Trolls like it more when you say things like that, and then proceed to respond to their points. It's similar to saying, "I know that you know that 2+2 does not equal 5, but here's a proof as to why it doesn't".
The thing is, old style banners are no longer profitable, as anyone can tell you. The advertisers are now paying.0000001cent USD for a page view. This is a way for people to make more money for there websites.
It would help if every crappy site didn't advertise for things. Why does www.joecrackuserspage.com need an ad? That just dilutes the pool of resources.
In other words, this will help decrease the number of sites that have ads, but it will increase the amount of ad revenue for each site. Sites that need ad revenue will have no problem keeping visitors, as k5's recent foray into ads has proven.
So leave it be and support banners, because you are supporting the web. Remember, information may want to be free as in speech, but someone better be paying for my beer.
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Just for the record.....
Signal 11 was not a troll. He was a karma whore.
Shoeboy is not a troll. He is a humorist.
I mean come on, listening to this guy whine because he got laid off. That's what happens when you have a company that has negative earnings for its entire lifespan. What can people expect?
And all the talk of last years marketing and industry buzz. Where is the surprise that it wasn't all it would be cracked up to be? Did Barclay expect Bezos to give him a rubdown everynight after making his bed a putting a mint on his pillow?
Unions in technology area BAD idea. Tech labor is still way too valuable, and techs hold most of the power. You don't/have/ to work 70 hour weeks in this industry. The people who do usually want to because they expect a big payoff (IPO what have you).
This is nowhere near a situation similar to autoworkers where they are being treated with low wages and unsafe working environments.
This is nothing like the steelworkers who have been losing jobs by the thousand due to companies closing up shop.
Grow up, update your resume, and find a new job.
If he's as good as they told him he was in the first place, he shouldn't have a problem.
Therefore, I have to learn another language to understand the computers.
At this point, I am fluent so it is meaningless. Not to mention that I live in USia now as well. I was just pointing out that he is lucky to have any tools at all, and should work with what he has instead of sitting around and whining about it.
If he wants to develop better tools, then more power to him, but otherwise he needs to come to terms.
You are saying that since MS is the only software that can handle Hebrew, you would be restricting your freedom by using it?
The fact is, if noone else has done enough, you only have one choice. Why is it so bad? At least you/have/ a choice at all.
I was raised speaking basque, and NO operating systems support my language. SO I have been forced to learn English. But the benefits far outweigh the penalties. I say quit crying and use the best tool for the job. Even if it's the only tool. Even if it's MS.
Correction, if a person makes 5 phone calls a week, and 4 are personal, they are getting fired.
They don't belong on the phone. Take off work if you want, but you aren't going to get paid for it.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Most spoiled white suburbanite slashbots have a hard time understanding real-world economics, and prefer to live their lives under the impression that money is dropped on them from magic fairies while you live under someone else's roof, drive someone else's car, and masturbate furiously as you download yet another "hax0red" program because once again you have "stuck it" to the "man".
Your use of irony is weak at best. If 90% of phone calls in my office were not work related, I would fire people. Calling a daycare once is not a problem. Calling your friends all day is. Not only is it counter-productive, but it/costs money/. Most Businesses pay on a per/call basis, even for local calls.
Please come join the real world before you go spouting your know-nothing high-school garbage.
makes a pretty cool Pencam, which although doesn't do soundon it's video, is neato for feeling like a spy when you're a kid, or for getting those special moments alone with your do^H^H^H^Hwife on film when you are an adult. It is under a hundred bucks USD.
This is the only way that Linux will get accepted into the mainstream. Look at windows help, it's very easy and searchable, and they are a million intro to's, classes, cdroms etc.. Until we as a community begin to treat the average user how they want to be treated, with pretty graphics and dance numbers about how to copy and paste in Netscape, Linux will be ignored from a desktop point of view.
Of course, none of this will be able to happen without a set of standards. Support the LSB!
Not recognizing your username, I don't know if you post to k5 or not, but hi, I'm TheReverand, and I'm a slashdot troll. I also read kuro5hin. I don't troll it. Neither do any other of the well known trolls you may have heard of reading/. over the years. Why?
Simple, they have a balance there that was lost on slashdot years ago.
Most of us began trolling around here for the same reasons,
1. The moderation system and
2. The problems moderation caused.
What kind of problems? Groupthink. Moderation encourages groupthink, as signal 11 has demonstrated again and again.
So with each story, you have hundreds of posts saying the same things over and over again, each grasping at that elusive "karma". Maybe it was bad idea for Rob to name it that. It was probably the best he could do at the time as there was nothing really like this place before. Has k5 done better? I don't know, but it works for now, and we respect that. Will it scale when (if) they have a quarter million users and a couple million hits a day? I don't know.
Anyway,/. hasn't really gone downhill. It is the same as it has been for a long time, just moreso. The amount of crap has increased proportionally to the amount of creamy goodness, but with the advent of the karma cap, people who mistakenly believed that it was some kind of prize/reward/measurement of ones technical penis length, have stopped posting. The "Game" era of slashdot is at an end as it morphs into a zdnet type site that shoots out headline after headline.
Slashdot Mirror
Little tip from an ex-troll.
Trolls like it more when you say things like that, and then proceed to respond to their points. It's similar to saying, "I know that you know that 2+2 does not equal 5, but here's a proof as to why it doesn't".
Either way, you lose.
HTH
[insert joke about porting to abacus here].
My favorite level is 'holes and hackers'. I just love patching my security holes before 1377 k7dd7ez come in and 0wn m3.
Redhat IPO's
It would help if every crappy site didn't advertise for things. Why does www.joecrackuserspage.com need an ad? That just dilutes the pool of resources.
In other words, this will help decrease the number of sites that have ads, but it will increase the amount of ad revenue for each site. Sites that need ad revenue will have no problem keeping visitors, as k5's recent foray into ads has proven.
So leave it be and support banners, because you are supporting the web. Remember, information may want to be free as in speech, but someone better be paying for my beer.
Signal 11 was not a troll. He was a karma whore.
Shoeboy is not a troll. He is a humorist.
HTH
"The qustion is, how much more black could this be, and the answer is, well, none."
Brilliant reference. +5 funny
And all the talk of last years marketing and industry buzz. Where is the surprise that it wasn't all it would be cracked up to be? Did Barclay expect Bezos to give him a rubdown everynight after making his bed a putting a mint on his pillow?
Unions in technology area BAD idea. Tech labor is still way too valuable, and techs hold most of the power. You don't /have/ to work 70 hour weeks in this industry. The people who do usually want to because they expect a big payoff (IPO what have you).
This is nowhere near a situation similar to autoworkers where they are being treated with low wages and unsafe working environments.
This is nothing like the steelworkers who have been losing jobs by the thousand due to companies closing up shop.
Grow up, update your resume, and find a new job.
If he's as good as they told him he was in the first place, he shouldn't have a problem.
hey where you been?
so :P you big meanie.
Here's the problem,
No OS'es in my language.
No way to learn about computers
Therefore, I have to learn another language to understand the computers.
At this point, I am fluent so it is meaningless. Not to mention that I live in USia now as well. I was just pointing out that he is lucky to have any tools at all, and should work with what he has instead of sitting around and whining about it.
If he wants to develop better tools, then more power to him, but otherwise he needs to come to terms.
Dos 6.22 was woefully lacking in basque support ;)
The fact is, if noone else has done enough, you only have one choice. Why is it so bad? At least you /have/ a choice at all.
I was raised speaking basque, and NO operating systems support my language. SO I have been forced to learn English. But the benefits far outweigh the penalties. I say quit crying and use the best tool for the job. Even if it's the only tool. Even if it's MS.
They don't belong on the phone. Take off work if you want, but you aren't going to get paid for it.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand that. Most spoiled white suburbanite slashbots have a hard time understanding real-world economics, and prefer to live their lives under the impression that money is dropped on them from magic fairies while you live under someone else's roof, drive someone else's car, and masturbate furiously as you download yet another "hax0red" program because once again you have "stuck it" to the "man".
HTH
Please come join the real world before you go spouting your know-nothing high-school garbage.
Ignore him, fascdot is still bitter since he couldn't auction his account.
There is the NT Option Pack. You were searching for the wrong thing.
Get.
Over.
It.
Oracle
MSSQL
Progress
DB2
Etc...
That's plenty of comptetion I think.
Pencam
makes a pretty cool Pencam, which although doesn't do soundon it's video, is neato for feeling like a spy when you're a kid, or for getting those special moments alone with your do^H^H^H^Hwife on film when you are an adult. It is under a hundred bucks USD.
Of course, none of this will be able to happen without a set of standards. Support the LSB!
wow you're an idiot. This guy wrote all of this and still beat you by 5 posts. What kind of lamer are you?
Wow, that was one of the lamest first posts I have ever seen. You should try harder. It's 3am eastern, it's not like you have a lot of competition.
Simple, they have a balance there that was lost on slashdot years ago.
Most of us began trolling around here for the same reasons,
1. The moderation system and
2. The problems moderation caused.
What kind of problems? Groupthink. Moderation encourages groupthink, as signal 11 has demonstrated again and again.
So with each story, you have hundreds of posts saying the same things over and over again, each grasping at that elusive "karma". Maybe it was bad idea for Rob to name it that. It was probably the best he could do at the time as there was nothing really like this place before. Has k5 done better? I don't know, but it works for now, and we respect that. Will it scale when (if) they have a quarter million users and a couple million hits a day? I don't know.
Anyway, /. hasn't really gone downhill. It is the same as it has been for a long time, just moreso. The amount of crap has increased proportionally to the amount of creamy goodness, but with the advent of the karma cap, people who mistakenly believed that it was some kind of prize/reward/measurement of ones technical penis length, have stopped posting. The "Game" era of slashdot is at an end as it morphs into a zdnet type site that shoots out headline after headline.
rev