I didn't decide. The community decided, and if you don't even know the answer to that question you haven't a clue what wikipedia is and you really shouldn't be making such claims about it. The wiki format is good for documenting neologisms. This format is not exclusive to wikipedia and there are many sites that exist for the sole purpose of creating niche wikis which you can have total and complete control over if you so wish.
Assuming you're not just some random troll, which if you're not, you're doing a poor job of looking like anything else, you might do well to read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not The See Also section and template at the bottom contains all kinds of texts on what is appropriate for wikipedia and what isn't appropriate.
The threshold for inclusions is similar to other topics. A demonstration needs to be made using reliable sources that the neologism is a notable term in use.
urban dictionary? google? set up your own site if you think people need to know what the word is? It is a big internet. Not everything needs to be on wikipedia. That isn't its purpose.
Not really. This kind of stuff is categorized on wikipedia making it pretty easy to find related articles, especially for well known topics like castles or diseases. If it was a mass amount of articles use something like mechanical turk (from amazon) to cheaply and quickly whittle it down.
Maybe a group of Nigerian programmers could finally finish Duke Nukem Forever . . . if they get a small fee in advance to cover some start up costs . . . ?
I represent CEO John Mundabi. Our software firm was just taken over by rebels. We had were preparing the gold master of Duke Nukem Forever to be shipped only moments before half of our team was brutally slaughtered. The rebels are holding our building and assets hostage, however for a small fee of just $5000 (five thousand) US dollars, they've agreed to allow us access to some of the equipment for a short period of time. If we secure access to this disc we would be able to release it. We expect revenues in excess of $40,000,000 (forty million) and would be willing to offer you $2,000,000 (two million) for your help. I think the color of one's skin and the distance do not matter, we can all help one another. with god Celia Rundabar
When Kdawson isn't posting stuff he stands behind people and throws stuff at them until they mess up. Everything that is wrong with slashdot can be traced back to him.
You can't really talk about MMORPGs without talking about Everquest. World of Warcraft probably wouldn't exist without it. They're still making expansion packs for it for the 3 people who still play it.
there can't be anyone around slashdot that doesn't know you're a clueless sensationalist and yet they still let you pick stories. pot kettle and all that..
What a shock this comes from Kdawson. I'm about one more kdawson article away from dumping slashdot. I can't imagine that all the people in the slashdot batcave aren't laughing at this tool. I sometimes wonder if he just goes out and gets completely hammered at lunch then comes back and picks a few articles.
Some people would count them as MMOs. I know the mmorpg site used to count some of those referral link games (you know the ones that people always had to disguise to get you to click? upon clicking it you'd be eaten by a zombie) as MMOs and even gave them a subforum.
the summary is misleading as usual. There comes a point where you have to wonder what sort of clowns are actually moderating this site. the fine print clearly states that its 22% of guys, 21% of girls, but only 8 years and above and only of those with access to the internet.
According to: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats14.htm only about 71% of americans have access to the internet. Assuming it was equal across genders, you're actually only looking at about 14-15%. Nowhere near a quarter.
It is bad enough half the stories that show up here were on digg yesterday or the day before, even 3 or 4 days ago, but the utterly clueless moderation (for which kdawson could do a PSA, I'm really surprised this isn't one of his stories) is really beginning to push it over the edge.
Which is exactly why the Globe and Mail is out to lunch. Just before I left Canada that was all I could get on Telus. They had 6/2 but even though I was in the heart of downtown their "extreme" package was never available in my area. I could have switched to shaw for 25/1 but it was more. for the equivalent of $27 here in South Korea I get 100/10 and no cap. Canada is far behind, especially on upload. Its very difficult to find a package that has any significant kind of upload speed unless you go to a business one.
As a couple people have pointed out, it is very difficult in some cases to get anything done. I've run into plenty of articles where some people will guard them religiously and even if there are issues on the page, any maintenance tag is immediately reverted, people are insulted, and even if 10 people showed up to claim the maintenance tag was necessary they'd fight tooth and nail until blocked, and unblocked only to continue.
These people were viewed as "good" editors. Which meant dealing with them pointless. Dispute resolution is a broken process. You take something to AN/I, they insist on an RfC. Which is a known waste of time. Why? Well, they know if things get lost in RfC land there isn't a hope that their buddy will get in trouble.
All dispute resolution is is an attempt to tire the complaining side out so that no one actually has to solve the problem.
The amount of admins around there who will absolutely coddle someone to death is ludicrous. They would rather chase someone away from the project than have a "good" editor have to come clean for their behaviour.
It can take years to finally get problem users outed, and then have them turn around and sneak back in when no one is looking.. There are several users there who are basically standing on the bodies of users they've chased away from the project.
That is kind of the point of wikipedia. While there are plenty of unsourced stubs out there, any article of substance is more than likely to have sources. You can go verify what is written there at other sources. Wikipedia is little more than an aggregate that people have tried to mold into something readable.
Actually the policies themselves say that blogs and other self-published sources are never good enough unless they happen to be written by the subject of the article. Even then, they're not used for notability, but they can be used as reliable sources. The only time self-published sources can be used for anything not about the subject is in the case when its written by a recognized expert in the field. Even then, its reliable, but its usefulness in establishing notability is questionable. The threshold for inclusion for the vast majority of subjects is pretty simple: Find yourself 1 (preferably two) articles by reliable sources that are independent of the subject, that give the subject significant coverage and aren't simply trivial mentions. Which includes things like a 2 sentence entry in a top X list, or trivial name drops like "This product is a lot like products X, Y, and Z but we find it to be much better" (and there is no further mention of X, Y, or Z in it). That's it. This requirement satisfies two things: 1) Notability 2) giving you some information to at least form a basis of an objective article. If all you are doing is writing it based off their website or including things written on random blogs you have serious neutrality issues and really can't write a useful article based off of those things and keep it encyclopedic.
not really. Most lives things are actually shown on a tape delay. CC already exists for the news. but usually live programming is less concerned with exact timing and its often a constant stream of words, like with the news. I'm talking more about subbing a 2 hours movie and spending time making sure the captions line up perfectly with the dialog. It can be a tedious process. With a live program you just need someone who can type fast and accurately with a slight tape delay to check for any crazy mistakes.
Proper subtitling needs humans, but come on, be honest. How much manpower does it actually require to subtitle something? If its your native language its a matter of timing. Little else. If you're paying someone to be on the clock depending on the length of the program it might take anywhere from 30 minutes to a day for a long program. How much is a day's wages for even the lowest of budget infomercials?
if you're translating, you're probably not translating something new, and that means there are likely already native subs for it. So its simple a matter of translation, not timing. I've seen subbers here in korea fan-sub a 30 minute sitcom fresh off the air, in just a few hours without even public access to english subtitles first.
and then some company will come along and sue them for not being competitive because they have access to all this great data to make fantastic products other companies can't make.
it doesn't matter. I just checked out a couple of high quality videos with a normal person speaking english without background noise..it was a jumbled mess of garbage. Another fine google production.
oh wait.. just found one. What a train wreck. cheers google on yet another amazing product. Here is what is actually said: Hey Everyone So a lot of you may know that the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics are coming up
and here is the transcribed audio: Everyone felt like a man of the I think every time he's had a winter olympics are coming
Just fantastic..wow.. This is certainly front page worthy. I'm going to roll out a different product. Basically the system will try to guess (not very accurately) how many words are said and then just pick a random word out of the dictionary. I would guess that averaged out it might provide something more readable than this.
This is on par with their "beta" CC translation service which used google's fantastic web translation skills to translate english into horribly butchered and unreadable asian languages (translation into korean is confirmed as a complete waste of time)
Even more fantastic they allow you to then translate these autogenerated pieces of roadkill..wow.. who could this possibly be useful for?
there are a few issues here that I'd like to point out (one raised by another poster) 1. why would a Russian student being going to North Korea for higher education? 2. Why would they be letting him just carry that stuff out? 3. Why is he apparently free to just wander around, take pictures, and carry things out and write about them? North Korea controls people way too much
Now, onto the OS. one thing I noticed right off is that the browser is called "my country" . Certainly means my country, but Koreans wouldn't say that, especially not the ones in the north. They'd say " ". Our Country, my country conveys a sense of individualism I can't imagine them putting in an operating system.
computer is spelled which differs from the spelling in South Korea . Possibly legit, but North Korea takes a harsh stance on foreign words creeping into their vocabulary. Much like the french with their language thugs. Konglish use is small in North Korea and its caused issues for North Korean defectors trying to integrated into South Korean society. I'm noticing several instances of Konglish in those screenshots, and it seems excessive.
One article points out the lack of propaganda. Seems odd. Why is this guy checking it out in the embassy? He couldn't have installed it on whatever machine had outside the embassy and taken some screenshots? If they let him carry CDs into the embassy he should be able to put screenshots on something of the in country BBS and share those.
I'm noticing the lack of a download. If this guy has a copy, why is he holding on to it? Put it out there.
This looks like an extremely small customization job, and other than a couple icons, I can't really see what makes this "red start" or some kind of north korean OS.
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I didn't decide. The community decided, and if you don't even know the answer to that question you haven't a clue what wikipedia is and you really shouldn't be making such claims about it. The wiki format is good for documenting neologisms. This format is not exclusive to wikipedia and there are many sites that exist for the sole purpose of creating niche wikis which you can have total and complete control over if you so wish.
Assuming you're not just some random troll, which if you're not, you're doing a poor job of looking like anything else, you might do well to read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not
The See Also section and template at the bottom contains all kinds of texts on what is appropriate for wikipedia and what isn't appropriate.
Specifically on Neologisms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Avoid_neologisms#Articles_on_neologisms
The threshold for inclusions is similar to other topics. A demonstration needs to be made using reliable sources that the neologism is a notable term in use.
The great thing about wikipedia is if you don't like it you're free to fork it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mirrors_and_forks
urban dictionary?
google?
set up your own site if you think people need to know what the word is?
It is a big internet. Not everything needs to be on wikipedia. That isn't its purpose.
Not really. This kind of stuff is categorized on wikipedia making it pretty easy to find related articles, especially for well known topics like castles or diseases. If it was a mass amount of articles use something like mechanical turk (from amazon) to cheaply and quickly whittle it down.
I represent CEO John Mundabi. Our software firm was just taken over by rebels. We had were preparing the gold master of Duke Nukem Forever to be shipped only moments before half of our team was brutally slaughtered. The rebels are holding our building and assets hostage, however for a small fee of just $5000 (five thousand) US dollars, they've agreed to allow us access to some of the equipment for a short period of time. If we secure access to this disc we would be able to release it. We expect revenues in excess of $40,000,000 (forty million) and would be willing to offer you $2,000,000 (two million) for your help. I think the color of one's skin and the distance do not matter, we can all help one another.
with god
Celia Rundabar
When Kdawson isn't posting stuff he stands behind people and throws stuff at them until they mess up. Everything that is wrong with slashdot can be traced back to him.
Sure, I'll sit in front of your machine and stop you from playing it until you pay me $4000.
You can't really talk about MMORPGs without talking about Everquest.
World of Warcraft probably wouldn't exist without it.
They're still making expansion packs for it for the 3 people who still play it.
apparently timothy is picking up kdawson's slack.
Part of the flexibility of a notepad is if I lose it or spill coffee on it, I'm out $1.
No, but you do have geeks who sit around forums and hunt for screen shots from obscure old 80s games to try and make each other guess them.
there can't be anyone around slashdot that doesn't know you're a clueless sensationalist and yet they still let you pick stories.
pot kettle and all that..
What a shock this comes from Kdawson. I'm about one more kdawson article away from dumping slashdot. I can't imagine that all the people in the slashdot batcave aren't laughing at this tool.
I sometimes wonder if he just goes out and gets completely hammered at lunch then comes back and picks a few articles.
Some people would count them as MMOs. I know the mmorpg site used to count some of those referral link games (you know the ones that people always had to disguise to get you to click? upon clicking it you'd be eaten by a zombie) as MMOs and even gave them a subforum.
the summary is misleading as usual. There comes a point where you have to wonder what sort of clowns are actually moderating this site.
the fine print clearly states that its 22% of guys, 21% of girls, but only 8 years and above and only of those with access to the internet.
According to: http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats14.htm only about 71% of americans have access to the internet. Assuming it was equal across genders, you're actually only looking at about 14-15%. Nowhere near a quarter.
It is bad enough half the stories that show up here were on digg yesterday or the day before, even 3 or 4 days ago, but the utterly clueless moderation (for which kdawson could do a PSA, I'm really surprised this isn't one of his stories) is really beginning to push it over the edge.
Which is exactly why the Globe and Mail is out to lunch.
Just before I left Canada that was all I could get on Telus. They had 6/2 but even though I was in the heart of downtown their "extreme" package was never available in my area.
I could have switched to shaw for 25/1 but it was more.
for the equivalent of $27 here in South Korea I get 100/10 and no cap.
Canada is far behind, especially on upload. Its very difficult to find a package that has any significant kind of upload speed unless you go to a business one.
As a couple people have pointed out, it is very difficult in some cases to get anything done. I've run into plenty of articles where some people will guard them religiously and even if there are issues on the page, any maintenance tag is immediately reverted, people are insulted, and even if 10 people showed up to claim the maintenance tag was necessary they'd fight tooth and nail until blocked, and unblocked only to continue.
These people were viewed as "good" editors. Which meant dealing with them pointless. Dispute resolution is a broken process. You take something to AN/I, they insist on an RfC. Which is a known waste of time. Why? Well, they know if things get lost in RfC land there isn't a hope that their buddy will get in trouble.
All dispute resolution is is an attempt to tire the complaining side out so that no one actually has to solve the problem.
The amount of admins around there who will absolutely coddle someone to death is ludicrous. They would rather chase someone away from the project than have a "good" editor have to come clean for their behaviour.
It can take years to finally get problem users outed, and then have them turn around and sneak back in when no one is looking..
There are several users there who are basically standing on the bodies of users they've chased away from the project.
That is kind of the point of wikipedia. While there are plenty of unsourced stubs out there, any article of substance is more than likely to have sources. You can go verify what is written there at other sources. Wikipedia is little more than an aggregate that people have tried to mold into something readable.
Actually the policies themselves say that blogs and other self-published sources are never good enough unless they happen to be written by the subject of the article. Even then, they're not used for notability, but they can be used as reliable sources. The only time self-published sources can be used for anything not about the subject is in the case when its written by a recognized expert in the field. Even then, its reliable, but its usefulness in establishing notability is questionable. The threshold for inclusion for the vast majority of subjects is pretty simple:
Find yourself 1 (preferably two) articles by reliable sources that are independent of the subject, that give the subject significant coverage and aren't simply trivial mentions. Which includes things like a 2 sentence entry in a top X list, or trivial name drops like "This product is a lot like products X, Y, and Z but we find it to be much better" (and there is no further mention of X, Y, or Z in it). That's it.
This requirement satisfies two things:
1) Notability
2) giving you some information to at least form a basis of an objective article. If all you are doing is writing it based off their website or including things written on random blogs you have serious neutrality issues and really can't write a useful article based off of those things and keep it encyclopedic.
not really. Most lives things are actually shown on a tape delay. CC already exists for the news. but usually live programming is less concerned with exact timing and its often a constant stream of words, like with the news. I'm talking more about subbing a 2 hours movie and spending time making sure the captions line up perfectly with the dialog. It can be a tedious process. With a live program you just need someone who can type fast and accurately with a slight tape delay to check for any crazy mistakes.
Proper subtitling needs humans, but come on, be honest. How much manpower does it actually require to subtitle something?
If its your native language its a matter of timing. Little else. If you're paying someone to be on the clock depending on the length of the program it might take anywhere from 30 minutes to a day for a long program. How much is a day's wages for even the lowest of budget infomercials?
if you're translating, you're probably not translating something new, and that means there are likely already native subs for it. So its simple a matter of translation, not timing. I've seen subbers here in korea fan-sub a 30 minute sitcom fresh off the air, in just a few hours without even public access to english subtitles first.
and then some company will come along and sue them for not being competitive because they have access to all this great data to make fantastic products other companies can't make.
it doesn't matter. I just checked out a couple of high quality videos with a normal person speaking english without background noise..it was a jumbled mess of garbage. Another fine google production.
oh wait.. just found one.
What a train wreck. cheers google on yet another amazing product.
Here is what is actually said:
Hey Everyone So a lot of you may know that the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics are coming up
and here is the transcribed audio:
Everyone felt like a man of the I think every time he's had a winter olympics are coming
Just fantastic..wow..
This is certainly front page worthy.
I'm going to roll out a different product.
Basically the system will try to guess (not very accurately) how many words are said and then just pick a random word out of the dictionary. I would guess that averaged out it might provide something more readable than this.
This is on par with their "beta" CC translation service which used google's fantastic web translation skills to translate english into horribly butchered and unreadable asian languages (translation into korean is confirmed as a complete waste of time)
Even more fantastic they allow you to then translate these autogenerated pieces of roadkill..wow.. who could this possibly be useful for?
The first 10 videos I've been to don't include it. Including suggested and front page vids.
Is this a metric most?
there are a few issues here that I'd like to point out (one raised by another poster)
1. why would a Russian student being going to North Korea for higher education?
2. Why would they be letting him just carry that stuff out?
3. Why is he apparently free to just wander around, take pictures, and carry things out and write about them? North Korea controls people way too much
Now, onto the OS.
one thing I noticed right off is that the browser is called "my country" . Certainly means my country, but Koreans wouldn't say that, especially not the ones in the north.
They'd say " ". Our Country, my country conveys a sense of individualism I can't imagine them putting in an operating system.
computer is spelled which differs from the spelling in South Korea . Possibly legit, but North Korea takes a harsh stance on foreign words creeping into their vocabulary. Much like the french with their language thugs. Konglish use is small in North Korea and its caused issues for North Korean defectors trying to integrated into South Korean society. I'm noticing several instances of Konglish in those screenshots, and it seems excessive.
One article points out the lack of propaganda. Seems odd.
Why is this guy checking it out in the embassy? He couldn't have installed it on whatever machine had outside the embassy and taken some screenshots? If they let him carry CDs into the embassy he should be able to put screenshots on something of the in country BBS and share those.
I'm noticing the lack of a download.
If this guy has a copy, why is he holding on to it? Put it out there.
This looks like an extremely small customization job, and other than a couple icons, I can't really see what makes this "red start" or some kind of north korean OS.
is anyone shocked this is coming from the not quite all there department of kdawson?