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Honda's Answer To the Segway

lcreech writes with an excerpt from the Daily Mail's description of a new Segway-style one-person vehicle being shown off by Honda: "The vehicle looks like a very modern unicycle and to ride it you simply lean your weight in the direction you want to go, whether that's forward, backwards or even sideways. It maintains its own balance travelling up to 3.7MPH. Not very fast."

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  1. Good and bad, computer chair version and some beer by sopssa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass. Sooner or later this will be reality, in a bad and a good way. While convenience is nice, it has bad sides too.

    That being said, I would so use this. Can I get a comfortable computer chair version too, so I can get a beer easily (and one of those japanese beer serving machines please )

  2. Creepy by dijjnn · · Score: 0

    Cool design, but I think it would be creepy to see people zipping down sidewalks on one of these things ... like they're floating along on an invisible toilet seat.

    Creepy, I say!

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    1. Re:Creepy by spun · · Score: 1

      I wonder if these devices lock you in with a control rod inserted into your anus, like Mr. Garrison's IT?

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  3. My review by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

    No handlebars. Less speed than a Segway. Lame.

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    1. Re:My review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A parody of taco's ipod review. Funny about 5 times, years ago. Lame.

    2. Re:My review by OrangeMonkey11 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      it's a unicycle

    3. Re:My review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can ride a Honda with no handlebars, no handlebars, no handlebars

  4. Not cool enough by stjobe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Until I get this I'm not satisfied.

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    1. Re:Not cool enough by sopssa · · Score: 1

      I always keep wondering this. How the hell do you keep balance with just one wheel?

    2. Re:Not cool enough by stjobe · · Score: 1

      Gyros, computers, and magic. Last one optional.

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    3. Re:Not cool enough by OrangeMonkey11 · · Score: 1

      But does it go backward and side to side with ease

    4. Re:Not cool enough by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      I'd think if you had magic, the first two would be the optional parts.

    5. Re:Not cool enough by stjobe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic".

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    6. Re:Not cool enough by Tacvek · · Score: 4, Informative

      The real answer is that side to side balance is maintained by precession, (like on a bicycle) combined with some additional balancing by shifting body weight (also critical on a bike). Unlike on a bike, steering based corrections to balance are not present. With sufficiently wide wheel unicycles, wheel geometry becomes the primary side to side stabilzing method.

      Steering is completely based on leaning in normal unicycles. Normal bicycles also include an additional steering component (the additional wheel that turns).

      Forward and backwards balance is maintained by a combination of of creating a mental feedback loop that causes one to vary cycling speed as necessary to keep the seat roughly upright, along with manually shifting weight forwards and backwards.

      For electronic unicycles, steering and side to side balance generally are the same as with manual ones. However the forward and backwards stability does not rely on any weight shifting on the part of the rider, but solely on varying the motor speed as needed to keep the seat upright.

      Using a feedback system for keeping the seat upright automatically gives the segway-style speed control on these devices. In order to do more traditional style speed controls requires a more complicated system that varies the angle of the seat that the system tries to maintain as necessary such that the average speed remains as desired. Far more complicated, and not needed, so I've not seen any e-unicycle that does not use segway-style speed control.

      There are some tricks that allow steering not based on leaning, and some of the e-unicycle designs I have seen use those, but others use lean based steering which works fine, except for at near stationary speeds, but some of these other systems allow for a smaller turning radius.

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    7. Re:Not cool enough by TheCycoONE · · Score: 1

      You clearly didn't read the article. By leaning sideways the device moves side ways, it doesn't fall down and you don't compensate for it somehow. This isn't just another motorized unicycle.

    8. Re:Not cool enough by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      And looking closer at Honda's version, they use a special form of wheel that works side to side as well as front to back. There are several methods of doing that, but conceptually a large rubber (or other material) sphere can be used. Mount motors with wheels against the sphere at right angles to each other. Think like the sensors in old ball-based mice, which are at right angles to the ball, but rather than being sensors they are motors for spinning the ball as desired.

      So now you have the ability to control forward and backwards motion using one motor, (along with the gyroscope). So you set this up to work just like a standard e-unicycle. It just tries to keep the seat straight up.

      Now set up a similar system for balancing side to side. The result of this would ideally be a device that moves whatever way you lean, without ever turning. So when you sat on it you would always face the same direction, but could move in any direction.

      In reality the feedback systems will always have some slop so moving forward and to the side will result in some turning. Even gyroscopes drift, and so would this system. By deliberately adding additional slop to the feedback system, a fairly natural lean-like turning can result, but with additional stability. When going forwards/back slowly enough leaning to the side will result in sideways movement with almost no turning.

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    9. Re:Not cool enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the link: "When slowed under 12 mph, a secondary wheel drops down from the front to help the rider balance when he/she comes to a stop."

    10. Re:Not cool enough by savuporo · · Score: 1

      "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo".

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    11. Re:Not cool enough by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Better don't, better limit them to slow urban usage - while those things are indeed controllable, as Tacvek describes, I don't really see how they can do as rapid manouvers as typical motorbike can thanks to countersteering. Which might prove usefull in an emergency situation, especially considering "not seen" attitude of many car drivers...

      (that said, many bikers don't realise they normally countersteer and in an emergency they indeed don't do it, with poor results, so perhaps unicycles would be even better here)

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    12. Re:Not cool enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you read the article and watched the video, you'd know that its not a simple wheel. It can crawl sideways as well as roll forward and backwards. It's described as wheel within a wheel. My best analogy would be a bike wheel, except the tube itself can rotate along its circumference to move the wheel sideways.

  5. Just what America needs! by Kirin+Fenrir · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can do one better. My invention has two wheels, and is entirely human-powered. It's good for the environment, and has a max speed of around 25mph! (legs willing).

    I'll call it: a bicycle.

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    1. Re:Just what America needs! by bakawolf · · Score: 1, Funny

      You should patent that!

    2. Re:Just what America needs! by mdarksbane · · Score: 5, Funny

      Bicycles are far too hard on the environment. You have to mine the iron and aluminum ore and burn coal to process it. That not even counting the (imported) petroleum in the great grease, vulcanized rubber in the wheels, and poly-something-or-other foam in the seat.

        Go for the original in environmentally friendly transportation - horses! And when your old model wears out, you can recycle it into glue and dog food!

    3. Re:Just what America needs! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      When rolling down a 1/2 mile steep hill, I've managed to get my $250 hybrid bike up to 39MPH. Can't QUITE break 40, but 39 is with the whole frame shuddering and wobbling in a pretty frakkin scary way anyway, so I've never dared push it any further. I'm also carrying about 20 pounds of gear (change of clothes, computer, etc). A "real" $1200 unladen road bike would probably bust 45 fairly easily down the same hill, if you could find a cyclist stupid enough to try it.

      If he spent an extra $100 on shoes, he might make 46, possibly even 47 if he dropped an extra $500 shoes made of mousefartium or whatever ultralight material is in vogue right now. (I use jogging sneakers and pedal baskets).

      So, "max speed" of my bike (if I were selling it as a concept car) would be "around 50MPH", and the road bike would be "around 55MPH".

      Your apparent accuracy obviously shows that your marketing skills need work.

      Given that, this device probably really maxes out at about 2MPH, and that's for a Japanese citizen. Not known for excessive height. Put my 6'+ American frame on that bad boy, he's gonna have a more little trouble staying upright. :)

      Now, overall, I like this idea if it could get up to about 10MPH, especially with as small as it folds. "But, wait," I hear you saying, "there are folding bicycles, too, and they have larger wheels and no need for a recharge! And they'll probably be 1/10 the cost of this thing!"

      Oh, yeah, you're right. Never mind.

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    4. Re:Just what America needs! by Kirin+Fenrir · · Score: 1

      Watching you argue with yourself is funny, but, downhill shouldn't really count.

      You're right, I'm too honest for this marketing gig. That's why I was let go from Best Buy after three months. I didn't lie about Monster cables.

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    5. Re:Just what America needs! by Qalthos · · Score: 1

      A "real" $1200 unladen road bike would probably bust 45 fairly easily down the same hill

      African or European?

    6. Re:Just what America needs! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Hey, at least Best Buy didn't get into "audio perfect" power strips... Monster cables are a scam, but they are one of the cheaper "look how much money you can spend on apparent increases in audio quality" scams out there. :)

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    7. Re:Just what America needs! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      ^^^ Just for the record, I used the word "unladen" to see if anyone would take the bait.

      We have a winner! :)

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    8. Re:Just what America needs! by FooAtWFU · · Score: 1

      I had an ultra-low-speed bike accident the other week. My ankle was really sore for a while. I couldn't walk on it for a couple days. I wonder if a device like this would have helped. (Though I'm obviously not interested in spending a few grand if I was only going to use it for a week).

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    9. Re:Just what America needs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you got on and fell off the other side?

      Biking and boozing don't mix! Drink your Fat Tire Ale after the ride, not before.

    10. Re:Just what America needs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you've violated my patent...

    11. Re:Just what America needs! by sohare · · Score: 1

      Watching you argue with yourself is funny, but, downhill shouldn't really count. You're right, I'm too honest for this marketing gig. That's why I was let go from Best Buy after three months. I didn't lie about Monster cables.

      I don't think that telling the truth about monster cables makes you an honest person so much as it doesn't make you intellectually dishonest. It really is the duty of any intelligent species to inform themselves and not spread dis/misinformation. The problem being, of course, that people don't know have to inform themselves. It's amazing to me that we have progressed so far as an intelligent species yet people still are convinced by a few shitty anecdotes supporting some bit of highly implausible pseudoscience (such as homeopathy).

    12. Re:Just what America needs! by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      If you can include going downhill then why not figure max speed as terminal velocity at sea level air pressure. ie. Max speed after driven off a cliff. Should be able to get into the 70's easy.

    13. Re:Just what America needs! by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      Go for the original in environmentally friendly transportation - horses! And when your old model wears out, you can recycle it into glue and dog food!

      When cars first came upon the scene they were considered by many to be less polluting than the horses they replaced as cars don't sh*t on the road.

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    14. Re:Just what America needs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i think you have no idea how many resources horses require. A bike is a better deal. Especially because it will work fine in 100 years with proper maintenance.

    15. Re:Just what America needs! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It scares me that you got modded insightful.

    16. Re:Just what America needs! by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      wow, that sounds like some cheap crap bike you bought. Makes sense because a good bike often costs twice that, without batteries...(as you point out) I am not all that great of a bi-cyclist and I average 30 MPH over a 6 mile part of a tri-athlon (with 40 mph sections in step with dozens of other riders), I have no problems getting to 39 mph on flat (for a mile maybe), 45 to 50 mph is not really un-comfortable, except on gravel, I rode at those speeds regularly without any funny movements (was $300 for a older used bike)...
      Anyway, thats all mostly a mute point, its really just the tires/frame that make the difference, after all my motorcycle is very stable at 170 MPH, it's just having the right tires, rims (and tire balance.) I doubt their is any "stabilization" issue with this unicycle at faster speeds, much like any 1 or 2 wheel bike, the faster it spins the more momentum that is available to stabilize you, the easier it is to balance. It would still be unsafe at faster speeds IMHO, for 1 it would take much greater distance to recover, so couldn't be used in tight spaces. It would be very painful when a mistake is made. Like a bike, it would take riders awhile to learn the limits safely, and thats not likely on something that looks/acts like a toy. And mostly it would take skill (like a unicycle) to bring it down from speed quickly( unicycle just takes a tight turn with proper lean btw, need to leave space still), but no great skill to get to that speed (with electronic stability.)
      I would still like one of these with a high/low speed switch though.

    17. Re:Just what America needs! by twitchingbug · · Score: 1

      I know this wasn't the point of your post but, It sounds like you could use a better bike. (Sorry, I'm a cyclist, and I used to work in a bike shop.)

      Seriously tho, your bike shouldn't shake AT ALL, coming down a hill at 39mph. It should be rock solid. Seriously, you're worrying me about your safety. And it sounds like you commute everyday on your bike, so it might be worth the investment.

      You're right, you don't need to spend a lot of money to reduce weight. It's most definitely overrated, but seriously, try out a low end hybrid of any of the big bike makers (Trek, Specialized, Giant), I think you'll be surprised how much better the ride is.

      anyhow, 45mph isn't stupid. It's fun. I've hit that a bunch of times. :)

      oh, also, one last thing, you probably thumb your nose at people that have clipless pedals and shoes, but they do make a world of difference in your cycling efficiency. sneaker's soles tend to fold in half, whereas real cycling shoes have very stiff soles, and allow you to transfer power directly into the pedal. And believe it or not, clipless pedals are actually safer than the pedal cages, because you can actually get out of clipless pedals in an emergency. Cages are only useful if you tie them down really tight on your shoes, but then you can't get out of them anymore.

    18. Re:Just what America needs! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      I don't thumb my nose at anyone, seriously. The $600 joke was based on a serious ad I saw on Nashbar for a $600 pair of cycling shoes that cut 2 grams off the weight. :)

      I use baskets because that's what the bike came with and that's what I have the budget for. They worked OK for 1000 miles last summer. Probably not ideal, but I can sustain about 15MPH in Maine's hilly terrain...

      I'd like to try out a better bike, clipless, etc, but I can afford what I've got and it got the job done.

      And I only hit 39 a couple of times. I usually coast down that hill and the bike is rock solid up to about 35. I do appreciate your concern.

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    19. Re:Just what America needs! by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      Horses are not necessarily environmentally friendly. The amount of vegetation they need to consume just to stay alive requires a large area of specifically cultivated land, or a whole lot more pasture area. They also require regular exercise and room to move freely even when riden daily.

    20. Re:Just what America needs! by mdarksbane · · Score: 1

      It scares me that people take me seriously.

      Although I am curious to see a comparison of how much space is needed to provide forage/sustenance for a horse versus the whole supply chain to produce a bicycle. I can't see any way for horses to scale up to provide transport for a modern city, though.

    21. Re:Just what America needs! by frumundasteeze · · Score: 1

      Although it does take quite a few resources to build a bike, I'm sure this little robo-scooter needs just as much if not more. Also, a single bike can last for decades. Schwinn was making bikes in the 1960's that still work today. And not only do they work but they provide a good source of exercise and they go a heck of a lot faster than 7mph

  6. 3.7 MPH?! by SputnikPanic · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's it? Come on, we can walk faster than that!

    1. Re:3.7 MPH?! by MyLongNickName · · Score: 4, Funny

      Somehow, I am thinking that the people who would use this would not be capable of walking faster.

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    2. Re:3.7 MPH?! by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Somehow, I am thinking that the people who would use this would not be capable of walking faster.

      Unfortunately, they're probably also too lazy and uncoordinated to support themselves upright.

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    3. Re:3.7 MPH?! by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Somehow, I think this unit would not be able to carry the weight of the people who would use this.

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    4. Re:3.7 MPH?! by tsotha · · Score: 1

      3.7 mph is a pretty sprightly clip. It's far faster than most people walk and most people aren't capable of maintaining that pace for long periods. Sure, if you're 20 years old and late for work it's not too fast. But this thing would be a godsend for older people or people who have bad knees provided it has a decent range and it fits into a car trunk (and it's light enough to pick it up). But the big plus will be if it can use the same space as pedestrians.

      As I understand it the big reason the Segway turned out to be such a failure is it's heavy and fast enough to be dangerous to pedestrians. So in most places you can't ride one on the sidewalk. There's no reason to buy one if it's limited to the street, since for less money you can get a motor cycle or scooter that would be faster, just as safe, and have a much better range.

    5. Re:3.7 MPH?! by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I would use this if it went a bit faster. There's a nice cafe about half an hour's walk from my house (with free WiFi, so I can work there). Walking there in the morning is nice, walking back (up the hill) in the evening is a bit less fun. Something this small and light, I could carry on the walk there and then have it take me back again. I'd like something a little bit faster though. My normal walking speed is slightly faster than it.

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  7. Boner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only thing this looks good for is if you have a boner and need to get up speed to force it into a very tight snatch.

  8. sounds familiar by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Funny

    The single wheel on the U3-X is made up of many tiny motor-controlled wheels, packed inside the bigger wheel, allowing the device to swerve in any direction.

    Sup dawg, we heard you like unicycling so we put some wheels in your wheel so you can unicycle while you unicycle

    1. Re:sounds familiar by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The single wheel on the U3-X is made up of many tiny motor-controlled wheels, packed inside the bigger wheel, allowing the device to swerve in any direction.

      A wheel made of up of smaller wheels is one of the classic bad ideas of robotics. Back in the 1980s, when robot motion planning software barely worked, many mobile robots were "holonomic" or "omni-drive": they could move in any direction without turning first. One of the popular geometries was three big wheels on axes 120 degrees apart (that robot is in a display case in the lobby of the computer science building at Stanford), with each big wheel composed of little wheels around the rim. This mechanism can execute any rotation or translation.

      The problem is that the little wheels only work on hard, flat terrain. Shag rugs are a problem. Grass, dirt, and mud, no way.

    2. Re:sounds familiar by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      Not *necesserily* a bad idea. While you're right that it's terrible for general purpose transportation, some special purposes find great use out of omnidirectional wheels (Navy forklifts come to mind).

      With the speed this thing is currently capable of, I don't think it's intended to do much outdoor tooling around. Two years ago, I would have said "Shag rugs? This isn't the 80s, bro!" but today I think I'll have to give you that one.

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    3. Re:sounds familiar by fikx · · Score: 1

      there are some practical uses for omniwheels...

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  9. Re:Creepy -- and SAD by citabjockey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More evidance that we are just too fat. We need this like we need another McDonalds on the next corner. Our feet are also "designed to be small, safe and unobtrusive enough to mingle with pedestrians or use indoors",

  10. Rule34? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Knowing the japanese the way he is sitting on it is by design. Just unzip and go for ramming speed on the nearest female. And the top center picture is either a 'look no hands' or 'sorry, it slipped in by "mistake"'.

  11. self-filtering user group by gobbo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're intrepid enough to sit on a motorized unicycle, automated stabilizers aside, you're very likely able and willing to walk 4mph. So, it's no surprise they don't plan on bringing it to market.

    However, nice proof of concept as a base for robots.

    1. Re:self-filtering user group by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the jetsons

    2. Re:self-filtering user group by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BS - My mom has horrible knees and is too scared to get the surgery (and if you mention wheelchair she starts crying hysterically)... this would enable her to have some sort of life besides home and work... she might actually be able to take a vacation!

    3. Re:self-filtering user group by BikeHelmet · · Score: 1

      Something like this really can't compete with a YikeBike.

      More speed, looks more comfortable, more control.. probably cheaper too.

    4. Re:self-filtering user group by gobbo · · Score: 1

      Not BS - my mom had both knees replaced at the same time -- yet she'd never perch on one of these, not EVER, out of fear. I'm guessing if yr mom won't get on a mobility scooter (3 wheelers cost abt $600) she won't be hopping on a unicycle!

  12. No Thanks by malevolentjelly · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think I'll just go back to riding around town on my goat. He's much faster.

  13. Been done already... by jizziknight · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This place: http://focusdesigns.com/ has a working version that you can buy today, apparently. It's also more than twice as fast at 10 MPH.

    Actually, a lot of people have done this before. Just google "self balancing unicycle" or "powered unicycle".

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    1. Re:Been done already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the Honda one has an omnidirectional wheel similar to this except motorized to allow lateral stability as well:
      http://www.robotshop.ca/Images/big/en/vex-robotics-large-omni-directional-wheel-kit.jpg

    2. Re:Been done already... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Fifteen hundred bucks???? Wow, I think I'll buy a bicycle instead. Or a used motorcycle.

    3. Re:Been done already... by dlsmith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That's hardly the same thing, although it may fit the description in the summary. If you watch the video, you'll see that the Honda vehicle allows the rider to glide around in any direction, kind of like a wheeled stool; the unicycle you're linking to only moves in one dimension (forward or back). It also doesn't maintain left/right balance at all.

      It should go without saying that these three self-balancing vehicles—the Segway, the Honda vehicle, and your unicycle—are designed with significantly different applications in mind, despite sharing some similar technology. The Honda vehicle seems best-suited for maneuvering indoors, not as a replacement for your car/bike.

    4. Re:Been done already... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Didn't watch the video did we?

    5. Re:Been done already... by Whorhay · · Score: 1

      $1,500 isn't a bad price at all. A decent Bike with appropriate equipment can cost that much or more. Frankly the one turn-off for me is the relatively low speed. I want an electric transport for that price or close that will get me to work in twenty minutes or less, I live 3.6 miles from my office, which is how fast I was able to do the trip on my pedal powered bike.

  14. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by russ1337 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    that was my first thought... an awesome office chair.

    Second thought was that it will work some muscles that aren't normally used.. with all that leaning moving and stuff...

  15. Neat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Something like this would be very useful for people with mild to moderate mobility problems (e.g. the elderly, people with neurological disorders, people recovering from an injury). It would be perfectly fine for moving around a home, hospital, grocery store, etc. In these kinds of environments, 3.4 mph is a perfectly good speed.

    1. Re:Neat by natehoy · · Score: 1

      But you'd need a pretty refined sense of balance and good motor control to use it. People with neurological disorders and the elderly, in general, are not going to have the fine motor control to keep from smashing into other people, and turning them into potential customers... oh, wait, I think I just figured out their business model.

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  16. better alternative by narfman0 · · Score: 1

    I thought http://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/2/2007_CBR600RR.jpg was their response to segway. Cheaper, safer, faster, cooler.

    1. Re:better alternative by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Safer is debatable. Segways are actually pretty safe just because they don't go very fast.

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  17. Nice design by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: 2, Funny

    So they saw the South Park version and thought, "Not gay enough. Make the whole thing a penis." And then decided it was too gay and popped a whole through the side to insubstantially reduce the wang-iness.

  18. Not for 70% of Americans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too fat.

  19. Well by xednieht · · Score: 1

    That's one way to keep people from driving under the influence, put them on a unicycle. LOL

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  20. Contradiction in terms... by Joce640k · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure the little gyroscopes in that thing will be able to cope with the sort of lard-ass who'd want to buy one.

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    1. Re:Contradiction in terms... by ross.w · · Score: 1

      I look forward to the FAIL video.

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  21. first thought when i saw this was... by DMoylan · · Score: 1

    heinlein and his tumblebugs in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Roads_Must_Roll

  22. as a vehicle this seems... ridiculous by GungaDan · · Score: 1

    as an optional attachment for a prosthetic leg it might make more sense. Go go gadget... uncicyle-like-thingy?

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    1. Re:as a vehicle this seems... ridiculous by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      Call me... Gizmoduck!

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  23. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Kokuyo · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Nice legs and ass? Dude, where do you live and how do your real estate prices look?

    Since bone-skinny has become synonym for sexy, healthy and so on, it's become hard to even FIND women with boobs or asses AT ALL. And the legs? Straight sticks, man. Nothing curvy about that! On the plus side, their hips can easily be used as hooks for your jacket...

  24. stepping stone by Ogive17 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This is just a proof of concept project. Honda encourages engineers to pursue "pet" projects in mobility. The ones with promise are given more resources. Sometimes they even become actual products, like Honda Jet.

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    1. Re:stepping stone by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

      This is just a proof of concept project. Honda encourages engineers to pursue "pet" projects in mobility. The ones with promise are given more resources. Sometimes they even become actual products, like Honda Jet.

      Exactly. This vehicle is not practical for real world travel. It suffers from K9 mobility syndrome, which is worse than Dalek mobility syndrome. K9 could only travel on studio flooring or plywood laid on the ground. This thing would not be able to navigate gravel or curbs, and probably not even carpet.

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  25. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 1

    that was my first thought... an awesome office chair.

    I was thinking more along the lines of tarted-up unicycle, which just makes me want a real (oldschool) unicycle. Damn you, Slashdot!

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  26. Proper response to Segway: by qw0ntum · · Score: 2, Insightful

    *point and laugh*

    Seriously, though. Years late and... conspicuously not needed?

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    1. Re:Proper response to Segway: by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      That's what I was thinking. This sounds about like "Honda's answer to self-inflicted groin injuries!"

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  27. Re:Creepy -- and SAD by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 1

    I *hate* it when fiction becomes reality! DAMN YOU WALL-E! DAMN YOU! [After getting over it] ... I just hope they can make one with heated seat pads and beer holder.

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  28. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by DCheesi · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting for one of those cool lounge chairs from Wall-E...

  29. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass.

    "Probably"? Bicycles, roller blades, cars, and segways have failed to prevent this sight from occurring.

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  30. Obesity rates? by sjbe · · Score: 2, Informative

    Since bone-skinny has become synonym for sexy, healthy and so on, it's become hard to even FIND women with boobs or asses AT ALL.

    You must not live in the US because we have female obesity rates above 30%.

    1. Re:Obesity rates? by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

      I notice that amongst the younger ladies, they are either blimps or sticks now. There's no happy medium. Scrawny toothpick legs everywhere.

      I too would much rather that "healthy" was the new sexy. Athletes and dancers, not people who can live on tic-tacs and (three) cheerios.

  31. Mad Magazine prediction... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have an old Mad Magazine from the late 60's that predicts this device. Everyone gets fat and immobile: hilarity ensues -- it was basically copied in the Walee movie...

  32. Re:Creepy -- and SAD by dijjnn · · Score: 0

    Hey, I'm fat you insensitive clod!

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  33. Dailymail. by zippthorne · · Score: 1

    Are you sure it's even real?

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  34. And I thought it was impossible... by PvtVoid · · Score: 1

    ...they've come up with something that makes you look even dorkier than you would look riding a Segway.

  35. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 4, Funny

    Where I live there is a disturbing number of scooters for the grossly obese - those people who are so corpulent that even walking is beyond them. Whenever I see one, I get to thinking that the only reason why Segways haven't brought on the chubpocalypse is because they were priced too high for lower income people (who have the highest rate of obesity) to afford.

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  36. Why? by Tubal-Cain · · Score: 1

    Honda's Answer To the Segway

    Did it really need a response?

  37. The way this works is cool. by MaWeiTao · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While in general this thing is completely pointless, the way the wheel itself works is really cool. It's composed of cylinders which form the ring for the main wheel but allow sideways movement. Leave it up to the Japanese to dream up the most useless application for advanced technology, but it's cool that they're exploring unconventional concepts.

    1. Re:The way this works is cool. by natehoy · · Score: 1

      Sounds vaguely like a forklift I've seen on a couple of TV shows lately.

      http://thefutureofthings.com/pod/279/sidewinder-sideways-moving-vehicle.html

      It's somewhat creepy watching one of these things in operation, by the way. The wheels keep moving in apparent forward rolling motion, but the thing just scuttles sideways.

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    2. Re:The way this works is cool. by Chosen+Reject · · Score: 1

      I'll second that. It really does look weird.

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  38. Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I commuted to work by unicycle for several years and have done hundreds of miles in total. Modern unicycles have come a long way from the old days of a circus exhibit. There are lot of people who ride very long distances on them. A unicycle won't suit most people for commuting but it actually has more plus points than you'd think ...

    * Lighter weight than a bike, relatively easy to pick up and carry, or wheel along.
    * Takes less space than a bike to store indoors.
    * Cheaper than a bike of equivalent quality.
    * Once you're skilled you can "idle" on the spot (or just hop occasionally to shift the thing back under your centre of mass) so you may not have to put a foot down when waiting in traffic or at lights.
    * Potentially very mechanically simple.
    * Good exercise, including for your core muscles due to the postural component of keeping balanced.

    It's also a good attention grabber, if you like that sort of thing. I've observed that a lot of geeks, particularly computer geeks, seem to like unicycling. My guess is that this is because, relative to a bike, it requires a high degree of mental engagement but in a non-intellectual way. So you get to exercise your brain but in a way which distracts you from the pressures of logical thought processes.

    There are some commuting unicycles here:
    http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=1&subcat=7&cat=Commuter
    Note that handlebars are available, which allows experienced riders to take some weight of their "bits". Combined with modern saddles, a unicycle is a lot less punishing to your nether regions than you'd expect, though you obviously still need to take care!

    Finally, at the high end of the price range, there are unicycles with the Schlumpf (and Kris Holm-Schlumpf) hub-based gearing system. No exposed gearing but you can get something like a 1.5:1 increase in gear ratio, allowing you go go much faster whilst still having the wheel be small and light. In some ways I'd think this would be the best urban commuting unicycle for experienced riders.

    There are clear disadvantages to a unicycle to but I figure some folks here might be interested anyhow. Because an unpowered unicycle has made such a good commuting vehicle for me I wouldn't be surprised if an electrical one is actually more practical than you'd expect.

    [if anyone wants to find out more, the rec.sport.unicycling newsground, also available as a forum http://unicyclist.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=3 will be able to answer your questions or you can just reply to me here - it's arguably even on topic!]

    1. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      "it requires a high degree of mental engagement but in a non-intellectual way."

      BING!
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    2. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Hatta · · Score: 1

      It's also a good attention grabber, if you like that sort of thing.

      That's exactly my problem with it. I can't go to the park and unicycle around without getting all sorts of attention I don't want. Yeah, it's anti-social, but I'd really rather get the same amount of attention a roller-blader or skate boarder gets. Same thing with juggling. I don't want to show off, I just like the zen state attained when focusing on nothing other than my body and a few objects.

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    3. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it's true. In the places I've ridden I've actually not found it too much of an issue - as long as you're riding *somewhere* people don't interrupt me. There's very little jeering here, most attention is positive if people notice at all. But where I live (Cambridge, UK), there are loads of bikes so people tend to filter out cyclists and sometimes don't notice me at all. I'm not even the only unicyclist commuter in town.

      I imagine there are places where riding a unicycle would be a lot more awkward. And if you don't like people staring at you anyhow it's a bit of a pain.

      Other advantage is that I have a couple of large wheeled unicycles that can go quite fast - I've hit 17mph in the past and that's not their maximum potential. People get just enough time to notice me and then I'm already gone.

    4. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They seem very expensive for what is less than half a normal bicycle.

    5. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Can you coast with one? It looks like most have a direct connection between the pedals and the wheel. And what about putting a basket on one to carry groceries? That's my main use of a bicycle, for few-mile grocery store trips.

    6. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

      You can't coast on a normal unicycle, no. There are occasional novelty unis with a coaster hub installed but the problem is that - whilst you can zoom down hills very quickly - they make balance much harder. Dare I say, they are an impractical form of unicycle ;-) Normal balancing on a unicycle relies on you being able to apply back pressure on the pedals to keep the unicycle under your centre of mass. Your balance has to be waaaaay better to ride without that.

      Putting a basket on one would be awkward also, I'm afraid. The falling off mechanic for a unicycle typically involves you landing on your feet (and, assuming you're not going faster than you can run!, probably running to a stop. Obviously that's still somewhat more injury-prone than a bike). The unicycle tends to bounce away at this point. They're robust so it doesn't matter to the cycle, you just wouldn't want your shopping on board at the time!

      Also, mounting stuff on your uni tends to alter the handling, which can be awkward. To carry stuff, I usually put it in (or strap it to) my rucksack. I've done shopping like this, or carried a smaller unicycle strapped to my back. You have to ride carefully within your limits, since if you fall and roll on the ground you'll squash your shopping. Once I was skilled, riding within my limits in this way wasn't a problem. It's trickier riding whilst carrying a load but you get used to it.

      I have also ridden back from the shops with carrier bags in one or, I think, both hands. The unicycle does have the advantage of freeing up your hands like this! You need to be very confident in your skills before you try that, though! And I did have the advantage of not sharing the road with cars.

    7. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

      It's true. I generally say they cost about half what a bike of /equivalent quality/ would cost. The unicycles on that page are higher quality ones.

      Look at the wheel sizes - a 36" wheel is ~10" wider than a standard bicycle wheel, so it's custom hardware rather than just a bike with bits removed. They often have aluminium rims to save weight, which pushes up the price. And tyres that size aren't common or cheap. There's potentially other stuff like the high quality / low weight materials in other parts. A 36" or even a 29" is for people who are serious about riding distances. I used to do a hundred miles in a month on my 36".

      A small unicycle is much cheaper and also easier to learn and do tricks on. A 20" wheel, like your stereotypical circus unicycle, can be had for much less. I got my first unicycle for the equivalent of about $60, although I fear it was probably made in a horrible 3rd world sweatshop. An advantage of unicycle.com is that they take some care over the welfare conditions in their factories and they don't sell junk, although cheaper unicycles are always going to be less robust. You can't commute on a 20", it's too slow unless you get an (extremely expensive!) hub gearing system.

    8. Re:Unicycles - quite a good urban vehicle by noidentity · · Score: 1

      Heh, just yesterday I saw a student unicycle by me as I walked to the bus stop. I don't think I've ever seen anyone using a unicycle for normal travel like that either. :)

  39. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't worry, I'm sure that when horses were first tamed someone bemoaned the loss of walking. I imagine the same thing happened when the carriage was invented, and the bicycle, and the automobile. Pretty girls will still walk, and when they don't they usually get fat, anyway.

    Nothing to worry about in that respect.

  40. Correct me if I'm wrong... by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 2, Insightful

    FTA: The single wheel on the U3-X is made up of many tiny motor-controlled wheels, packed inside the bigger wheel, allowing the device to swerve in any direction.

    Unicycle: A unicycle is a one-wheeled human-powered vehicle.

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  41. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by sopssa · · Score: 1, Informative

    Scandinavia. In increasing amounts girls are getting "a little round" because of McDonalds and other US shit, but theres still lots of nice blond girls around. Not obese, not skinny, but just the perfect :) Blond girls with ponytails, ah 3

  42. Honda's Segway by zorro-z · · Score: 1

    Wow, Honda's answer to the Segway. Because, obviously, the original Segway was such a runaway success.

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  43. Interesting technology by intermodal · · Score: 1

    but the idiocy of the application makes me wish for an electromagnetic pulse to turn the application interesting too. I already want to see Segway users faceplant (I saw a video once and loved it), and this isn't helping the situation.

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  44. Toyota i-Real by tomthegeek · · Score: 1

    From the title I thought TFA was about the Toyota i-Real. Way cooler, it's basically a powered arm chair.

  45. newest fetish porn sex machiine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lean back and ride, ride it!

  46. FInally! by geekoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Something I can sit on while using my treadmill~

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  47. Not a new thing by Eric+Smith · · Score: 2, Informative
    Trevor Blackwell has been riding around on a self-balancing motorized unicycle for years now. His web site even gives instructions for building your own.

    Amazing that Honda with its vast R&D and engineering resources is now able to produce something that one guy as a hobby built designed and built for himself years ago. Gosh, I'm really impressed. I'll have my broker buy me some Honda stock immediately.

    1. Re:Not a new thing by Kozz · · Score: 1

      Do you really think they look equivalent? I'd say Mr Blackwell's "eunicycle" is not exactly self-balancing in the same manner as this possible Honda product. Look at his arms out to his sides, constantly "assisting" the allegedly self-balancing device.

      Impressive, but not on the level of what Honda seems to have done. I suppose at the very least they'd have entirely different applications.

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    2. Re:Not a new thing by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      His doesn't balance sideways, only front and back. That's a wee bit of a difference, don't you think?

    3. Re:Not a new thing by dbug78 · · Score: 1

      There's also the eniCycle created by Alexander Polutnik.

    4. Re:Not a new thing by Eric+Smith · · Score: 1

      Ooh, revolutionary. "Trevor only built something that balances in one dimension, we can one-up that!" Of course they can build something slightly better; they have billions of dollars of revenue to throw around. I'm still not especially impressed.

    5. Re:Not a new thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your cynical-ness amazes me

      Honda has forever been a company of engineers playing around which also occasionally makes useful products like cars. Soichiro Honda was infamous for his drunken-ness and hanging out with Geisha girls. He was also a first rate engineer and was seriously into car racing which lead to Honda's car program. Honda also has never had a CEO who did not come from research.

      All of this means that while the company is very profitable, they also spend large amount of money on impractical research like Asimo or this new Unicycle (which they don't plan to market). Their earlier version of this was the ugly looking Walk Assist (http://corporate.honda.com/innovation/walk-assist/).

      If a company can have fun and not be 100% profit minded, more power to them I say.

    6. Re:Not a new thing by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 1

      Can his roll sideways?

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  48. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the hell? Go to the mall dude... you won't be disappointed.

  49. how does the seat work? by circletimessquare · · Score: 0

    notice the picture on the bottom left, the one with the handle bar

    now compare that to the top 3 pictures with the nice executive fellow sitting happily with his pelvic thrust forward

    i dunno, but i'm not sure the male prostate doubles as a seat cushion

    however, i am quite impressed with takanobusan's ability to tolerate pain and discomfort while smiling serenely

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  50. Answer? by FunkyELF · · Score: 1

    The segway was an answer for nothing itself.
    Now we have an answer to an answer to a question nobody was asking.

  51. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    God (or Mother Nature, if you wish), has even better answer to this stuff, it's called legs. Damn all those crappy substitutes.

  52. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Bicycles and roller blades give you a work out. Cars *have* contributed to the obesity epidemic. Obesity is inversely related to the availability of sidewalks in an area. Segways are too dorky to become popular enough to make a difference.

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  53. Typo by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Did you mean "popped a whale through the side"?

  54. Re:Creepy -- and SAD by oldspewey · · Score: 3, Funny

    The solution is to give in an AI, and give it the personality of a 2 or 3 year old toddler. Every couple blocks it will suddenly stop and scream "No! I don't want to go anymore! Carry me!". That way you'd get a nice mix of convenience and unplanned physical exercise.

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  55. Not Interested by eav · · Score: 1

    I'd rather have a powered trike that would do 40 mph for as long as I could pedal.

  56. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by StayFrosty · · Score: 1

    Scooters are probably easier because people can sit on them. Segways are too much work because you have to use your legs to stand.

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  57. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We're from Canada and last December we took a trip to Florida. We were all aghast at the huge number of fat slobs we saw there. And a lot of them were youngish (
    Many of them seemed proud, too, wearing big ol' USA shirts.

    What a huge difference a border makes.

  58. Sore ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like a personal hemorrhoid machine.

  59. mecanum wheel by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:mecanum wheel by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      No, Mecanum wheels require both a front and rear axle to move sideways. It's still a ridiculously clever idea though.

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    2. Re:mecanum wheel by aXis100 · · Score: 1

      Considering it's a unicycle, I dont think so. From wikipedia:

      "As well as moving forward and backward like conventional wheels, they allow sideways movement by spinning wheels on the front and rear axles in opposite directions."

  60. Steve Wozniak already wants one for polo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/hackaday/133696060/

  61. A company with a sense of humor... by midicase · · Score: 1

    Just read the FAQ: http://focusdesigns.com/faq/

    How fast does it go?

    An SBU falling vertically through the air will accelerate at an amazing rate of 32 feet per second per second until it reaches its terminal velocity of 193MPH. (We do not recommend traveling this fast.) On level ground and full charge we say it can go 10MPH depending on riders guts (mentally and physically).

    1. Re:A company with a sense of humor... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      Best. FAQ. Ever.

      How far can I go on a single charge?
      About 10 miles on a single charge, or forever if traveling vertically in a bottomless pit.

      The specifications look pretty nice too. Top speed 10mph and a one hour range.

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  62. Can we get a story link from somewhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The scantily-clad women in the sidebar make this story borderline NSFW, at least in the US.

    1. Re:Can we get a story link from somewhere else? by stjobe · · Score: 1

      Hahahahaha.... Hee... Hee... Hahahahahahaha...

      No really? NSFW? Hahahahahaha....

      What's WRONG with you guys?

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    2. Re:Can we get a story link from somewhere else? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus if the moron would just hit Google there are like a billion links to stories about this.

      Personally I think it's a little weird because people have been making this self-balancing unicycles for ages. Just a few weeks ago I saw some British thing where the guy was testing one of these out. A lot faster one in fact. I wish I could find the link but I have since lost it.

      Anyway, Honda does it and now it's some sort of miracle invention, lol... Really it's not that great in any design because you still need to balance. If you twist sideways then you're going to be doing a faceplant.

      Two wheel inline transporters (ie. bicycles, motocycles) are still the best design for small personal transportation. None of these other inventions come close even slightly close to the speed you get from from a regular bike.

  63. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The girls who need to ride something around instead of walking reasonable distances don't stay beautiful for long.

    Now, there's nothing quite like pretty girls in skirts riding bicycles.

  64. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where I live there is a disturbing number of scooters for the grossly obese

    This might be of interest to you, my friend...

  65. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by blhack · · Score: 1

    That being said, I would so use this. Can I get a comfortable computer chair version too, so I can get a beer easily (and one of those japanese beer serving machines please)

    This is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. Does this thing come with a manual on "Beer Caching Protocol" (BCP)? Because it looks EXTREMELY high latency.

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  66. Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 3, Informative

    "... an awesome office chair."

    Except, with the Honda vehicle, if there is a failure in the computer system, you die. But we Slashdot readers know that computer failures hardly ever happen, right?

    Segways made me appreciate bicycles. If you hit something large, like a rock, it's possible you will be carried over it. Bicycles have no computer system to fail, and they are inexpensive.

    I rode a Segway. It had a RISK OF DEATH (all caps) label.

    My experience of that article about Honda is that it says to me, "Buy a Toyota. That company concentrates on doing one thing well." I recently bought a Toyota because Consumer Reports said Hondas had automatic transmission problems.

    1. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Salamande · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hate to break it to you, but Toyota does robotics, as well. Most heavy industries do at least a bit of this stuff, especially in Japan.

    2. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by slamb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Except, with the Honda vehicle, if there is a failure in the computer system, you die. ... I rode a Segway. It had a RISK OF DEATH (all caps) label.

      If the bicycle were invented today, it would come with that label. We live in a society that is increasingly litigious and risk-averse. These both apply more for newer and higher-tech things - more so for commercial airplanes than cars, in spite of their relative risks.

      People don't usually die in {bicycle,Segway,Honda thing} crashes, but they do sometimes, and for a new device, that's enough that its creators usually fear lawsuits without that label. These things might be a bit silly and overpriced, but they're not dangerous no matter what the stupid sticker says.

    3. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by BoofBaf · · Score: 1

      Honda is really not that different from Toyota. Every manufacturer has cars that have X problems especially when launching a new technology, line or integration.

    4. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Stevecrox · · Score: 2, Informative

      You think thats bad I bought a Bicycle Helmet from Tesco's and that had a "Risk of Danger" sticker on the box.

    5. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by tmosley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Rubber duckies have "RISK OF DEATH" labels on them now too. All thanks to kindly Nannie State.

      Regulations force a climate of CYA to the point of crying wolf all day every day. A vehicle that travels at 3.7 miles an hour IS NOT DANGEROUS. AT ALL.

    6. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Unless you're a snail in its path.

    7. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Rogerborg · · Score: 4, Funny

      That sticker is really big. I bet a child could easily pry it off and choke on it.

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    8. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by pease1 · · Score: 1
      It had a RISK OF DEATH

      Yeah, and the last step ladder I bought had about 12 of these warnings on it and ladders don't even move.

    9. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Dare+nMc · · Score: 1

      at 3.5 MPH (a fast walking pace), I would say the risk of death from this is exactly the same (or less) than tripping while walking. Having rode a unicycle a bit, when it gets stuck on something, you tip forward, you naturally step forward and catch your self. Not having feet involved in another action (powering a unicycle, standing on a Segway) Should make this much easier to catch your self. The Segway also has stuff in front of you to trip you up, and you supporting your weight with your feet, so you cant just swing your feet in front on the way down in the same way. Although riding the Segway with bent knees (as with this) would allow you to jump to catch yourself, that would get tiring while supporting your weight for anytime on the Segway.

      Although I hope no one is riding these at 3.5 mph backwards, or sideways. That would seam dangerous for many reasons.

    10. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're a moron

    11. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by hawk · · Score: 1

      Not the least of which being the wheel spinning sideways, instead of in the plane perpendicular to its axle . . . :)

      hawk

    12. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should put one of those on your front door so that you know leaving the house isn't entirely safe. One above your bed so you are reminded both before you sleep and as soon as you wake up. In fact perhaps they should put a label like that in the womb. It's been solidly proven that life has a 100% death rate.

    13. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      Rubber duckies have "RISK OF DEATH" labels on them now too. All thanks to kindly Nannie State.

      Sure, sure, keep blaming the "Nannie" state. God forbid we point any fingers at the kind innocent people known as, what was that word again? Oh yes, the electorate.

      Step 1. Stop being retards.
      Step 2. Stop electing retards.

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    14. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      Except, with the Honda vehicle, if there is a failure in the computer system, you die. ... I rode a Segway. It had a RISK OF DEATH (all caps) label.

      If the bicycle were invented today, it would come with that label. We live in a society that is increasingly litigious and risk-averse. These both apply more for newer and higher-tech things - more so for commercial airplanes than cars, in spite of their relative risks.

      I went to Coles today(Australian supermarket) to buy my wife a hot water bottle as it gets quite cold here at night. Unfortunately, I was unable to purchase one at Coles as they are a dangerous and hazardous product(so was explained to me). I asked if the risk of choking on food was something they should take into account but the checkout girl looked at me like I was a dumb arse and then used her register to calculate my change on a 20c box of matches (I had given her a 50c piece).

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    15. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      then used her register to calculate my change on a 20c box of matches (I had given her a 50c piece).

      That's how checkouts work these days, every transaction has to pass though the till.

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    16. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      it was the product I was buying as well. I had a job many years ago where I used a register and you could do the change yourself. i found that quicker and easier. i should have realised that they were now chained into the full process. But still Hot water bottles are hazardous and matches are till 20c

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    17. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      The hot water bottle is a joke. The problem is the knee-jerk assholes higher up who don't seem to live in the same world as the rest of us.

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    18. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      What gets me is they seem so determined to protect us from everything. We have no fireworks any more because they decided to legislate as if we were all like the morons who demonstrated to their friends just how cool they were because they braved closing their fists around lit bungers(small explosive). I have recently read about high altitude cameras on balloons on various sites and decided that I would get my nephew an 'AstroCam' model rocket like the one I had when I was a kid. I went to a model/hobby shop expecting a simple transaction and that we could fly it on the weekend. I have discovered that I am unable to do this as I don't have a firearms license! Can you believe I need a gun license to fly a toy rocket? (note: a license for just an air rifle here involves hundreds of dollars and many hours of training in a special college course) Now I am wondering if I should just build my own in the toolshed but make it a real kick-arse rocket that will hit ten thousand feet plus. If I do then I risk up to five years in gaol. The nanny state is really really really pissing me off.

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    19. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      I had an object wedge itself in between my bicycle's front fender and the wheel, stopping it instantly while I was at speed and essentially throwing me to the pavement. In the middle of an intersection.

      Going off road once I hit a log hidden in some high grass. If you know anything about momentum...the bike stopped, I didn't. Next thing I knew I was on my back on the ground, wondering how I got there. Two feet to the left was a ragged stump that could just as easily have been sticking up out of my abdomen had I landed there.

      Then there's the fact that bikes are sharing the road with 1+ ton automobiles going 3-10 times their speed which don't expect them to be there at all and which they are essentially helpless to avoid should something go wrong. I'm sorry I don't have a personal anectdote on this one; the people that do are dead.

      I don't know where this idea got around that bicycles are particularly safe, but do know it wasn't from experience.

      A software failure at 3MPH isn't exactly high on my list of worries.

    20. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      >Unfortunately, I was unable to purchase one at Coles as they are a dangerous and hazardous product(so was explained to me).

      It's not clear whether they had one but would not sell it to you, or whether they didn't have one at all but you still wanted to buy it there.

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    21. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      I have always been a big supporter of Natural Selection. Protecting people from their own stupidity is damaging the human gene pool.

      Forget global warming and nuclear holocaust, it is stupidity via abolishment of Natural Selection that will end our species.

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    22. Re:Yes, but where is the "RISK OF DEATH" label? by uninformedLuddite · · Score: 1

      I think that it should be fairly obvious

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  67. Thank GOD by VisiX · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Segway finally has some competition. I was getting tired of seeing Segways all over the place.

  68. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I simply *sigh* at the more "electrifying" of the world we keep doing. Why not, lets keep finding ways to burn fuels to do relatively simple things.

  69. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by GigG · · Score: 1

    And Medicade pays for those scooters and won't pay for a Segway.

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  70. Does not work with chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No chrome support. I'm directed to the Firefox "Download a better browser" page.

  71. Clowntech by aapold · · Score: 1

    I really wish Clowntech had pursued mass-condensing technology to fit more people inside a small car instead...

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  72. South Park here we come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thing reminds me of the vehicle Mr Garrison created that was "Better than airports"....

  73. Seat design (possible perennial damage) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    As a long-term cyclist (specifically bicyclist, for you rice rocket fans out there), I see the design of this product as a great mistake. And before anyone comments: yes, I did watch the video, which due to camera filming angle is simply not revealing enough about the seat design to wean my concern. That said...

    Don't laugh -- the chance of pudendal nerve entrapment looks to be incredibly high with this kind of design. Women should be worried about urological complications, and men should be worried about impotency. UTIs are likely to increase with this kind of design too. Yes really.

    Any long-term cyclist, or doctor for that matter, can tell you that a decent saddle (seat) absolutely requires the perennial area be cut out/removed completely. The common saddle today has a recessed area (which does not help relieve pressure -- don't let anyone tell you otherwise), and many are still flat. The proper solution is to cut away the entire perennial area of the saddle, resulting in a literal a hole in the saddle. This ensures the arteries and nerves in your no-no spots don't get squashed. Some saddles consist of two cushions where your buttocks go with nothing in between, which works equally as well -- and the design of Honda's product (based on the video) may use this design, but it looks as if one's crotch literally rests on a fulcrum point of some kind.

    This may be TMI for some, but I speak from experience. In 2004 I started experiencing signs of perennial damage -- specifically, occasional sharp pains which originated in the perennial or anal area and shot through my body like a knife (commonly a sign of PNE). Urination also became complex (specifically minor overflow incontinence). It got worse over the course of 4-5 months. As a computer geek the first thing I did was replace my home and work seating (where I spent the majority of my time) -- no difference. At the 6 month mark I, despite the embarrassment, saw my doctor who immediately said "Aren't you a cyclist? Replace your saddle immediately. Buy one with the perennial area completely cut out -- not receded". I did as instructed and within a few weeks: no more pain. The incontinence problem resides, indicating there was some permanent damage (probably the detrusor muscle), but only on rare occasion. And thankfully there were no sexual side effects. :P

    I realise this device will probably not be used for long rides / rides over long distances, but given its slow rate of movement, rides would be longer than that of, say, a Segway, electric scooter, bicycle or similar device. Consider the implications of someone using one of these devices multiple times a day to get to work -- say, a distance of 2 miles round-trip.

    Honda should consider the risks involved with what they've created. Fix the design now to ensure no class-action lawsuits down the road.

    1. Re:Seat design (possible perennial damage) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do know what prototypes and concept designs are, right? They don't even have plans to sell any at the moment. How about we also go on about the complete lack of reflectors at this stage, too?

    2. Re:Seat design (possible perennial damage) by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Some saddles consist of two cushions where your buttocks go with nothing in between, which works equally as well

      This is what the Honda uses, and can be clearly seen when the saddle is deployed about 75% of the way through the video.

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    3. Re:Seat design (possible perennial damage) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any long-term cyclist, or doctor for that matter, can tell you that a decent saddle (seat) absolutely requires the perennial area be cut out/removed completely.

      As you so eloquently demonstrate, it's anything but. Spelling apart, to me it seems that you only rest on your buttocks on this machine. It has two, so to say, cheek cups, not a saddle.

  74. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by A+coward+on+a+mouse · · Score: 1

    Also, Segways require you to stand upright. Do you really think the scooter jockeys would be willing to stand up, even if the Segway cost the same as their nice comfy electric armchairs on wheels?

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  75. Another YikeBike. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  76. RISK OF DEATH by wsanders · · Score: 1

    After parsing your post a second time, yes, Segways are mighty unstable. It's not as easy as it looks. Run over anything bigger than a tennis ball with one of the wheels, and you will get tossed forward or sideways headfirst. But it looks like a wipeout with the Honda device results in a spill similar to having a chair pulled out from under you - still a good way to hurt yourself but at least you fall ass first and not sideways or forwards from a standing height.

    The most common Segway wipeouts seem to be exactly that - underestimating the width of the machine and hanging one wheel up on a sidewalk crack or obstacle. The machine usually does a very quick zero-radius 180 but sometimes it will tip over.

    For what it's worth Segway provides you with three keys to the device. Each key has a progressively higher speed limit programmed into it. You power up with the Black Key of Death at your own peril.

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    1. Re:RISK OF DEATH by aurispector · · Score: 1, Insightful

      The basic question is this: why bother with these things? So mall cops don't have to do any actual walking? Total waste of time.

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    2. Re:RISK OF DEATH by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      smaller and more portable than a mobility scooter, I could see these being popular for those with limited mobility especially since you can easily throw it in the trunk of any car and stores could easily keep a dozen of these around in the same space only two mobility scooters currently occupy.

      But at a max speed of 3.7mph, and thats probably if you weigh 120 lbs, I don't think I'd ever bother with one unless I had a serious leg injury.

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    3. Re:RISK OF DEATH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have you seen mobility scooters in action? Commercials always
      show kindly elderly folks getting their lives back, but in reality
      it is mostly ridiculously large people of younger years that are
      plopped all over them, I doubt that little thing is capable of handling
      a 300 pound oaf on it, and if it does i doubt the oaf would find
      it comfortable

    4. Re:RISK OF DEATH by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      Oh god that's a horrible image, you'd never be able to pull one of those out again after a 300lb hambeast sat on it.

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    5. Re:RISK OF DEATH by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      The basic question is this: why bother with these things? So mall cops don't have to do any actual walking? Total waste of time.

      Ah, the old /. staple reply. "I won't find it useful, so I don't see why anybody else will find it useful either." Throw in a total failure to RTFA (which mentions how Japan has a rapidly aging population and there are concerns about how to help the elderly to get around) and the perfect storm of ignorance is complete.

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    6. Re:RISK OF DEATH by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you believe that 300 pound oafs should walk instead of using something intended for the infirmitied (?), then you must be a supporter of this invention. I cannot imagine a 300 pound oaf riding on one of these things and not basically engulfing it, whereas an old person would have no such difficulties.

  77. Two problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. It looks like it's stuck up his ass.
    2. Look at how close his feet are to the ground. I can't wait to hear reports of broken toes.

  78. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

    Communities where persons have been completely dependent on cars from childhood to old age have existed for much longer than the obesity epidemic. Cars do not seem to be a major stimulus (though they certainly do contribute).

    While "correlation is not causation" and all that, there is a strong correlation between the increased use of high fructose corn syrup and the increase in obesity in the USA. If other countries that control HFCS usage also show an increase in obesity, then clearly this would not be significant. But in the American diet, everything from cola to pickles contains serious amounts of HFCS unless one is very careful about reading labels and avoiding it.

    Or maybe I'm just letting the way that Monsanto keeps gathering in government subsidies as it ruins economies and ecosystems bias my view.

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  79. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by CDS · · Score: 1

    Why do I keep thinking of the "hoverchairs" from Wall-E ... and the resulting balloons of blubber everybody turned into whenever I see articles like this???

  80. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Ash+Vince · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, I'm sure that when horses were first tamed someone bemoaned the loss of walking. I imagine the same thing happened when the carriage was invented, and the bicycle, and the automobile. Pretty girls will still walk, and when they don't they usually get fat, anyway.

    Of course the difference there is that riding a horse is actually quite hard work. It is pretty easy if the horse is at a gallop, but they cannot gallop all the time so you have to learn how to sit on a horse while it trots. This kills your thighs because you have to use your legs as suspension.

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  81. Re:Creepy -- and SAD by harlows_monkeys · · Score: 1

    Plenty of people who aren't fat have trouble getting around on their feet. Many old people, for example--and they make up a large and increasing fraction of the Japanese population.

  82. One look at those pictures... by Snarkalicious · · Score: 1

    made me want to boot that guy in the cubes. That thing makes you look like even more of tool than the dip next to you on the Segway.

  83. I'd be screwed. by Kazlor · · Score: 1

    I'm one of those folks that had to have a spinal fusion surgery due to an injury at work. One of the side effects of it I have found is my balance now is HORRIBLE. I can be standing at the kitchen sink, doing dishes, and nearly fall on my side because my body suddenly decides which way is up. As cool, or helpful, or intriguing as any of these machines might be, I know for one, the day I sat on one, I'd put my head through a damned wall because it interpreted me trying to regain my balance and I'd wind up getting bucked off, even with such a low speed on that thing (Murphy hates me). Not to mention, that thing would anger my back worse than sitting on the floor does already.

    1. Re:I'd be screwed. by yurtinus · · Score: 1

      OK, fine, I get it already. I'll remove you from the Unicyclists Weekly newsletter. You know it's easier to just hit "unsubscribe" than to keep posting these comments on slashdot...

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  84. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by MarkGriz · · Score: 1

    Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass.

    ... at least until The Matrix comes along.

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  85. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And Medicaid overpays for those scooters and won't pay for a Segway.

    There, fixed that for ya

  86. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yech... you could have at least included a "Not Safe For Humans" note on that link.

    I can't imagine being a lawyer the the "scooting justice's" courtroom. I'm afraid I'd be unable to treat a judge with much respect if she obviously can't figure out that there's a relation between what goes in the mouth and how fat one gets. I wonder if she munches on Twinkies during court.

  87. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Threni · · Score: 1

    > Pretty girls will still walk, and when they don't they usually get fat, anyway.

    And this thing'll let you whizz past all the fat ones in search of the attractive ones.

  88. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by xaxa · · Score: 1

    Communities where persons have been completely dependent on cars from childhood to old age have existed for much longer than the obesity epidemic. Cars do not seem to be a major stimulus (though they certainly do contribute).

    I think it took time for the effects to materialise, and for the number of people affected by them to become significant.

    In this country (UK), it was unusual for a child to be taken to school by car in the 1980s, but by the end of the 1990s it was completely normal.
    That, kids' TV, video games and a worse diet are the main factors behind childhood obesity.

    The least-obese area in the UK is London. London has the least people who drive to work, a result of having the best public transport and the most walkable communities.

    But in the American diet, everything from cola to pickles contains serious amounts of HFCS unless one is very careful about reading labels and avoiding it.

    In the UK plain old sugar is much more common than HFCS. Obesity isn't as bad as the USA, but is worse than anywhere else in Europe.

  89. Stone Age Tech... by jameskojiro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just read the comic B.C.

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  90. it's like a wheelchair for by bitt3n · · Score: 1

    the mentally handicapped

  91. Coordinationally Challenged by blg42 · · Score: 1

    Geez! I'm too coordinationally challenged for something like that. Seriously, I can only walk and chew gum 2 out of 3 attempts. Admittedly those around me find that third attempt highly entertaining...

  92. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by AliasTheRoot · · Score: 1

    "The least-obese area in the UK is London. London has the least people who drive to work, a result of having the best public transport and the most walkable communities."

    Is the ONLY thing that differentiates London and the rest of the UK? The highest per capita income is not relevant?

  93. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Evil+Shabazz · · Score: 1

    that was my first thought... an awesome office chair. Second thought was that it will work some muscles that aren't normally used.. with all that leaning moving and stuff...

    Yeah, maybe using one of these might allow a person to work off their love-handles. ;) However, as an office chair - they'd definitely have to add a backrest and arm-rests. With just the fanny-pad, I and the awkward way of half-sitting, I can't see the demo-product being very comfortable for any real length of time. Even the guys demo'ing the product in the video didn't look like they were terribly sure of their balance or comfort. But whether this product can actually find a practical use in the world - you can be certain some of the new technology used to make it work will find it's way into other stuff.

    And to the GP's thoughts about this being a reality of the future where people don't walk anymore - I don't know. You probably will see a very large number of the already fat and lazy migrating to being even more fat and lazy, and I think you'd also see the health-conscious continue to be health conscious. I can tell you which group of girls' legs I'd rather see walking down the street today, or in future. ;)

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  94. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by sohare · · Score: 1

    Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass. Sooner or later this will be reality, in a bad and a good way. While convenience is nice, it has bad sides too.

    That being said, I would so use this. Can I get a comfortable computer chair version too, so I can get a beer easily (and one of those japanese beer serving machines please )

    Are you really so sure that sooner or later this technology will be ubiquitous? Is this the same reality in which every single person has a flying car? The fact is that in very dense urban centers walking is and will probably remain the preferred method of travel. You can still move around and travel in a tightly packed crowd. On the other hand all the free-moving vehicles humans have thus far devised require some measure of space to operate. I think what we'll see more of are automated systems of travel, like the moving walkways you see in many airports. But even these will always remain relatively expensive compared to a concrete sidewalk.

  95. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by sohare · · Score: 1

    Don't worry, I'm sure that when horses were first tamed someone bemoaned the loss of walking. I imagine the same thing happened when the carriage was invented, and the bicycle, and the automobile.

    Nothing to worry about in that respect.

    A good point, but the original bicycles actually were seen as a device that would only increase the health and mobility of the populace.

  96. Silence is golden... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I watched a demo of this thing on Youtube, and I have to say, one of the more obvious problems I foresee is that it makes a horrible high pitched sound, and I can only imagine that the sound of a handfull of them going around the office, store, or just anywhere would get real old seriously fast!

  97. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets be happy that we're probably the last generation that can watch how the beautiful girls walk on street in their red dresses and nice legs and ass. Sooner or later this will be reality, in a bad and a good way. While convenience is nice, it has bad sides too.

    If we reintroduce cobble stone foot paths I'm sure we can put some bounce into the ride.

  98. Climb stairs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Can it climb stairs?

  99. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Ocker3 · · Score: 1

    my girlfriend looks so hot riding a bicycle, it's hazardous to my ability to ride along with her. I think it's at least partly because it reminds me of cute, fresh young ladies riding bicycles in movies and laughing. And the posture is just so sexy!

  100. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by imboboage0 · · Score: 1

    Except maybe pretty girls in nothing riding bicycles. =P

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  101. How to render the U3-X obsolete. by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    BAM! SECOND WHEEL

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  102. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by clampolo · · Score: 1

    an awesome office chair

    Am i the only one noticing the painful wedgie that thing makes? It is practically inside the guy.

  103. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by WallaceAndGromit · · Score: 1

    Except maybe pretty girls in nothing riding bicycles. =P

    Only a slashdotter would finish that sentence with the word bicycles.

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  104. Different marketing strategy from Segway. by Spety · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Dean Kamen, the inventor of the Segway, had invented a wheelchair that was capable of climbing up stairs. The problem was, the wheelchair was too expensive to start to produce because of the small quantities of unique parts needed at first. So Kamen wanted to come up with something that A) was made from the same parts of the wheelchair and B) he could sell for a lot of money, thereby driving the price of the wheelchair down. That's how the Segway was born. People give Kamen a lot of crap for the lack of success of the Segway to revolutionize transportation, but that was never it's goal, it was just a high priced item to be sold to a niche market so that the price of a more useful humanitarian item could be driven down.

  105. WALL-E by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    Its coming to a town near you.

    I could see these devices for the elderly, but the simple matter is we keep enabling fatties and wondering why we have an obesity problem.

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  106. mobile factory floor robots by DotDotSlashDot · · Score: 1

    It doesn't take much speed for an easily re-positionable factory-worker robot to be demonstrably more effective than a stationary robot for many simple tasks outside the reach of the stationary robot. Being slightly slower than a healthy human's capability to dodge harm is advantageous as well. This is a shrewd development for a large manufacturing entity that desperately needs economic agility. A workforce like this could be fabulously competitive. It could release many souls from a life of menial labor and foster effective learning and dreaming. Look at humanity. Our greatest potential remains to be realized. Unemployment statistics are a bad joke. Humanity is over-employed through artificial economics. Because of this, many noble things remain undone.

  107. Hmm, is there a connection? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

    Perhaps we'd best be sure this is commonplace before making lithium-ion battery powered seats...

  108. Yes, but: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it have V-TEC?

    And can it KICK IN, YO?

  109. i still don't by memnock · · Score: 1

    understand the point to these things. Segway or what, why can't people use their legs? isn't part of the obesity epidemic the lack of exercise for those involved? how is making it easier for people to not even WALK supposed to be an advantage or boon? half the people who use motorized chairs now probably shouldn't have started using them to start with.

    besides, with a Segway, you're standing up to use. are you so lazy that you can't move your legs while they're supporting your weight?

  110. UNO by Cyko_01 · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet. The UNO was featured on daily planet about a year ago. It was featured as one of popular science's top ten inventions.

    They didn't invent it! they ripped off some 19yo's idea

    1. Re:UNO by Jake+Griffin · · Score: 1

      I was going to say the same thing. And it looks WAY cooler too! Here is a link to an article about it (yea, it's on a "Tree Hugger" site... it was the first one I found) with a pictures of it with the 19-year-old inventor. He was also on one of those "Shark Tank" shows where he got investors to give him, IIRC, 14 million dollars for a 20% share in his company.

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  111. perineal, not perennial by gobbo · · Score: 1

    Just to clarify, the parent meant the perineum, the area between genitals and anus, and misspelled perineal. At least I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to refer to plants which bloom year after year (perennials).

    Also, I've lived on a bike on cross-continental rides, and he's right, the wrong saddle is more than just a pain in the ass.

  112. You keep using that word. by deprecated · · Score: 1

    I do not think it means what you think it means. Perineal, not perennial. And 500 words about crotch-crushing from a non-defect in a prototype that is not going to be mass-produced?

  113. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by partypants69 · · Score: 1

    Actually, according to the Theiss Titillation Theory, completely nude women would actually be less appealing.

  114. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Where I live there is a disturbing number of scooters for the grossly obese

    You don't know their full story. Maybe they can't walk, and that's largely why they are obese.
         

  115. Hmmm... I think I've seen one of these somewhere. by Niznaika · · Score: 0

    Funny how inovation goes: I saw a video of a similar thing a couple of monhts back . Not as shiny as the Honda one, but still a nice achievement from a guy in his garage.

  116. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by crimperman · · Score: 1

    > Why do I keep thinking of the "hoverchairs" from Wall-E ... and the resulting balloons of blubber everybody turned into whenever I see articles like this???

    Perhaps because in this case there was a photo of a scene from Wall-E included in the article?

  117. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should come and live in Sweden then.

  118. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Dan541 · · Score: 1

    Communities where persons have been completely dependent on cars from childhood to old age have existed for much longer than the obesity epidemic. Cars do not seem to be a major stimulus (though they certainly do contribute).

    Cars are for covering distance, scooters are a replacement for walking whereas a car is a replacement for horse drawn wagons.

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  119. The label is correct. There is a serious risk. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    From the comment above, titled RISK OF DEATH: "Segways are mighty unstable. It's not as easy as it looks. Run over anything bigger than a tennis ball with one of the wheels, and you will get tossed forward or sideways headfirst."

    There is a serious risk. If you aren't wearing a helmet, you could die from hitting your head on the pavement. The reason helmets are required by law is that a small blow to the head can kill. The labels warn about that, but apparently not enough to get people to actually understand, considering some of the comments below.

  120. Useful applications? by Lemming+Mark · · Score: 1

    I had a conversation with a friend along the lines of:

    Me: "And they used technology from their little robot man, so it's not like that was entirely useless!"
    Friend: "Well, given they used it to make a unicycle ..."

  121. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Whorhay · · Score: 1

    That's partially true I think. The real problem is that people lose the ability to walk on their own and then don't alter their eating habits and so start putting on lots of weight. Even if they do cut back once they realize what's going on they don't have a way to work off the excess and would have to rely on under eating to get rid of the extra. And when you do that it's way to easy to push your body too far and it'll start hoarding fats.

  122. Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...or do you have a Segway shoved up your ass?

  123. IMO by meerling · · Score: 1

    I think it looks ugly, dorky, and rather uncomfortable.
    No thanks, guess I'll wait for hoverchairs or something...

  124. For the anti-Imperialists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    3.7 miles/h = 1.7 m/s = 6.0 km/h
    Walking speed.

  125. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by esmdr · · Score: 1

    Not everywhere. According to an (unverified) anecdote, an african tribal elder after first seeing a bicycle commented "The white men are so lazy that they want to sit down even when they walk".

  126. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's true. Last time I saw a naked girl riding a bicycle she was covered head to toe in body paint. I've never seen a more beautiful thing.

  127. Solution by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Make a segway-like vehicle that can do halfpipe tricks / go airborne / go fast.

    People will buy those.

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  128. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Yes, it was like the time I visited Rome, and realized that Americans weren't the only people in the world with a visibly prevalent proportion of morbidly obese people, including the fattest woman I have ever seen in my life.

    I spent some time in BC a couple of years ago and realized that a lot of Canadians are also fat.

    So I've stopped accepting the premise that it's only "Americans" who are fat.

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  129. Re:Good and bad, computer chair version and some b by bandmassa · · Score: 1

    I can't help feeling people will hate these as much as Segways for the same reason - they make you look like a tosser. I mean, what's with the bent knees, legs spread posture? Please! This won't switch me from my bicycle yet.

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