I'd say nerds were aware of these flaws a long time ago. They chose not to make the whole world aware of this, since it helped catch criminals that continued to used these tools. this is probably only news for the criminals using the tools, which will probably mean that catching them will be more difficult in the future.
Judging from the amount of comments thus far (about 7) I think that this "story" surely has to rate as one of the biggest in/.'s history. The lack of comments, to me, indicates that the entire population of nerds across the world are dumbfounded by the article's revelation and that they are collectively lost for words to express their dismay.
Why is everyone (or nearly everyone) assuming that the person in question is already a paid programmer? Most of the answers are along the lines of "you're a paid programmer, learning a new syntax is easy". But, that's not how I read the summary.
This statement jumps out at me:
But suddenly, in this tight financial environment I need to find a way to get paid for programming, and perl seems so "yesterday".
To me this suggests that the poster has NOT been working as a programmer for the last 50 years, but has been working doing something else. Does this change or influence what helpful answers might be?
But from my admittedly basic understanding of mathematics it should be possible to express anything; even if the thing that's being expressed makes no sense whatsoever. From a programming (algorithmic) perspective it's very easy to come up with a "model" of something that doesn't exists at all. All states of this imaginary model would of course be valid, given the parameters of the model, and valid when using the model itself as a reference. How is "extending" formulas in mathematics different? How is coming up with a '[...] theory we've come up with is simply for velocities greater than the speed of light' saying anything at all apart from their formulas "work" (whatever that means). Going a step back, though, is that even a theory at all? Doesn't sound like one to me. Maybe a hypothesis, if stated differently, but surely not a theory.
Actually, 99% of people in real life are stupid as well. Maybe I am just intolerant of idiots and being surround by them.
Not you, of course.
Thanks
"Surround by them"? You are one of the 99% you stupid retard. Now, get the fuck away from me and let me engage with the 1% who are not fucking idiots. I have no time for you and your kind. And, before you ask, let me answer: "yes I am like this in real life as well."
Actually, 99% of people in real life are stupid as well. Maybe I am just intolerant of idiots and being surround by them.
Not you, of course.
Thanks
"Surround by them"? You are one of the 99% you stupid retard. Now, get the fuck away from me and let me engage with the 1% who are not fucking idiots. I have no time for you and your kind. And, before you ask, let me answer: "yes I am like this in real life as well."
This is not the same as the Dr Dobbs of 1994, 1995 and prior:-(
WTF is going to happen next? A description of using a text file to write down high level concepts then inserting indented lines that break the concepts into even more pieces? Then, indent again and break down even further! You could even call the non-indented lines functions, the lines with one indent a function as well, and the lines with 3 or more indents pseudocode for the functions! Maybe you could even use this text file to produce comments for the code. I think I am onto something.
It seems like the more mainstream things become the more our past is lost.
No, you're just romanticising the past. Trolls have always just been assholes looking to piss people off for fun. Just like this kid, as a game.
Pissing someone off (in the end) without overtly doing it might be a troll. Being an obvious asshole isn't being a troll. Trolling doesn't include being a total fuckwit (like the boy in the article). What the boy in the article did was not trolling; it was abuse and harassment.
Yep, I agree. The article seems more like a troll than the alleged troll the article talks about (the "alleged troll" is not a troll at all but a case of abuse or harassment).
I'd like to add that possibly satire is more align with trolling. A lot of The Onion articles are "trolls". To the initiated they illicit a response based on a falsehood. That's a troll.
If you want to see a good troll, read some of the threads started by roman_mir.
Not only is good trolling rare, but no one even knows what trolling is anymore! Someone isn't trolling just because they say something you disagree with. I can say with certainty that although I disagree with roman_mir, there are people who genuinely have similar 'extremist' views.
I began to write a new comment saying pretty much the same thing as you. Since you've almost nailed it, I decided to reply to your comment instead. So, l will reiterate. Nobody knows what trolling is anymore! They don't. Being abusive is trolling. Saying something controversial isn't trolling. Trolling is leading the person to believe what you're saying or showing them, or leading them into a trap, and then, although not compulsory, making them look like a damn fool. This is quite distinct to saying something like "you're a gay horse". I dunno what a gay horse is, but let's pretend it's offensive. That example is an insult, not a troll at all. The media doesn't know what a "troll" is. They label people who bombard people with insults as trolls. The people who do that are not trolls. Trolls are much more subtle and often *funny*. Maybe it's going to end up like the hacker vs. cracker shit. It seems like the more mainstream things become the more our past is lost.
Clarissa here... sorry Psychotria, I'm sure you are a decent catch, like all slashdot trolls, but I'm already involved in an illicit and steamy relationship with Denise and Sheena. So far all we do is make out, take baths together and model lingerie for each other, but I have a strong feeling something deeper may develop.
Thanks for the reply, Clarissa. This is indeed wonderful news! Of course I will participate in a 4-way affair between you, Denise, Sheena, and myself! Never in my wildest dreams did I dare contemplate such an exotic relationship. I, too, think that something deeper may develop between the 4 of us.
The only thing I ask is that you girls treat me gently. This is my first adventure out of the basement and although I am filled with ecstasy by your offer I do have to admit that I am nervous as well.
I have written a poem for you: "Your eyes, like sapphires". Umm, that's as far as I've got.
I've made jokes in this thread about the company profile but I am now wondering if it's a troll in more way than one. Is this a real company that is patent trolling? Or, is it a troll about patent trolling? I am starting to get confused. Surely a real patent troll would create a more professional company profile (??) Surely a company going to court, even in Texas (wherever that is), would have a more "professional" website. Is it April 1st?
Attorney: Judge, we would like to put our QA Coordinator on the stand as an expert witness. Judge: Darren Hampton, please take the stand. Judge: Please describe your role at the company and your formal qualifications. Darren: I am an eclectic fellow, but despite myself being risk averse I often put myself in a great deal of minor peril. Judge: Please proceed. Darren: Although I am am coordinator, I normally lack the qualities of a coordinated individual. I burst into laughter at the slightest provocation. Judge: Understood. Darren: *bursts out laughing* Judge: *bashes Darren on the head with his gavel* Darren: Sorry, sir. The danger I pose to myself is insurmountable and I cannot find a way to escape my own person or the hilarious occurrences that seem to develop daily. Judge: Are you retarded? Darren: I like to partake in the listening of mind-blowing techno. I especially likes the parts where it goes "wob wob wob." Judge: Next witness please. Darren: Wait. Judge: Ok. Darren: I have a deep addiction to Team Fortress 2. I also don't like stepping on Legos (sic) without shoes./me jerks. Judge: Next witness. Court Dude: Sheena Walker, please take the stand. Sheena: Oh, hai! Judge: Sheena, please describe your experience and formal qualifications. Sheena: I love research! Yay! My favourite holidy is St. Patricks Day and I luuuv green and light green. Like shamrocks, you know. Judge: Continue. Sheena: Like, yeah. What was I saying? Oh yeah! I love my Mini Schnauzer, Missy, to death! Yeah! Sheena: I once took a picture of a sunset! Judge: What has this got to do with the case. Sheena: Hey, judgie. I love Big Brother. I once had a piano in my ear! I went to the, yeah, University of Texas! Yeah. I didn't finish but I think I want to one day. I have been debating this with myself. Judge: You talk to yourself? Sheena: No, Judgie, I debate with myself. Anyway, hey, in the meantime I am learning like lots.
I would like to add: Clarissa, if you're reading this I'd do you. Definitely. I don't care about the colour of your hair. You're a hot diggety dog! *KISS*
Yes, but what does age have to do with it? This guy, for example, is obviously a leader in his field.
Darren Hampton: Quality Assurance Coordinator
Darren Hampton is an eclectic fellow. Despite being risk averse, he often puts himself in a great deal of minor peril. He is PersonalWeb's Quality Assurance Coordinator, but normally lacks the qualities of a coordinated individual.
The guy bursts into laughter at the slightest provocation, which leads to a very bruised noggin as he loses control of his flailing cranial structure. The danger he poses to himself is insurmountable as he cannot find a way to escape his own person or the hilarious occurrences that seem to develop daily.
Besides laughing at things that really have no comical value, he has been known to partake in the listening of mind-blowing techno. He especially likes the parts where it goes “wob wob wob.” He also has a deep addiction to Team Fortress 2 and will likely never free himself of the game. The one thing he hates is stepping on Legos without shoes... and jerks.
If that's not a glowing review of talent and competence, I don't know what is.
I'm sorry on three counts. A) I read the article; B) I read the author's profile; and C) I lost it and disregarded everything I read when the author described himself a cyber-this and cyber-that and having provided commentary on cyber-whatever.
Hell, I bet if you were honest, you would say that you sympathize with his actions (without condoning them).
Don't be ridiculous, for one thing I cannot comprehend why he attacked a labour party camp, apparently all non-Muslims. Secondly even if he had attacked Muslims, this would be descending to their level. As I said, many Muslims disobey the Qur'an and Hadith by living peacefully with non-Muslims and treating them as equal. The security services should be ruthless in dealing with those supporting terror, people certainly shouldn't attack a mass group for the actions and belief of 6% of them.
Emphasis mine. And, you shouldn't attack a group of people for any percentage of them doing something you object to. Apart from being racist you're willingly giving up YOUR rights because of a false belief that because x% of people involved with religion/belief y that censorship and snooping is fine. You are wrong.
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I'd say nerds were aware of these flaws a long time ago. They chose not to make the whole world aware of this, since it helped catch criminals that continued to used these tools. this is probably only news for the criminals using the tools, which will probably mean that catching them will be more difficult in the future.
Judging from the amount of comments thus far (about 7) I think that this "story" surely has to rate as one of the biggest in /.'s history. The lack of comments, to me, indicates that the entire population of nerds across the world are dumbfounded by the article's revelation and that they are collectively lost for words to express their dismay.
But suddenly, in this tight financial environment I need to find a way to get paid for programming, and perl seems so "yesterday".
To me this suggests that the poster has NOT been working as a programmer for the last 50 years, but has been working doing something else. Does this change or influence what helpful answers might be?
But from my admittedly basic understanding of mathematics it should be possible to express anything; even if the thing that's being expressed makes no sense whatsoever. From a programming (algorithmic) perspective it's very easy to come up with a "model" of something that doesn't exists at all. All states of this imaginary model would of course be valid, given the parameters of the model, and valid when using the model itself as a reference. How is "extending" formulas in mathematics different? How is coming up with a '[...] theory we've come up with is simply for velocities greater than the speed of light' saying anything at all apart from their formulas "work" (whatever that means). Going a step back, though, is that even a theory at all? Doesn't sound like one to me. Maybe a hypothesis, if stated differently, but surely not a theory.
Because 99% of the people online are stupid.
Actually, 99% of people in real life are stupid as well. Maybe I am just intolerant of idiots and being surround by them.
Not you, of course.
Thanks
"Surround by them"? You are one of the 99% you stupid retard. Now, get the fuck away from me and let me engage with the 1% who are not fucking idiots. I have no time for you and your kind. And, before you ask, let me answer: "yes I am like this in real life as well."
Kind regards
I actually have an answer for this. Not defending the OP, of course, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKOBqH8pQaQ
What? Say WHAT one more time, mutherfucker! Go on. I dare you.
Because 99% of the people online are stupid.
Actually, 99% of people in real life are stupid as well. Maybe I am just intolerant of idiots and being surround by them.
Not you, of course.
Thanks
"Surround by them"? You are one of the 99% you stupid retard. Now, get the fuck away from me and let me engage with the 1% who are not fucking idiots. I have no time for you and your kind. And, before you ask, let me answer: "yes I am like this in real life as well."
Kind regards
Because 99% of the people online are stupid.
Actually, 99% of people in real life are stupid as well. Maybe I am just intolerant of idiots and being surround by them.
Not you, of course.
Thanks
This is not the same as the Dr Dobbs of 1994, 1995 and prior :-(
WTF is going to happen next? A description of using a text file to write down high level concepts then inserting indented lines that break the concepts into even more pieces? Then, indent again and break down even further! You could even call the non-indented lines functions, the lines with one indent a function as well, and the lines with 3 or more indents pseudocode for the functions! Maybe you could even use this text file to produce comments for the code. I think I am onto something.
It seems like the more mainstream things become the more our past is lost.
No, you're just romanticising the past. Trolls have always just been assholes looking to piss people off for fun. Just like this kid, as a game.
Pissing someone off (in the end) without overtly doing it might be a troll. Being an obvious asshole isn't being a troll. Trolling doesn't include being a total fuckwit (like the boy in the article). What the boy in the article did was not trolling; it was abuse and harassment.
This is a real troll. And a good one (even if it's not true):
http://www.bash.org/?244321
If it's "fakery" and people all over the web fell for it, then that is the real troll ;)
Yep, I agree. The article seems more like a troll than the alleged troll the article talks about (the "alleged troll" is not a troll at all but a case of abuse or harassment).
I'd like to add that possibly satire is more align with trolling. A lot of The Onion articles are "trolls". To the initiated they illicit a response based on a falsehood. That's a troll.
Correction to my post: being abusive isn't trolling.
If you want to see a good troll, read some of the threads started by roman_mir.
Not only is good trolling rare, but no one even knows what trolling is anymore! Someone isn't trolling just because they say something you disagree with. I can say with certainty that although I disagree with roman_mir, there are people who genuinely have similar 'extremist' views.
I began to write a new comment saying pretty much the same thing as you. Since you've almost nailed it, I decided to reply to your comment instead. So, l will reiterate. Nobody knows what trolling is anymore! They don't. Being abusive is trolling. Saying something controversial isn't trolling. Trolling is leading the person to believe what you're saying or showing them, or leading them into a trap, and then, although not compulsory, making them look like a damn fool. This is quite distinct to saying something like "you're a gay horse". I dunno what a gay horse is, but let's pretend it's offensive. That example is an insult, not a troll at all. The media doesn't know what a "troll" is. They label people who bombard people with insults as trolls. The people who do that are not trolls. Trolls are much more subtle and often *funny*. Maybe it's going to end up like the hacker vs. cracker shit. It seems like the more mainstream things become the more our past is lost.
Clarissa here... sorry Psychotria, I'm sure you are a decent catch, like all slashdot trolls, but I'm already involved in an illicit and steamy relationship with Denise and Sheena. So far all we do is make out, take baths together and model lingerie for each other, but I have a strong feeling something deeper may develop.
Thanks for the reply, Clarissa. This is indeed wonderful news! Of course I will participate in a 4-way affair between you, Denise, Sheena, and myself! Never in my wildest dreams did I dare contemplate such an exotic relationship. I, too, think that something deeper may develop between the 4 of us.
The only thing I ask is that you girls treat me gently. This is my first adventure out of the basement and although I am filled with ecstasy by your offer I do have to admit that I am nervous as well.
I have written a poem for you: "Your eyes, like sapphires". Umm, that's as far as I've got.
I don't believe you. I think this whole story is a troll about a troll :(
I've made jokes in this thread about the company profile but I am now wondering if it's a troll in more way than one. Is this a real company that is patent trolling? Or, is it a troll about patent trolling? I am starting to get confused. Surely a real patent troll would create a more professional company profile (??) Surely a company going to court, even in Texas (wherever that is), would have a more "professional" website. Is it April 1st?
Change my username? Like hell! I change my username less than I change my clothes. And the girls, they like it!
Attorney: Judge, we would like to put our QA Coordinator on the stand as an expert witness. /me jerks.
Judge: Darren Hampton, please take the stand.
Judge: Please describe your role at the company and your formal qualifications.
Darren: I am an eclectic fellow, but despite myself being risk averse I often put myself in a great deal of minor peril.
Judge: Please proceed.
Darren: Although I am am coordinator, I normally lack the qualities of a coordinated individual. I burst into laughter at the slightest provocation.
Judge: Understood.
Darren: *bursts out laughing*
Judge: *bashes Darren on the head with his gavel*
Darren: Sorry, sir. The danger I pose to myself is insurmountable and I cannot find a way to escape my own person or the hilarious occurrences that seem to develop daily.
Judge: Are you retarded?
Darren: I like to partake in the listening of mind-blowing techno. I especially likes the parts where it goes "wob wob wob."
Judge: Next witness please.
Darren: Wait.
Judge: Ok.
Darren: I have a deep addiction to Team Fortress 2. I also don't like stepping on Legos (sic) without shoes.
Judge: Next witness.
Court Dude: Sheena Walker, please take the stand.
Sheena: Oh, hai!
Judge: Sheena, please describe your experience and formal qualifications.
Sheena: I love research! Yay! My favourite holidy is St. Patricks Day and I luuuv green and light green. Like shamrocks, you know.
Judge: Continue.
Sheena: Like, yeah. What was I saying? Oh yeah! I love my Mini Schnauzer, Missy, to death! Yeah!
Sheena: I once took a picture of a sunset!
Judge: What has this got to do with the case.
Sheena: Hey, judgie. I love Big Brother. I once had a piano in my ear! I went to the, yeah, University of Texas! Yeah. I didn't finish but I think I want to one day. I have been debating this with myself.
Judge: You talk to yourself?
Sheena: No, Judgie, I debate with myself. Anyway, hey, in the meantime I am learning like lots.
I would like to add: Clarissa, if you're reading this I'd do you. Definitely. I don't care about the colour of your hair. You're a hot diggety dog! *KISS*
Yes, but what does age have to do with it? This guy, for example, is obviously a leader in his field.
Darren Hampton: Quality Assurance Coordinator
Darren Hampton is an eclectic fellow. Despite being risk averse, he often puts himself in a great deal of minor peril. He is PersonalWeb's Quality Assurance Coordinator, but normally lacks the qualities of a coordinated individual.
The guy bursts into laughter at the slightest provocation, which leads to a very bruised noggin as he loses control of his flailing cranial structure. The danger he poses to himself is insurmountable as he cannot find a way to escape his own person or the hilarious occurrences that seem to develop daily.
Besides laughing at things that really have no comical value, he has been known to partake in the listening of mind-blowing techno. He especially likes the parts where it goes “wob wob wob.” He also has a deep addiction to Team Fortress 2 and will likely never free himself of the game. The one thing he hates is stepping on Legos without shoes... and jerks.
If that's not a glowing review of talent and competence, I don't know what is.
Oh, and Clarissa Andrews likes dying her hair!
I propose that a new word is added to the English dictionary: distraction.
I'm sorry on three counts. A) I read the article; B) I read the author's profile; and C) I lost it and disregarded everything I read when the author described himself a cyber-this and cyber-that and having provided commentary on cyber-whatever.
Hell, I bet if you were honest, you would say that you sympathize with his actions (without condoning them).
Don't be ridiculous, for one thing I cannot comprehend why he attacked a labour party camp, apparently all non-Muslims. Secondly even if he had attacked Muslims, this would be descending to their level. As I said, many Muslims disobey the Qur'an and Hadith by living peacefully with non-Muslims and treating them as equal. The security services should be ruthless in dealing with those supporting terror, people certainly shouldn't attack a mass group for the actions and belief of 6% of them.
Emphasis mine. And, you shouldn't attack a group of people for any percentage of them doing something you object to. Apart from being racist you're willingly giving up YOUR rights because of a false belief that because x% of people involved with religion/belief y that censorship and snooping is fine. You are wrong.
If we're talking about my Mother-in-law, I think we all agree the answer is 'no.'
Yes, I know you're joking, but your mother-in-law is (was?) not a species. She was an individual belonging to a species.