Pretend I know nothing about Pollster (which happens to be true). Why should I care whether they've faked results? By that, I mean: do they research options of favorite flavors of cotton candy, or public support for health care reform, or the best style of car, or...? In other words, do they do stuff that actually matters?
Faked polls = astroturfing.
Need I say more?
Well, you might need to explain what astroturfing is. Most people here think that astroturfing is when you are satisfied with a mass-market product.
Dude, most people worldwide buy their games at stalls from boxes. In fact, the first game software I ever bought was when I was traveling to Australia and NZ and such places.
Not everywhere is like us.
I never suggested otherwise. There's nothing new going on here, either. The US (and Japan) has plenty of access to super cheap games since the whole thing began, yet demand for the expensive ones is still high. Trust me, you're not looking at New Zealand or Australia and seeing the future of video gaming.
And many games for the iPhone are pretty darned cheap.
At some point, game producers will start cranking out cheap English mods of Bollywood dance games and Chinese puzzle and combat games and take over the US market with games that sell for $10 a pop total.
Barriers exist to crumble.
That won't satisfy the large demand for other games.
$10 games have failed to kill $50-$60 games for well over a decade.
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Do you understand the concept of supply? We're talking about data here. You can't apply supply and demand concepts when the supply is practically infinite.
Your statement would only be true if every single game for sale was identical. Supply refers to providing things that people want, it's not limited to just how many copies of a game you can sell.
You could have two monkeys yanking a rope (which does seem to be the case for the main internet-bearing lines accross the Atlantic from time to time) transmitting TCP/IP-packets between eachother....
I have a semi-serious question: Suppose you set up two robots to be 'monkeys' pulling on a rope stretching across the Atlantic, what would the ping time be? Would the other end of the rope start moving faster/slower than a signal going over a cable?
Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass.
"Probably"? Bicycles, roller blades, cars, and segways have failed to prevent this sight from occurring.
I'm actually surprised that, so far, no one has misinterpreted this as "all your Google Docs are belong to our search engine" along with a few jihaddist vows to delete all data from Google immediately. Instead, everyone seems to have read the article and understand that these documents already should have been indexed, because the users published them on a web site the public has access to.
Who are all of you people, and what have you done with my Slashdot????
It's the same people. It's just that this story was about Google and not Apple.
Please leave me out of this. Most of the stuff I like doesn't cost money.
So, what, you got your computer, network, internet connection, music player, digital camera, video games, television/DVDs, and cell phone all for free?
Have you noticed that console game creation has gone up to the point where a lot of PC gamers complain that good games are going to consoles and not PCs?
Sure, there's good titles exclusive to the PC still, but not many anymore. The big producers like the lower piracy rates on consoles, and it shows.
Hardly conclusive. Record numbers of people own consoles and portable systems. The market is bigger and not nearly the nightmare to develop games for as it is for the PC.
PC Gaming is plenty crummy without needing piracy as an excuse.
since microsoft can not (or will not) build secure operating systems and the operating systems... so it all boils down to the greedy protecting the stupid so the greedy can keep selling them poorly designed products...
Personally I could see Microsoft just doing this so nobody notices that they're drowing baby kittens for fun. I mean it's easy to picture, right?
The app store arguments might make sense in a phone comparison.
I just don't see the big difference between a non-phone mp3 player with or without an app store. But I guess I may not be the target audience or understand that market.
I had an iPod touch for about 6 months before I bought an iPhone. There were a few things I liked about it.
1.) Web browsing worked really well. I could check my email (via gMail) easily. That was more interesting at work than home since I was frequently away from my desk.
2.) There are a ton of games you can get for it. Personally I got a kick out of Space Ace. I heard the Civ game is slick, too.
3.) I know this'll sound silly but I've liked having IMDB handy while watching a DVD with my girlfriend.
4.) Having an Instant Messenger is nice. YMMV.
5.) The app store always has something funky or bizarre to play with. I found a unit converter once that turned out to be really handy on the set. Frankly, until you've wandered in there (or if I knew more about you...) it's hard to say what'll tickle your fancy.
It's more interesting to have the phone, for sure, but the touch isn't useless. Heck, from what I understand, you can rent vids from iTunes and use the iPod touch to play them on your TV.
Oh man. I phrased that badly. I wasn't trying to say you were saying "I can't", I was trying to say that George Lucas was saying that... *Sigh* I'm sorry man, I didn't mean to imply that.
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Pretend I know nothing about Pollster (which happens to be true). Why should I care whether they've faked results? By that, I mean: do they research options of favorite flavors of cotton candy, or public support for health care reform, or the best style of car, or...? In other words, do they do stuff that actually matters?
Faked polls = astroturfing.
Need I say more?
Well, you might need to explain what astroturfing is. Most people here think that astroturfing is when you are satisfied with a mass-market product.
Dude, most people worldwide buy their games at stalls from boxes. In fact, the first game software I ever bought was when I was traveling to Australia and NZ and such places.
Not everywhere is like us.
I never suggested otherwise. There's nothing new going on here, either. The US (and Japan) has plenty of access to super cheap games since the whole thing began, yet demand for the expensive ones is still high. Trust me, you're not looking at New Zealand or Australia and seeing the future of video gaming.
Failed to kill?
Yep. See the $60 games on shelves?
And many games for the iPhone are pretty darned cheap.
At some point, game producers will start cranking out cheap English mods of Bollywood dance games and Chinese puzzle and combat games and take over the US market with games that sell for $10 a pop total.
Barriers exist to crumble.
That won't satisfy the large demand for other games.
$10 games have failed to kill $50-$60 games for well over a decade.
Do you understand the concept of supply? We're talking about data here. You can't apply supply and demand concepts when the supply is practically infinite.
Your statement would only be true if every single game for sale was identical. Supply refers to providing things that people want, it's not limited to just how many copies of a game you can sell.
Supply and demand still apply, here.
"That leaves $30 to $35 in the hands of the publishers."
So why can't we just download games for about half the street price?
Supply and Demand.
You could have two monkeys yanking a rope (which does seem to be the case for the main internet-bearing lines accross the Atlantic from time to time) transmitting TCP/IP-packets between eachother....
I have a semi-serious question: Suppose you set up two robots to be 'monkeys' pulling on a rope stretching across the Atlantic, what would the ping time be? Would the other end of the rope start moving faster/slower than a signal going over a cable?
The drive may not cost the earth, but that's still around 50% more than you'd pay for a 1TB external drive with a USB 2.0 interface.
Just sayin'
The first one out has a premium price. Faces on stun.
Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass.
"Probably"? Bicycles, roller blades, cars, and segways have failed to prevent this sight from occurring.
I'm actually surprised that, so far, no one has misinterpreted this as "all your Google Docs are belong to our search engine" along with a few jihaddist vows to delete all data from Google immediately. Instead, everyone seems to have read the article and understand that these documents already should have been indexed, because the users published them on a web site the public has access to.
Who are all of you people, and what have you done with my Slashdot????
It's the same people. It's just that this story was about Google and not Apple.
So... what, you're here to get directions on how to get away from here? Hehe.
So you have nothing you've purchased that has been covered on Slashdot?
With one or two exceptions, Slashdot's a lousy place to come to in order to read about those things.
Who's saying he likes those?
He frequents Slashdot, which constantly 'advertises' products.
Please leave me out of this. Most of the stuff I like doesn't cost money.
So, what, you got your computer, network, internet connection, music player, digital camera, video games, television/DVDs, and cell phone all for free?
Please.
How's that supposed to work? Most of the stuff we like costs money.
Have you noticed that console game creation has gone up to the point where a lot of PC gamers complain that good games are going to consoles and not PCs?
Sure, there's good titles exclusive to the PC still, but not many anymore. The big producers like the lower piracy rates on consoles, and it shows.
Hardly conclusive. Record numbers of people own consoles and portable systems. The market is bigger and not nearly the nightmare to develop games for as it is for the PC.
PC Gaming is plenty crummy without needing piracy as an excuse.
What I see microsoft really doing is...
since microsoft can not (or will not) build secure operating systems and the operating systems ... so it all boils down to the greedy protecting the stupid so the greedy can keep selling them poorly designed products...
Personally I could see Microsoft just doing this so nobody notices that they're drowing baby kittens for fun. I mean it's easy to picture, right?
The iPhone has been adopted by the masses. You're going to hear a lot about it. Boo hoo.
iPod touch has neither phone or GPS?
The app store arguments might make sense in a phone comparison.
I just don't see the big difference between a non-phone mp3 player with or without an app store. But I guess I may not be the target audience or understand that market.
I had an iPod touch for about 6 months before I bought an iPhone. There were a few things I liked about it.
1.) Web browsing worked really well. I could check my email (via gMail) easily. That was more interesting at work than home since I was frequently away from my desk.
2.) There are a ton of games you can get for it. Personally I got a kick out of Space Ace. I heard the Civ game is slick, too.
3.) I know this'll sound silly but I've liked having IMDB handy while watching a DVD with my girlfriend.
4.) Having an Instant Messenger is nice. YMMV.
5.) The app store always has something funky or bizarre to play with. I found a unit converter once that turned out to be really handy on the set. Frankly, until you've wandered in there (or if I knew more about you...) it's hard to say what'll tickle your fancy.
It's more interesting to have the phone, for sure, but the touch isn't useless. Heck, from what I understand, you can rent vids from iTunes and use the iPod touch to play them on your TV.
Good god man, do you like work in area 51 or something?
Even military places that allow civillians in can have this rule in place. I've had to leave my phone at the gate before.
Actually, an Atom N270/N280 has a pretty hard time playing back Flash video...
What about upskirts?
Why whine? You can't retract your slashdot posts either.
Quiet! I'm trying to sell torches and pitchforks, here. Stay out of the iPhone threads, too.
Oh man. I phrased that badly. I wasn't trying to say you were saying "I can't", I was trying to say that George Lucas was saying that... *Sigh* I'm sorry man, I didn't mean to imply that.
As to changing the car's oil, that's not stupidity, it's ignorance. You could learn to change the oil in your car, a truly stupid person couldn't.
This is ultimately the point I was trying to make. We agree, man.
Have a good day.