The US Government is on the verge of nationalizing 3 failing automakers and you're concerned with how fast you can boot windows? Seriously? The failed financial bailout may cause the US government to declare bankruptcy and you care about this shit? Get some priorities!
Okay, fine, instead of considering product purchases that would fix the economy, I'm going to take your advice and worry about the gubment bailing companies out.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
THey're spending monEeeez to bail them outz!!!!
I'm so nervous! Worry worry worry worry worry!!!
Oh noes!!! Waaahhhh!!!1111
Wow, I see your point, that was so much more worthwhile than what I was doing before I read your post.
Yeah I get what you're saying. My take on it is a bit different, though. I think Palin herself brought too many sound-bites to the table. The media sure loves those.
I've heard that in the UK campaign money isn't allowed to be used for television. I'd really love to hear somebody describe what's that like.
Okay, you win. I don't have hard numbers here. What I do have is the number from the post I replied to that shows McCain wasn't very far behind Obama in the number of stories printed. I also have a clear memory of just how much newsworthy content Palin was generating, leaving poor Mr. Biden in the dust. For at least a couple of months, nothing but Palin Palin Palin.
So yes, you're right, I don't have a source to cite. However, if you can show me that McCain + Palin still had fewer stories printed than Obama, I'll show a surprised look that would impress even Macaulay Culkin.
Meanwhile, McCain's 786 stories equates to just over 2 stories every day for a year.
Compared to Obama's 946 which equates to... just over 2 stories every day for a year.
But every THIRD day, Obama would get THREE stories and McCain would only get TWO stories.
Yeah, and you're going to complain about the press "favored" Obama?
I'm going to stir the pot here and mention that Palin stories were neglected from their count. Look at it that way and McCain's campaign received a lot more coverage.
I'm having a boring day, but am now looking forward to reading the excuses from the apple haters. bring on the comedy gold!
Go back a little further and you'll find a story about the Google Android platform having an exploit. Not only will you find a boo-boo so dumb that Microsoft would point and laugh, but you'll also find modded up comments claiming that it demonstrates how good the platform is. That topic's far more entertaining than this one.
What is considered a malfunction? And perhaps having the latest and greatest object of the year inspires people to treat the phone with a little more care
What's different between the two phones? Does the lack of a keyboard make the hardware simple enough to have a higher success rate? Does that make it more difficult for people to break?
If the computer player and I are the same species, we should have the same limitations. Why should the computer player be able to do more stuff than a human player?
Compensation for lack of good AI. Usually the reason for lack of good AI is processing power, but I cannot tell you first hand how true that is.
Look at how many Americans died because of Bin Laden's orders. Roughly 3000.
Small nitpick: Though it's true only 3,000 people died on September 11th, there were over 17,000 people in the towers at the time of impact. That doesn't include the intentions of the other two targets.
Seeing how far removed some of those figures are from reality, you'd probably have to teach them what a download is, let alone how to download something.
Some people should release some 'copyrighted' material they created then lure some of the political figures to download it. Once a couple of people get banned from the net, that law will disappear quickly.
Slashdot is getting more FUD and hate-articles lately, might that be? First announcing something bad about a company, practically begging for hating/dissociating posts, then clearing it with articles like this? At least we discussed... very insightful. I used to like posts that point out the FUD about companies and poke at flaws and inaccuracy in articles, evidence and arguments.
This topic earlier In between: Have we discussed how awesome the new Ubuntu is often enough?
Mod this troll.
Granted, he did ask that his post be modded troll, but it really isn't. Perhaps he picked a poor example. Here's another.
From the summary:
The folks at O'Reilly Media aren't immune, so they set out to discover just what is it about iPhones that makes them such bad RF citizens.
Cute. Lots of phones are 'bad RF citizens', but gee, this sounds like the iPhone is special in this regard, right? More from the summary:
The iPhones aren't the only bad apples in the cell phone basket and there's not much you can do about the problem.
So... lots of cell phones create RF interference in some devices. Did that make article make it to Slashdot because of the interesting topic of RF interferrence, or did the line about the iPhone not being a good RF citizen cause it to be approved? Did both of the Opera stories make it without the words "Apple rejected..."?
It's fashionable to smack Apple around, but seriously, it's not like the AC was wrong.
You're very obviously trolling, and I have no interest in taking the bait. You've refused to answer questions, and I'm pretty much done with you.
Yes, if I were trolling, that'd let you off the hook pretty easily. I'm not the same guy you were talking to, I have not refused any of your questions.
Your logic can be blown away by simply looking at what you're describing. Either you pirate every game with DRM (every single major title, and most smaller titles) or you financially support good games that have minimalistic DRM.
I said I don't agree with you, I didn't say I agree with him. What I did say is that you are supporting the continued growth and usage of restrictions like DRM. Customers are getting pissed off, companies are listening.
Don't try to suggest that companies will just abandon copy protection before they go bankrupt.
Every restriction they add to a game lowers the value of it. Lower the value enough, and people won't play. It's as simple as that.
Copy protection has been around as long as PC games (anyone remember the code wheels with Starflight?), and yet all my favorite game shops went bankrupt.
Right. The protection didn't protect them. And you got the benefit of being annoyed by the code wheels.
There is a reason console development is more popular than PC development despite a higher install base of PC users, and that is piracy.
Actually, no, it's not. Piracy has little, if anything, to do with it. Consoles have a large base of dedicated gamers. They have a single platform to run on, which simplifies development. You pay the parent company, be it Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, and they get it published for you provided you meet their guidelines. A few years ago I talked to somebody working for a game publisher and they said a successful PC game was 100,000 copies sold. A successful console company was 400k sold. In the latter case, it wasn't all that uncommon for a console game to sell a million copies. Consoles would be the bar-none winner, but there are a few drawbacks. First is that you have to get that license from the parent company, and they can refuse you for a ton of reasons. It could be too much violence or not being part of their demographic or whatever. Second is that it is expensive, which is why you rarely get small companies working on console games. PCs don't have those restrictions so it's significantly easier to get a game onto shelves. Third is that Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony make decisions about what they publish based on what they want/need and when they can get it. That's an extra level of annoyance that makes commitments to these companies a pain in the rear.
Piracy has had a noted negative impact on PC gaming.
Piracy has a percieved negative impact on PC gaming. It has never actually been proven. However, any business man will tell you that making your product less interesting will not increase its sales.
I choose to vote with my wallet to hopefully preserve PC gaming.
Thank you for supporting restrictions that will eventually lead these games to be no more than $50 game rentals.
People like SanityInAnarchy bitch about what they want, but if you never support things financially, then no one cares. I watched major PC game development houses fold one after the other, and suddenly I realized that if I want these products to continue, then I need to purchase them.
Ah, but here's the fun part: You're financially supporting their decision to intentionally make these games defective. Look at EA. Big successful company, right? What do they do when they make a highly anticipated game? They use a restriction system that even Microsoft isn't bold enough to implement with Windows. So what happens? The game gets pirated anyway, lots of people bitch, and they end up reducing the severity of the restrictions.
I don't agree with your point of view. Not because I want to get games for free, but because I want to purchase games and enjoy them. I have heaps of hard-drive space. One of the things I routinely do when I purchase apps is to copy the installs to my HD. When I rebuild, I can reinstall them without having a mountain of discs to sift through. Heck, you should see how often I raid PortableApps.com to simplify things even further. I don't even need to install then, just copy. I can't do that with most of my games. One time I even managed to scratch one of my discs. Oops, it happens. I tried to copy a friend of mine's, but it got complicated real quick. I called the company about getting a replacement disc, they wanted $25. Grr. I ended up buying a $10 used copy to finish it. Of course, with the implementation EA used on Spore, if that becomes a thing of the future, used games will become a thing of the past. It didn't get this far, but 'piracy' would have been my last resort. My download would have been counted as a lost sale even though I had paid full price for this game the day it was released. Cute.
You can accuse people of thievery all you want, but reality is nowhere near as black and white as you're making it out to be. You as a legitimate customer should not get burned. That's the important bit of the discussion. Ignore it and you'll never reach resolution.
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The US Government is on the verge of nationalizing 3 failing automakers and you're concerned with how fast you can boot windows? Seriously? The failed
financial bailout may cause the US government to declare bankruptcy and you care about this shit? Get some priorities!
Okay, fine, instead of considering product purchases that would fix the economy, I'm going to take your advice and worry about the gubment bailing companies out.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!
THey're spending monEeeez to bail them outz!!!!
I'm so nervous! Worry worry worry worry worry!!!
Oh noes!!! Waaahhhh!!!1111
Wow, I see your point, that was so much more worthwhile than what I was doing before I read your post.
It is not like those curves are for aerodynamics!
No, but it makes their ships look more advanced than their adversaries.
Can you say Vista Failure? I can. So goes the M$ retail chain.
I wonder if you realize that GWB and Jar-Jar command more respect than you.
Yeah I get what you're saying. My take on it is a bit different, though. I think Palin herself brought too many sound-bites to the table. The media sure loves those.
I've heard that in the UK campaign money isn't allowed to be used for television. I'd really love to hear somebody describe what's that like.
Okay, you win. I don't have hard numbers here. What I do have is the number from the post I replied to that shows McCain wasn't very far behind Obama in the number of stories printed. I also have a clear memory of just how much newsworthy content Palin was generating, leaving poor Mr. Biden in the dust. For at least a couple of months, nothing but Palin Palin Palin.
So yes, you're right, I don't have a source to cite. However, if you can show me that McCain + Palin still had fewer stories printed than Obama, I'll show a surprised look that would impress even Macaulay Culkin.
Meanwhile, McCain's 786 stories equates to just over 2 stories every day for a year.
Compared to Obama's 946 which equates to ... just over 2 stories every day for a year.
But every THIRD day, Obama would get THREE stories and McCain would only get TWO stories.
Yeah, and you're going to complain about the press "favored" Obama?
I'm going to stir the pot here and mention that Palin stories were neglected from their count. Look at it that way and McCain's campaign received a lot more coverage.
Resctrictive OS == Defect.
Period.
Maybe, but as long as it works as advertised, it won't be returned for that reason. !Defect. !Period.
I'm having a boring day, but am now looking forward to reading the excuses from the apple haters. bring on the comedy gold!
Go back a little further and you'll find a story about the Google Android platform having an exploit. Not only will you find a boo-boo so dumb that Microsoft would point and laugh, but you'll also find modded up comments claiming that it demonstrates how good the platform is. That topic's far more entertaining than this one.
What is considered a malfunction? And perhaps having the latest and greatest object of the year inspires people to treat the phone with a little more care
What's different between the two phones? Does the lack of a keyboard make the hardware simple enough to have a higher success rate? Does that make it more difficult for people to break?
I'm not surprised that iPhones fail less. People take far better care of them.
The iPhone also has far fewer parts (no KB!) and a restrictive OS that doesn't let you install much. I'm not surprised at a lower defect rate, either.
I've just stopped buying any of their games. Simple yes, but the easiest form of protest...
It's the easiest because it's the least effective.
You are calling over a week to simply disable debugging code a good turnaround time?
Agreed. I don't think anybody around here would appreciate my theory on why exactly the torches and pitchforks aren't out over this one.
If the computer player and I are the same species, we should have the same limitations. Why should the computer player be able to do more stuff than a human player?
Compensation for lack of good AI. Usually the reason for lack of good AI is processing power, but I cannot tell you first hand how true that is.
Palin may have had a shot in 2012, until Tina Fey and the rest of the cast of Saturday Night Live destroyed her political career.
SNL can't write anything funny unless it's basically handed to them. Think about it.
Look at how many Americans died because of Bin Laden's orders. Roughly 3000.
Small nitpick: Though it's true only 3,000 people died on September 11th, there were over 17,000 people in the towers at the time of impact. That doesn't include the intentions of the other two targets.
Seeing how far removed some of those figures are from reality, you'd probably have to teach them what a download is, let alone how to download something.
Most of them have kids.
Some people should release some 'copyrighted' material they created then lure some of the political figures to download it. Once a couple of people get banned from the net, that law will disappear quickly.
Slashdot is getting more FUD and hate-articles lately, might that be? First announcing something bad about a company, practically begging for hating/dissociating posts, then clearing it with articles like this? At least we discussed ... very insightful. I used to like posts that point out the FUD about companies and poke at flaws and inaccuracy in articles, evidence and arguments.
This topic earlier
In between: Have we discussed how awesome the new Ubuntu is often enough?
Mod this troll.
Granted, he did ask that his post be modded troll, but it really isn't. Perhaps he picked a poor example. Here's another.
From the summary:
The folks at O'Reilly Media aren't immune, so they set out to discover just what is it about iPhones that makes them such bad RF citizens.
Cute. Lots of phones are 'bad RF citizens', but gee, this sounds like the iPhone is special in this regard, right?
More from the summary:
The iPhones aren't the only bad apples in the cell phone basket and there's not much you can do about the problem.
So... lots of cell phones create RF interference in some devices. Did that make article make it to Slashdot because of the interesting topic of RF interferrence, or did the line about the iPhone not being a good RF citizen cause it to be approved? Did both of the Opera stories make it without the words "Apple rejected..."?
It's fashionable to smack Apple around, but seriously, it's not like the AC was wrong.
mmos are pointless imso (s=superior). but i dont really like pc games anways.
Not liking PC games kinda sucks the 's' out of your opinion.
You're very obviously trolling, and I have no interest in taking the bait. You've refused to answer questions, and I'm pretty much done with you.
Yes, if I were trolling, that'd let you off the hook pretty easily. I'm not the same guy you were talking to, I have not refused any of your questions.
Your logic can be blown away by simply looking at what you're describing. Either you pirate every game with DRM (every single major title, and most smaller titles) or you financially support good games that have minimalistic DRM.
I said I don't agree with you, I didn't say I agree with him. What I did say is that you are supporting the continued growth and usage of restrictions like DRM. Customers are getting pissed off, companies are listening.
Don't try to suggest that companies will just abandon copy protection before they go bankrupt.
Every restriction they add to a game lowers the value of it. Lower the value enough, and people won't play. It's as simple as that.
Copy protection has been around as long as PC games (anyone remember the code wheels with Starflight?), and yet all my favorite game shops went bankrupt.
Right. The protection didn't protect them. And you got the benefit of being annoyed by the code wheels.
There is a reason console development is more popular than PC development despite a higher install base of PC users, and that is piracy.
Actually, no, it's not. Piracy has little, if anything, to do with it. Consoles have a large base of dedicated gamers. They have a single platform to run on, which simplifies development. You pay the parent company, be it Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft, and they get it published for you provided you meet their guidelines. A few years ago I talked to somebody working for a game publisher and they said a successful PC game was 100,000 copies sold. A successful console company was 400k sold. In the latter case, it wasn't all that uncommon for a console game to sell a million copies. Consoles would be the bar-none winner, but there are a few drawbacks. First is that you have to get that license from the parent company, and they can refuse you for a ton of reasons. It could be too much violence or not being part of their demographic or whatever. Second is that it is expensive, which is why you rarely get small companies working on console games. PCs don't have those restrictions so it's significantly easier to get a game onto shelves. Third is that Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony make decisions about what they publish based on what they want/need and when they can get it. That's an extra level of annoyance that makes commitments to these companies a pain in the rear.
Piracy has had a noted negative impact on PC gaming.
Piracy has a percieved negative impact on PC gaming. It has never actually been proven. However, any business man will tell you that making your product less interesting will not increase its sales.
I choose to vote with my wallet to hopefully preserve PC gaming.
Thank you for supporting restrictions that will eventually lead these games to be no more than $50 game rentals.
People singling out Fallout as a PC game don't know what they're talking about since Fallout is anything but PC.
Yep. That's why it's startling when kids show up that are un-killable. Stupid PC thinking.
Thanks for making my point. :)
TFA says the largest piece could be about 40 pounds and hit at 100 mph. That wouldn't dent your car, it would totally destroy it.
That depends on if it's frozen or thawed!!!
People like SanityInAnarchy bitch about what they want, but if you never support things financially, then no one cares. I watched major PC game development houses fold one after the other, and suddenly I realized that if I want these products to continue, then I need to purchase them.
Ah, but here's the fun part: You're financially supporting their decision to intentionally make these games defective. Look at EA. Big successful company, right? What do they do when they make a highly anticipated game? They use a restriction system that even Microsoft isn't bold enough to implement with Windows. So what happens? The game gets pirated anyway, lots of people bitch, and they end up reducing the severity of the restrictions.
I don't agree with your point of view. Not because I want to get games for free, but because I want to purchase games and enjoy them. I have heaps of hard-drive space. One of the things I routinely do when I purchase apps is to copy the installs to my HD. When I rebuild, I can reinstall them without having a mountain of discs to sift through. Heck, you should see how often I raid PortableApps.com to simplify things even further. I don't even need to install then, just copy. I can't do that with most of my games. One time I even managed to scratch one of my discs. Oops, it happens. I tried to copy a friend of mine's, but it got complicated real quick. I called the company about getting a replacement disc, they wanted $25. Grr. I ended up buying a $10 used copy to finish it. Of course, with the implementation EA used on Spore, if that becomes a thing of the future, used games will become a thing of the past. It didn't get this far, but 'piracy' would have been my last resort. My download would have been counted as a lost sale even though I had paid full price for this game the day it was released. Cute.
You can accuse people of thievery all you want, but reality is nowhere near as black and white as you're making it out to be. You as a legitimate customer should not get burned. That's the important bit of the discussion. Ignore it and you'll never reach resolution.
And do you really need to kill kids to enjoy a game?
Can you enjoy a game when it constantly reminds you of the overly PC world you're trying to escape?
So if someone sitting in a car sees you walking along the street and locks their door, does that mean you'll carjack them?
No. It means he'll go to his garage and construct an exact duplicate of that person's car.