re: 3rd party support - it didn't help that most of the documentation was non-existant. Notice that not ONE game post-Warner-Atari used the sound chip required to go beyond the 2600's capabilties (like BallBlazer and other pre-meltdown games)? Gak.
Here's a goodie from one of the game conferences in the Bay Area, the lead designer (whose name just lept out of my brain) at CGC who designed the thing reported that the industrial designer who made the outer shell of the 7800 was fired personally by Trammel who threw the console at him and screamed that they (Atari) "would only be a computer company from now on". When the warehouse sold out if it's stockpile, Jack needed the mold diagrams to fabricate new ones - which were in the posession of the fired designer (lest they have to make expensive casts from the completed product).
The designer declined. Several times in fact. Often quite rudely. This is called "just deserts" in some cultures - "karma" in others.
Correct - it doesn't have online play. They players don't have legs either some of the time - but it's not about game graphics depicting legs - it's about the gameplay:
They left out stunners like the TurboGraphix Handheld (another battery chomper and mondo expensive portable), the Sega Master System (utterly clobbered by Nintendo, and run into the ground by Tonka), and - although I liked mine initially - the Atari 7800, a nice system if anyone knew how to program the damn thing (which no one did) after Warner sold Atari up the river. Most cynical warehouse clearance con-job by the Trammels EVER.
"The game doesn't look very good. I don't just mean it doesn't look like Gears of War either, I mean it doesn't even look good for a GC game and let's be honest here that's what we're talking about. I've seen beautiful games on the Cube. Crystal Chronicles, Wind Waker and Resident Evil 4 were all incredible looking games. Twilight Princess can't really compare to any of them. So he's right about that"
Granted they go onto defend the playability - but other - if not MOST of the other games for the Wii won't have the insane genius of Shigeru Miyamoto behind them. If you can be happy with 3-4 games that have that kind of brilliance behind them for the life of your system, with downgraded graphics for the rest, then happy times. I'm going to take delivery of a paintbrush with more firepower for developers to explore and exploit over the long-term.
The biggest beef I have with the Wii is that Nintendo has been VERY mum on the tech specs for its system. I strongly suspect it's a GameCube with beefed up memory. In which case, you'd be better off getting a 99-dollar Gamecube and putting the rest of your 150 in change to new games.
Well actually, it's not so much home turf as much as the area which is a gadget freaks paradise. Now - if you COULDN'T sell there - then you'd have some news.
Oh wait - Microsoft failed to do just that - TWICE.
"Last week, the government reported that the overall, seasonally adjusted civilian national unemployment rate for October fell to 4.4 percent, the lowest level in 5½ years."
Ja, it was the explorer that got the most attention, but the Jeep Wrangler and other SUV's were affected. Plus Jeep has been dodging rollover lawsuits for years as well.
I'm glad that Sony stepped up to the plate to the tune of half a billion and issued free recalls ahead of the curve. In the USA they'd deny for another year or more and duck and cover until the govt mandated a recall or untill the lawsuits piled up (if C isn't higher than the cost of a recall - we won't do one).
But of course - for the Sony haters - them fixing a (serious) problem is a bad thing.
To that I say - go fuck yourselves, and I hope your dog dies while your grandmother gets cornholed while circus clowns mastrubate.
Considering that the PS2 is STILL outselling every console out there - including the 360 - it's a pretty good move. I'll probably even get the PS2 port of Vice City Stories when it comes out next year sometime just because it'd be nice to play the missions on the big-screen. The music is probably the best in the franchise as well.
Plus - although they improved some of the Liberty City Stories control shortcomings on the PSP, some missions are nice with the Dual-Shock controllers (vehicle racing missions particularly).
This franchise is pretty much what has kept me from the Wii. Plus the idea that something as groundbreaking might appear on the PS3 much like GTA did on the PS2. Call me a Wii hater (I like Nintendo keeping the industry fresh) but a million Mario derivations seems tired to me.
It's a geek love fete mostly. There's something novel about having been in the PS2 line at the Metreon (where line passes were issued for meals, rest room trips etc) and having seen/been one of a horde of nerdcore game geeks charging en-masse for the bars.
Funds required for subscriptions and lots of lube.
It'll be a long hard research project, but I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. I'll be pulling as much data as possible and putting it all out there for everyone.
Send your contributions in a plain brown bag to behind the water pipe - men's room - Grand Central Station, NYC. Thank you.
The NYT reported the week of the deal that the music labels got shares ahead of the buy to compensate their music video libraries being online as well as future revenue sharing on ads.
Some rumor.
What - did it have to be on the front page to qualify as reported?
So you'd rather Sony didn't do the recall but rather play the American blame game on other companies or vendors - pay some minimal fines and send out enough defensive lawyers that no one gets restitution - and let people enjoy their burning cars, houses, planes.
At least - finally - an article put launch woes into context. The PS2 had a TERRIBLE launch. It was so ridiculed that SEGA's Dreamcast advertising took aim at it with the "tongue" series of ads (a kid sticking out his tongue) - 3 months after the ad ran - the Dreamcast was cast off.
Launch means nothing to Japanese companies, and the history books. They will stick it out until they dominate. The fact that the PS2 sales STILL dominate makes that point clear as well as the 100 plus million units sold.
Slashdot Mirror
re: 3rd party support - it didn't help that most of the documentation was non-existant. Notice that not ONE game post-Warner-Atari used the sound chip required to go beyond the 2600's capabilties (like BallBlazer and other pre-meltdown games)? Gak.
Here's a goodie from one of the game conferences in the Bay Area, the lead designer (whose name just lept out of my brain) at CGC who designed the thing reported that the industrial designer who made the outer shell of the 7800 was fired personally by Trammel who threw the console at him and screamed that they (Atari) "would only be a computer company from now on". When the warehouse sold out if it's stockpile, Jack needed the mold diagrams to fabricate new ones - which were in the posession of the fired designer (lest they have to make expensive casts from the completed product).
The designer declined. Several times in fact. Often quite rudely. This is called "just deserts" in some cultures - "karma" in others.
Right - this never happened in the old days. When my Colecovision SO PWNED your sucky 2600. I blame George Plimpton for starting the whole mess.
Correct - it doesn't have online play. They players don't have legs either some of the time - but it's not about game graphics depicting legs - it's about the gameplay:
http://wii.ign.com/articles/745/745708p1.html
Oh you mean like this "revolutionary" controller from Nintendo?:
3 926199.html
http://media.wii.ign.com/articles/733/733464/img_
In Wii's defense, I can't stand non-symetrical dual joystick controllers, so it's nice to see them using Sony as a model.
They left out stunners like the TurboGraphix Handheld (another battery chomper and mondo expensive portable), the Sega Master System (utterly clobbered by Nintendo, and run into the ground by Tonka), and - although I liked mine initially - the Atari 7800, a nice system if anyone knew how to program the damn thing (which no one did) after Warner sold Atari up the river. Most cynical warehouse clearance con-job by the Trammels EVER.
#1 Wii.
Bad feedback coming in for Zelda. Most telling is:
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
"The game doesn't look very good. I don't just mean it doesn't look like Gears of War either, I mean it doesn't even look good for a GC game and let's be honest here that's what we're talking about. I've seen beautiful games on the Cube. Crystal Chronicles, Wind Waker and Resident Evil 4 were all incredible looking games. Twilight Princess can't really compare to any of them. So he's right about that"
Granted they go onto defend the playability - but other - if not MOST of the other games for the Wii won't have the insane genius of Shigeru Miyamoto behind them. If you can be happy with 3-4 games that have that kind of brilliance behind them for the life of your system, with downgraded graphics for the rest, then happy times. I'm going to take delivery of a paintbrush with more firepower for developers to explore and exploit over the long-term.
The biggest beef I have with the Wii is that Nintendo has been VERY mum on the tech specs for its system. I strongly suspect it's a GameCube with beefed up memory. In which case, you'd be better off getting a 99-dollar Gamecube and putting the rest of your 150 in change to new games.
Well actually, it's not so much home turf as much as the area which is a gadget freaks paradise. Now - if you COULDN'T sell there - then you'd have some news.
Oh wait - Microsoft failed to do just that - TWICE.
Except you can only buy one in most lines. Going to stand in 2?
Perhaps if we cut you right down the middle into 2 descrete halves. Oh shoot you turned into a pile of meat, and ick - look at the goo.
Fine, here's another indicator:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15636348/
"Last week, the government reported that the overall, seasonally adjusted civilian national unemployment rate for October fell to 4.4 percent, the lowest level in 5½ years."
Not as bad as you think.
Ja, it was the explorer that got the most attention, but the Jeep Wrangler and other SUV's were affected. Plus Jeep has been dodging rollover lawsuits for years as well.
I'm glad that Sony stepped up to the plate to the tune of half a billion and issued free recalls ahead of the curve. In the USA they'd deny for another year or more and duck and cover until the govt mandated a recall or untill the lawsuits piled up (if C isn't higher than the cost of a recall - we won't do one).
But of course - for the Sony haters - them fixing a (serious) problem is a bad thing.
To that I say - go fuck yourselves, and I hope your dog dies while your grandmother gets cornholed while circus clowns mastrubate.
BOOMING? The Nasdaq tanked in March of 2000. Then again, booming is a great word for it.
By the way - you did see the DOWs numbers lately haven't you? Job market compared to the dot-com crash days?
Fuck - you're quite the retard - aren't you? Enjoy your Wii fanboy troll. PS3 people want to talk now.
re:"If you had problems with the PS2, expect more from the ps3."
Bought mine on launch day in San Francisco. It still works great. By your prediction, I should be - very - happy. Thanks!
So you're suggesting that consumers shouldnt have had their exploding batteries replaced for free? Who the fuck do you work for FIRESTONE and JEEP?
Crash and burn motherfucker.
Considering that the PS2 is STILL outselling every console out there - including the 360 - it's a pretty good move. I'll probably even get the PS2 port of Vice City Stories when it comes out next year sometime just because it'd be nice to play the missions on the big-screen. The music is probably the best in the franchise as well.
Plus - although they improved some of the Liberty City Stories control shortcomings on the PSP, some missions are nice with the Dual-Shock controllers (vehicle racing missions particularly).
This franchise is pretty much what has kept me from the Wii. Plus the idea that something as groundbreaking might appear on the PS3 much like GTA did on the PS2. Call me a Wii hater (I like Nintendo keeping the industry fresh) but a million Mario derivations seems tired to me.
You forgot:
#7 - dodge the people yelling "faker" who read this post on slashdot who then encourage the crowd to stomp your ass.
It's a geek love fete mostly. There's something novel about having been in the PS2 line at the Metreon (where line passes were issued for meals, rest room trips etc) and having seen/been one of a horde of nerdcore game geeks charging en-masse for the bars.
And yes - you had to be there.
Return to Castle Wolfenstein: MP - Beach
So damn perfect, most decent servers keep it on all the time.
I propose a Web PRON initiative.
Funds required for subscriptions and lots of lube.
It'll be a long hard research project, but I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty. I'll be pulling as much data as possible and putting it all out there for everyone.
Send your contributions in a plain brown bag to behind the water pipe - men's room - Grand Central Station, NYC. Thank you.
What Jesus freak called this joke flamebait?
Probably voted for Bush too.
Fuck you moderator.
Let's jazz this baby up a bit. Needs a catchy angle to get onto the wire-services.
Let's call the Virus "Jesus".
That'll get-em rolling in the aisles. Hallalujia
The NYT reported the week of the deal that the music labels got shares ahead of the buy to compensate their music video libraries being online as well as future revenue sharing on ads.
Some rumor.
What - did it have to be on the front page to qualify as reported?
So you'd rather Sony didn't do the recall but rather play the American blame game on other companies or vendors - pay some minimal fines and send out enough defensive lawyers that no one gets restitution - and let people enjoy their burning cars, houses, planes.
You must be fun at parties.
At least - finally - an article put launch woes into context. The PS2 had a TERRIBLE launch. It was so ridiculed that SEGA's Dreamcast advertising took aim at it with the "tongue" series of ads (a kid sticking out his tongue) - 3 months after the ad ran - the Dreamcast was cast off.
Launch means nothing to Japanese companies, and the history books. They will stick it out until they dominate. The fact that the PS2 sales STILL dominate makes that point clear as well as the 100 plus million units sold.
It'll be fun to watch - and play.