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The .XXX Saga Continues in Wellington
netrover writes "CircleID is reporting on the latest developments on the .XXX top-level domain as the related ICANN meeting is currently underway in Welligton, New Zealand. From the article: 'The .XXX TLD was widely expected to receive its final approval at the ICANN's last meeting held in Vancouver about 4 months earlier but the discussion was unexpectedly delayed as the organization and governments requested more time to review the merits of setting up such a domain.' But as it has been reported, it appears the discussions at ICANN Wellington are in limbo once again."
I really wanted the XXX Sega.
Like ICANT.
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Keyboard got a cold? Or did you mean reportING from WellINGton about XXX sites where you see a lot of things endING in ING
Why do we need a .xxx domain anyway? Will it make easier for people to block these sites? You can't get into them unless you pay anyway. Is it better for categorization? All the other sites are in 2-3 TLDs. I just don't see what this would help.
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ICANN should stop considering new TLDs. In fact, it might be worthwhile to start phasing out some of the newer TLDs due to lack of interest.
this would be an excellent ideas. All porn sites are moved to .xxx and any school business or other organization wishing to ban porn would simply ban .xxx . One would think it would be a simple solution
David Farrar is an InternetNZ councillor and is attending ICANN in Wellington... he's blogging on the meetings at:
.xxx but very much against it.
.xxx TLD may end up becoming compulsory for adult entertainment websites, with governments then legislating to make it mandatory for such sites to be in .xxx TLD. They also believe credit card companies might refuse to provide services to adult sites which are not in the .xxx TLD which will give the sponros of that TLD de facto control over the entire industry.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/
mixed in with his other stuff of course.
Useful stuff like:
But what is interesting is who else is against the proposal. I had lunch yesterday with the Communications Director of the trade association of the adult entertainment industry. And they are not in favour of
Their fears are the opposite of the US Government. They fear
Go crash his server.
First of all even if it DOES pass do they really think they're gonna be able to push all the porn sites into one domain...seriously. Secondly who is gonna be the comittee that sits down and says X is porn, Y isn't. Just how much of a breast can I show before it's porn? Will Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition become porn? This is my biggest concern. It just seems like too much of a damned fine line even bother passing this domain. Just my .02
There are two issues that I see with .xxx
.xxx?
1) Define porn. Any definition will have to involve questions of artistic merit, like they deal with in other cases.
2) What do you do with hybrid sites? I mean, wikipedia has several graphic illustrations in the human sexuality articles. Does wikipedia have to move fully to
Get the facts
What's the point? Most pr0n trading is done on the p2p networks anyhoo, so how are you going to save the kiddies by making an xxx domain? What's next? Blocking North Carolina computers to under 16's? Forcing the pr0n traders to type with their faces in the mud by the side of the road?
Funniest part here is, there would be SSSOOOOO many migrations of sites to the new domain, the rest of the internet would become a dead zone.
This demonstrates how stupid most people are about DNS.
.xxx, and types in the IP address? IP addresses don't end in .xxx. He's just sidestepped the filter.
What happens when the kid resolves
Would porn sites have to use email@porn.xxx for their emails? How about for their administrative FTP servers?
This is not something you fix in DNS, you fix it elsewhere. Anyone that doesn't recognize this immediately, has *no business* taking part in the discussion.
When has that ever stopped a Congressman from being a jackass and making a fool out of the nation?
I've upped my standards, so up yours.
What if the government decided to make it manditory that all adult related sites switch to .xxx? Or what if credit card companies and online-payment system stopped accepting adult orders from anything other than .xxx domains? What if the general public decided to rise up again adult sites that did not give up their .com for a .xxx? There are many ways the .xxx TLD could be enforced. But expect a lot of litigation no matter what route is taken.
Meh.
To all of you who say you can't define porn etc etc.
.xxx TLD many of the relevant sites will have a presence there.
.xxx
.biz or .info which the ICANN didn't seem to have any trouble approving.
.here and reserve it for public special use like the 192.168.x.x, 172.1x.x.x and 10.x.x.x addresses. So at least you can address devices or stuff that's kind of within the area". Like jukebox.here or whats.here, whos.here.
I believe the people providing porn and their target audience have a reasonable idea of what it is. If you create a
Just skip any stupid legislation trying to pin it down or require sites to use it or to not use it.
I mean when you do a Google search with site:.au you know you are looking for sites linked to or in Australia BUT of course it's not a 100% thing.
Same goes for
So I say it'll be useful to at least more people than it was to
If I were in charge of approving TLDs, I'd approve
The usefulness and novelty of being able to control a jukebox in UK from Turkmenistan wears off after a while. But as long as physical stuff remains important, it will remain useful to be able to address stuff by rough physical context/locality.
With this, people don't have to change their domain search paths or even have one (for security or other reasons). They might even be able to bookmark standard URLs for setting their favourite airconditioner temperature or something like that.
.XXX? Why not .CUM?
How ya like dat?
At Slashdot, we kid a lot about porn, but most of us are cool folks. We would never treat women in the trashy way that myRedbook promotes. We Slashdotters should use our skills to defeat the myRedbook scum.
myRedbook is not your usual porn site. There should be two IP naming suffixes: .XXX and .ILL. Sites like Playboy or Penthouse get the .XXX. Sites like myRedbook get .ILL. ILL = illegal.
Good idea/bad idea issues aside, if this were made mandatory what would the enforcement cost be, and who would pay it?
.XXX domain)? If not, then would they strictly be dictating what kind of content I could put on my site?
Last time I checked, domain names were treated like property. Suppose I own hotsweatymonkeysex.com (which I don't, unfortunately). Could they force me to give up my domain name without compensation (other than a free
The former is reminiscent of "imminent domain" (pun intended), and the latter is a violation of my freedom of speech. The only remaining option I could see would be for them to buy me out, but who would foot the bill?
Given the logistics of it, I could only see this working on a voluntary basis, which is to say that it wouldn't.
Just use reverse DNS, granted not everyone would have it set up but most would.
Also some filtering program should be able to easily associate IP's with DNS names using other methods.
Just use a different port. Filtering then becomes so simple that it's an absolute doddle. Never happen of course because it would make the multi-billion dollar filtering industry redundant.
So every website that vhosts on that IP is lumped in?
It's a shitty solution, and a stupid one that will not work. Period.
.XXX? Why not .CUM?
Because most of the orgasms are fake...
I love the limbo. How about you?
And what about doorway sites? Could somepornsite.com stay open to redirect people to their new domain? If so, could it be an automatic redirect?
Forcing porn sites to buy another domain is, in my opinion unreasonable. I don't think the government ought to be trying to put such regulations on the industry to begin with, but if they are going to make such regulations, they ought to do it with the subdomain rather than the TLD. For example, at the top of this page you see politics.slashdot.org. The porn sites could keep their domains and not have to pay anything extra, the only restriction being that they have to use xxx.somepornsite.net instead of www.somepornsite.com. It wouldn't cost them anything, and it would give the politicians what their looking for by creating something that's easy to block.
As I say, I'm very much opposed to any of the above regulations, but I think my suggestion is a less obtrusive method.
Drop all the generic names like com, net, org, biz and xxx.
Just use the countries extention and let the countries decide what is allowed and what not. Want xxx.us? Please do. You do not want it? Please don't. I could not care less.
Some countries will allow people from other countries to register, some won't. This wil solve the problem of people who think their countries price is to expensive.
The way this can be done is by fade-out. Just do not renew the names anymore and don't accept new ones.
Either that, or add many, many more TLDs and not only in English, but also in other languages. Cities could be a nice one to add and professions as well.
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I assume that everybody here knows that the dangers(uuuhhh) of the internet can't be avoided just by forcing some sites to a certain domain. (won't someone think of the children). The internet is not a nanny.
Still I can understand why a parent would want to filter the internet.
Really the only solution(not a perfect one) would be a white list, for example icra.org. I don't have a Windows box here but I remember that IE used to support this.
But of course it requires that the sites uses this. If you could get the parents to use this, then the sites would have to be rated here to avoid losing traffic.
I had a few sites with content unsuitable for some, and I used the icra label in the header so people could filter the sites out if they wanted.
The problem governments have with the .xxx domain is that, while it may make reguilation of porn easier (doubtful, by setting aside a domain for pornography, it _legitimatizes_ it. The govt would be in the uncomfortable position of saying that obscenity/pornography is bad, but here's a government approved place for it.
.xxx to go into effect because it would be endorsing something he wants to eradicate; after all, if porn was gone, .xxx wouldn't be needed. If the next president is a Democrat, .xxx will be endorsed "for our protection" - along with hefty fees to pay for the implementation of said regulation. (e-rate, anyone?)
It's analogous to the situation in Pennsylvania (and Montgomery County MD, where I live) with "states stores". In order to better regulate the sale of hard liquor (presumably more dangerous than beer), sales are only allowed through government owned stores. But this now makes the government the purveyor of a substance which can have dangerous consequences and bad societal results - alcoholism and drunk driving. And when this is pointed out, and the effectiveness of the "regulation" is called to question, the unspoken truth is that the State of PA and MontgoCo are as addicted to the money from sales as alcoholics are to what is sold.
So Bush doesn't want
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This demonstrates how stupid most people are about DNS. .xxx, and types in the IP address? IP addresses don't end in .xxx. He's just sidestepped the filter.
What happens when the kid resolves
This demonstrates how stupid most people are about webservers.
Yes, I know that this isn't the *only* way to do it, but it's the *common* way to do it - for apache, anyway, which is by far and away the most common webserver. And in practical terms, if you serve more than one domain (which is probably 99.9% of the porn servers), it IS pretty well the only way.
When you connect to a web server, it examines the domain name that you are trying to connect to, so it knows which pages to server you.
172.16.12.87 is NOT the same as www.chunkiechicks.com, so juniour would have to find his pork elsewhere.
.biz has really become the Utah of the Internet.
I'd like to get up some legislation to ban murder. But how do we define murder? Is putting an axe in someone's head murder? I guess we can all agree on that. How about feeding someone poison? Yep, we agree on that, too. What about telling someone that something is safe to eat when it's really poisoned? What about leaving poison somewhere where someone is likely to eat it by accident? What about putting rat poison down and then someone accidentally eats it? What about when rats eat through the poison container, and then someone eats it by accident?
Ah, stuff it, let's just not legislate against murder. It's too hard to define. People'll all just do the right thing, right?
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1) Define porn. Any definition will have to involve questions of artistic merit, like they deal with in other cases.
Why? Who cares? Sites that consider themselves to be pornographic will buy .xxx domains because it's good for business. Others won't.
In any case, porn isn't that hard to define. Porn is imagery whose primary purpose is sexual arousal. The question of art is irrelevant. Porn can be artistic, but that doesn't make it not porn. Art can be pornographic but that doesn't make it not art. And the fact that artistic porn is artistic doesn't mean I want to look at it, or want my kids to look at it.
But the question of the definition of porn is irrelevant in the present context.
What do you do with hybrid sites? I mean, wikipedia has several graphic illustrations in the human sexuality articles. Does wikipedia have to move fully to .xxx?
No one would *have* to move anywhere. No one ensures that businesses don't buy .org domains, or that ISPs don't buy .com domains, or... why would this be any different?
Even so, I expect that .xxx would be very popular for porn sites, so that blocking the domain would actually yield some benefit from those who want to avoid it. It wouldn't be perfect, of course, but nothing ever will. Imperfect solutions are still useful.
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If only the National Party had come to power under Don Brash, Wellington could be doing more constructive things for New Zealand...
Like joining your war in Iraq!
And removing our nuclear free zone!
No, I think it is the brains of ICANN that cripple it, not its current lattitude.
Don't see what you are complaining about... the .museum TLD allows us to more easily find important cultural facilities.
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Couldn't we just host all NWS pictures at a .xxx image host? "TinyPic.xxx"? It seems like it'd make filtering easier to just say "Don't load anything from a .xxx" domain rather than go through all kinds of complex protocol to determine if a site contains pornography. A lot of hosts have a problem with hosting porn anyway.
too true. far far too true. Their terrible social engineering was a large part of why i choose to live on the sunnier side of the Tasman.
I think that it is more the labour party than wellington per se though which causes the problems
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...and the politicians in Washington want something to take home to the constituents. Some of these folks are looking for *anything* they can take positive credit for, especially given the controversies of multiple wars, inflated budgets, and Plamegate. Wouldn't you be more inclined to vote for a politican who "helps keep our children safe from the dangers of smut and pornography" or (insert other positive spin here)?
As long as there is a Second Amendment, there will always be a First Amendment.
It doesn't matter whether XXX or whatever, use Tomahawk Desktop to see the website you want. If you use Tomahawk Desktop, there is only one way your ISP can block your access, block the IP address only.
:)
There are only two ways your ISP can block your access. 1) by the domain name 2) by IP address.
In first method is what ISPs normally use. That is, when you request DNS resolution for particular domain name, they don't give you the IP address for the domain name. So you cannot access it.
Second method is too expensive to implement by ISPs, ie, check all packets pass thru the ISP for known IP addresses of sites they want to block.
Tomahawk Desktop is probably the first desktop Operating System comes with its own DNS server. Therefore, Tomahawk Desktop, does not use your ISP's DNS server. It does its own DNS resolution. Its too expensive to block the Tomahawk Desktop
BigBoobs.xxx is the porn site, BigBoobs.gov is Bush and Cheney's home page. There is no excuse for making a mistake.
*by 'honest', I mean those sites that put up initial pages telling kids under 18 to scram and don't try to trick unwilling people into visiting their site.
Have gnu, will travel.
Yeh, so he has to install a firefox extension. Haha.
Besides, there are a few out there, where he would be served up a pornsite (even if not the one he intended) when he popped the IP in there. Just depends on how they have all the vhosting set up.
Also, does anyone have a user/pass for chunkiechicks.com?
I'd add .internal and .private and .home to your .here concept.
You wouldn't have to assign them to anything, either. Just define them as being private and that they'll never be issued.
Of course, you'd want appropriate translations of those into each language.
You can't get into them unless you pay anyway.
Oh, I guess "tour" pictures, "demo clips" and "free porn search" sites are safe for children then?
My own website is tough to recognize as a porn site, even once you've logged in.
.xxx to it, and fuck that up? Are they going to refund the money I paid for pdatabase.com? Will they trade me one domain for the other? Will I have claim to the .com, so some trademark-usurping asshole doesn't steal it?
The index, the login page... they'll never look like anything that would tip you off. Even if junior stumbles onto the site, no harm done. Why should I have to add
Again, this is not a problem that can be fixed from within DNS. You wouldn't leave your kids home with DirecTV's PPV balance paid up where they can order the Spice channel, why in the hell is it expected that someone else should have to fix the internet for them?
The idea is to not use .here to refer to RFC1918 addresses. The idea is to reserve .here for free special and _standard_ use. And so it may become an _easy_ way for doing certain stuff.
I mean, while you can use stuff 1.1.1.1, 5.4.3.2 etc locally and do whatever you want on your own network, it'll be more useful if things were standard and reserved.
That way it may be that people could go to any WiFi area and do http://here/ and see a "Site Page" which gives you more about the site like whether a WiFi site is open because someone was ignorant, or its intentional so polite people can feel better about using it (and the provider doesn't have to run something like nocatauth to redirect people on startup).
If wearable computers/servers become popular, being able to address bob.here and finding out whos.here and whats.here[1] could typically be more useful than bob.from.the.us, and who.someplace.foo.arizona.com even though bob may indeed be from the US.
[1] http://whats.here/ might give you a searchable store directory if you're in a mall, a menu if you're in a restaurant or cafe, a list of intentionally publicly accessible stuff if you're a visitor to a company, a bit about stuff in bob's house if it's in/around bob's house.
Whereas, to do that sort of thing currently you need to _force_ first time visitors to some form of starting page and have people either remember the url for a site or doing naughty stuff with DNS, and all that isn't very nice.
You deserve a trip to the executioner.
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The easiest way is to block all incoming connections from anything that resolves to a
There, instantly they've moved the "protect the children" from them and put it back on the parents.
Of course, they're not going to do this and I know it. Even if the major porn sites did, the lesser ones would not. Nor would non-US sites do it. But it would be the easiest solution with regards to "protecting the children". And it would clearly define any other attempts as a "free speech" issue.
"Get the facts"
If it was a fact it would be a track standard. It's not, it's Don Eastlake's opinion which is why it says "informative". In other words it's not a spec (like say, RFC822) it's an editorial comment. And it's a stupid one filled with FUD.
A lot of his points concern the semanitcs of ".sex" and do not apply to ".xxx"; for example his whining thart birth control may be moved into this "red light district".
Don has his own wacky ideas about TLDS shot down a decade ago and he's just pissed, that's all.
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What happens when the kid resolves .xxx, and types in the IP address?
.xxx in one of the domains?
On some websites, you get an error page. On the others, this can be worked around.
1. Get domain name for given IP
2. Is
3. Yes, ban the IP.
That's still much easier than analyzing the page content for keywords.
To do or say nothing about pornography is a cowardly copout.
The Internet is a public place and decency laws that apply to public conduct ought to apply.
We protect our kids by not allowing coitus to be publicly viewable on Main Steet and Broadway but it is there for all to see on the Internet without any restriction whatsoever. This is shameful but the smut-peddlers have no shame. If there's a strip club on Broadway and Main they have signs to indicate what the content on the inside is going to be like so my kids can't accidently walk inside. Not only that, there is usually someone at the door to prevent entry by minors. It's not like that on the Internet but it should be.
The "it's to hard to do" and "cultural difference" excuses are lame. It may take hard work and courage to address the need for decency but trying to do something about it is more honorable than doing nothing. I'm not being an idealist, I'm trying to be a brave realist about the need for decency and morality.
Do you have the moral courage to take a stance or are you a coward? Everyone answers this question one way or another.
Force all DNS requests to go to the local recusirve server. Setup a fake authoritative zone for ".xxx" that has a wildcard entry, which is pointed to your local "banned" page. And as far as visiting websites by IP address goes, there's an over abundance of sites using virtual hosting these days. You'd more than likely need to stick something in your hosts file as well.
Public display has nothing to do with optional communication. Your child does not need to surf the internet, and if for some reason he does, he shouldn't be able to do it without your guidance. If you are not willing to provide this guidance, you have no reason to complain.
I, for one, welcome our new Antichrist overlord.
Waht's next?
.069 - why not.
.mlf - no comments.
.les - keep them coming.
.hom - ughh!
.ana - maybe.
.sad - pass.
.mas - pass.
.bes - never mind.
.tit
My personal favotite:
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
what about .CUM ????
and you've raised the iq of both countries
This seems to be a bad first step for this type of internet de-sexing. Instead of trying to move ALL smut to a .XXX environment and pushing them to "The back of the bus".. Why don't we just create a .k12 or .kid, or .safe set of domains that kids sites can go under voluntarily. Site blockers could simply allow all .kid domains for their childs. Children based sites would be eager to switch to this, while the porn sites would be un-willing to change. I've been talking about this with my friends for sometime - and I'm honestly surprised this has never happened.
Common sense isn't something I expect out of the world anymore...
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Any system that tries to rely on the goodwill of a naturally sleazy business is doomed to fail no matter how you look at it.
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I dunno, I think at least half of them are real--how else do you explain ejaculate often found on/in the female's hair, face, breasts, vagina, anus, small of the back, armpits (?!), etc.?
".XXX? Why not .CUM?"
Because XXX means the same thing in every langauge.
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Still a dumb idea. I get a chuckle out of all the fools painting lipstick on this pig... anyone have a prom dress?
bootlegged rum?
Computers allow humans to make mistakes at the fastest speeds known, with the possible exception of tequila and handguns
this is the general idea i would suggest. if they want to accomplish anything i would go with something similar to how movies, tv shows, etc are rated and make TDLs out of those. maybe using TDLs such as .rated .safe .kids etc as the TDL and possible combinations to separate out what the 'standards' are for kids below 7, up to like 14, 17. or whatever.
.xxx domain is absurd and infeasible. at least with some system similar to this it would more likely to be accepted and put in place and it would be voluntary. im sure there is plenty of companies and what not that would be very willing to jump in on these domains to provide 'safe' content for kids and younger teens. might even enforce some extra rating software or what not to scan the material if possible, have ways to report things out of line, etc.
.com .net .org and all the other TDLs need to be left alone, consider them rated X or whatever.
k7.safe
t14.safe
t17.safe
maybe more combos, but the idea is there. moving all the porn sites to a
s/©//g
Actually "XXX" was (and still is, I believe) the symbol of the city of Amsterdam ...
Truly, they have cemented an enviable reputation in history.
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Already done ... and it doesn't work much better than blacklisting a voluntary .xxx
The problem with whitelist systems is getting onto the whitelist and staying on the whitelist.
In your scenario someone has to verify that sleazydude.safe really is 'safe' for kids/my mum. So sleazydude.safe's submitted content is OKed by some definition and they're sold the domain name. Then once they own the domain name, they change their content.
The existing whitelist solution is systems like netnanny (et al) that verify websites and continue to reverify them. This is not an easy process as it can't be completely automated, thus someone has to pay for the data, and has to pay for updates too.
Using the "We need this to protect our children from pornography" argument is utter crap. If you want to protect your kids from smut, sit down with them and help with with their homework. Restrict their internet access. If you don't trust your kids enough to stay away from things you don't think they should see, that's your problem, not the rest of the worlds. Step up, parents.
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How can they possibly expect people to figure out which content goes where? Maybe any site that talks about sex? Does wikipedia go into .xxx ? How about a political blog that talks about sexual morality?
.xxx as well. Until they make it illegal .. and then well I dunno .. why is it so hard to convince the majority of truth and reality??
.pol for politics. Maybe ISP's can charge extra to access it instead of .xxx only.
..until we cant say shit about anything that is (literally).
Without a doubt this is a first move towards censorship. I'd say we should have non xxx content on
Maybe we can have a
It'll be funny watching the lawsuits fly back and forth
These are spread throughout the city. SFW
When the policeman of the tie, rule you violate, hello punishment of the kitty?
The copier may be trying to raise his karma. See his posting history.
While it will be used for caterogization, it is more important to note that the real reason is to prevent the youngsters from accessing porn of any kind http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.xxx .xxx domain. Something greater than a 2257 statement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2257
There is also potential for a domain that has to be checked and scrutinized to make sure that no child porn is posted as a requirement for qualification as a
I think they are on the right track with this
I'm not so sure porn is so bad for my kids, but I don't want them to risk being brainwashed by religions and want to filter them more easily. Where do I apply for a .rel? :-p
Seriously, when the DNS is used to push for stances a group of people may have, I doubt it's used for the right purposes. It's not a political tool to censor content "unpleasant" to some, it's a tool to build hierarchies.
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...for my non-erotic nude art photography.
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Seriously. Exclude the current TLDs, but auction off all of the rest of them. Someone out there would own .a through .aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, etc, etc, etc.
There's old auction methods for dividing up continuous goods.
There'd be no need to debate the merits of whether this or that TLD should be approved or provide a justification for their existence. The separation between .com, .net, .info, and the rest has long since gone.
Also, it would keep anyone from having a choke-hold on the DNS system like the US does now.
Auction them off, draw up deeds, make them property - resellable and divisible. Let people decide their own meanings for DNS names.
I gather that only a few TLD registrars are contracted to pay ICANN - .jp and .au being among them. Most of the others also pay, but voluntarily. Recently, .ca (Canada) has decided to stop paying, and .jp and .au are wondering why they are the only ones actually contracted.
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There should be a .mp3 TLD. That would make it sooooo much easier to find illegal downloads, right?
oh wait...
Because XXX means the same thing in every langauge.
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Triple X syndrome? It does look like ICANN has it:
http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/yourchild/xxxsyn.h
"# Speech and language delays and learning disabilities
# Delayed development of certain motor skills"
It's all about delays.
Only slightly off-topic:
The origin of these crosses is not known but historians believe it is a reference to 3 plagues (water, fire and smallpocks) that killed a lot of inhabitants.
Read, refresh, repeat.
Did you miss the sarcastic reference to Microsoft's infamous marketing campaign?
So what happens if you post a naked picture on a .com?
.XXX is just impossible to do in a free speech inter connected, cross linked webpage where anyone has the ability to post any content they please.
.xxx but its displayed on an html page on a .com?
:)
You go to jail?
Lets say i put the naked picture of my girl on a
We can not child proof adulthood in a free country.
Then again, we arent really free are we?
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Because prostitution is, of course, illegal in every country in the world.
ILL = illegal.
That would be for women without burkas, speech against the government of the peoples republic, and suggesting that only 5.9 million jews were gassed during WW2...
All those things that are illegal somewhere in the world.
ian
.. for the porn sites. 1. Register .xxx domain
2. Redirect .com domain to .xxx domain
All the traffic from .com goes to .xxx
People can still block .xxx without taking away the porn site's .com
Anything that can isolate porn from the youngsters is something that everyone should be interested in.
Why? Why should I even care? What's so wrong with it?
If a child of mine stumbled across images of people getting their heads blown off on rotten.com, images of people being shot on the news, or even an animal rights site showing images of a slaughterhouse, I'd been more concerned than if they saw images of naked people.
I'm going to be terribly blunt. By the age of eight, at the latest, a child should know where babies come from, what sex is and have a reasonable idea of why people do it. Anything less and I question the competance of their guardians.
If they have even the most basic access to the internet, they should know what pornography is, and simply be advised to avoid it where possible. But none of this should discourage them from using the internet to ask questions and gain information.
The absolute worst thing you can do is make anything to do with sex taboo. If you do, you stand a substantial risk of making your child a genuine deviant. It's been proven time and again, when sex is repressed, it becomes a source of mental ill health. My personal opinion is that the red states are chocobloc with closet perverts.
The only way children will be "traumatised" by images of sex is if they had serious mental issues with sex to begin with. Issues more than likely caused by parental actions. If you've actually done your job as a parent, they should just have a good giggle.
May the Maths Be with you!
.xxx is an immoral TLD extension. This *SHOULD* be held up like this.
Who decides what's moral and what's not? George W. Bush & Co.? The religious right?
TLD's should not be judged by the morals of a few Americans - we all have to live with them.
Once .xxx comes to force, It will be fruitfull if legislation is enacted which forbids xxx content on all OTHER extensions.
Existing popular adult websites should be given time for changing their domain names and priority should be given for same domain names..i.e if a owner owns ..blablablow.com then they automatically become the first contender for blablablow.xxx.
Google, yahoo, msn must be advised to rank the new websites on par with their old domain extensions provided the content remains the same.
Forwarding of old domains to new .xxx should be allowe d to take place until such a time when little or no traffic comes from the old domain name.
Chris ,
Php Programmers.
They're sure to be "reportin" on a XXX Sega too, at this rate.
Let's not sidestep this thing. All RFCs are meant to be informative in some way, yet few of them are standards.
They aren't trying to push this as a standard either. The fact that it got out as a RFC just says that it's Probably a Good Idea.
And exactly why doesn't that apply, again?
Please consider the reply very carefully before you reply. It is crucial.
The fact that the gTLD has changed from .sex to .xxx doesn't really change any of the reasons why people wouldn't try moving birth-control information there, nor would it affect the outcome the slightest.
If we're going to be forcing porn-folk into a .xxx ghetto, I think we should force the other profoundly morally objectionable people into a ghetto as well, so we can easily lock it out. I am, of course, talking about religion. (We've already got politicians in .gov, and I've got them locked out at home using that... wouldn't want my kids reading government propoganda.) So for the religious types, we should do the same. Maybe .rlg (actually, maybe .bunk would be better.) Lawyers too. .law or .shyster perhaps... yes, and while we're at it, let's put the spammers in... not a domain... no... how about the caldera of Vesuvius?
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Uhhh, any filter worth its bits will do a DNS lookup on that address and find that .xxx TLD.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Cool, so we can poison DNS, and keep schools off the net. Won't that be cool.
Wrong, prostitution is not illegal in some countries. New Zealand, for example. How about you leave your morals on your 2nd level domain, and we leave ours in our .nz domain.
- Kaos games and encryption systems developer
i see various TLDs as city neighborhoods. dotcom and dotnet are the downtown portions of the city-- the ones that were around before you even moved to the city, and the good realestate is all taken now. maybe you can find some crappy realestate on the fringes of the dotcom neighborhood (i.e. www.somereallylongandhardtorecalldomain.com) but that's about it. .info, .tv (as it's used, ignore the fact that it technically belongs to tuvalu), .xxx, etc are all the "newer" areas of the city that aren't as desireable as downtown, but as their real estate sells and they begin to prosper, those that buy in early will eventually reap some reward/equity. Certain neighborhoods/regions of a city may be devoted more to certain industries, to commercial properties, to residential dwellings, etc. .XXX is no exception.. even with plenty of 'adult' dotcom sites, having a section of the virtual city that is primarily devoted to adult content does two good things.. 1: you know most sites with .xxx suffix will be an adult site, and 2: it opens up valuable realestate for new businesses.
did any of this make sense? it is 4am.
this is whack