And I guess if you'd read the blog (the second link in the article not the third) which the summary is actually referring to, you would know that there is no output from the program written by the "MIT programmer [who] decided to make a Linux C program so simple, she could explain every byte of the assembly".
Well, the case it being tried in the USA. Does it really surprise you that the law or anything else apart from money doesn't matter? And does it really surprise you that the judge didn't make a decision but carried on with semantic bullshit? Yes, I guess that would surprise you if you were a typical American with patriotic ideals and an IQ of 90.
No, they don't. If they sell me the software then I can do whatever the heck I want to with it. Copyright does NOT extend to cover what I can do with a legally purchased item. I do not CARE what the EULA says, because it's not legally binding. To say that Apple has the right to tell me what I can do with my legal purchase is akin to a book publisher trying to impose on me that I cannot read their book in the toilet.
Well, I don't know about you guys but I actually get asked this question quite often. Just the other day I was in a board meeting when my CEO turned to me and whispered in my ear "Do you know how heavy the internet is?" I didn't know the answer and ended up looking like a fool.
it is a total failure, iinet has already provided the communicatino minister with ample evidence of this, but he's commited to being a total idiot it seems.
Yes. But you see what is happening don't you? He (Conroy or his department) is playing with dodgy statistics to put his argument/proposal in the best probable light. "More than half" of the ISPs he surveyed said the filtering was ok. What does that mean? Does that mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs were little players without many customers? Does it mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs are in the government's pockets? Does it mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs are OWNED by the government? I don't know. But these are not reasons being put forward. They (the government) are playing the dodgy statistics game in the hope that the masses will fall for their flawed studies. The masses will fall for it, though. I won't and I will remain pissed off.
More than half of the Internet service providers (ISPs) taking part in the Federal Government's ISP filtering trial have reported minimal speed disruptions or technology problems.
So, in other words, just less than half reported significant speed and technology problems. This entire situation pisses me off! I emailed the minister in charge of this and he didn't even have the decency to reply with a non-canned response. So, all the big ISPs are saying that this will result in big speed disruptions, but the other half (idiot home-run ISPs most likely) are saying it's fine. Gee, I wonder if it's because those ISPs have negligible traffic anyway!
From BBC news [bbc.co.uk] - "But local people, fearing a rave was going to take place after previous events with loud music at the same premises, alerted the police."
In other words, this bunch were notorious around town for partying all through the night, playing loud music and generally being a pain in the ass to everybody else. They may have been just barbequeing when the police showed up, but the locals knew what was comming and decided enough was enough.
Where did you get that they were "notorious around town" from? I don't see mentioned anywhere that the "bunch" were notorious around town for causing trouble. All I see is that a bunch of locals decided that they'd contact police. A bunch of locals giving police "information" is not reason enough for the police to respond in the way they did. Heck, if YOU lived in my neighbourhood I just might be tempted to get me and my friends to make up stories about YOU and get the police to raid your house. How would you like that? Not very much I am guessing.
In case you don't understand what I just said, let me put it in another way. Lets just say I have a bunch of friends here on slashdot and that I got together with them to accuse you of being a troll. All of us (me and my friends) will agree and email the slashdot admins that you're a troll. Upon hearing this, the admins revoke your account and ban you. How would this be right?
south. east. open window. in. west. get lamp and sword. east. up. light lamp. get all. douse lamp. down. west. move rug. open trapdoor. down. light lamp. north. attack troll with sword. again. again. again. again. get axe
Damn you! I've been trying to do this for 20 years and now you've shown me how. You could at least have mentioned "Spoiler Alert".
For the record, the whole lawsuit thing is a joke, and everyone's aware that it's doomed to failure. The problem is that since Zgeek is essentially run by one guy in his spare time, he doesn't have the resources to fight it effectively, so it's better to run away rather than set yourself up for future problems.
I admire your optimism. But just because everyone is aware that it's insane does not mean the lawsuit will fail.
A kernel is pretty much useless without a "userland." OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD are all operating systems. Linux, sorry to say, is not.
Stop trying to redefine the term "Operating System". The rest of what you said might have merit, but once you tried to force your (wrong) interpretation of "Operating System" onto others I lost interest. Please explain to me and others how Linux is not an operating system.
So, before you go on a rant about how many times BSD has been forked, please get your facts straight.
I understand what you're saying, Edlll, and I cannot say I disagree. But my original reply was to a user who seems to have his head so far up his arse that he cannot seem to see the obvious. This discussion is about an established Botnet that appears (from the summary) to be about to self destruct and take all it's "users" with it. zooblethorpe implies that this is a good thing and that the victims are getting what they deserve for using an insecure OS. I, on the other hand, disagree with his comment and think that it (the comment) is bullshit. I also think that he/she is an idiot, based on the comment. To say (in his words) that the users are getting what they deserve is utter rubbish and I cannot believe that his comments is +5. It's an ignorant comment from a person who, through his comments, is stupider than the users he is deriding.
Why don't YOU get a clue? Punishing the user of an insecure OS will not do a damn thing. It will not do a damn thing to increase security. There will just be lots of people who are fucking upset because they lost a whole heaps of important files or memories (e.g. photos). It is not THEIR fault that windows is so fucked up (is it)? So, why do you take delight in them losing their data?
So, I hit YOU with you so called "clue bat" and I hope your meagre brain manages to parse it. I hope you remember this.
If we've got expert witnesses having to look things up to provide testimony on them, what is their value? Especially in light of the supposed factual question.
What are you talking about? If you'd said that relying on information gathered only from Wikipedia calls into credibility of the expert witness, then I'd agree. I have been called on to provide expert testimony several times and I wouldn't have even thought of going into court relying only on my memory. The "value" of my testimony is my ability to analyse facts in my field to come up with an informed conclusion. To reach such a conclusion I have to "look things up". I would be more inclined to doubt the testimony of a witness who did not look things up.
Are you an astronomer? I ask only because you're modded +4 Interesting. But, in your comment you say: "My guess is..." and then "I'm guessing that..." What makes you think that your two guesses are in any way valid? Maybe this (my) comment is directed more at the mods than you because if you were not modded up so much I'd gloss over your comment.
And that sounds much like parts of corporate America and the "rank" system, where those best able to manipulate their managers and stab their co-workers in the back successfully are best enabled for advancement, leading to pure sociopaths at the top tier. Corporations like Microsoft in particular use the rank system...
Very well put, dyfet, I don't know about your Microsoft jab in particular, but the rest is pretty much spot on. I work in a research position and I've been at the same place of work for over 8 years now. In that time we've had two sociopaths at the helm. Not only that, but these two idiotic leaders have had no idea about the work we do. So it just goes to show that talent doesn't mean much. If you want to get ahead you need to have no empathy, have no talent, and be a moronic idiot. I wish I could put aside my talent, my care for others and drop my IQ so that I could be a leader.
What? Your friends are obviously a bit simple. Oh, all of my friends use myspace, I'd better do that as well and ignore email. This scenario that you suggest, suggests to me that you need new friends. Or, get a bunch of friends who actually have a job other than flipping burgers at McDonalds. And why are you letting you friends "force your hand"? That's crazy. Be more sure of yourself and don't give in to their idiot tendencies. Send them emails and force their hand.
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And I guess if you'd read the blog (the second link in the article not the third) which the summary is actually referring to, you would know that there is no output from the program written by the "MIT programmer [who] decided to make a Linux C program so simple, she could explain every byte of the assembly".
Since when does a Hello World program not actually output anything?
Well, the case it being tried in the USA. Does it really surprise you that the law or anything else apart from money doesn't matter? And does it really surprise you that the judge didn't make a decision but carried on with semantic bullshit? Yes, I guess that would surprise you if you were a typical American with patriotic ideals and an IQ of 90.
No, they don't. If they sell me the software then I can do whatever the heck I want to with it. Copyright does NOT extend to cover what I can do with a legally purchased item. I do not CARE what the EULA says, because it's not legally binding. To say that Apple has the right to tell me what I can do with my legal purchase is akin to a book publisher trying to impose on me that I cannot read their book in the toilet.
Presents and Futures... what the heck is that supposed to mean?
Well, I don't know about you guys but I actually get asked this question quite often. Just the other day I was in a board meeting when my CEO turned to me and whispered in my ear "Do you know how heavy the internet is?" I didn't know the answer and ended up looking like a fool.
Are you feeling OK? LOL
Pretty sure it will all be explained here:
CD/DVD Copy Protection
I am not sure that I would have liked seeing the operators expose themselves.
it is a total failure, iinet has already provided the communicatino minister with ample evidence of this, but he's commited to being a total idiot it seems.
Yes. But you see what is happening don't you? He (Conroy or his department) is playing with dodgy statistics to put his argument/proposal in the best probable light. "More than half" of the ISPs he surveyed said the filtering was ok. What does that mean? Does that mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs were little players without many customers? Does it mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs are in the government's pockets? Does it mean that more than half of the surveyed ISPs are OWNED by the government? I don't know. But these are not reasons being put forward. They (the government) are playing the dodgy statistics game in the hope that the masses will fall for their flawed studies. The masses will fall for it, though. I won't and I will remain pissed off.
More than half of the Internet service providers (ISPs) taking part in the Federal Government's ISP filtering trial have reported minimal speed disruptions or technology problems.
So, in other words, just less than half reported significant speed and technology problems. This entire situation pisses me off! I emailed the minister in charge of this and he didn't even have the decency to reply with a non-canned response. So, all the big ISPs are saying that this will result in big speed disruptions, but the other half (idiot home-run ISPs most likely) are saying it's fine. Gee, I wonder if it's because those ISPs have negligible traffic anyway!
From BBC news [bbc.co.uk] - "But local people, fearing a rave was going to take place after previous events with loud music at the same premises, alerted the police."
In other words, this bunch were notorious around town for partying all through the night, playing loud music and generally being a pain in the ass to everybody else. They may have been just barbequeing when the police showed up, but the locals knew what was comming and decided enough was enough.
Where did you get that they were "notorious around town" from? I don't see mentioned anywhere that the "bunch" were notorious around town for causing trouble. All I see is that a bunch of locals decided that they'd contact police. A bunch of locals giving police "information" is not reason enough for the police to respond in the way they did. Heck, if YOU lived in my neighbourhood I just might be tempted to get me and my friends to make up stories about YOU and get the police to raid your house. How would you like that? Not very much I am guessing.
In case you don't understand what I just said, let me put it in another way. Lets just say I have a bunch of friends here on slashdot and that I got together with them to accuse you of being a troll. All of us (me and my friends) will agree and email the slashdot admins that you're a troll. Upon hearing this, the admins revoke your account and ban you. How would this be right?
south. east. open window. in. west. get lamp and sword. east. up. light lamp. get all. douse lamp. down. west. move rug. open trapdoor. down. light lamp. north. attack troll with sword. again. again. again. again. get axe
Damn you! I've been trying to do this for 20 years and now you've shown me how. You could at least have mentioned "Spoiler Alert".
For the record, the whole lawsuit thing is a joke, and everyone's aware that it's doomed to failure. The problem is that since Zgeek is essentially run by one guy in his spare time, he doesn't have the resources to fight it effectively, so it's better to run away rather than set yourself up for future problems.
I admire your optimism. But just because everyone is aware that it's insane does not mean the lawsuit will fail.
A kernel is pretty much useless without a "userland." OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD are all operating systems. Linux, sorry to say, is not.
Stop trying to redefine the term "Operating System". The rest of what you said might have merit, but once you tried to force your (wrong) interpretation of "Operating System" onto others I lost interest. Please explain to me and others how Linux is not an operating system.
So, before you go on a rant about how many times BSD has been forked, please get your facts straight.
How about you following your own advice?
I can't tell for sure from your comments, but I get the feeling that you worked there. Is that true? Were you an astronaut?
Cheers,
Despite Far Cry 2's somewhat, umm, controversial gameplay I really think that the Dunia engine should be on the list.
I understand what you're saying, Edlll, and I cannot say I disagree. But my original reply was to a user who seems to have his head so far up his arse that he cannot seem to see the obvious. This discussion is about an established Botnet that appears (from the summary) to be about to self destruct and take all it's "users" with it. zooblethorpe implies that this is a good thing and that the victims are getting what they deserve for using an insecure OS. I, on the other hand, disagree with his comment and think that it (the comment) is bullshit. I also think that he/she is an idiot, based on the comment. To say (in his words) that the users are getting what they deserve is utter rubbish and I cannot believe that his comments is +5. It's an ignorant comment from a person who, through his comments, is stupider than the users he is deriding.
Why don't YOU get a clue? Punishing the user of an insecure OS will not do a damn thing. It will not do a damn thing to increase security. There will just be lots of people who are fucking upset because they lost a whole heaps of important files or memories (e.g. photos). It is not THEIR fault that windows is so fucked up (is it)? So, why do you take delight in them losing their data?
So, I hit YOU with you so called "clue bat" and I hope your meagre brain manages to parse it. I hope you remember this.
Cheers,
[Ladies...] can you imagine living with this guy?
Yeah, I agree. Much better to sleep with me.
If they'd posted an "Ask Slashdot" story they'd have a million or so armchair experts willing to provide testimony at the drop of a hat.
If we've got expert witnesses having to look things up to provide testimony on them, what is their value? Especially in light of the supposed factual question.
What are you talking about? If you'd said that relying on information gathered only from Wikipedia calls into credibility of the expert witness, then I'd agree. I have been called on to provide expert testimony several times and I wouldn't have even thought of going into court relying only on my memory. The "value" of my testimony is my ability to analyse facts in my field to come up with an informed conclusion. To reach such a conclusion I have to "look things up". I would be more inclined to doubt the testimony of a witness who did not look things up.
Are you an astronomer? I ask only because you're modded +4 Interesting. But, in your comment you say: "My guess is..." and then "I'm guessing that..." What makes you think that your two guesses are in any way valid? Maybe this (my) comment is directed more at the mods than you because if you were not modded up so much I'd gloss over your comment.
And that sounds much like parts of corporate America and the "rank" system, where those best able to manipulate their managers and stab their co-workers in the back successfully are best enabled for advancement, leading to pure sociopaths at the top tier. Corporations like Microsoft in particular use the rank system...
Very well put, dyfet, I don't know about your Microsoft jab in particular, but the rest is pretty much spot on. I work in a research position and I've been at the same place of work for over 8 years now. In that time we've had two sociopaths at the helm. Not only that, but these two idiotic leaders have had no idea about the work we do. So it just goes to show that talent doesn't mean much. If you want to get ahead you need to have no empathy, have no talent, and be a moronic idiot. I wish I could put aside my talent, my care for others and drop my IQ so that I could be a leader.
What? Your friends are obviously a bit simple. Oh, all of my friends use myspace, I'd better do that as well and ignore email. This scenario that you suggest, suggests to me that you need new friends. Or, get a bunch of friends who actually have a job other than flipping burgers at McDonalds. And why are you letting you friends "force your hand"? That's crazy. Be more sure of yourself and don't give in to their idiot tendencies. Send them emails and force their hand.