I have to say, this is one of the best articles, WITH comments I have read on/. in quite some time. There is actually some heart felt feelings going into people's responses and very good arguments about the whole Black/White/Grey thing. kudos to all of you, and why can't we see this kind of passion in more posts?
The company I work for uses pointsec on our laptops. There is integrated login (we use a novell client on winderz) that works just dandy, it does add about 5 seconds to bootup, but there is really no overhead to speak of when using the laptop (IBM T-41) and I am fully with using the encryption. I know someone above mentioned using encryption with Linux, but we don't use Linux on the desktop, we are about 15,000 employees, and use XP on the desktop/laptop with the exception of security guys (ME) we use a second partition or we use whopix or knopix and boot to a cd for pen/vuln testing. What I am trying to say is... I have never noticed any slowdown or issues with using it, and password reset can be handled with a one time pad, or by calling the helpdesk for a password reset.
/RANT-ON/ The Lemmings will buy them and love them even if the fucking knobs and click wheels fall off, and the screen is so scratched that you can't dial a friggin number! Some people just buy this crap to prove how special they are as compared to those of us who actually use a goddamn phone for making phone calls!!!/RANT-OFF/
Well...I am willing to bet that the options are there is you are using one of their fantastic GUIs, say maybe NWADMIN, but do they actually work?, Did they EVER actually work?...Sorry, I guess that is more of a question than an answer to your question.
Funny story here....
I was a Nurse/Respiratory Therapist for about 12 years before I went into IT...During that time, I went through 2, count them, 2 wifes...Now that I have been in IT for about 12 years, I have only had ONE wife, and she accepts that sometimes the job comes before the marriage, but I make it up to her when I can, and she knows I will. I think ANY job can cause a divorce if you let it. Either a Dr., Lawyer, IT guy, Wedding videographer, or wetf you decide to do, just make sure if you get married, you know the person, and that they understand you have a demanding job. SHIT!!! I sound like SUCH A SISSY!!!!:o)
Imagine if they had developed this application for NVidia video cards, probably 2x the speed!!1!
Go ahead, mod me a troll....I will appologize tomorrow:o)
Thanks, but I would prefer to have someone who is actually running the place answer the questions. I believe that if ANY Company has my personal information, I should have the RIGHT to audit them myself. I happen to be an Information Security pro myself, and the old standard applies in this situation, DO NOT believe anyone when they insist that they are secure. Every system has vulnerabilities, perhaps yet unknown, and NOTHING is secure.
a little tidbit on are 50 from the Los Alamos website...
Laboratory personnel can expect increased heavy truck traffic near Technical Area 50 for several weeks while construction of a new tank farm is completed.
The tank farm is being built at TA-50 for the Radioactive Liquid Waste Treatment Facility. While work is under way, up to 30 concrete trucks will be traveling on a weekly basis near TA-50 along Pajarito Road, according to Rick Alexander of Radioactive Liquid Waste (NWIS-RLW).
No...It is my identity that I worry about. Say someone gets your SSN, they can go get a Drivers License and become you. I do not use credit cards, but everyone and their mother require you SSN to do business with you, you use it to get a job, you use it for almost ALL government transactions. When someone becomes you, they can do things in your name, not just ruin your credit, but things like commit crimes, etc. That is what worries me, not credit or money.
You know...I have your typical ADSL line, 6 megabit down, 700kbps up. Here is what I see pounding on my firewall (BSD type firewall) almost every day... Hitting port 1026 like a mad hatter. port 1026 is generally used for those nasty windows messenger (the service, not the IM software) SPAM popups. Funny, right? Perhaps it is really the DOD trying to use windows messenger popup spam to brain wash me, but I highly doubt it, My mind is not worth the effort!!!
OrgName: DoD Network Information Center
OrgID: DNIC
Address: 3990 E. Broad Street
City: Columbus
StateProv: OH
PostalCode: 43218
Country: US
NetRange: 29.0.0.0 - 29.255.255.255
CIDR: 29.0.0.0/8
NetName: MILX25-TEMP
NetHandle: NET-29-0-0-0-1
Parent:
NetType: Direct Allocation
Comment: Defense Information Systems Agency
Comment: Washington, DC 20305-2000 US
RegDate:
Updated: 2002-10-07
OrgTechHandle: MIL-HSTMST-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network DoD
OrgTechPhone: +1-800-365-3642
OrgTechEmail: HOSTMASTER@nic.mil
I knew this would happen...Not that I am some great predictive mind, but I knew it. I stopped using Bank Of America when they made their IT people train their own replacements in India (and other countries). When this fellow says that their security is the best, I wonder exactly what that means...Do they have patched and updated systems, do they use top tier vendors for their security hardware (firewalls, etc) do they practice and follow the same financial/disclosure regulations that American companies have to? (SoX, HIPAA, etc). Do they do background checks on all of their employees, and if they get a hit, do they not hire that peson? I have a million questions for this guy, do you think we can line up our questions and have the answered? I doubt it. I am damn near to the point that I am going to move to freaking Alaska, cut my Internet connection, and start living off the land!!! This identity theft crap is about to push me over the edge! Anyone else feel this way?
If Linux were as imbedded into our lives as M$ Products, we would not need the support at all. Learn to use the OS with a free version, and if you then need the functionality of the NON-Free version, you are not stuck paying for support you do not need. I use Linux, and not a free version, but I have been using Linux for about 8 years, so I know it well enough to NOT need the support. If I were to install a OEM version of Windows, say I bought it at Fry's Electronics with the new hardware to build my new peecee, I get absolutely NO support, Not on installation, not on any viruses, and for sure not on using it.
2 cents for ya!
You know....I opted to pay Novell for a SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop OS that works pretty damn good. $50 bux and I am done. None of this BS where you can not put it on another machine when this one fails, you re-install, go online, and remove the dead hardware, and "entitle" the new hardware. Somewhat big brother-ish, but NO WHERE like M$! Not to mention, the 3D desktop with all the whirling and what not is just plain BADASS:o)
I did not get that the article was, or the comments were saying that the guy is owed something. How about just showing a little humanity and helping out a fellow human being? People now adays have become so cross and disbelieving that it is hard for them to accept the fact that someone might be down and out, and need help...HONESTLY. This person just happened to write books that influenced several generations, take that away, and you still have a human being who needs some help. What say we declare a national "show some damn humanity" day, hell, we have a "Talk like a Pirate" day. Just for the record, I DO NOT give spare change to bums on the sidewalk, nor do I usually fall for the people who are standing along side traffic with a sign that says "Disabled Vetran, Need Help, God Bless". People who genuinely need help, those are the people who I try to help, use your head, and you can usually tell who they are without a lot of strain.
I have been sitting here for about 20 minutes trying to come up with something serious to say about this...I give up!!!!!!!!!!!! Once you have read all the comments with the jokes, it is impossible to think of anything else...must be some kinda mind control.
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I have to say, this is one of the best articles, WITH comments I have read on /. in quite some time. There is actually some heart felt feelings going into people's responses and very good arguments about the whole Black/White/Grey thing. kudos to all of you, and why can't we see this kind of passion in more posts?
WOW! That was really funny! I laughed so hare, I just scared a bunch of folks who were actually coding in VB!!!
HAHA!! Thanks for the info there, I will keep that in mind the next time I require flamage :o)
Really...Like the 50 computers Apple has sold with Intel inside would really make a difference. NOOOOOOOOO!!! Not Flame bait!!!
It takes 10 lines of VB just to declare that you are using VB!!
The company I work for uses pointsec on our laptops. There is integrated login (we use a novell client on winderz) that works just dandy, it does add about 5 seconds to bootup, but there is really no overhead to speak of when using the laptop (IBM T-41) and I am fully with using the encryption. I know someone above mentioned using encryption with Linux, but we don't use Linux on the desktop, we are about 15,000 employees, and use XP on the desktop/laptop with the exception of security guys (ME) we use a second partition or we use whopix or knopix and boot to a cd for pen/vuln testing. What I am trying to say is... I have never noticed any slowdown or issues with using it, and password reset can be handled with a one time pad, or by calling the helpdesk for a password reset.
How about a little SuSE Linux with XGL? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-758796551 4994593432&q=xgl
I love a good challenge :o)
BAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, MAN! I needed a good laugh, and by golly, you for sure provided it, thank you.
/RANT-ON/ /RANT-OFF/
The Lemmings will buy them and love them even if the fucking knobs and click wheels fall off, and the screen is so scratched that you can't dial a friggin number! Some people just buy this crap to prove how special they are as compared to those of us who actually use a goddamn phone for making phone calls!!!
Obligatory comment about the short fat Boss... Another about short fat mother-in-law!!! :o)
Yeah...That would be neat. Ooops! IBM already does that, and it SUX!!!
Well...I am willing to bet that the options are there is you are using one of their fantastic GUIs, say maybe NWADMIN, but do they actually work?, Did they EVER actually work?...Sorry, I guess that is more of a question than an answer to your question.
Funny story here.... I was a Nurse/Respiratory Therapist for about 12 years before I went into IT...During that time, I went through 2, count them, 2 wifes...Now that I have been in IT for about 12 years, I have only had ONE wife, and she accepts that sometimes the job comes before the marriage, but I make it up to her when I can, and she knows I will. I think ANY job can cause a divorce if you let it. Either a Dr., Lawyer, IT guy, Wedding videographer, or wetf you decide to do, just make sure if you get married, you know the person, and that they understand you have a demanding job. SHIT!!! I sound like SUCH A SISSY!!!! :o)
Imagine if they had developed this application for NVidia video cards, probably 2x the speed!!1! Go ahead, mod me a troll....I will appologize tomorrow :o)
I don't really care if Apple does it, but for sure SOMEONE needs to!! I should have patented this back in 2000 :o)
Thanks, but I would prefer to have someone who is actually running the place answer the questions. I believe that if ANY Company has my personal information, I should have the RIGHT to audit them myself. I happen to be an Information Security pro myself, and the old standard applies in this situation, DO NOT believe anyone when they insist that they are secure. Every system has vulnerabilities, perhaps yet unknown, and NOTHING is secure.
a little tidbit on are 50 from the Los Alamos website... Laboratory personnel can expect increased heavy truck traffic near Technical Area 50 for several weeks while construction of a new tank farm is completed. The tank farm is being built at TA-50 for the Radioactive Liquid Waste Treatment Facility. While work is under way, up to 30 concrete trucks will be traveling on a weekly basis near TA-50 along Pajarito Road, according to Rick Alexander of Radioactive Liquid Waste (NWIS-RLW).
No...It is my identity that I worry about. Say someone gets your SSN, they can go get a Drivers License and become you. I do not use credit cards, but everyone and their mother require you SSN to do business with you, you use it to get a job, you use it for almost ALL government transactions. When someone becomes you, they can do things in your name, not just ruin your credit, but things like commit crimes, etc. That is what worries me, not credit or money.
You know...I have your typical ADSL line, 6 megabit down, 700kbps up. Here is what I see pounding on my firewall (BSD type firewall) almost every day... Hitting port 1026 like a mad hatter. port 1026 is generally used for those nasty windows messenger (the service, not the IM software) SPAM popups. Funny, right? Perhaps it is really the DOD trying to use windows messenger popup spam to brain wash me, but I highly doubt it, My mind is not worth the effort!!! OrgName: DoD Network Information Center OrgID: DNIC Address: 3990 E. Broad Street City: Columbus StateProv: OH PostalCode: 43218 Country: US NetRange: 29.0.0.0 - 29.255.255.255 CIDR: 29.0.0.0/8 NetName: MILX25-TEMP NetHandle: NET-29-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Direct Allocation Comment: Defense Information Systems Agency Comment: Washington, DC 20305-2000 US RegDate: Updated: 2002-10-07 OrgTechHandle: MIL-HSTMST-ARIN OrgTechName: Network DoD OrgTechPhone: +1-800-365-3642 OrgTechEmail: HOSTMASTER@nic.mil
I knew this would happen...Not that I am some great predictive mind, but I knew it. I stopped using Bank Of America when they made their IT people train their own replacements in India (and other countries). When this fellow says that their security is the best, I wonder exactly what that means...Do they have patched and updated systems, do they use top tier vendors for their security hardware (firewalls, etc) do they practice and follow the same financial/disclosure regulations that American companies have to? (SoX, HIPAA, etc). Do they do background checks on all of their employees, and if they get a hit, do they not hire that peson? I have a million questions for this guy, do you think we can line up our questions and have the answered? I doubt it. I am damn near to the point that I am going to move to freaking Alaska, cut my Internet connection, and start living off the land!!! This identity theft crap is about to push me over the edge! Anyone else feel this way?
If Linux were as imbedded into our lives as M$ Products, we would not need the support at all. Learn to use the OS with a free version, and if you then need the functionality of the NON-Free version, you are not stuck paying for support you do not need. I use Linux, and not a free version, but I have been using Linux for about 8 years, so I know it well enough to NOT need the support. If I were to install a OEM version of Windows, say I bought it at Fry's Electronics with the new hardware to build my new peecee, I get absolutely NO support, Not on installation, not on any viruses, and for sure not on using it. 2 cents for ya!
You know....I opted to pay Novell for a SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop OS that works pretty damn good. $50 bux and I am done. None of this BS where you can not put it on another machine when this one fails, you re-install, go online, and remove the dead hardware, and "entitle" the new hardware. Somewhat big brother-ish, but NO WHERE like M$! Not to mention, the 3D desktop with all the whirling and what not is just plain BADASS :o)
Don't throw a controlling share of the company to the VC Firm. Keep it for yourself.
I did not get that the article was, or the comments were saying that the guy is owed something. How about just showing a little humanity and helping out a fellow human being? People now adays have become so cross and disbelieving that it is hard for them to accept the fact that someone might be down and out, and need help...HONESTLY. This person just happened to write books that influenced several generations, take that away, and you still have a human being who needs some help. What say we declare a national "show some damn humanity" day, hell, we have a "Talk like a Pirate" day. Just for the record, I DO NOT give spare change to bums on the sidewalk, nor do I usually fall for the people who are standing along side traffic with a sign that says "Disabled Vetran, Need Help, God Bless". People who genuinely need help, those are the people who I try to help, use your head, and you can usually tell who they are without a lot of strain.
I have been sitting here for about 20 minutes trying to come up with something serious to say about this...I give up!!!!!!!!!!!! Once you have read all the comments with the jokes, it is impossible to think of anything else...must be some kinda mind control.