Evolution... man created Climate Change... God created
For a long time, Science took the opposite position on these two issues. Funny how more recently these same scientists have have done a complete 180 and realized that in fact climate change is *not* a factor of man's interaction and are now inline with the first of the two (above) understandings.
If Microsoft also created the hardware... they could but because they only are 1 part of a "solution" that is comprised of many companies... they can't. When you create the entire solution, you can dictate what's on it and how its used. That's why even if Apple were in Microsoft's position (the dominant player) they couldn't be required to follow the competing requirements of a monopoly.
To argue otherwise would be akin to arguing that we should be able to demand that Sony (for example) open up development of the buttons, knobs and dials for their stereo equipment.
When you create the entire solution, you can dictate the terms on how its used in both hardware software and operating system.
Limiting the positives while over extending the negative and also adding subjective negative to make the list seem longer I see...
Two can play at that game.
positives:
nice UI nice screen small nice music/video player looks good compatible with itunes music, tv, movies, podcasts and games seamless synchronization the only portable with multitouch more secure (no viruses) compatible with the largest wireless carrier intelligent touch typing not forced to use the same buttons for all apps long battery life scratch resistant display inexpensive compared to similarly spec'd phones I like jobs coming through with his promises on offering programming solutions that wont slow down the phone
Limiting the positives while over extending the negative and also adding subjective negative to make the list seem longer I see...
Two can play at that game.
+ nice UI
+ nice screen
+ small
+ nice music/video player
+ looks good
+ compatible with itunes music
+ compatible with itunes tv
+ compatible with itunes movies
+ compatible with itunes podcasts
+ compatible with itunes games
+ seamless synchronization
+ the only portable with multitouch
+ more secure (no viruses)
+ compatible with the largest wireless carrier
+ intelligent touch typing
+ not forced to use the same buttons for all apps
+ long battery life
+ scratch resistant display
+ inexpensive compared to similarly spec'd phones
+ I like jobs coming through with his promises on offering programming solutions that wont slow down the phone
- no 3G
- no GPS
Its not as if Dell doesn't sell $2,500+ laptops. Similarly, its not as if Apple doesn't sell a laptop thats spec'd equal to or actually higher that that $1,000 and price in the same range ($1,100).
Why are you perpetuating the false notion that PCs cost more than Macs? Apple has fewer options to choose from, but of those they do offer, they are typically less expensive than PCs of the same spec.
www.systemshootouts.com
The iPod doesn't have less features. In fact it has more. However, it may not be the ones YOU are looking for... hence the aforementioned 80/20 rule. Consider yourself officially in the minority.
Your argument is correct, but the original argument should have used those same qualifiers as well. When you consider the fact that the iPhone hasn't been used by any of us, the original argument against the iPhone is all guesswork.
"the iPhone isn't going to let you read/edit/email Word docs."
The iPhone actually WILL allow you to read and email word docs... and by way of its partnership with Google... iPhone users will also be able to edit them as well.
It's not Microsoft's size that makes them evil.... it's their business practices which achieve that end-result.
I'd like to think that if Apple ever managed to reach Microsoft's status, that the masses wouldn't regard them as evil as long as they maintain their current durection.
Whis would this article be labeled a troll? Because you don't like the ramifications?
I think Cringely's article is probable though impracticle... at least for the time being.
Microsoft isn't going to drop office for Mac... they make too much money from it... but if they ever do, Apple has a backup plan in the way of Windows virtualization.
It is possible that Apple doubled its sales in one quarter and its "market share" decrease if PC sales grew faster than that during the same time period.
Because recent reports indicate that Apple's computer sales have increased... and did so by a large margin, decreased market share is an indicator of increased PC sales not decreased Mac sales... but siliconvalley.com doesn't tell you that.
The guy is confusing install base and market share. Whether or not he's doing it purposefully is unknown, but something tells me he's aware of the differences and how the public misperceives them. They are two totally different statistics. The journalist is playing upon the public's misconceptions about install base and market share because it makes for a more dramatic story.
It's very disheartening as its yet another method of causing people to (mistakenly) believe that Apple is dying... like so many of the debunked stories of yesteryear.
but their new releases aren't just updates but major releases. And they they don't stop supporting the old version at all. You're comment is best described as FUD.
Actually, the move to PowerPC broke very little because they used emulation to reproduce the old environment. The newer processor was so much faster than the old, that the speed decrease was inconsequential.
Though it is true that they are breaking OS 9 apps entierly with the transition to Intel, so few people use those legacy apps anymore it to was inconsequential.
A Macintosh does not cost any more than a PC that is equipped with the same components in hardware (equal software) and equal OS.
Yes, I know there are countless numbers of people that can say, but I but a base laptop from [insert company name here] for $300, Apple requires you to spend [insert dollar amount here]. A PC allows you to buy less and spend less. Apple requires you to buy more and thus pay for it. The advantage of PCs are their configuration flexability to buy what you want and only what you want. It is NOT in their price. If that were the case then PCs would actually cost less than a Mac of the same components.
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One is based on false information and the other is not. The fact that you disagree with both doesn't make all of them a cult.
Evolution... man created
Climate Change... God created
For a long time, Science took the opposite position on these two issues. Funny how more recently these same scientists have have done a complete 180 and realized that in fact climate change is *not* a factor of man's interaction and are now inline with the first of the two (above) understandings.
One down... one to go
If Microsoft also created the hardware... they could but because they only are 1 part of a "solution" that is comprised of many companies... they can't. When you create the entire solution, you can dictate what's on it and how its used. That's why even if Apple were in Microsoft's position (the dominant player) they couldn't be required to follow the competing requirements of a monopoly.
To argue otherwise would be akin to arguing that we should be able to demand that Sony (for example) open up development of the buttons, knobs and dials for their stereo equipment.
When you create the entire solution, you can dictate the terms on how its used in both hardware software and operating system.
better for less... no
different for less or less for less yes.
It's an important distinction to make as Apple's hardware is less expensive when compared equally.
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Limiting the positives while over extending the negative and also adding subjective negative to make the list seem longer I see...
Two can play at that game.
positives:
nice UI
nice screen
small
nice music/video player
looks good
compatible with itunes music, tv, movies, podcasts and games
seamless synchronization
the only portable with multitouch
more secure (no viruses)
compatible with the largest wireless carrier
intelligent touch typing
not forced to use the same buttons for all apps
long battery life
scratch resistant display
inexpensive compared to similarly spec'd phones
I like jobs coming through with his promises on offering programming solutions that wont slow down the phone
Negatives:
no 3G
no GPS
Limiting the positives while over extending the negative and also adding subjective negative to make the list seem longer I see... Two can play at that game. + nice UI + nice screen + small + nice music/video player + looks good + compatible with itunes music + compatible with itunes tv + compatible with itunes movies + compatible with itunes podcasts + compatible with itunes games + seamless synchronization + the only portable with multitouch + more secure (no viruses) + compatible with the largest wireless carrier + intelligent touch typing + not forced to use the same buttons for all apps + long battery life + scratch resistant display + inexpensive compared to similarly spec'd phones + I like jobs coming through with his promises on offering programming solutions that wont slow down the phone - no 3G - no GPS
You realise that the iPod is not planned to be sold outside the US until mid or late 2008? Good boy.
>Adobe Flash plugin
Agreed.
>MS Office Document reader
The iPhone already has this
>Barcode reader
Simply not necessary.
>PDF/E-book reader
>Adobe Flash plugin
Agreed.
>MS Office Document reader
The iPhone already has this
>Voice recorder
The iPhone already has this
>VOIP
Simply not necessary. (It's a phone already!!!
Its not as if Dell doesn't sell $2,500+ laptops. Similarly, its not as if Apple doesn't sell a laptop thats spec'd equal to or actually higher that that $1,000 and price in the same range ($1,100). Why are you perpetuating the false notion that PCs cost more than Macs? Apple has fewer options to choose from, but of those they do offer, they are typically less expensive than PCs of the same spec. www.systemshootouts.com
The iPod doesn't have less features. In fact it has more. However, it may not be the ones YOU are looking for... hence the aforementioned 80/20 rule. Consider yourself officially in the minority.
Your argument is correct, but the original argument should have used those same qualifiers as well. When you consider the fact that the iPhone hasn't been used by any of us, the original argument against the iPhone is all guesswork.
"the iPhone isn't going to let you read/edit/email Word docs."
The iPhone actually WILL allow you to read and email word docs... and by way of its partnership with Google... iPhone users will also be able to edit them as well.
It's not in the feature bullet point list... it's in the execution.
That's your both you and Ballmer don't "get it."
It's not Microsoft's size that makes them evil.... it's their business practices which achieve that end-result.
I'd like to think that if Apple ever managed to reach Microsoft's status, that the masses wouldn't regard them as evil as long as they maintain their current durection.
If they do this... they open the Pandora's box of also making new songs higher priced.
Personally... I prefer the consistency approach.
Get a Mac. It can run Xp if your son needs to and you don't have to pay Microsoft twice.
"Why spend $2000 on a laptop to surf the web and write documents?" Why would he have to spend $2000 on a Mac laptop? They don't start that high.
Whis would this article be labeled a troll? Because you don't like the ramifications?
I think Cringely's article is probable though impracticle... at least for the time being.
Microsoft isn't going to drop office for Mac... they make too much money from it... but if they ever do, Apple has a backup plan in the way of Windows virtualization.
Microsoft's problems are due to insecurities in the operating system more than it having a greater install base.
Market share is a very misleading statistic.
It is possible that Apple doubled its sales in one quarter and its "market share" decrease if PC sales grew faster than that during the same time period.
Because recent reports indicate that Apple's computer sales have increased... and did so by a large margin, decreased market share is an indicator of increased PC sales not decreased Mac sales... but siliconvalley.com doesn't tell you that.
The guy is confusing install base and market share. Whether or not he's doing it purposefully is unknown, but something tells me he's aware of the differences and how the public misperceives them. They are two totally different statistics. The journalist is playing upon the public's misconceptions about install base and market share because it makes for a more dramatic story.
It's very disheartening as its yet another method of causing people to (mistakenly) believe that Apple is dying... like so many of the debunked stories of yesteryear.
but their new releases aren't just updates but major releases. And they they don't stop supporting the old version at all. You're comment is best described as FUD.
Actually, the move to PowerPC broke very little because they used emulation to reproduce the old environment. The newer processor was so much faster than the old, that the speed decrease was inconsequential.
Though it is true that they are breaking OS 9 apps entierly with the transition to Intel, so few people use those legacy apps anymore it to was inconsequential.
A Macintosh does not cost any more than a PC that is equipped with the same components in hardware (equal software) and equal OS.
Yes, I know there are countless numbers of people that can say, but I but a base laptop from [insert company name here] for $300, Apple requires you to spend [insert dollar amount here]. A PC allows you to buy less and spend less. Apple requires you to buy more and thus pay for it. The advantage of PCs are their configuration flexability to buy what you want and only what you want. It is NOT in their price. If that were the case then PCs would actually cost less than a Mac of the same components.
It already does. As a matter of fact, its less expensive.
The thing is... things haven't changed. Apple is a high profile today. Apple was a high profile player before.
The only thing that is changing is public perception.