Sounds to me like a very typical bullshit from those clueless project managers that has none of IT knowledge, but running with Gannt charts across everywhere.
There is a fucking clear definition, already defined by ESR years ago: content, content, content and, again, content matters. While from technical perspective Ajax is NOT a technology, but a bunch of techniques that wraps all that REQUEST/RESPONSE game into more sophisticated way. As a consequence, developers that had no much clue before suddenly hyped to use XmlHttpRequest widely in the typical fashion: "I can get it working too!!".
The fact, that you're putting an icon with a glass effect, bigger font, using pastel color gamma and refreshing page partially still does not mean something. Besides, it is as same HTTP with HTML that has been here for years.
Again, from technology perspective, new things are Sun JavaFX, Adobe AIR, M$ Silverlight or Novel Moonlight etc â" these are conceptually newer and makes different approach to the Web in general. So technically speaking, I would suggest shut the fuck up about "Web 2.0" and call it just "Web" as it actually is.
And from business perspective I just do not care, because I am nerd. Not a business man.
He is probably talking the hell that there is no Ajax technique in upcoming Web 3.0, since Ajax is not any new technology itself, but just wrapped HTTP request/response in background that also has a number of problems and will be unstable Beta forever due to no standards in real-world (read business world) as they do depends on how browsers implements them actually...
In Web 3.0 there is Java Swing, JavaFX, Adobe AIR, Adobe Flash and Microsoft Silverlight. But there is no any AJax...
My friends include a woman who writes 100-line SQL statements embedded in a perl-script. You need a magic decoder ring just to see what's there.
See? This is because she is *woman*. Because man will keep SQL statement outside the script in a template. Who embeds SQL statements into a source code?!! >8-E
The language is a serious turn off for most developers I know.
Time to change your circle of friends? IMHO any language is mostly OK (well, Perl might be an exception though, but it is a serious mentality diagnosis, not just a cryptic language that readability of the source does not changes if you compress it with a GNU Zip)...
What's wrong with Objective C anyway? Works for me...
Apple hardware is one of the best and has very reasonable price. In some cases you can get PC cheaper and faster, but overall quality for Apple hardware is still one of the topmost. E.g. if you want to assemble something similar to 24" iMac with e.g. Dell, then you will get the same thing around $200-$300 USD more expensive than Apple.
To support zillion crappy low-quality hardware? No, thanks. It is a nightmare that will turn Apple to be a shitty Microsoft-like quality. Apple still has tons of unresolved issues in current environment.
Apple, like anything or anyone else, is as vulnerable to the abuse of a powerful position Yeah, let me remember their slogan... "World domination. Fast. (Linus Torvalds)" -- that one?...
dropped Java as a first class language (no more Java-Objective-C API bindings) two years ago, and last year dropped the C/C++ API's further development.
And this is very correct decision. It is too silly to have Cocoa thing in Java (read: cross-platform solution). And it is too silly to wait for each Java release more than one year. Now, soon World will use Java 7, while there are still no Java 6 as a release on Macs!
The net result of this is that if you want to develop a native 64 bit GUI application on OS X, you must use Objective-C. ObjC is a fine language, and now has Garbage collection, amongst other things, but it is very very difficult to port ObjC applications to other platforms. In a way, it's like Microsoft's.Net, except that there's not even an ObjC Mono to counter it.
You're contradicting yourself. Either make a cross-platform solution since beginning, or do not bother about that at all. It is as same as to say ".NET is impossible or hardly portable to z/OS or NetBSD", which is totally correct. You need cross-platform solution? So why you bothering with Cocoa and then wasting a time/money to porting them elsewhere?.. Java has Swing UI (excellent, BTW!) and you have Mac look and feel, provided by Apple. Not a Cocoa? Yes, but I do not give a shit.
Apple is almost wholly dependent on the final opinion of Steve Jobs
Yes, like Linux is [mostly] dependent on the final opinion of Linus Torvalds or Windows on M$ heads. What's up? You want a chaos instead?
Apple only offered changes to this when users rebelled in outrage.
So what's the problem? Apple did responded to the users. They also had changed their decision towards iPhone SDK and actually made it, instead pushing everybody towards AJAX webapps for just Safari. Where do you see the problem?
In fact, I do remember how RedHat crippled KDE and other stuff for their distros, pissing off entire community. Did they change their way? No. Where you've been then with your comments at that time?..
And I like translucent menubar and 3D dock (that you can pimp it yourself as much as you want), along with the pop-up folder stack.:-P
Apple's server offerings are to a large extent just wrappers around open source technologies.
Not quite. I'd love if it would be like this. But it is... worse: these are wrappers over a *crippled* open source things...:-( In fact, Apple servers still sucks a lot and really needs to be much better.
The same with Apple: they have a _almost_ monopoly for music players, but using this to push Quicktime ( = crap ) on everybody's desktop should not be allowed.
You are totally free to use VLC or MPlayer. No one cancelled it or disallowed.
Linux is far easier to support than is Windows. Have you seen the EeePC?
Yes. Asus designed it as worse as it can: 7" monitor with huge (!) speakers on both sides. Keyboard's keys are good for stylus and a kid, but really not for my big fingers...
And Japanese does not works on Linux as it really should be.:-( Thus here, in Japan, we have only XP-based devices. No Linux ever.
Using ssh you can administer the machine remotely.
You can even run a Beowulf cluster of them with Oracle on top.:-) But do we need it? We need a small cheap device, that can perform the tasks.
Personally I think Linux was very nice idea, but really fsck'ed up, as it usually happens.
Linux on the desktop is the mistress, windows is the wife, big business is the successful husband and unless the mistress puts a bullet in the wifes head the husband isn't voluntarily divorcing his wife anytime soon.
Apparently, there is at least one more mistress with an Apple in her hands that tries to put a bullets at least to the legs, both to Linux mistress and the original wife...
I would be very happy if entire red soviet Russia would be transferred to the Moon or (better) red Mars, making their orbital Kremlin and orbital Red Square available for their citizens.
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It also can not pay by "electronic wallet" and show TV (in Japan).
Web 2.0 is so much more than the technology.
Sounds to me like a very typical bullshit from those clueless project managers that has none of IT knowledge, but running with Gannt charts across everywhere.
There is a fucking clear definition, already defined by ESR years ago: content, content, content and, again, content matters. While from technical perspective Ajax is NOT a technology, but a bunch of techniques that wraps all that REQUEST/RESPONSE game into more sophisticated way. As a consequence, developers that had no much clue before suddenly hyped to use XmlHttpRequest widely in the typical fashion: "I can get it working too!!".
The fact, that you're putting an icon with a glass effect, bigger font, using pastel color gamma and refreshing page partially still does not mean something. Besides, it is as same HTTP with HTML that has been here for years.
Again, from technology perspective, new things are Sun JavaFX, Adobe AIR, M$ Silverlight or Novel Moonlight etc â" these are conceptually newer and makes different approach to the Web in general. So technically speaking, I would suggest shut the fuck up about "Web 2.0" and call it just "Web" as it actually is.
And from business perspective I just do not care, because I am nerd. Not a business man.
verb
1 [ intrans. ] to install an operating system update before verifying that it's safe to do so on the [Ars Mac forum]
This often happens with Linux fanboys... :-)
Never fuck with russians. Ever.
But concerning standards on different browsers to avoid various problems, quirks and hacks, would be easier to adopt Brainfuck... :-)
He is probably talking the hell that there is no Ajax technique in upcoming Web 3.0, since Ajax is not any new technology itself, but just wrapped HTTP request/response in background that also has a number of problems and will be unstable Beta forever due to no standards in real-world (read business world) as they do depends on how browsers implements them actually...
In Web 3.0 there is Java Swing, JavaFX, Adobe AIR, Adobe Flash and Microsoft Silverlight. But there is no any AJax...
What would you buy him as a retirement gift?
An iPod with anti-theft device: http://hideapod.com/
BTW, folks, how about replace on slashdot that Bill's mug with Ballmer's physiognomy? :)
See? This is because she is *woman*. Because man will keep SQL statement outside the script in a template. Who embeds SQL statements into a source code?!! >8-E
That's fine. If they started following the Ubuntu quality model, that would really hurt.
That's the reason! Because we all use Macs these days...
Kostya, no iTelephone in Russia, "k sozhaleniyu"... :-)
Time to change your circle of friends? IMHO any language is mostly OK (well, Perl might be an exception though, but it is a serious mentality diagnosis, not just a cryptic language that readability of the source does not changes if you compress it with a GNU Zip)...
What's wrong with Objective C anyway? Works for me...
Two reasons why not:
You are about to cut a surface with the sharp tool. Cancel or allow?..
Allow
Are you sure? Y/N
Y
*shows mouse cursor as a clock*, *HDD works heavily*
*guh!* Error -0xFF46A1: Unable to connect to socket 0x0650 at address 0xFFFF44DD. [ OK ] [ Retry ] [ Ignore ]
OK
*silence*
*still silence*
...
You are about to cut a surface with the sharp tool. Cancel or allow?..
Allow
Are you sure? Y/N
Y
*shows mouse cursor as a clock*, *HDD works heavily*
*guh!* Error -0xD4EE9: Windows Networking not found. [ Configure ] [ Cancel ]
Configure...
TCP/IP adaptor was not found. Please insert installation DVD to find one.
Driver found, install? (Cancel or Allow?)
Allow
Really?
Y
Really?
R
Really?
*click* OK
*Guh!* Error: The driver from this manufacturer can not be installed on this operating system edition. [ OK ]
*reboot*
Welcome to Windows Vista!
...
...
...
...
You are about to cut a surface with the sharp tool. Cancel or allow?..
Allow
Are you sure? Y/N
Y
*shows mouse cursor as a clock*, *HDD works heavily*
...
...
...
*patient throws the chair and walks away*
And this is very correct decision. It is too silly to have Cocoa thing in Java (read: cross-platform solution). And it is too silly to wait for each Java release more than one year. Now, soon World will use Java 7, while there are still no Java 6 as a release on Macs!
The net result of this is that if you want to develop a native 64 bit GUI application on OS X, you must use Objective-C. ObjC is a fine language, and now has Garbage collection, amongst other things, but it is very very difficult to port ObjC applications to other platforms. In a way, it's like Microsoft'sYou're contradicting yourself. Either make a cross-platform solution since beginning, or do not bother about that at all. It is as same as to say ".NET is impossible or hardly portable to z/OS or NetBSD", which is totally correct. You need cross-platform solution? So why you bothering with Cocoa and then wasting a time/money to porting them elsewhere?.. Java has Swing UI (excellent, BTW!) and you have Mac look and feel, provided by Apple. Not a Cocoa? Yes, but I do not give a shit.
Apple is almost wholly dependent on the final opinion of Steve JobsYes, like Linux is [mostly] dependent on the final opinion of Linus Torvalds or Windows on M$ heads. What's up? You want a chaos instead?
Apple only offered changes to this when users rebelled in outrage.So what's the problem? Apple did responded to the users. They also had changed their decision towards iPhone SDK and actually made it, instead pushing everybody towards AJAX webapps for just Safari. Where do you see the problem?
In fact, I do remember how RedHat crippled KDE and other stuff for their distros, pissing off entire community. Did they change their way? No. Where you've been then with your comments at that time?..
And I like translucent menubar and 3D dock (that you can pimp it yourself as much as you want), along with the pop-up folder stack. :-P
Apple's server offerings are to a large extent just wrappers around open source technologies.Not quite. I'd love if it would be like this. But it is... worse: these are wrappers over a *crippled* open source things... :-( In fact, Apple servers still sucks a lot and really needs to be much better.
Job search hits from Dice.com
Java [dice.com]: 15786 jobs
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BTW, same site says:
Excel: 10742 jobs
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Yelling on Employees: 1 job (Junior Technolohist)
Yes! You are right! It all should be done in Perl!! Did anybody ever saw such sort of bugs in Slashdot?!
*hides*
Well, there are two kind of people: one who talk, another who are object of talks...
Correction: Indian with a python on the neck.
You are totally free to use VLC or MPlayer. No one cancelled it or disallowed.
Hey, they also using their monopoly shipping a Terminal.app and X11, bastards...
Yes. Asus designed it as worse as it can: 7" monitor with huge (!) speakers on both sides. Keyboard's keys are good for stylus and a kid, but really not for my big fingers...
And Japanese does not works on Linux as it really should be. :-( Thus here, in Japan, we have only XP-based devices. No Linux ever.
Using ssh you can administer the machine remotely.You can even run a Beowulf cluster of them with Oracle on top. :-) But do we need it? We need a small cheap device, that can perform the tasks.
Personally I think Linux was very nice idea, but really fsck'ed up, as it usually happens.
Apparently, there is at least one more mistress with an Apple in her hands that tries to put a bullets at least to the legs, both to Linux mistress and the original wife...
I would be very happy if entire red soviet Russia would be transferred to the Moon or (better) red Mars, making their orbital Kremlin and orbital Red Square available for their citizens.