--buildpkg (-b)
Tells emerge to build binary packages for all ebuilds processed in addition to actually merging the packages. Useful for maintainers or if you administrate multiple Gentoo Linux systems (build once, emerge tbz2s everywhere). The package will be created in the ${PKGDIR}/All directory. An alternative for already-merged packages is to use quickpkg which creates a tbz2 from the live filesystem. --buildpkgonly (-B)
Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without actually merging the packages. This comes with the caveat that all build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system.
--getbinpkg (-g)
Using the server and location defined in PORTAGE_BINHOST (see make.conf(5)), portage will download the information from each binary package found and it will use that information to help build the dependency list. This option implies -k. (Use -gK for binary-only merging.) --getbinpkgonly (-G)
This option is identical to -g, as above, except it will not use ANY information from the local machine. All binaries will be downloaded from the remote server without consulting packages existing in the local packages directory.
so it appears that Portage can not only install binary packages, but it can grab them remotely, too.
I don't quite understand what your argument is here. I posted saying that both FreeBSD and Gentoo allow you the choice of compiling your code our installing packages, to the best of my knowledge. I know the philosophy of Gentoo is based around custom compiles, but they still include an alternative. I know FreeBSD can grab the binary packages from an online repository much as apt-get can, but I am unsure if Gentoo can do that or if you need to provide the binary packages yourself (i.e. compiling on a central server then distributing to clients).
I haven't used either extensively enough to fully answer your question, but I do know that Gentoo allows you to keep a custom "overlay" so you can have portage manage "custom" packages. As for *BSD ports/pkgsrc, I don't know exactly, but I know that FreeBSD Ports is named so because the packages are ported to run natively in BSD.
What you speak of is definitely in *BSD, and I think it might be a part of Gentoo. I know for a fact that in FreeBSD, you can manually compile from Ports or you can use pkg_add (i believe from pkgsrc) to install a binary package. pkg_add has an option to grab a remote copy if you do not have one locally. Gentoo's portage is theoretically based on FreeBSD ports (hence PORTage). Portage makes it simple compile your own packages, and I believe there is an option to install a precompiled binary but I am not 100% sure if you can tell portage to grab the binary from a remote server or if it needs to be available locally.
Because your average home user buying an off the shelf PC (regardless of who it's from) has no idea what Open Office is
All the people I've dealt with have no idea what 'Works', is too. I wonder how many times the techs have been asked "does Works include Word?". It's been so long since I used Works that the only difference I can remember is that Works and Word have different native file formats. I really don't think most users would be able to notice any difference functionally between the two.
I have no idea what the stats are on sales w/ Office vs. sales without, but from my personal experience, I'd assume that most people decide not to bundle Office with their system purchase. And, I'd be willing to bet that given a cheaper alternative like OOo, an even bigger majority would not bundle Works with their system, too. My guesses as to why would be (A) on bargain PC's any added cost is not wanted, so Works right now is the cheap option and it is "good enough", or, (B) they aren't going to use Works anyway and are going to use their own copy of Office, so they don't want the added cost.
Over on Overclockers Forums we have a pretty good comunity of overclockers that use Linux/Unix/BSD/Alternative OS's, especially because we have a Folding@Home team (Team 32) that likes to run Ubuntu 64bit in a VM in Windows to use the SMP client to increase their PPD.
"employers must pay you for those two full-weeks even if they choose to not let you stay after you give your notice. "
from my experience, this is false. I got a job offer from a competitor to my company, I asked my boss to match the offer, but he couldn't, so I gave him my 2 weeks notice. He said "no, consider this your last day." My boss said the reason he didn't want me to put in the two weeks was because I was going to a competitor. I was only 1 year out of college so my dad was pretty much holding my hand through this process, because he obviously has much more experience at this sort of thing. He was telling me the same thing you are saying, that if I gave my 2 weeks notice and the company refused them, then I was still due 2 weeks pay. However, the HR lady told me that she has never paid out 2 weeks pay when some one left and the 2 weeks notice was refused. Her story was corroborated by a lady in my office who used to work HR in a former job.
In fact, most company handbooks say that either party, the employer or the employee, can terminate the relationship at any time without prior notice (well, at least it was in both of the handbooks for the two companies I have worked for, so I assume it's standard). Unless there is a clause in the company handbook about going to a competitor or in the employees contract, the company in the OP has no legal basis to sue. (IANAL)
if it was me, I would've taken the sign/light and just said "i'm going to blow this up at home guys, thanks." and kept it. Those things are frickin' sweet.
on the contrary, this article makes NO good points. First of all, he is using old hardware and then he complains about the time it takes to compile packages. Duh. Slow computer + large packages like Apache and MySQL = a lot of time spent compiling. The writer talks about the inital install taking a long time. Yes, my first time installing Gentoo using the CLI took a long time, too, because I was spending more time reading the documentation than performing the steps. The documentation is stupendous, btw. Now that I have gone through a few installs, I can pretty much do it all on my own, but I still refer to the Quick Install Guide for reference. He then complains about the Stage 3 install losing the "compile everything" mentality. Wrong again, because the nature of Gentoo is that as you change USE flags and packages get updated, then the base system will naturally update itself. So, the Stage 3 install simply removes a lot of initial compiling to get you in to a base system quicker. The author then complains about Gentoo wanting you to upgrade everything all of the time and not being stable. Wrong again. You perform an initial `emerge -vauDN world` to update the base system to your new, custom USE flags. Once you install packages and you only want to keep specfic packages up to date, you only need to update that package using `emerge -vau package` (v is verbose, a is ask, both are good so you know exactly what is going on, but not essential). And, as a lot of other people have pointed out, if you do not use the unstable keywords, you will be on a very stable system. Also, no config files will be overwritten unless you tell them to be. The `etc-update` program shows you what needs to be updated, and allows you to merge, overwrite, or ignore the updates. He then says "Gentoo wants you to change a lot of stuff. It wants to be bleeding edge." This is also false. Gentoo wants you to do whatever you want to on your own system. It wants to be as current as you want it to be. Gentoo is all about control and knowing your system.
Obviously, the author has used Gentoo once and now believes he is an expert on the subject. If he had used it more than once, he would see that all of his arguments hold no weight. Every distribution has their own way of doing things, and when you change from one to the other, it takes time to learn the new procedures.
and for the record, I tried to install Debian Woody on my pentium 133 laptop. It took an entire 7 days to download and update the base system. And that was a full 7 days of straight work. Thus, I decided to pick a distribution that was more appropriate for the system and settled on DSL. Also, I switched to Gentoo from Slackware on my server because I always found my self reading the Gentoo documentation for help in setting things up on Slackware, and I like the FreeBSD-esque package manager (Portage is based on Ports). Personally, I would always choose a BSD in a production environment. "BSD on the server; Linux on the desktop," as the old addage goes.
Sure, this has been around for years, and I swear I've seen it on the Slashdot front page before, too. Still, the only way I know of finding this deal is by typing http://www.dell.com/linux in to the address bar by hand. I just found a tiny link on the side under the heading "Have You Considered?" when you view the Precision workstation line, but nothing on the Dimension product line page. It would be nice if Dell made it a little more pronounced that there really are options out there besides Windows.
They probably should've written a story about how they fixed their memory problems and with Rev. 2 of the 965p-DS3, higher FSB's can be reached. But I guess that's not news to some people.
I haven't used the latest versions but the one I used, 5.5, was lightyears behind Final Cut Pro.
are you serious? Hmm, let's see what other outrageous comparisons we can make...
Windows 95 is light years behind Mac OS X 10.4.
Mac OS 9 is light years behind Windows Vista.
Premiere Pro is at v. 2.0 right now, and v 1.0 was released in 2003. I did a quick search and can't find a specific launch date for Premiere 5.5, but I'll estimate it was in 1999. Even if you've never used Premiere before, I think you could conclude that they've made significant changes in 7+ years and several point releases. I have been using Premiere since version 6.5, and I can say that it is a very good blend of ease of use and advanced features. I can also say that when Adobe changed over to "Premiere Pro" they made it a lot more pleasant to use.
"AutoCAD is by far the industry standard CAD tool for engineering drawings. When I was an engineering student it was on every computer in the college of engineering."
I couldn't wait to comment on this, too. Autocad is used in architecture. Any engineering discipline that deals with architecture will use it, but I would hardly call it the "standard CAD tool for engineering." At my school, we all learned Pro/E and not one of the computers in the engineering school had Autocad on it. Sure, Autocad tried to get in to doing 3d stuff, too, but I have never heard of anyone doing mechanical design in Autocad. I don't think anyone would argue that Autocad is not the standard app for archtecture (sorry Microstation).
when i saw the slashdot front page, i thought "i read that over a month ago". Then I realized they were linking to hardocp and not anandtech. Glad some one else caught this too.
i am also confused. I actually read through the lady's paper because I thought it might give an example of one or more false-memories, but of course it didn't. Where the false memories similar to the the subject saying the camera was blue when it was orange? Or remembering the flash being on the left instead of it really being on the right? Or something more technical like remembering the camera had a Pentium 4 processor when it didn't really? Can some one please give me an example?
In the second test, it says that one group was told to use their imagination when taking the "test" while another group was told to not use their imagination. It then said that the group told to use their imagination ended up with more false memories. Is this not stikingly obvious? If you tell some one to make something up, is it really noteworthy that they in fact did make something up?
I took some psych, cognitive learning, and sociology classes in college, and my biggest beef with all of them is that they take every day, obvious things and apply scientific names to them so they sound important.
Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see how this is signifant or how it applies to anything other than marketing.
if it wasn't MS, most likely it would have been some one else. So, we'd still be in the same place today, but complaining about some other company being rich, successful, greedy, and evil.
I'm amazed (well, not really) that I've read through so many posts all bashing MS for needing to "trick" people in to buying their new product. Then I remembered this is Slashdot, and this is an article on MS so I settled down a little bit. But, this is not simply a MS problem, this is a problem with every company that produces a product that needs to be sold. Products do not always sell themselves. This is why some people make a living as a "Salesman" or "Saleswoman". Brace yourself for a car analogy: New cars come out every year, yet people still drive around in their beat up old 1980 Chevy pickup that would be worth more money as scrap metal. Even when it refuses to start or leaves them stranded on the side of the road, they will spend hours fixing it instead of buying a new truck. To them, it is "good enough". So, card companies routinely come up with new ways to try and show how their truck is not "good enough" anymore and they really need to buy the brand new truck with navigation and upgraded audio. It is much easier to see how the brand new tuck really is "better", but that old truck is still "good enough" for many people. And in reality, you can carry this analogy over to any industry that needs to sell a product.
So, continue with the MS bashing, but please realize this is not a localized problem.
Humans are very superficial. As the saying goes, first impressions are everything. You need the looks to grab everyone's attention, then you need substance to keep it.
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you hang out with the wrong people: http://gentoo-wiki.com/MAN_emerge
specifically:
--buildpkg (-b)
Tells emerge to build binary packages for all ebuilds processed in addition to actually merging the packages. Useful for maintainers or if you administrate multiple Gentoo Linux systems (build once, emerge tbz2s everywhere). The package will be created in the ${PKGDIR}/All directory. An alternative for already-merged packages is to use quickpkg which creates a tbz2 from the live filesystem.
--buildpkgonly (-B)
Creates binary packages for all ebuilds processed without actually merging the packages. This comes with the caveat that all build-time dependencies must already be emerged on the system.
--getbinpkg (-g)
Using the server and location defined in PORTAGE_BINHOST (see make.conf(5)), portage will download the information from each binary package found and it will use that information to help build the dependency list. This option implies -k. (Use -gK for binary-only merging.)
--getbinpkgonly (-G)
This option is identical to -g, as above, except it will not use ANY information from the local machine. All binaries will be downloaded from the remote server without consulting packages existing in the local packages directory.
so it appears that Portage can not only install binary packages, but it can grab them remotely, too.
I don't quite understand what your argument is here. I posted saying that both FreeBSD and Gentoo allow you the choice of compiling your code our installing packages, to the best of my knowledge. I know the philosophy of Gentoo is based around custom compiles, but they still include an alternative. I know FreeBSD can grab the binary packages from an online repository much as apt-get can, but I am unsure if Gentoo can do that or if you need to provide the binary packages yourself (i.e. compiling on a central server then distributing to clients).
I haven't used either extensively enough to fully answer your question, but I do know that Gentoo allows you to keep a custom "overlay" so you can have portage manage "custom" packages. As for *BSD ports/pkgsrc, I don't know exactly, but I know that FreeBSD Ports is named so because the packages are ported to run natively in BSD.
What you speak of is definitely in *BSD, and I think it might be a part of Gentoo. I know for a fact that in FreeBSD, you can manually compile from Ports or you can use pkg_add (i believe from pkgsrc) to install a binary package. pkg_add has an option to grab a remote copy if you do not have one locally. Gentoo's portage is theoretically based on FreeBSD ports (hence PORTage). Portage makes it simple compile your own packages, and I believe there is an option to install a precompiled binary but I am not 100% sure if you can tell portage to grab the binary from a remote server or if it needs to be available locally.
Because your average home user buying an off the shelf PC (regardless of who it's from) has no idea what Open Office is
All the people I've dealt with have no idea what 'Works', is too. I wonder how many times the techs have been asked "does Works include Word?". It's been so long since I used Works that the only difference I can remember is that Works and Word have different native file formats. I really don't think most users would be able to notice any difference functionally between the two.
I have no idea what the stats are on sales w/ Office vs. sales without, but from my personal experience, I'd assume that most people decide not to bundle Office with their system purchase. And, I'd be willing to bet that given a cheaper alternative like OOo, an even bigger majority would not bundle Works with their system, too. My guesses as to why would be (A) on bargain PC's any added cost is not wanted, so Works right now is the cheap option and it is "good enough", or, (B) they aren't going to use Works anyway and are going to use their own copy of Office, so they don't want the added cost.
I'll admit it's a longshot and might not be mature enough for business desktop use, but I'm voting PC-BSD with it's PBI system.
Over on Overclockers Forums we have a pretty good comunity of overclockers that use Linux/Unix/BSD/Alternative OS's, especially because we have a Folding@Home team (Team 32) that likes to run Ubuntu 64bit in a VM in Windows to use the SMP client to increase their PPD.
"employers must pay you for those two full-weeks even if they choose to not let you stay after you give your notice. "
from my experience, this is false. I got a job offer from a competitor to my company, I asked my boss to match the offer, but he couldn't, so I gave him my 2 weeks notice. He said "no, consider this your last day." My boss said the reason he didn't want me to put in the two weeks was because I was going to a competitor. I was only 1 year out of college so my dad was pretty much holding my hand through this process, because he obviously has much more experience at this sort of thing. He was telling me the same thing you are saying, that if I gave my 2 weeks notice and the company refused them, then I was still due 2 weeks pay. However, the HR lady told me that she has never paid out 2 weeks pay when some one left and the 2 weeks notice was refused. Her story was corroborated by a lady in my office who used to work HR in a former job.
In fact, most company handbooks say that either party, the employer or the employee, can terminate the relationship at any time without prior notice (well, at least it was in both of the handbooks for the two companies I have worked for, so I assume it's standard). Unless there is a clause in the company handbook about going to a competitor or in the employees contract, the company in the OP has no legal basis to sue. (IANAL)
if it was me, I would've taken the sign/light and just said "i'm going to blow this up at home guys, thanks." and kept it. Those things are frickin' sweet.
on the contrary, this article makes NO good points. First of all, he is using old hardware and then he complains about the time it takes to compile packages. Duh. Slow computer + large packages like Apache and MySQL = a lot of time spent compiling. The writer talks about the inital install taking a long time. Yes, my first time installing Gentoo using the CLI took a long time, too, because I was spending more time reading the documentation than performing the steps. The documentation is stupendous, btw. Now that I have gone through a few installs, I can pretty much do it all on my own, but I still refer to the Quick Install Guide for reference. He then complains about the Stage 3 install losing the "compile everything" mentality. Wrong again, because the nature of Gentoo is that as you change USE flags and packages get updated, then the base system will naturally update itself. So, the Stage 3 install simply removes a lot of initial compiling to get you in to a base system quicker. The author then complains about Gentoo wanting you to upgrade everything all of the time and not being stable. Wrong again. You perform an initial `emerge -vauDN world` to update the base system to your new, custom USE flags. Once you install packages and you only want to keep specfic packages up to date, you only need to update that package using `emerge -vau package` (v is verbose, a is ask, both are good so you know exactly what is going on, but not essential). And, as a lot of other people have pointed out, if you do not use the unstable keywords, you will be on a very stable system. Also, no config files will be overwritten unless you tell them to be. The `etc-update` program shows you what needs to be updated, and allows you to merge, overwrite, or ignore the updates. He then says "Gentoo wants you to change a lot of stuff. It wants to be bleeding edge." This is also false. Gentoo wants you to do whatever you want to on your own system. It wants to be as current as you want it to be. Gentoo is all about control and knowing your system.
Obviously, the author has used Gentoo once and now believes he is an expert on the subject. If he had used it more than once, he would see that all of his arguments hold no weight. Every distribution has their own way of doing things, and when you change from one to the other, it takes time to learn the new procedures.
and for the record, I tried to install Debian Woody on my pentium 133 laptop. It took an entire 7 days to download and update the base system. And that was a full 7 days of straight work. Thus, I decided to pick a distribution that was more appropriate for the system and settled on DSL. Also, I switched to Gentoo from Slackware on my server because I always found my self reading the Gentoo documentation for help in setting things up on Slackware, and I like the FreeBSD-esque package manager (Portage is based on Ports). Personally, I would always choose a BSD in a production environment. "BSD on the server; Linux on the desktop," as the old addage goes.
http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/im ages/dilbert20071832660125.gif
Totally relevant.
Sure, this has been around for years, and I swear I've seen it on the Slashdot front page before, too. Still, the only way I know of finding this deal is by typing http://www.dell.com/linux in to the address bar by hand. I just found a tiny link on the side under the heading "Have You Considered?" when you view the Precision workstation line, but nothing on the Dimension product line page. It would be nice if Dell made it a little more pronounced that there really are options out there besides Windows.
And nobody here runs Linux.
damn, you got a web browser on your TI57? My TI-82 only plays Snake and Drug Wars...can I get that web browser from you?
They probably should've written a story about how they fixed their memory problems and with Rev. 2 of the 965p-DS3, higher FSB's can be reached. But I guess that's not news to some people.
I haven't used the latest versions but the one I used, 5.5, was lightyears behind Final Cut Pro.
are you serious? Hmm, let's see what other outrageous comparisons we can make...
Windows 95 is light years behind Mac OS X 10.4.
Mac OS 9 is light years behind Windows Vista.
Premiere Pro is at v. 2.0 right now, and v 1.0 was released in 2003. I did a quick search and can't find a specific launch date for Premiere 5.5, but I'll estimate it was in 1999. Even if you've never used Premiere before, I think you could conclude that they've made significant changes in 7+ years and several point releases. I have been using Premiere since version 6.5, and I can say that it is a very good blend of ease of use and advanced features. I can also say that when Adobe changed over to "Premiere Pro" they made it a lot more pleasant to use.
"AutoCAD is by far the industry standard CAD tool for engineering drawings. When I was an engineering student it was on every computer in the college of engineering."
I couldn't wait to comment on this, too. Autocad is used in architecture. Any engineering discipline that deals with architecture will use it, but I would hardly call it the "standard CAD tool for engineering." At my school, we all learned Pro/E and not one of the computers in the engineering school had Autocad on it. Sure, Autocad tried to get in to doing 3d stuff, too, but I have never heard of anyone doing mechanical design in Autocad. I don't think anyone would argue that Autocad is not the standard app for archtecture (sorry Microstation).
when i saw the slashdot front page, i thought "i read that over a month ago". Then I realized they were linking to hardocp and not anandtech. Glad some one else caught this too.
I propose Liberty String-in-a-Can, as a throw-back to the term "Liberty Cabbage" and others used during WWI.
i am also confused. I actually read through the lady's paper because I thought it might give an example of one or more false-memories, but of course it didn't. Where the false memories similar to the the subject saying the camera was blue when it was orange? Or remembering the flash being on the left instead of it really being on the right? Or something more technical like remembering the camera had a Pentium 4 processor when it didn't really? Can some one please give me an example?
In the second test, it says that one group was told to use their imagination when taking the "test" while another group was told to not use their imagination. It then said that the group told to use their imagination ended up with more false memories. Is this not stikingly obvious? If you tell some one to make something up, is it really noteworthy that they in fact did make something up?
I took some psych, cognitive learning, and sociology classes in college, and my biggest beef with all of them is that they take every day, obvious things and apply scientific names to them so they sound important.
Maybe it's just me, but I fail to see how this is signifant or how it applies to anything other than marketing.
if it wasn't MS, most likely it would have been some one else. So, we'd still be in the same place today, but complaining about some other company being rich, successful, greedy, and evil.
The answer we were looking for was: Very carefully.
I award you no points.
I'm amazed (well, not really) that I've read through so many posts all bashing MS for needing to "trick" people in to buying their new product. Then I remembered this is Slashdot, and this is an article on MS so I settled down a little bit. But, this is not simply a MS problem, this is a problem with every company that produces a product that needs to be sold. Products do not always sell themselves. This is why some people make a living as a "Salesman" or "Saleswoman". Brace yourself for a car analogy: New cars come out every year, yet people still drive around in their beat up old 1980 Chevy pickup that would be worth more money as scrap metal. Even when it refuses to start or leaves them stranded on the side of the road, they will spend hours fixing it instead of buying a new truck. To them, it is "good enough". So, card companies routinely come up with new ways to try and show how their truck is not "good enough" anymore and they really need to buy the brand new truck with navigation and upgraded audio. It is much easier to see how the brand new tuck really is "better", but that old truck is still "good enough" for many people. And in reality, you can carry this analogy over to any industry that needs to sell a product.
So, continue with the MS bashing, but please realize this is not a localized problem.
i bet netbsd already has their sites on it.
Humans are very superficial. As the saying goes, first impressions are everything. You need the looks to grab everyone's attention, then you need substance to keep it.