Mario Galaxy radically different than Super Mario Sunshine?
Yes, absolutely. Although I see your point with the others. (I say this despite personally having a lot of affection for Twilight Princess.)
Finally, I ask, what's so wrong with wanting original IP's? Why do some people get so defensive when this is asked for?
It was this line: "Why do gaming companies have to make 100 versions of the same franchise?"
Nintendo in particular is pretty darned good at making a compelling sequel. In a world where the vast majority of sequels are, at best, expansion packs of the original game, Nintendo still finds ways to keep them compelling. I never would have thought I'd prefer a Tetris game over the original Game Boy version. But Tetris DS came along and blew me away. Multiplayer Tetris, over the internet, on a portable system. Suh-weeet. Mario Kart DS? Same deal. Zelda? Do a search for GameTrailers Zelda Retrospective. The epic scale of that franchise is mind-boggling. Compare all that to say Grand Theft Auto. Now, I love Grand Theft Auto. I've played the heck out of all the non-portable versions, even before it went 3D. But when I look back, yeah the sequels were fun, but honestly I don't see that big of difference between them. The stories are different, that's what keeps me coming back, but fundamentally we were given a few trivial upgrades to the original premise. I won't be waiting in line for the next GTA game anymore. Even Bully could be considered an unofficial GTA sequel. It's just so... tried and true. It's hard to look at a series like that then criticize Nintendo for their sequels.
Even then, I really don't have a problem with criticism of Nintendo's games. Not every game works with everybody. But you wouldn't seriously say that Nintendo doesn't try new things, would you? Wii Fit? Wii Sports? (The best selling game of 2007 and it's.. bowling?!) Brain Age? Strikers? Seriously man, when you say things like you did, it sounds like somebody who read the title and jumped to conclusions about what the game is. You're going to receive criticism for that by people who know better. It's like saying: "I don't like vegetables because I hate spinach, give me something original." I'm not sure what else you'd expect, honestly.
This is a great example of Sony as a company - take someone else's idea, brainstorm on it, and then head off in precisely the wrong direction at full-steam.
Somebody in Nintendo HQ is going *bang* *bang* with their fingers and shouting: "Dance!!"
For what it's worth, the DealExtreme link in the summary includes an embedded affiliate code. I appreciate informative links as much as the next guy, but this looks like an attempt to cash in on a/. post.
B.F.D.
You're a geek. That means 'news' to you is 'new shiny products on the market'. As a result, most stories you find interesting will be commercials in some form. Should you decide to go purchase the referred product, all you're doing is preventing the guy who brought it to your attention from getting his reward. Real f'ing cool.
I get what you're saying, but that's all still significantly more work than just sending them on an image to make dupes of. It's the difference between days/weeks/months of programming and "here's a zip file with the image, a PSD of the game cover, and a check".
The old GameCube games are out of print. If publishers are going to spend money on putting games back into print in order to compete with used, they might as well add accelerometer support while they're at it.
There's a significant difference between duping the game image and going in with programmers and supporting new hardware.
So this is the third year of the Wii being available, but it is still at the same (retail) price as when it was originally released. Granted, sales are still outpacing supplies so we can assume that demand has at least remained roughly static over these three years.
However, we all know that hardware prices tend to fall over time. Unless I am mistaken, the Wii of this year is identical to the Wii of 2006 in terms of hardware. So why hasn't the console price fallen? Will we see it fall before Nintendo releases their next system (whenever that will be)?
An earlier post said that console life cycles average about 5 years. If we are therefore over half-way into this cycle, wouldn't we expect to have seen a price drop by now?
I bolded the part where you answered your own question.
What percentage of that "billion people" use "hundreds of input and output periperals"? Ten? More than two?
100. PCs are ridiculously upgradable. The OS needs to not shit its pants when a component is changed. Then the need for time-outs and other ways of checking shit created by other vendors comes along. It's really technical, it might be a bit much for a CEO-like mind such as yours to handle.
And then the Entity's CEO buys himself another ivory backscratcher to celebrate the fact that he's conned yet another sucker into thinking that because he refuses to do something that it can't be done.
Yep. It's a big conspiracy to keep boot-times high. I mean, it's not like there's a market for laptops and accompanying OS's that can boot in a second. Nope, it's the oil companies trying to keep people's computers on for longer, sell more energy. If only Michael Moore would come out and expose this dastardly plot.
But on my 3.2 bajigahertz Pentium Dual-Quad PosiTraction(tm) Gold Edition PC that I'm typing this on:
- I don't use "hundreds of input and output peripherals". I use two. One more than I did on my C-64. - I don't do any WLAN stuff ever. Just like I didn't on my C-64. - I don't use anything LAN related on boot. Just like I didn't on my C-64. - I don't use 3D graphics on boot. Just like I didn't on my C-64. Granted, I do use them when playing 3D games, but that's well after boot. And when I do use 3D graphics, I have a whole separate high-performance hardware subsystem dedicated solely to generating those 3D graphics. And guess what? My system's 3D performance is far *better* than that of my C-64's, while simultaneously delivering far *better* quality! Why can I have both speed and quality improvements in 3D graphics but not in boot time? - I don't do a "million things" on boot. I rarely want to do more than one: select a local application which needs no LAN access and run it. Just like I did on my C-64.
You're one out of a billion people who each have their own configuration. Killer point there, Tiger.
An Entity produces two PCs. One takes a second to boot, one takes two minutes to boot. Suckers I mean Customers accept either because they don't know any better, and once booted they both do pretty much the same thing anyway. Entity realizes this, and thinks to itself, "Hey, why are we busting our humps doing good work (1 second boot) when we can do shoddy work (2 minute boot) and sell just as many units at the same price?"
And then the Entity's engineers think to themselves: "That's a relief. We couldn't do it anyway because of all the various doodads we still have to support."
He covered that with the bit about the 'nice distribution system'. Apple's training their customers to pay for apps. The real question is: Despite the 30% cut, would a developer still make more money? The amount Apple makes is immaterial.
I grew up in AZ - moved to a state that does daylight savings a couple years ago. I hate it. I never felt any lack for not having it or thought, "Gee, I wished we messed with the clocks twice a year."
We should replace it with nothing. Just eliminate it. It would simplify life at no cost.
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So, $59/month x 24 plus $100 = $1500
Seems like not so much a bargain. But that's just me.
You're getting wireless internet the whole time. For some, it's worth it.
Mario Galaxy radically different than Super Mario Sunshine?
Yes, absolutely. Although I see your point with the others. (I say this despite personally having a lot of affection for Twilight Princess.)
Finally, I ask, what's so wrong with wanting original IP's? Why do some people get so defensive when this is asked for?
It was this line: "Why do gaming companies have to make 100 versions of the same franchise?"
Nintendo in particular is pretty darned good at making a compelling sequel. In a world where the vast majority of sequels are, at best, expansion packs of the original game, Nintendo still finds ways to keep them compelling. I never would have thought I'd prefer a Tetris game over the original Game Boy version. But Tetris DS came along and blew me away. Multiplayer Tetris, over the internet, on a portable system. Suh-weeet. Mario Kart DS? Same deal. Zelda? Do a search for GameTrailers Zelda Retrospective. The epic scale of that franchise is mind-boggling. Compare all that to say Grand Theft Auto. Now, I love Grand Theft Auto. I've played the heck out of all the non-portable versions, even before it went 3D. But when I look back, yeah the sequels were fun, but honestly I don't see that big of difference between them. The stories are different, that's what keeps me coming back, but fundamentally we were given a few trivial upgrades to the original premise. I won't be waiting in line for the next GTA game anymore. Even Bully could be considered an unofficial GTA sequel. It's just so... tried and true. It's hard to look at a series like that then criticize Nintendo for their sequels.
Even then, I really don't have a problem with criticism of Nintendo's games. Not every game works with everybody. But you wouldn't seriously say that Nintendo doesn't try new things, would you? Wii Fit? Wii Sports? (The best selling game of 2007 and it's.. bowling?!) Brain Age? Strikers? Seriously man, when you say things like you did, it sounds like somebody who read the title and jumped to conclusions about what the game is. You're going to receive criticism for that by people who know better. It's like saying: "I don't like vegetables because I hate spinach, give me something original." I'm not sure what else you'd expect, honestly.
Eh. I don't know. I'm sure Valve appreciates the compliment, but I doubt they'll be gushing over it.
Oh please. There probably wasn't a dry pair of underwear in the whole building.
This is a great example of Sony as a company - take someone else's idea, brainstorm on it, and then head off in precisely the wrong direction at full-steam.
Somebody in Nintendo HQ is going *bang* *bang* with their fingers and shouting: "Dance!!"
For what it's worth, the DealExtreme link in the summary includes an embedded affiliate code. I appreciate informative links as much as the next guy, but this looks like an attempt to cash in on a /. post.
B.F.D.
You're a geek. That means 'news' to you is 'new shiny products on the market'. As a result, most stories you find interesting will be commercials in some form. Should you decide to go purchase the referred product, all you're doing is preventing the guy who brought it to your attention from getting his reward. Real f'ing cool.
1. Nintendo no longer presses GameCube discs,
I get you now. I wasn't aware of that.
I get what you're saying, but that's all still significantly more work than just sending them on an image to make dupes of. It's the difference between days/weeks/months of programming and "here's a zip file with the image, a PSD of the game cover, and a check".
you didn't see Doom or Doom II then ?
Sure, but a.) I wasn't running it or anything else at 1024 by 768 and b.) I wasn't speaking in absolutes.
Yay! The Pirates SCORE AGAIN !! Yay!!
Yay!! I got mail!! Yay!!
And the ignorant are fed for another day.
Running GAMECONFIG.EXE to say yes, my SoundBlaster is on IRQ 7, my display can handle 1024x769 in 256 colours, and no, I don't have an AdLib card.
You misspelled 320x200. ;)
(Okay, that was a pointless nitpick, but we didn't really start seeing >640x480 games until well after Windows 95 came along.)
The old GameCube games are out of print. If publishers are going to spend money on putting games back into print in order to compete with used, they might as well add accelerometer support while they're at it.
There's a significant difference between duping the game image and going in with programmers and supporting new hardware.
Linux users have the big dicks, voluminous brains, razor wits, and they get to fuck all of the female instances of all of the above.
So they claim unverifiably on the internet.
So this is the third year of the Wii being available, but it is still at the same (retail) price as when it was originally released. Granted, sales are still outpacing supplies so we can assume that demand has at least remained roughly static over these three years.
However, we all know that hardware prices tend to fall over time. Unless I am mistaken, the Wii of this year is identical to the Wii of 2006 in terms of hardware. So why hasn't the console price fallen? Will we see it fall before Nintendo releases their next system (whenever that will be)?
An earlier post said that console life cycles average about 5 years. If we are therefore over half-way into this cycle, wouldn't we expect to have seen a price drop by now?
I bolded the part where you answered your own question.
What percentage of that "billion people" use "hundreds of input and output periperals"? Ten? More than two?
100. PCs are ridiculously upgradable. The OS needs to not shit its pants when a component is changed. Then the need for time-outs and other ways of checking shit created by other vendors comes along. It's really technical, it might be a bit much for a CEO-like mind such as yours to handle.
And then the Entity's CEO buys himself another ivory backscratcher to celebrate the fact that he's conned yet another sucker into thinking that because he refuses to do something that it can't be done.
Yep. It's a big conspiracy to keep boot-times high. I mean, it's not like there's a market for laptops and accompanying OS's that can boot in a second. Nope, it's the oil companies trying to keep people's computers on for longer, sell more energy. If only Michael Moore would come out and expose this dastardly plot.
But on my 3.2 bajigahertz Pentium Dual-Quad PosiTraction(tm) Gold Edition PC that I'm typing this on:
- I don't use "hundreds of input and output peripherals". I use two. One more than I did on my C-64.
- I don't do any WLAN stuff ever. Just like I didn't on my C-64.
- I don't use anything LAN related on boot. Just like I didn't on my C-64.
- I don't use 3D graphics on boot. Just like I didn't on my C-64. Granted, I do use them when playing 3D games, but that's well after boot. And when I do use 3D graphics, I have a whole separate high-performance hardware subsystem dedicated solely to generating those 3D graphics. And guess what? My system's 3D performance is far *better* than that of my C-64's, while simultaneously delivering far *better* quality! Why can I have both speed and quality improvements in 3D graphics but not in boot time?
- I don't do a "million things" on boot. I rarely want to do more than one: select a local application which needs no LAN access and run it. Just like I did on my C-64.
You're one out of a billion people who each have their own configuration. Killer point there, Tiger.
An Entity produces two PCs. One takes a second to boot, one takes two minutes to boot. Suckers I mean Customers accept either because they don't know any better, and once booted they both do pretty much the same thing anyway. Entity realizes this, and thinks to itself, "Hey, why are we busting our humps doing good work (1 second boot) when we can do shoddy work (2 minute boot) and sell just as many units at the same price?"
And then the Entity's engineers think to themselves: "That's a relief. We couldn't do it anyway because of all the various doodads we still have to support."
"And apple takes only a 30"
Only?
He covered that with the bit about the 'nice distribution system'. Apple's training their customers to pay for apps. The real question is: Despite the 30% cut, would a developer still make more money? The amount Apple makes is immaterial.
Stick that wiimote in your assholes, faggot WEE owners!
You should have got a Playstation 3, the TRUE winner :P
What's the point of the anal wiimote installation? To simulate the expense of buying one? Looking for a lil sympathy?
Try making your joke funny next time. Ignorance alone is not comedy.
I grew up in AZ - moved to a state that does daylight savings a couple years ago. I hate it. I never felt any lack for not having it or thought, "Gee, I wished we messed with the clocks twice a year."
We should replace it with nothing. Just eliminate it. It would simplify life at no cost.
Yeah, I wish everybody'd things my way too.
1. People don't even know if they'll have jobs next week, would they really be taking on an expensive new phone and plan?
Small nitpick: The whole country's not going through. Things have slowed down but it's not like everything suddenly stopped.
Probably because T-Mobile and Google don't have the Apple hype-machine/blogosphere/rumor sites going insane over unreleased products?
Without a doubt. However, it's not like these phones have reviewed exceptionally well.
What is the museum doing under water?
That's how they advertise it to keep obnoxiously literal people from interrupting tours. ;)
I'm just curious because keeping 6+ million lines of code almost completely bug free is pretty amazing.
Yes, that would be amazing.
I wonder if they'll let me test out maglev rollerblades on the track.
If you keep cracking these jokes, and it comes down to money, we'll chip in.
My understanding is that the three games will be available at the same time. Am I mistaken?
Yes. They're doing one game at a time, probably a year or so in between them.
A lot of the misgivings on Slashdot about it were simply knee-jerk reactions.