Also, if you have a menubar type of panel it should include an "Actions" menu which has Take a Screenshot.
One annoying thing about this screenshot program is there is no way I can see to take a single window's screenshot. GIMP can do that or just use xwd like someone else suggested.
Your comments on the bookmarks sytem use to be true, but they now have a bookmarks menu item like other browsers. The bookmarks system still works how it use to, categorize bookmarks into topics. This means each topic will show up as a bookmark folder in your bookmark list, and you can't have it deeper than 1 folder.
There is an option to open links in tabs by default. Which I have turned on and clicking the middle mouse button on links opens them in tabs. Not sure if that is what you wanted.
As far as the total idea of your post, I kind of agree. The epiphany developers seem to be going overboard with the less options is better philosophy. I understand it but when they took out the fine-grained popup blocking options and just replaced it with an "Allow Popups" checkbox I got pretty pissed. I mean what does this mean, will all popups be gone, will unrequested onLoad type of popups be gone? This is important stuff that they thumb their nose at.
I do like the interface better than galeon though. I have learned to love the bookmark system which you bashed. The coolest thing about it is that it is integrated with the URL autocomplete so typing a name of a topic, for example "news" would have the autocomplete choices be your bookmarks in the news topic. Very cool. It also allows you to bookmark GET form results, such as google's search page and replace the important part with a "%s". Once you do this all of your autocomplete results will have that bookmark at the bottom and selecting it will replace what you typed with the %s in the url. Hard to explain, but it's damn easy to use.
You could always leave slashdot, there may be better websites for you.
Many people, probably many slashdot readers, understand that most muslims are peace loving and have no interest in killing us. There are people there who hate us, just like you've shown there are people here who hate them. It's usually the ones who know nothing about one another that choose to hate.
But I guess not wanting to commit genocide of a race is anti-American and too liberal for you, so I'll end my post here.
Definitely. I think my next laptop will be a Dell. My friend has had two Dell laptops now and they are put together very nicely. I have another friend with a Toshiba and he hasn't had the physical problems I've had, but he has had plenty of other problems.
Toshiba seems to just throw their stuff together and put it to market whether or not it is a good product. My friend's constantly shut off and had all kinds of quirks. After spending a crap load of time he finally got them to send him a different laptop, which I think works.
I was about to say the same thing. I have a satellite 1755 or something like that, don't have it in front of me to check. Almost immediately after buying it I wore palm marks from resting my palms while typing. At first I thought I was just greasy or something but no no, it wasn't my hygiene, it was the paint wearing off on the laptop.
Soon after I started noticing hairline cracks along the plastic covering the display's hinges. There were also always cracking noises now and then when opening the display up. It has been about 2 years now and the hinges are totally shot, the plastic has actually fallen off of one exposing metal which was deformed and I had to clip before I could shut and open the display. The display now has no support from the hinges, if I open it up it will just fall backwards more times than not, so I need to have a wall or something behidn the laptop while using it.
From this experience I have learned to never ever buy another Toshiba. I do understand that mine was an economy model, about $1,200 at the time. Yet I should be able to buy a product and have some confidence in it. Maybe their more expensive line is better but I don't care to find out, they screwed me over and I will not buy another one of their products because of it.
Much of the article mentioned Sanders saying that not letting Microsoft bundle their software with the OS would fragment the Windows operating system, which I totally don't understand. And to make it even more puzzling to me, he said that this fragmentation would make it harder for companies like AMD to support the operating system. Would someone kindly explain to me how letting people use competing web browsers or media playing programs would make it harder for AMD to make chips?
I think one of the more interesting parts of the article is at the bottom: "Microsoft's development of reliable and scalable server operating systems has enabled AMD to enter and compete more effectively in the server businesses...because most non-Microsoft server operating systems only run on specialized microprocessors," he testified.
I read this as AMD wanting Microsoft to be able to continue its illegal business practices as the more people who use Windows, the more potential AMD customers. And I think AMD might be scared that if Microsoft had to play fairly that would open people up to other non-x86 platforms.
He was not talking about a standard look, he was talking about a standard for writing themes. So that a theme written for gtk+ would work fine with qt, and vice versa.
This would fix the problem of some programs looking different then others. Well, most programs.
Tarkin is nowhere near complete and is not very usable yet.
I have no clue where Tarkin is at but this was posted to Gnome's desktop-devel list today:
Subject: Cool news of the Day
From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi dudes,
I just wanted to let you all know that as of yesterday GStreamer has
support for encoding and decoding of Ogg Tarkin video. So now you can
convert all your DivX movies to Ogg Tarkin with the help of GStreamer.
I also think that makes the GStreamer mediaplayer the first mediaplayer
to support Ogg Tarkin:)
I doubt they're marketing this towards college students (and if they are it probably won't work that well).
I could be wrong but it seems that most of the other college students I talk to are somewhat cynical of things like MTV. And there is no way in hell they'd parade around with a PC branded by MTV.
I think this would be more for the 13 year old teenyboppers. Sure, there are probably a few college students that would want to buy a MTV computer, but I doubt that's their market.
Or perhaps I just hang out with people like myself and don't really know how many people would be interested in something like this.
I think anyone who didn't see this coming was fooling themselves simply because they liked the cartoon.
The live action show was not funny at all. The closest I got to a chuckle was when they did a closeup on his face and the antennas would wiggle depending on his emotion. But then that just got creepy.
Now if someone told me they were going to cancel The Family Guy, then I'd be shocked and start talking about bad time slots. But in The Tick's case, it just wasn't funny, sorry.
I think you totally missed the point of this. It's not a lame attempt to make a NextStep look-alike. It is an attempt to recreate the OpenStep API for nice object oriented objective-c programming.
If you want Gtk+ apps with a NextStep theme, then use Gtk+ apps with a NextStep theme, any current linux distro can give you this.
You might be right, although I think there are a lot of people out there that might be interested in trying this.
First off, a lot of people I talk to online use windows and constantly bitch about it crashing or just becoming unbearably slow and unresponsive so that they have to do the daily reboot. These people often use their computer for the simple tasks of talking to people, browsing the web, and downloading and listening to music.
I would love to suggest linux to these people but I feel like it'd almost be a dirty trick, where once they installed it they'd want to know where Word was and I'd have to explain you need to run Linux programs, and that some aren't yet as good as the windows counterparts.
And I think that something like this would give them a nice stable OS and still let them run some of the few windows programs that they use day to day. Maybe they'll even find linux versions that work better.
Of course, the bigger reason I don't suggest linux to these people is because I think a lot of things just aren't up to part for users. Such as printing, changing system settings such as the X resolution. And now there is more and more devices that on windows you can just plug them in and use them (digital cameras for example) but in the linux world there are about 5 steps assuming you even have the right stuff compiled in your kernel.
So it'll be interesting what changes they make to the run-of-the-day linux distro other than enabling running windows executables. Including how they're going to handle the differences in file hierarchies. Eg, how windows programs will think a file is at c:\blah\ but linux programs would think the file is at/windows_files/blah/, that would be very confusing for new users.
* for $100, I could get MS windows and run it natively.
I believe the full version (not the upgrade) of windows is more like 200 bucks.
* for FREE, I could download mandrake linux and run windows apps through wine or VMware.
Wine yes but very few programs actually run properly under wine right now, and it's been that way for a very long time. And usually when a program does work it'll stop working with the next release. VMware on the other hand is not free, and even if it was free you still need a copy of windows, vmware is just like having 2 computers in one.
With that said, I'm pretty sure lindows uses wine, but wine is under the BSD license i believe so they were able to change it and not release the changes.
Well it sounds to me like you're creating your own worries. I have trouble understanding why you'd be a "worried gnome user" because something else might become or is better. Why not just switch then instead of worrying?
With that said, I don't think you should worry about Ximian, much of their work gets added into the vanilla gnome.
My personal opinion of GNOME is that a lot of work is going into two sections right now: great applications (evolution, gnumeric, galeon, abiword), and whole new libraries for gnome 2.0. I think once gnome 2.0 stabilizes many people will be eager to take advantage of the new features and you'll see the desktop itself get many cool new features.
This point is brought up constantly but people seem to prefer to ignore it. When KDE 2 was being worked on many critics were saying KDE must be dying because they weren't seeing the work. You need to understand that such big code changes happen a lot more smoothly without non-programmers trying to use it and complaining about this and that or sending questions on how to get it working. You're just going to have to be patient, or you could just use KDE2 for a while.
No, the transparent menu effect that Mosfet made for his liquid theme (and will now get added to kde 3.0 builtin themes I think) takes a snapshot of the area behind the menu and uses that image to make a pseudo-translucent effect.
Not a very good way of doing it in my opinion, and this becomes clear when you move through the different menus in a menubar, you can see the ghosts of the menu you had previously opened beneath your current menu.
If there is a better way of doing it, I'm not sure what it is, although I think you can do true translucent effects with Keith Packard's XRender extension.
But it doesn't seem that anyone is using that to do translucency so either its really hard to use or theres problems. I'd love to know which it is if anyone has some more information.
PS - No offense to Mosfet or anyone else using this code to do translucent menus, it's a very good idea and I do use it when I'm in KDE. I just think it'd be cool to have it without the little quirks like seeing things behind the menu that shouldn't be there.
heh, actually I think you still do. Doesn't ID just open the source code to the 3D engines but keep the levels only available by buying the game. I thought that was the deal.
What's your problem? Not sure why you are so hostile over a simple question. And the fact that you insult him for not knowing you can do anti-aliasing is just stupid, seeing as gdkxft is an ugly ugly hack.
I should know, I use it myself, many programs such as gaim will often get a double-written type look where it looks like it is trying to render the font twice, usually when I type in the entry box so that it goes to the next line. It also breaks a lot of programs, like mozilla (unless you get the patch), gimp, probably lots of others too.
So to actually answer his question, instead of just being an ass for no reason, yes gnome 2.0 does support very nice anti-aliasing. Some people have said it actually looks better than the Xft stuff that gdkxft and qt use, but not sure if that's true.
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Wow, now that I think about it that really does make sense. I mean why else would they have gone with such small sized media (those mini dvd-rom things).
Doesn't really make since to cut the size of your game discs down so much, especially when your last gaming system was flamed so much for having cartridges that were lacking in space. They must be doing it so when they come out with the portable game cube all the games will still work fine.
Why's that? Although I know that the fact that it's selling the fastest right now doesn't mean it will be the most popular. But I don't see what's wrong with saying that the console that sold the most is the most popular, seems semantically fine to me. After all, a synonym for popular is common. I think if a console has sold more than other consoles it would be more common.
I think people are bitching about it because it's an idiotic way to use transparency. To set the WHOLE window translucent makes no sense, especially w hen the window is the one you're working on.
MacOSX uses alpha blending in a smart way so that it's not confusing, and just plain looks nice.
I agree with your comment on the average slashdot reader though. It's funny how most of them spend so much time denying or making up excuses that they use windows but when a story like this comes along all of a sudden everyone talks about their windows box. I don't have a problem with people using windows, but why pretend you don't when you do?
The problem with that is it's not supported by all the video drivers in XFree86 4.x
For example it just recenty started to support my Rage Mobility LM chipset, before that I had no RENDER support so stuff like anti-aliased fonts in KDE wouldn't work.
And I *think* that's the reason why people aren't really using it for transparency and stuff. Cause if it's not supported on a persons computer I'm not sure if there is a nice clean way to handle that. I keep hearing about how they can't add it to stuff like KDE or GNOME because so many people wouldn't be able to use it.
What I really want to know is why someone hasn't put together a special terminal emulator that uses this. Because then just the people who have the render extension could download it and use it, and the people who can't will just have to hope that at some time they'll get RENDER support too.
Perhaps I should look into that, but I think it's a little too advanced for me to take on.
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Try this, right click on your panel then go:
Add To Panel -> Button -> Screenshot
works on my Gnome (Debian Unstable).
Also, if you have a menubar type of panel it should include an "Actions" menu which has Take a Screenshot.
One annoying thing about this screenshot program is there is no way I can see to take a single window's screenshot. GIMP can do that or just use xwd like someone else suggested.
Your comments on the bookmarks sytem use to be true, but they now have a bookmarks menu item like other browsers. The bookmarks system still works how it use to, categorize bookmarks into topics. This means each topic will show up as a bookmark folder in your bookmark list, and you can't have it deeper than 1 folder.
There is an option to open links in tabs by default. Which I have turned on and clicking the middle mouse button on links opens them in tabs. Not sure if that is what you wanted.
As far as the total idea of your post, I kind of agree. The epiphany developers seem to be going overboard with the less options is better philosophy. I understand it but when they took out the fine-grained popup blocking options and just replaced it with an "Allow Popups" checkbox I got pretty pissed. I mean what does this mean, will all popups be gone, will unrequested onLoad type of popups be gone? This is important stuff that they thumb their nose at.
I do like the interface better than galeon though. I have learned to love the bookmark system which you bashed. The coolest thing about it is that it is integrated with the URL autocomplete so typing a name of a topic, for example "news" would have the autocomplete choices be your bookmarks in the news topic. Very cool. It also allows you to bookmark GET form results, such as google's search page and replace the important part with a "%s". Once you do this all of your autocomplete results will have that bookmark at the bottom and selecting it will replace what you typed with the %s in the url. Hard to explain, but it's damn easy to use.
No, wanting to kill off a race of people cause they are "filthy" is why I made ties to the klu klux klan.
You could always leave slashdot, there may be better websites for you.
Many people, probably many slashdot readers, understand that most muslims are peace loving and have no interest in killing us. There are people there who hate us, just like you've shown there are people here who hate them. It's usually the ones who know nothing about one another that choose to hate.
But I guess not wanting to commit genocide of a race is anti-American and too liberal for you, so I'll end my post here.
Definitely. I think my next laptop will be a Dell. My friend has had two Dell laptops now and they are put together very nicely. I have another friend with a Toshiba and he hasn't had the physical problems I've had, but he has had plenty of other problems.
Toshiba seems to just throw their stuff together and put it to market whether or not it is a good product. My friend's constantly shut off and had all kinds of quirks. After spending a crap load of time he finally got them to send him a different laptop, which I think works.
I was about to say the same thing. I have a satellite 1755 or something like that, don't have it in front of me to check. Almost immediately after buying it I wore palm marks from resting my palms while typing. At first I thought I was just greasy or something but no no, it wasn't my hygiene, it was the paint wearing off on the laptop.
Soon after I started noticing hairline cracks along the plastic covering the display's hinges. There were also always cracking noises now and then when opening the display up. It has been about 2 years now and the hinges are totally shot, the plastic has actually fallen off of one exposing metal which was deformed and I had to clip before I could shut and open the display. The display now has no support from the hinges, if I open it up it will just fall backwards more times than not, so I need to have a wall or something behidn the laptop while using it.
From this experience I have learned to never ever buy another Toshiba. I do understand that mine was an economy model, about $1,200 at the time. Yet I should be able to buy a product and have some confidence in it. Maybe their more expensive line is better but I don't care to find out, they screwed me over and I will not buy another one of their products because of it.
So you're going to ditch a distrubition because of the default theme setting? You do realize you can easily go get new themes for KDE/GNOME, right?
That's easy to answer, you don't. It is not Free Software, so if you're pure you don't use it.
Otherwise, I believe you could find it in a normal windows installation.
Much of the article mentioned Sanders saying that not letting Microsoft bundle their software with the OS would fragment the Windows operating system, which I totally don't understand. And to make it even more puzzling to me, he said that this fragmentation would make it harder for companies like AMD to support the operating system. Would someone kindly explain to me how letting people use competing web browsers or media playing programs would make it harder for AMD to make chips?
I think one of the more interesting parts of the article is at the bottom:
"Microsoft's development of reliable and scalable server operating systems has enabled AMD to enter and compete more effectively in the server businesses...because most non-Microsoft server operating systems only run on specialized microprocessors," he testified.
I read this as AMD wanting Microsoft to be able to continue its illegal business practices as the more people who use Windows, the more potential AMD customers. And I think AMD might be scared that if Microsoft had to play fairly that would open people up to other non-x86 platforms.
Just out of curiosity, did you read RMS' post?
He was not talking about a standard look, he was talking about a standard for writing themes. So that a theme written for gtk+ would work fine with qt, and vice versa.
This would fix the problem of some programs looking different then others. Well, most programs.
Tarkin is nowhere near complete and is not very usable yet.
:)
I have no clue where Tarkin is at but this was posted to Gnome's desktop-devel list today:
Subject: Cool news of the Day
From: Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller
Hi dudes,
I just wanted to let you all know that as of yesterday GStreamer has
support for encoding and decoding of Ogg Tarkin video. So now you can
convert all your DivX movies to Ogg Tarkin with the help of GStreamer.
I also think that makes the GStreamer mediaplayer the first mediaplayer
to support Ogg Tarkin
Christian
I doubt they're marketing this towards college students (and if they are it probably won't work that well).
I could be wrong but it seems that most of the other college students I talk to are somewhat cynical of things like MTV. And there is no way in hell they'd parade around with a PC branded by MTV.
I think this would be more for the 13 year old teenyboppers. Sure, there are probably a few college students that would want to buy a MTV computer, but I doubt that's their market.
Or perhaps I just hang out with people like myself and don't really know how many people would be interested in something like this.
I think anyone who didn't see this coming was fooling themselves simply because they liked the cartoon.
The live action show was not funny at all. The closest I got to a chuckle was when they did a closeup on his face and the antennas would wiggle depending on his emotion. But then that just got creepy.
Now if someone told me they were going to cancel The Family Guy, then I'd be shocked and start talking about bad time slots. But in The Tick's case, it just wasn't funny, sorry.
I think you totally missed the point of this. It's not a lame attempt to make a NextStep look-alike. It is an attempt to recreate the OpenStep API for nice object oriented objective-c programming.
If you want Gtk+ apps with a NextStep theme, then use Gtk+ apps with a NextStep theme, any current linux distro can give you this.
You might be right, although I think there are a lot of people out there that might be interested in trying this.
/windows_files/blah/, that would be very confusing for new users.
First off, a lot of people I talk to online use windows and constantly bitch about it crashing or just becoming unbearably slow and unresponsive so that they have to do the daily reboot. These people often use their computer for the simple tasks of talking to people, browsing the web, and downloading and listening to music.
I would love to suggest linux to these people but I feel like it'd almost be a dirty trick, where once they installed it they'd want to know where Word was and I'd have to explain you need to run Linux programs, and that some aren't yet as good as the windows counterparts.
And I think that something like this would give them a nice stable OS and still let them run some of the few windows programs that they use day to day. Maybe they'll even find linux versions that work better.
Of course, the bigger reason I don't suggest linux to these people is because I think a lot of things just aren't up to part for users. Such as printing, changing system settings such as the X resolution. And now there is more and more devices that on windows you can just plug them in and use them (digital cameras for example) but in the linux world there are about 5 steps assuming you even have the right stuff compiled in your kernel.
So it'll be interesting what changes they make to the run-of-the-day linux distro other than enabling running windows executables. Including how they're going to handle the differences in file hierarchies. Eg, how windows programs will think a file is at c:\blah\ but linux programs would think the file is at
* for $100, I could get MS windows and run it natively.
I believe the full version (not the upgrade) of windows is more like 200 bucks.
* for FREE, I could download mandrake linux and run windows apps through wine or VMware.
Wine yes but very few programs actually run properly under wine right now, and it's been that way for a very long time. And usually when a program does work it'll stop working with the next release. VMware on the other hand is not free, and even if it was free you still need a copy of windows, vmware is just like having 2 computers in one.
With that said, I'm pretty sure lindows uses wine, but wine is under the BSD license i believe so they were able to change it and not release the changes.
Well it sounds to me like you're creating your own worries. I have trouble understanding why you'd be a "worried gnome user" because something else might become or is better. Why not just switch then instead of worrying?
With that said, I don't think you should worry about Ximian, much of their work gets added into the vanilla gnome.
My personal opinion of GNOME is that a lot of work is going into two sections right now: great applications (evolution, gnumeric, galeon, abiword), and whole new libraries for gnome 2.0. I think once gnome 2.0 stabilizes many people will be eager to take advantage of the new features and you'll see the desktop itself get many cool new features.
This point is brought up constantly but people seem to prefer to ignore it. When KDE 2 was being worked on many critics were saying KDE must be dying because they weren't seeing the work. You need to understand that such big code changes happen a lot more smoothly without non-programmers trying to use it and complaining about this and that or sending questions on how to get it working. You're just going to have to be patient, or you could just use KDE2 for a while.
No, the transparent menu effect that Mosfet made for his liquid theme (and will now get added to kde 3.0 builtin themes I think) takes a snapshot of the area behind the menu and uses that image to make a pseudo-translucent effect.
Not a very good way of doing it in my opinion, and this becomes clear when you move through the different menus in a menubar, you can see the ghosts of the menu you had previously opened beneath your current menu.
If there is a better way of doing it, I'm not sure what it is, although I think you can do true translucent effects with Keith Packard's XRender extension.
But it doesn't seem that anyone is using that to do translucency so either its really hard to use or theres problems. I'd love to know which it is if anyone has some more information.
PS - No offense to Mosfet or anyone else using this code to do translucent menus, it's a very good idea and I do use it when I'm in KDE. I just think it'd be cool to have it without the little quirks like seeing things behind the menu that shouldn't be there.
heh, actually I think you still do. Doesn't ID just open the source code to the 3D engines but keep the levels only available by buying the game. I thought that was the deal.
What's your problem? Not sure why you are so hostile over a simple question. And the fact that you insult him for not knowing you can do anti-aliasing is just stupid, seeing as gdkxft is an ugly ugly hack.
I should know, I use it myself, many programs such as gaim will often get a double-written type look where it looks like it is trying to render the font twice, usually when I type in the entry box so that it goes to the next line. It also breaks a lot of programs, like mozilla (unless you get the patch), gimp, probably lots of others too.
So to actually answer his question, instead of just being an ass for no reason, yes gnome 2.0 does support very nice anti-aliasing. Some people have said it actually looks better than the Xft stuff that gdkxft and qt use, but not sure if that's true.
Wow, now that I think about it that really does make sense. I mean why else would they have gone with such small sized media (those mini dvd-rom things).
Doesn't really make since to cut the size of your game discs down so much, especially when your last gaming system was flamed so much for having cartridges that were lacking in space. They must be doing it so when they come out with the portable game cube all the games will still work fine.
Interesting.
Why's that? Although I know that the fact that it's selling the fastest right now doesn't mean it will be the most popular. But I don't see what's wrong with saying that the console that sold the most is the most popular, seems semantically fine to me. After all, a synonym for popular is common. I think if a console has sold more than other consoles it would be more common.
Or maybe there is something I'm missing?
Fortunately most people in a video game store are like 12, so I can destroy them with my mind bullets.
I hope you're not putting on the pounds, cause you're in danger of turning into the fat comic store guy from the Simpsons.
I think people are bitching about it because it's an idiotic way to use transparency. To set the WHOLE window translucent makes no sense, especially w hen the window is the one you're working on.
MacOSX uses alpha blending in a smart way so that it's not confusing, and just plain looks nice.
I agree with your comment on the average slashdot reader though. It's funny how most of them spend so much time denying or making up excuses that they use windows but when a story like this comes along all of a sudden everyone talks about their windows box. I don't have a problem with people using windows, but why pretend you don't when you do?
The problem with that is it's not supported by all the video drivers in XFree86 4.x
For example it just recenty started to support my Rage Mobility LM chipset, before that I had no RENDER support so stuff like anti-aliased fonts in KDE wouldn't work.
And I *think* that's the reason why people aren't really using it for transparency and stuff. Cause if it's not supported on a persons computer I'm not sure if there is a nice clean way to handle that. I keep hearing about how they can't add it to stuff like KDE or GNOME because so many people wouldn't be able to use it.
What I really want to know is why someone hasn't put together a special terminal emulator that uses this. Because then just the people who have the render extension could download it and use it, and the people who can't will just have to hope that at some time they'll get RENDER support too.
Perhaps I should look into that, but I think it's a little too advanced for me to take on.