enforcement software/hardware solutions. The tools to create licenses are often licensed and most of those expire.
Again the defense is to require a way out to be held in escrow. This would prevent certain business models from being used by software licensing companies but at no real loss to society.
One of my co-workers ended up with an a20m and wanted to put FreeBSD on it. We saw this problem first hand.
The issue is that all goes swimmingly until you try to reboot after fully repartitioning. If the first partition is not ext2, fat, fat32, or ntfs you are SOL. The BIOS won't even come up. We had to pull the drive, which allowed in the BIOS. We then put the drive in another computer that didn't have the initial problem. We then repartitioned it and all went well.
My Co-worker ended up with Linux on his system and is fine. But as you can see the affected models of laptops will have trouble with other partition types such as reiserFS, ext3 (maybe),...
This will provide others to follow with lots of fun problems.
Tacklehead wrote:
Heinlein wrote: > consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way.
Granted, this wasn't the original poster's intent, but the aforementioned quote is probably the best argument I've seen to vote for Bush during the whole
campaign;-)
By this you mean that Bush is a malicious fool?
/Duncan
And to rebut your last comment, no, when you have an OEM copy of an MS software, you don't get to freely run it on any *one*
computer that you may own... you only get to run it upon the *original* computer upon which it came installed. Whether or not you consider it to be the same
computer is irrelevant: MS has dictated otherwise, and it's their license and their software (even though you may be in personal posession of a copy), not
yours.
That point is in contention. You are choosing to apply this as contract law. Currently this is not a done deal. Hanging out with lawyers and corporate types may let you think there is one answer today and that answer is unquestioned law. That is false.
UCITA and fair use are still fighting it out. I disagree with you but please note I am a NYer and known for being a PITA.
Sound practice, that. If the customer says, "No, I'm not pirating anything, I'm putting Linux on that machine," the retailer has done their part. They've done
just about everything they can legally do, short of refusing the sale. And if they won't sell you a so-called naked PC, the guy down the street probably will...
(The whole discussion of whether it's a retailer's job to act as unpaid agents for the anti-piracy faction is better left elsewhere.)
I have two problems with your comments. First the "Don't worry the guy down the street will sell you a naked machine" comment.
When you see corruption or unfair behavior that affects you, you should fight back then. If you wait until no one will sell you a naked machine then it is too late. We all need to make it clear why we are choosing other vendors. Loudly-- Where investors can here us.
Don't be a complacent victim.
Now on the issue of retailers acting as unpaid agents for the anti-piracy factions, where else would you discuss this. This discussion is as much about that as it is the contention that I (the consumer) shouldn't be sold a naked PC.
Dealer: "Sir, this computer comes pre-installed with Windows, as well as every other software package known to man!"
Consumer: "Buy I don't want or need all of that! I'll never use it all"
Dealer: "Well, it's my responsibility to make sure you don't pirate the software by selling you a computer with it all preinstalled! It's my moral duty!"
Anytime you here someone say "It is my moral duty" you should be suspicious. It is a load of sh*te in most cases.---
shudder
That's right, that oem copy of Win98 is legally valid only for the original pile of parts that it was purchased with. Even if you kept the same old "GeeWhiz
2000" case, with its serial number, because you installed a new "system" into it, it is now in the eyes of MS, the SPA, and whatever other gestapo,... a
different "computer", and hence illegal upon which to install that oem copy of Windows that came with the original PC.
Not so sure. OEM copies are illegal to distribute without a computer BUT it doesn't limit fair use. In other words the manufacturer of that Celeron in your example cannot distribute his relatively cheap license without a computer BUT you as the consumer can use it as you wish. Again one use at a time.
Now MS and others may disagree since they want to shape license agreements in the most favorable light for MS. But fair use is not yet dead though the lobbiests stand above its body with sharpened knives.
>Complete restrictions on companies, or giving them free reign to do anything in the name of profits? It's not actually an easy question to answer. Well, obviously it needs to be somewhere in- between. We need to draw a line somewhere which lets businesses protect themselves, while still giving the consumers rights. The only problem is figuring out just where we draw that line.
Where do you draw the line? My point is that an ISP (large or small) is in the business of supplying bandwidth and connectivity. A DOS or DDOS is a direct attack on that capibility. Since that function is core of your business it is part of the cost of doing business to protect against DOS and DDOS. As an ISP you must be able to react quickly and protect your network in the event of such as attack. You should have a plan of action and agreements with your upstream providers on how to handle such attacks. As a business, small or large, this is your job.
Blaming the customer is just idiotic and should be universally condemned. They are a target and they should only be kicked off when they violate an actual legimate AUP. Not because they were a target of a DOS that is the job of the ISP to deal with.
As a co-admin of a shell/webhosting server, I can't see what else they are supposed to do.
[SNIP] have had an entire networked downed for over 24 hours because of a DoS, which means the victim loses out, everyone else loses out, and we lose lots of money -- especially when a shell user brings down the webhosting side of things.
Come on now, this doesn't make sense. Killing the target won't help during the attack During the attack you: 1. Find the source or sources of the DOS 2. Block/Filter this at your guardian routers 3. Communicate with the source ISPs. 4. Other net admin steps I forgot
Killing the account must have come later during the "how do we prevent this from happening again" discussion. Obviously this is a stupid reaction. DOS attacks are something you can't ignore by placing your head in the ground and refusing to believe legimate people are being attacked.
If you are an ISP it is your responsibility to learn to handle this kind of attack in stride /Duncan
I have to agree with Reality Master 101. The comparison between a physical burglary and a net DOS or other attack is not in any way valid.
It (net attack) is more akin to launching an attack from a submarine that may be in a neutral third party countries waters. Resulting in a return strike on the third party country. (this example assumes that detection of the sub seperately is impossible).
Attacking me in the home personally is quite different. /Duncan Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net
Outlook can send mail over a Notes mail network. You have to configure the Service for Outlook to allow it to talk to Notes. Unfortunately this is easy and done my many users who like microsoft tools including IE. People will do this so IE can email via notes and also send pages etc to notes users.
This means that an infected user can propogate this virus if outlook is configured correctly. My last company was a notes shop and Melissa spread via this method.
Your question isn't really about security but about feeling good about your other players. The solution is to not have a centralized server method. To allow local groups to run their own servers and control who uses them. Then in your chosen group, administered by fellow players who love the game, you have a community you trust and enjoy playing with.
Lan Parties are examples of this kind of behavior. MUDs was another. There were and are good MUDs and bad MUDs. The best had a community and people who cared.
Solutions regarding social behaviour in Humans are not cheap. They all require hard work and there is no quick technical fix, no silver bullet. Looking for one is just asking for trouble.
Laptops is the answer. Hell my laptop runs linux and has two licenses for XP. One from Dell and the other the Corp license. I don't run XP at all in any form.
DTV tivo style is more like 1.5 Mbps. Most of the cable companies deploying VOD this year are using 3.75 Mbps as their max bw/movie.
PVR from the server side is completely possible. I have worked on functional demos of PVR over your typical cable plant. We were using real-time encoders to take analog cable inputs and put it on the server (typical VOD system for cable, lets not name names). The clients would pick the program and could perform all the standard VCR-like controls. Obviously they could only FF to the boundry between live and encoded content.
It is not that hard. More work needs to be done with the guide vendors such as TVGuide to integrate with their product.
Cable infrastructure is ready in the Metro areas. Some rural areas are also ready since they tend to used as test sites for this kind of technology.
/Duncan
I cry BS. Your previous post claimed that performance was not a reason and yet I don't believe you. Wake up and stop acting as the HW vendors lobbyist.
Our setup here is such that the boxes are locked down but we have standard form and procedure to get admin rights on any box given justification. I don't know a local developer who doesn't have root on their box.
Support is limited to standard apps and reinstall is by re-image. We develop to a non-pc platform and so developers have a workstation either on their desk or they use one of the shared workstations.
Linux is tolerated but unsupported. I and a number of other support the linux users as peers. We help out with printing, NIS, NFS and other issues like burning CDs. Interestingly enough our boxes are heavily used by coworkers for burning cds from the nfs shares, analyzing mpeg, as caching proxy servers, reliable name servers, etc.
Our IT department is mostly just for windows support. They are converting all mail servers to exchange, moving to active directory, etc. The UNIX development environments are kept on life support but only 1 guy has much of a clue and he doesn't care any more.
It is silly but at least there is a way out, they tolerate non-standard setups but they are all peer supported.
I gaurantee you that it wasn't Athiests. Four planes with suicide attacks. It had to have been a group with strong religious beliefs about the attack. Only those with a 'holy' mission would end their own lives like this.
/Duncan
In short it seems like something that anyone should view as obviously wrong and detrimential to the democratic process. But I am sure some apologist will disagree.
/Duncan
Your other comment regarding making it in the voting period is also interesting. In many voting districts people had been lined up all day to vote and did not make it before the office closed. I find this a problem.
I work in the cable industry and so work with a number of people @ Time Warner NYC. Most of the guys there are using netcom as an ISP on their own dime currently. The group just recently completed a switch to GroupWise and now have to abandon it for AOL.
As you can imagine they are not happy but they are used to it. Apparently AOL/Time Warner doesn't consider email an important tool. It has gone through so many changes that no one really relies on it. The business cards I have even have their private netcom addresses on them.
/Duncan
Duncan Watson
WHAT!!!
Are you totally nuts? Just open the door and beg to be screened by your DNA. Are you in love with an actuary or something?
Do you really think that someone over the age of 60 is too much of a risk to employ? My god they might become worth too much to the company and then DIE. Give me a break.
Listen if you manage to make it to 60 (or 72) with your attitude then you will really want to be able to find work.
/Duncan
Duncan Watson
You mentioned another problem: Now that is very common in licensing enforcement software/hardware solutions. The tools to create licenses are often licensed and most of those expire.
Again the defense is to require a way out to be held in escrow. This would prevent certain business models from being used by software licensing companies but at no real loss to society.
Duncan Watson
One of my co-workers ended up with an a20m and wanted to put FreeBSD on it. We saw this problem first hand.
...
/Duncan
The issue is that all goes swimmingly until you try to reboot after fully repartitioning. If the first partition is not ext2, fat, fat32, or ntfs you are SOL. The BIOS won't even come up. We had to pull the drive, which allowed in the BIOS. We then put the drive in another computer that didn't have the initial problem. We then repartitioned it and all went well.
My Co-worker ended up with Linux on his system and is fine. But as you can see the affected models of laptops will have trouble with other partition types such as reiserFS, ext3 (maybe),
This will provide others to follow with lots of fun problems.
Duncan Watson
Tacklehead wrote: ;-)
/Duncan
Heinlein wrote:
> consult some well-meaning fool (there is always one around) and ask his advice. Then vote the other way.
Granted, this wasn't the original poster's intent, but the aforementioned quote is probably the best argument I've seen to vote for Bush during the whole
campaign
By this you mean that Bush is a malicious fool?
Duncan Watson
This is a scheme to make it corporate policy for various OEMs to sell MS OSes on their machines to prevent piracy
Duncan Watson
And to rebut your last comment, no, when you have an OEM copy of an MS software, you don't get to freely run it on any *one* computer that you may own... you only get to run it upon the *original* computer upon which it came installed. Whether or not you consider it to be the same computer is irrelevant: MS has dictated otherwise, and it's their license and their software (even though you may be in personal posession of a copy), not yours.
That point is in contention. You are choosing to apply this as contract law. Currently this is not a done deal. Hanging out with lawyers and corporate types may let you think there is one answer today and that answer is unquestioned law.
That is false.
UCITA and fair use are still fighting it out. I disagree with you but please note I am a NYer and known for being a PITA.
Duncan Watson
cute but we must remember that the true OSTDs are viruses and our MS users are the high risk users here.
Duncan Watson
Sound practice, that. If the customer says, "No, I'm not pirating anything, I'm putting Linux on that machine," the retailer has done their part. They've done just about everything they can legally do, short of refusing the sale. And if they won't sell you a so-called naked PC, the guy down the street probably will...
(The whole discussion of whether it's a retailer's job to act as unpaid agents for the anti-piracy faction is better left elsewhere.)
I have two problems with your comments. First the "Don't worry the guy down the street will sell you a naked machine" comment.
When you see corruption or unfair behavior that affects you, you should fight back then.
If you wait until no one will sell you a naked machine then it is too late. We all need to make it clear why we are choosing other vendors.
Loudly-- Where investors can here us.
Don't be a complacent victim.
Now on the issue of retailers acting as unpaid agents for the anti-piracy factions, where else would you discuss this. This discussion is as much about that as it is the contention that I (the consumer) shouldn't be sold a naked PC.
Duncan Watson
Dealer: "Sir, this computer comes pre-installed with Windows, as well as every other software package known to man!"
Consumer: "Buy I don't want or need all of that! I'll never use it all"
Dealer: "Well, it's my responsibility to make sure you don't pirate the software by selling you a computer with it all preinstalled! It's my moral duty!"
Anytime you here someone say "It is my moral duty" you should be suspicious. It is a load of sh*te in most cases.--- shudder
Duncan Watson
That's right, that oem copy of Win98 is legally valid only for the original pile of parts that it was purchased with. Even if you kept the same old "GeeWhiz 2000" case, with its serial number, because you installed a new "system" into it, it is now in the eyes of MS, the SPA, and whatever other gestapo,... a different "computer", and hence illegal upon which to install that oem copy of Windows that came with the original PC.
Not so sure. OEM copies are illegal to distribute without a computer BUT it doesn't limit fair use. In other words the manufacturer of that Celeron in your example cannot distribute his relatively cheap license without a computer BUT you as the consumer can use it as you wish. Again one use at a time.
Now MS and others may disagree since they want to shape license agreements in the most favorable light for MS. But fair use is not yet dead though the lobbiests stand above its body with sharpened knives.
my $0.02,
Duncan Watson
In addition to the points mentioned above about how to use LILO w/reiserFS you can use GRUB.
/Duncan
Duncan Watson
>Complete restrictions on companies, or giving them free reign to do anything in the name of profits? It's not actually an easy question to answer.
/Duncan
Well, obviously it needs to be somewhere in- between. We need to draw a line somewhere which lets businesses protect themselves, while still giving the consumers rights. The only problem is figuring out just where we draw that line.
Where do you draw the line?
My point is that an ISP (large or small) is in the business of supplying bandwidth and connectivity. A DOS or DDOS is a direct attack on that capibility. Since that function is core of your business it is part of the cost of doing business to protect against DOS and DDOS. As an ISP you must be able to react quickly and protect your network in the event of such as attack. You should have a plan of action and agreements with your upstream providers on how to handle such attacks. As a business, small or large, this is your job.
Blaming the customer is just idiotic and should be universally condemned. They are a target and they should only be kicked off when they violate an actual legimate AUP. Not because they were a target of a DOS that is the job of the ISP to deal with.
Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy
PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net
As a co-admin of a shell/webhosting server, I can't see what else they are supposed to do.
/Duncan
[SNIP]
have had an entire networked downed for over 24 hours because of a DoS, which means the victim loses out, everyone else loses out, and we lose lots of money -- especially when a shell user brings down the webhosting side of things.
Come on now, this doesn't make sense. Killing the target won't help during the attack
During the attack you:
1. Find the source or sources of the DOS
2. Block/Filter this at your guardian routers
3. Communicate with the source ISPs.
4. Other net admin steps I forgot
Killing the account must have come later during the "how do we prevent this from happening again" discussion. Obviously this is a stupid reaction. DOS attacks are something you can't ignore by placing your head in the ground and refusing to believe legimate people are being attacked.
If you are an ISP it is your responsibility to learn to handle this kind of attack in stride
Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy
PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net
I have to agree with Reality Master 101. The comparison between a physical burglary and a net DOS or other attack is not in any way valid.
/Duncan
It (net attack) is more akin to launching an attack from a submarine that may be in a neutral third party countries waters. Resulting in a return strike on the third party country. (this example assumes that detection of the sub seperately is impossible).
Attacking me in the home personally is quite different.
Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy
PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net
Outlook can send mail over a Notes mail network. You have to configure the Service for Outlook to allow it to talk to Notes. Unfortunately this is easy and done my many users who like microsoft tools including IE. People will do this so IE can email via notes and also send pages etc to notes users.
/Duncan
This means that an infected user can propogate this virus if outlook is configured correctly. My last company was a notes shop and Melissa spread via this method.
Notes does not render you immune.
Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy
PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net
Your question isn't really about security but about feeling good about your other players. The solution is to not have a centralized server method. To allow local groups to run their own servers and control who uses them. Then in your chosen group, administered by fellow players who love the game, you have a community you trust and enjoy playing with.
/Duncan
Lan Parties are examples of this kind of behavior. MUDs was another. There were and are good MUDs and bad MUDs. The best had a community and people who cared.
Solutions regarding social behaviour in Humans are not cheap. They all require hard work and there is no quick technical fix, no silver bullet. Looking for one is just asking for trouble.
Duncan Watson -Rock climbing, Encryption, privacy
PGP Fingerprint -PGP Key on www.keyserver.net