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ISP's that decide to NOT to play this throttling game this throttling should simply advertise themselves as "EFF Net Neutral certified" etc. (yeah that means EFF would have to certify them I guess. Either that or we can take it on their word.
ISP's can advertise themselves as being throttle free.
Given how cheap regular internet access is, why would anyone want an ISP that practices bandwidth throttling? Unless there is some conspiracy to jack up prices.
Furthermore it may actually become expensive to practice bandwidth throttling. Most users will get pissed off when their favorite sites are slow. Which means they will have to target the little guy websites. And that to means overall slow experience for users. Also, managing the list of IP blocks that are throttled/unthrottled would be a pain. And furthermore, I wonder if the ISP's will have to provide a list of sites they are throttling to customers. Or is this something the EFF will have to publish?
The govt. really should make it much easier for people to to establish their own alternate telcos instead of paying money to these short sighted corporations who have what i would consider state sponsored monopolies.
This means the FCC should free up more spectrum bandwidth for independent WiFi style ISPs or free networks.
If a job is so repetitive that it CAN be outside to a total idiot, we can presume that one was getting paid for simplistic work. If a job was initial setup, then it was the employee's responsibility to ensure that he/she got the compensation expected (perhaps a royalty/revenue agreement) prior to doing the work in the first place. Not expecting continuous pay for something mundane. Nobody should be forced to buy something at a certain price.
Causing future issues to occur is:
a) Taking out revenge on a replacement, who may or may not be competent. No matter how tempting the satisfaction of it, you are unfairly going to cause him to seem incompetent. Furthermore, all he did was apply to a job offer (is that really wrong/evil)? Most people aren't told "hey you'll be replacing some fat guy who'll now be on the street". Although many people think there is a fixed number of jobs in the world and workers somehow use up that amount of jobs, this isn't the case. In fact many people think that by doing a particular job they are not only getting paid but improving global quality of life for others by providing services affordably thus enabling/freeing up others to provide even better services. It may seem like crock, but that's the way it is.
b) The employer is probably insured against this type of stuff (if it's a corporation, one can bet on it). So aside from harming that employee and especially the poor individual customers who depend on the company's reliability, the people involved in the actual decision process of outsourcing the job will not be tinged.
c) The act is a criminal violation of law because of the malicious intent involved. Most are against criminality and would say "we are a nation laws" for other things right?
What's contradictory?.. I didnt say AMD was the other option. Other options = anything without "DRM" intitiatives, including older stuff. Second, it's IRRELEVANT that intel or the "electronics industry" negotiated such deal with RIAA/MPAA (do you know of when that happened?). Let Congress legislate it. The DRM stuff is so that content providers will create content for their platform, the brief they filed was to cover their ass. And finally my main point that should have been obvious is taht it's plain bad philosophy to waste time/resources pursuing something that works against customers. Instead of developing this and causing negative publicity among techs they could have improved processor speed and reduced their pricing.
There is no reason for including their "trusted computing" crap on their processors/platform.
Objects telling their OWNERS they refuse (this is more than just software suggesting that an action may be a violation of law) to do something because they think it might be illegal and secretly send private info to a mothership. What kind of BS is that? Clearly only fools would buy such a device unless they hadn't other options. And intel misbetted that customers had other options.
It's basically untrusted computing..customers untrusted.. intel telling it's customers "we can't trust what you'll do with our products so we are going to cripple functionality".
Unfortunately AMD is buying into this BS too.
I really hope it was Microsoft that pressured them to do it. Not that it's a worthy excuse.
I'm not going to be surprised when all software has expiry dates and hardware plain refuses to run it after it's "expired". And software will of course demand that the latest newest hardware be installed. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. For safety reasons, of course.
I think that the fact that you can't burn the music is going to turn away most of their potential customers.
How's this a "fact"?
According to the article, you are allowed to burn the music if you choose to buy it for 99 cents (similar to how iTunes works!).
From the article:
"Urge sells music under the same basic terms as other stores: Songs (99 cents each) and albums (usually $9.99) can be played on five computers at any one time, and you can burn seven audio CDs from any one playlist of these downloads."
If you're being mugged, you probably cant use a cell phone. But with this when a sudden elevated heart rate is detected, you may auto activate GPS and mics/video. Maybe even alert nearby people or police. Good for protecting kids etc.
Thered have to be reliable inputs or signal processing to detect the difference between fright/panic and running around etc.
But, progress is being made, maybe the rate of progress is a lot slower than anticipated. But it's clear physicists are getting closer and closer. The public needs to be patient and not cut off funding. Just because the 50 year prediction was wrong doesnt mean that this is a fundamentally impossible acheivement, as we can see, progress is being made.
My main concern is the current environmentalist movement which doesnt want humans have a decent quality of life with cheap access to energy. They are stuck on what they think is pollution free energy production methods such as solar (solar cell production is not eco friendly), wind (motor magnets & airfoil manufacture not necessarily pollution free, ugly, noisy, bird killing, proven to effect natural weather) and ethanol (combustion still produces pollutants including carcinogens, large scale production monopolizes vast areas of arable land).
So, even though at least one of the co-founders of greenpeace is in favor of nuclear power. Greenpeace and other "environmentalist" movements have gotten so hateful of the nuclear industry that they have apparently lost all rationality when it comes to examining the benefits of fusion.
And so it seems that many modern environmentalists don't care enough about the environment to be rational in trying to protect it. Let's not forget that most humans are environmentalists, who wants to live in pollution? The entrenched environmental lobby is actively blocking any workable ideas in reducing pollution and improving quality of life.
Can PMD vulnerability checking? Can PMD be used to find source code vulnerabilities? For example can it be used to detect if Cross Site Scripting can be exploited on a servlet? Or SQL Injection?
This is what security oriented source code analyzers (such as those from fortify software, ounce labs etc) do.
These commercial tools are REALLY damn expensive so it would be great if there were open source alternatives that can plug into an IDE such as Eclipse etc like the commercial ones do.
A few years ago _ _ I was having my dinner, I thought of this very same idea. Instead of c _ _ _inuing to eat, I should have put down my _ _ _ _ and got a sh _ _ _ of paper to write the idea down. Oh well, I _ _ _'_ do anything abou_ _ _ now. I got another great idea but this time my _ _ _ _ _ out of ink....
Who else finds that the stupid 15 second full screen web ads many companies have are plain useless and annoying. Most don't even show the company logo or product until the end of the ad, and all of the ads are just plain boring. That's why I always click "skip this ad". Surely they should try to get the main message across in the first second or two because I'm out before the ad ends usually.
It'll only stop seeming unlikely until it happens.
Some people want their system "insecure" by choice, knowing not everyone in their neighborhood/family can afford it yet. And no i do not see it as stealing or morally wrong to allow others on your wifi if you're paying your provider the bandwidth fees they ask for. Same as allowing someone else to sit at your computer.
The concept of having a product that is nice and user friendly was invented by Apple? No wonder all the furniture and paintings of the ancients were so ugly. And the few nice ones, I'm sure they copied Apple as well.
What'll be your next assertion.. that Halle Berry copied Brad Pitt?
No worries though, I'm sure the ABA (Apple Boy Army) will mod you up anyway.
You know, I would bet money that were Apple doing this, people would claim it's just vertical market integration.. why should they make things easy for spyware vendors etc.
Apple won't allow others to create DRM enabled files that play on the iPod. Other mp3 players are prevented from being able to play songs bought on iTunes (unless you go the roundabout, dubiously legal (read the contract), route of ripping to CD and then copying the mp3's on there). This is all considered "fair" and a brilliant example of vertical integration.
It seems to me that as far as people are concerned, anything Microsft does is evil, but if Apple does the exact same thing.. it's considered ethical and benevolent.
"When you have both Intel and Microsoft on your case, you know you're doing something right," Negroponte
That's his response to the critics? How about responding to some of the specific criticisms instead? Or maybe he did in his speech.. the article didnt really say. I wanna know some of his responses to the specific criticisms of the OLPC plan's effectiveness.
A computer is nothing more than a tool that only matters when an educated and healthy population can utilize them.
Educated how? About what? So your way is that everyone learn to read and write but no computer skills? Nothing beyond basic farming techniues? Tou must think there is no such thing as the EMERGING FUCKING DEVELOPING WORLD? Ever heard of it? Not everyone is starving and dying. This laptop is so that EMERGING DEVELOPING COUNTRIES can gain the skills to enter the economically advance world faster. You comment about cell phones CLEARLY demonstrates you are a dumb fool, because cell phones are being bought RAPIDLY in developing countries. There is a huge demand for them because of the amount they boost quality of life and economic participation.
$2000 laptops should not be made because rich people are better off eating caviar. Any person who believes otherwise has clearly have never hung out with rich people.
I have lived in multiple developing countries and let me tell you're full of shit. Everyone I know in these countries are excited about it. I dont give a crap whether you supposedly did shit for MSF or not. Anonymous Coward. How many times does it need to be said that THIS LAPTOP IS NOT FOR THE POOREST PEOPLE. The poorest people are left to starve and die cause the $100 wasn't going to the ANYWAY (you have people like this AC blocking that money too with excuses like "the warlords take the money"). This $100 laptop is PAID FOR not by your f'ing negativist asshole tax money but by THE GOVERNMENTS THEMSELVES. It's not up to you to force people to spend THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY according to the way you see fit. Take your negativism elsewhere, and let people who actually want to make a lasting difference do it. I dont see you raising $100 for anybody. If these laptops are so useless why are you afraid of them?
How can they possibly expect people to figure out which content goes where? Maybe any site that talks about sex? Does wikipedia go into.xxx ? How about a political blog that talks about sexual morality?
Without a doubt this is a first move towards censorship. I'd say we should have non xxx content on.xxx as well. Until they make it illegal.. and then well I dunno.. why is it so hard to convince the majority of truth and reality??
Maybe we can have a.pol for politics. Maybe ISP's can charge extra to access it instead of.xxx only.
It'll be funny watching the lawsuits fly back and forth..until we cant say shit about anything that is (literally).
In me opinion, me conjectures/thinks they announced Fleischmann was hired to encourage people to invest in their company's stock. After all, if Fleischmann is willing to sign on.. they must have something of potential value. They even provided their stock ticker symbol in the article, so if you want to invest..it's easy!
So, to me, this does not mean they have a viable product that is guaranteed to make millions, it just means they want people to invest money in their company.
Offtopic.. but related to software that can recognize content.. oh yeah I'll tie into law enforcement too..
Supposedly the next version of Mac OS will have at minimum OCR built in. Meaning it will scan images for words and put them in a searchable index. Now, eventually (or maybe the next release).. maybe it can do facial recognition too. Or, even scenery recognition (beach, house in background, night versus day.. etc.) Maybe it can learn or be taught which house is who's etc. so even that can be automagically gotten. Scenery recognition AI is very hard though, so maybe it'll just be facial reognition.
Expect someday to be able to load the "top ten most wanted criminals" into your computer and see if they are in pictures taken on your last vacation (to implement image recognition would have to be able to detect objects as faces and store intermediary data about the face in some searchable index format otherwise searching would take too long if you have a mad number of files). Google image or a p2p app woud work with this well. Seems like a nice idea until all the false positives i suppose. I sure as hell wouldnt want to be harassed or arrested "for the public good" cause i look like someone.
You do realize not every poor person lives in the middle of nowhere?
Furthermore the cell towers can be solar powered and run by villagers themselves.
Why are there so many "your plan is useless because it doesn't solve the problem 100%, so don't do it, no I don't have a better idea, nor have I ever personally taken any real steps to help anyone" negativists on slashdot?
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ISP's that decide to NOT to play this throttling game this throttling should simply advertise themselves as "EFF Net Neutral certified" etc. (yeah that means EFF would have to certify them I guess. Either that or we can take it on their word.
ISP's can advertise themselves as being throttle free.
Given how cheap regular internet access is, why would anyone want an ISP that practices bandwidth throttling? Unless there is some conspiracy to jack up prices.
Furthermore it may actually become expensive to practice bandwidth throttling. Most users will get pissed off when their favorite sites are slow. Which means they will have to target the little guy websites. And that to means overall slow experience for users. Also, managing the list of IP blocks that are throttled/unthrottled would be a pain. And furthermore, I wonder if the ISP's will have to provide a list of sites they are throttling to customers. Or is this something the EFF will have to publish?
The govt. really should make it much easier for people to to establish their own alternate telcos instead of paying money to these short sighted corporations who have what i would consider state sponsored monopolies.
This means the FCC should free up more spectrum bandwidth for independent WiFi style ISPs or free networks.
If a job is so repetitive that it CAN be outside to a total idiot, we can presume that one was getting paid for simplistic work. If a job was initial setup, then it was the employee's responsibility to ensure that he/she got the compensation expected (perhaps a royalty/revenue agreement) prior to doing the work in the first place. Not expecting continuous pay for something mundane. Nobody should be forced to buy something at a certain price.
Causing future issues to occur is:
a) Taking out revenge on a replacement, who may or may not be competent. No matter how tempting the satisfaction of it, you are unfairly going to cause him to seem incompetent. Furthermore, all he did was apply to a job offer (is that really wrong/evil)? Most people aren't told "hey you'll be replacing some fat guy who'll now be on the street". Although many people think there is a fixed number of jobs in the world and workers somehow use up that amount of jobs, this isn't the case. In fact many people think that by doing a particular job they are not only getting paid but improving global quality of life for others by providing services affordably thus enabling/freeing up others to provide even better services. It may seem like crock, but that's the way it is.
b) The employer is probably insured against this type of stuff (if it's a corporation, one can bet on it). So aside from harming that employee and especially the poor individual customers who depend on the company's reliability, the people involved in the actual decision process of outsourcing the job will not be tinged.
c) The act is a criminal violation of law because of the malicious intent involved. Most are against criminality and would say "we are a nation laws" for other things right?
Calm down anonymous.
.. I didnt say AMD was the other option. Other options = anything without "DRM" intitiatives, including older stuff. Second, it's IRRELEVANT that intel or the "electronics industry" negotiated such deal with RIAA/MPAA (do you know of when that happened?). Let Congress legislate it. The DRM stuff is so that content providers will create content for their platform, the brief they filed was to cover their ass. And finally my main point that should have been obvious is taht it's plain bad philosophy to waste time/resources pursuing something that works against customers. Instead of developing this and causing negative publicity among techs they could have improved processor speed and reduced their pricing.
What's contradictory?
There is no reason for including their "trusted computing" crap on their processors/platform.
..customers untrusted .. intel telling it's customers "we can't trust what you'll do with our products so we are going to cripple functionality".
Objects telling their OWNERS they refuse (this is more than just software suggesting that an action may be a violation of law) to do something because they think it might be illegal and secretly send private info to a mothership. What kind of BS is that? Clearly only fools would buy such a device unless they hadn't other options. And intel misbetted that customers had other options.
It's basically untrusted computing
Unfortunately AMD is buying into this BS too.
I really hope it was Microsoft that pressured them to do it. Not that it's a worthy excuse.
I'm not going to be surprised when all software has expiry dates and hardware plain refuses to run it after it's "expired". And software will of course demand that the latest newest hardware be installed. You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. For safety reasons, of course.
I wasn't being vitriolic. I was just saying. In a friendly manner. I regret that I came across as that.
laters friendly etc. etc.
Yeah and it was on college's website before that too.
.. duh.
Why don't i just visit all the websites on the internet every day? Then i wouldnt have to bother with the inconvenience of browsing slashdot.
As for having the same writeup? The bottom of the text credits linkfilter
What? There are chairs left there?
I think that the fact that you can't burn the music is going to turn away most of their potential customers.
How's this a "fact"?
According to the article, you are allowed to burn the music if you choose to buy it for 99 cents (similar to how iTunes works!).
From the article:
"Urge sells music under the same basic terms as other stores: Songs (99 cents each) and albums (usually $9.99) can be played on five computers at any one time, and you can burn seven audio CDs from any one playlist of these downloads."
Renting is just one of the options they offer.
If you're being mugged, you probably cant use a cell phone. But with this when a sudden elevated heart rate is detected, you may auto activate GPS and mics/video. Maybe even alert nearby people or police. Good for protecting kids etc.
Thered have to be reliable inputs or signal processing to detect the difference between fright/panic and running around etc.
But, progress is being made, maybe the rate of progress is a lot slower than anticipated. But it's clear physicists are getting closer and closer. The public needs to be patient and not cut off funding. Just because the 50 year prediction was wrong doesnt mean that this is a fundamentally impossible acheivement, as we can see, progress is being made.
My main concern is the current environmentalist movement which doesnt want humans have a decent quality of life with cheap access to energy. They are stuck on what they think is pollution free energy production methods such as solar (solar cell production is not eco friendly), wind (motor magnets & airfoil manufacture not necessarily pollution free, ugly, noisy, bird killing, proven to effect natural weather) and ethanol (combustion still produces pollutants including carcinogens, large scale production monopolizes vast areas of arable land).
So, even though at least one of the co-founders of greenpeace is in favor of nuclear power. Greenpeace and other "environmentalist" movements have gotten so hateful of the nuclear industry that they have apparently lost all rationality when it comes to examining the benefits of fusion.
And so it seems that many modern environmentalists don't care enough about the environment to be rational in trying to protect it. Let's not forget that most humans are environmentalists, who wants to live in pollution? The entrenched environmental lobby is actively blocking any workable ideas in reducing pollution and improving quality of life.
Double the research.
Can PMD vulnerability checking? Can PMD be used to find source code vulnerabilities? For example can it be used to detect if Cross Site Scripting can be exploited on a servlet? Or SQL Injection?
This is what security oriented source code analyzers (such as those from fortify software, ounce labs etc) do.
These commercial tools are REALLY damn expensive so it would be great if there were open source alternatives that can plug into an IDE such as Eclipse etc like the commercial ones do.
A few years ago _ _ I was having my dinner, I thought of this very same idea. Instead of c _ _ _inuing to eat, I should have put down my _ _ _ _ and got a sh _ _ _ of paper to write the idea down. Oh well, I _ _ _'_ do anything abou_ _ _ now. I got another great idea but this time my _ _ _ _ _ out of ink. ...
Who else finds that the stupid 15 second full screen web ads many companies have are plain useless and annoying. Most don't even show the company logo or product until the end of the ad, and all of the ads are just plain boring. That's why I always click "skip this ad". Surely they should try to get the main message across in the first second or two because I'm out before the ad ends usually.
It'll only stop seeming unlikely until it happens.
Some people want their system "insecure" by choice, knowing not everyone in their neighborhood/family can afford it yet. And no i do not see it as stealing or morally wrong to allow others on your wifi if you're paying your provider the bandwidth fees they ask for. Same as allowing someone else to sit at your computer.
The concept of having a product that is nice and user friendly was invented by Apple? No wonder all the furniture and paintings of the ancients were so ugly. And the few nice ones, I'm sure they copied Apple as well.
.. that Halle Berry copied Brad Pitt?
What'll be your next assertion
No worries though, I'm sure the ABA (Apple Boy Army) will mod you up anyway.
You know, I would bet money that were Apple doing this, people would claim it's just vertical market integration .. why should they make things easy for spyware vendors etc.
.. it's considered ethical and benevolent.
Apple won't allow others to create DRM enabled files that play on the iPod. Other mp3 players are prevented from being able to play songs bought on iTunes (unless you go the roundabout, dubiously legal (read the contract), route of ripping to CD and then copying the mp3's on there). This is all considered "fair" and a brilliant example of vertical integration.
It seems to me that as far as people are concerned, anything Microsft does is evil, but if Apple does the exact same thing
While you guys with macs are looking to boot into windows, I'm looking to boot windows OFF of my laptop.
Sometimes I think I should be in comedy. Funny, yes i know.
"When you have both Intel and Microsoft on your case, you know you're doing something right," Negroponte
.. the article didnt really say. I wanna know some of his responses to the specific criticisms of the OLPC plan's effectiveness.
That's his response to the critics? How about responding to some of the specific criticisms instead? Or maybe he did in his speech
A computer is nothing more than a tool that only matters when an educated and healthy population can utilize them.
Educated how? About what? So your way is that everyone learn to read and write but no computer skills? Nothing beyond basic farming techniues? Tou must think there is no such thing as the EMERGING FUCKING DEVELOPING WORLD? Ever heard of it? Not everyone is starving and dying. This laptop is so that EMERGING DEVELOPING COUNTRIES can gain the skills to enter the economically advance world faster. You comment about cell phones CLEARLY demonstrates you are a dumb fool, because cell phones are being bought RAPIDLY in developing countries. There is a huge demand for them because of the amount they boost quality of life and economic participation.
$2000 laptops should not be made because rich people are better off eating caviar. Any person who believes otherwise has clearly have never hung out with rich people.
I have lived in multiple developing countries and let me tell you're full of shit. Everyone I know in these countries are excited about it. I dont give a crap whether you supposedly did shit for MSF or not. Anonymous Coward. How many times does it need to be said that THIS LAPTOP IS NOT FOR THE POOREST PEOPLE. The poorest people are left to starve and die cause the $100 wasn't going to the ANYWAY (you have people like this AC blocking that money too with excuses like "the warlords take the money"). This $100 laptop is PAID FOR not by your f'ing negativist asshole tax money but by THE GOVERNMENTS THEMSELVES. It's not up to you to force people to spend THEIR OWN FUCKING MONEY according to the way you see fit. Take your negativism elsewhere, and let people who actually want to make a lasting difference do it. I dont see you raising $100 for anybody. If these laptops are so useless why are you afraid of them?
How can they possibly expect people to figure out which content goes where? Maybe any site that talks about sex? Does wikipedia go into .xxx ? How about a political blog that talks about sexual morality?
.xxx as well. Until they make it illegal .. and then well I dunno .. why is it so hard to convince the majority of truth and reality??
.pol for politics. Maybe ISP's can charge extra to access it instead of .xxx only.
..until we cant say shit about anything that is (literally).
Without a doubt this is a first move towards censorship. I'd say we should have non xxx content on
Maybe we can have a
It'll be funny watching the lawsuits fly back and forth
In me opinion, me conjectures/thinks they announced Fleischmann was hired to encourage people to invest in their company's stock. After all, if Fleischmann is willing to sign on.. they must have something of potential value. They even provided their stock ticker symbol in the article, so if you want to invest
So, to me, this does not mean they have a viable product that is guaranteed to make millions, it just means they want people to invest money in their company.
Offtopic .. but related to software that can recognize content .. oh yeah I'll tie into law enforcement too..
.. maybe it can do facial recognition too. Or, even scenery recognition (beach, house in background, night versus day .. etc.) Maybe it can learn or be taught which house is who's etc. so even that can be automagically gotten. Scenery recognition AI is very hard though, so maybe it'll just be facial reognition.
Supposedly the next version of Mac OS will have at minimum OCR built in. Meaning it will scan images for words and put them in a searchable index. Now, eventually (or maybe the next release)
Expect someday to be able to load the "top ten most wanted criminals" into your computer and see if they are in pictures taken on your last vacation (to implement image recognition would have to be able to detect objects as faces and store intermediary data about the face in some searchable index format otherwise searching would take too long if you have a mad number of files). Google image or a p2p app woud work with this well. Seems like a nice idea until all the false positives i suppose. I sure as hell wouldnt want to be harassed or arrested "for the public good" cause i look like someone.
You do realize not every poor person lives in the middle of nowhere?
Furthermore the cell towers can be solar powered and run by villagers themselves.
Why are there so many "your plan is useless because it doesn't solve the problem 100%, so don't do it, no I don't have a better idea, nor have I ever personally taken any real steps to help anyone" negativists on slashdot?
Once in a while it's heartening to know there are people on slashdot who not only know stuff but are willing to apply it analytically.
There's no way in hell spin like this would be tolerated on slashdot.
.. but would like to see reviews of Microsoft products well tolerated on here in a balanced manner.
"At least it's getting slap on the wrist I suppose."
Anyway, I don't mind this review