WHY would they need a marketing campaign to get you to use IE8 if they didn't have a larger population of NON-IE users, hm?
I would wager a guess and say that maintaining 8 year old legacy code is far less cost-effective than something new.
The end results might not be much better, but they way they write code has surely changed, and an old beast as IE6 probably an utter beast at this point.
And say what you want about the lack of reasonable implementations of CSS and whatnot, developing for IE8 is surely better than IE6. There are of course new quirks and oddities, but the base on which to build is much wider, and with MS having realized that "oh, hey, the world is going kinda web", being restricted by their own legacy code is a really really bad thing. So they push IE8 - they don't want to be held back by themselves. More and more sites are displaying IE6-warnings. So they push IE8 - they don't want their users to see that what they're using is crap. Yet other sites are BLOCKING IE6. So they push IE8 - see previous point, and add a couple of bold exclamation marks.
It's all about the bottom line. Less money for maintaining a dying piece of software, more users led to believe they're actually using something good (if they don't see messages about how bad it is on their favorite social networking site or whatnot, how do they know?).
But then again, I'm just pulling guesses out of my ass.
IE is going to have to work damn hard to get rid of that reputation amoungst developers
IE doesn't need to get rid of that reputation amongst developers. As long as a majority of the end-users uses IE (hell, one site I worked on recently had more IE6-users that all combined firefox-users), Microsoft doesn't have to care at all, because developers simply have to bend over and make sure it works.
If IE somehow got that reputation among the average joe, on the other hand, then things would probably change.
Morro will use the same scanning engine as Windows Live OneCare, Microsoft's first consumer-grade antivirus package
Microsoft's first consumer-grade antivirus package? Oooh, you must mean MSAV, released once, updated never. The most useless antivirus software in the history of antivirus software.
Those weren't unlocked by a key, were they? My memory of those days might be foggy, but I seem to recall that the shareware versions simply didn't contain the levels past "Episode 1", but instead had a bunch of nag screens. In order to get the full thing, you had to order it and get it physically delivered, or go buy it at the nearest retail outlet that had it. So no unlock-codes..
Now, if they can skip the fission stage, that changes things. Then you've got a nuke that can likely be made much smaller (both in size and yield) and much cleaner. Whether this is a good thing depends primarily on what it's used for.
Presumably lobbing them at the middle east, while dancing around singing "It's not a nuke, it's not a nuke, you can't do anything, wheeee!"
As a close-to-30 completely uneducated (effective high-school dropout) developer, stick in there and get your masters, easily. Like people have pointed out, when HR compares a masters with 2 years of work experience, the masters will win.
And if I were in your position, I'd wager that the economic funk we're in is a little less depressing in 2 years. If you're right, two years well spent. If it goes downhill, well, then you'd be pretty much fucked anyway (last in, first out).
Masters and whatnot stop being relevant after a couple of years (it's not like anyone even bothers to ask for my grades anymore, having worked for over 10 years whereof 8 "in the business"), but it'll give you a good head start when you're compared to people like me;)
Remember, people are buying COMPUTER most of them don't understand that there's an OS running on it, it's just a computer, much like a radio.
Do YOU know what OS/firmware your television/radio/refridgerator/telephone/dishwasher/washingMachine/etc are running? I didn't think so.
Big difference. "You" (as in your average person, and the more than average persons, in fact most people outside of the ones employed in a tight area around the manufacturer) cannot change the OS on your fridge/dishwasher/whattamajig, so it's a bit of a moot point.
If I can't change it, I couldn't care less about what it's running. That's not saying I would care if I could change it, but the unchangeability of it makes complete ignore that factor. There are some lights on my fridge indicating temperature, and buttons for me to change it, it all looks suspiciously analogue to me, so I can't even say that it runs AN os, it could all be hardwired. Which would make upgrades a bitch:p
If it takes two service packs to support something, how does that rhyme with "out of the box"? I can agree with "Microsoft Office supports ODF with two major patchsets". If it did it OOTB, it would have done so at release - as in, ohidon'tknow - out of the box.
Oooooohhhhh, that must be because I'm not part of the world, but of those minor landmasses outside of the borders of the U.S.A.
If I switch iTunes to the american store, I get "Movies", but I sure as hell can't buy anything, because that's not available in the spanish store. In fact, not even TV-series are available there. I can follow links to the other stores to (for example) the Dr Who-selection they have there, but I sure as hell can't buy anything.
And I bet you that if I _COULD_ buy it, it'd surely be dubbed in spanish, because the languages you speak are apparently defined by the credit cards you currently possess.
(And on the subject of itunes store, the app store is a joke. I can't even get _free_ applications from a store that's not spanish. Which is a shame, since I'm swedish and there are some interesting swedish things I would like, but I can't get them - regardless of them being free apps.)
"I know from my training and experience as both a cyber crime investigator and as a lay person acquainted with online chatting, emailing shopping, and other miscellaneous online activity, people who use computers and regularly go online to various websites, often must eftter information known as "user names", or log-in screen names, as well as passwords, in order to access certain things on their computers and on various online websites."
I, for one, welcome our new experienced cyber crime investigator overlords!
No complex database or HTTP hacking. You control EXACTLY what the URL is. You're always in control of where the visitor is redirected to.
Huh? Wha? 301's are magical beasts of ancient lore that i can't control? Last time i checked, a 301-response gave me full control to redirect from any url on the domains i control to anywhere else, so i control EXACTLY what the url is. And you can be damn sure I'm in control to where it points.
Your system is flawed, on the simple premise that it's just a different way of doing exactly what's already available, but ass-backwards.
A couple of years ago i sketched out something like this for a project at work. It was with a known cloud of clients though, so security could easily be beefed out with no concerns to "compatiblity" on the client side.
Basically, a big ol tracker running in position X. A number of headless clients connected to storage systems, spread across the world, potentially divided into a hierarchy based on connectivity. Each client uses a unique key-pair to communicate with the tracker (phase 1 of security, for a 3rd party it'd be a bitch to sniff, not even another client could sniff and make sense of any of the data related to the first client).
In client communications, a random (weaker) cipher is used, to obscure the data transfer slightly more.
So basically, heavily encrypted tracker communication, weaker encrypted client communication. All client->client communication apart from the actual data channel also went via the tracker in question, so the only client->client happenings would be a port opening on client A and a connection request from client B, handshake and then the data transfer.
At the time of new files, a "Hello. Wake up now omgplz"-kind of request would be made available to the clients, starting with the innermost ones first (to facilitate a relatively speedy distribution of the files across the entire network, while attempting to not completely clog the intarweb tube of the "master client"), and when deemed appropriate (x% completion among y% of tier-z clients), move on to tier-(z+1).
This, of course, won't scale to something the size of pirate bay without some serious hardware from the future, but i find it an interesting sidetracking:p
Doom didn't have reloading, now did it? I recall Doom 2's double barreled shotgun having some "chug two more cartridges in there"-animation, but apart from that there was nothing keeping you from holding down the fire button and spewing sprites until your ammo counter read 000, was there?
Oh how I want to mod you +5 ForTheWin.
But that might be because I share the same predicament. I can't buy, I can't catch it on TV.
I suppose the only way to catch show X is to buy a satellite receiver and subscribe the the channel show X is on, which is what they want me/you/everyone to do. Apparently they haven't realized that the time when people paid for 24h/day programming when they want 1h/week is over.
Either they give me the ability to see the show I want, in the Late Night/South Park/Colbert Report way, or they give me the ability to buy and download the episodes after (or at) air-time - no matter where I'm located, or I'm going to pirate the hell out of their stuff and they'll never see a dime in either sales or ad-spots coming from me.
Time to freshen up on Big Bang Theory. It's not here in spain, and if it by some miracle happened to be, it would surely be dubbed into incomprehensible jibberish.
I was waiting for that. Yes since about Etch I've decided that's OK to put a minimal X on a server. I finally decided that a graphical browser for googling solutions and multiple xterms are better then lynx and virtual terminals.
If you can google from the machine, you can SSH to the machine, so no 80x25 terminal there:p Servers shall display "$SERVER login: _" and nothing more;)
If the whole world believes that you can jump off a cliff without harm does that make it true?
Yes, if all evidence found and all experiments, theoretical and practical, points to - yes, you CAN jump off a cliff without harm. The instant someone jumps off a cliff and dies, a thousand people will go back to their desks, do the math again and figure out where the calculations went wrong.
That's, in an abstract nutshell, how science works. Theory -> Counter-Evidence -> Revision -> Back to #1. As opposed to religion, which is Theory.
Dynamic vs Rigid. Proven vs Unprovable. Debated vs No-ears-but-a-big-mouth.
The only Jesus to ever produce fish and bread was the one in South Park, and in the words of Stan: "That's lame".
Slashdot Mirror
Indeed. Didn't catch that one before pressing submit ;p
WHY would they need a marketing campaign to get you to use IE8 if they didn't have a larger population of NON-IE users, hm?
I would wager a guess and say that maintaining 8 year old legacy code is far less cost-effective than something new.
The end results might not be much better, but they way they write code has surely changed, and an old beast as IE6 probably an utter beast at this point.
And say what you want about the lack of reasonable implementations of CSS and whatnot, developing for IE8 is surely better than IE6. There are of course new quirks and oddities, but the base on which to build is much wider, and with MS having realized that "oh, hey, the world is going kinda web", being restricted by their own legacy code is a really really bad thing. So they push IE8 - they don't want to be held back by themselves.
More and more sites are displaying IE6-warnings. So they push IE8 - they don't want their users to see that what they're using is crap.
Yet other sites are BLOCKING IE6. So they push IE8 - see previous point, and add a couple of bold exclamation marks.
It's all about the bottom line. Less money for maintaining a dying piece of software, more users led to believe they're actually using something good (if they don't see messages about how bad it is on their favorite social networking site or whatnot, how do they know?).
But then again, I'm just pulling guesses out of my ass.
IE is going to have to work damn hard to get rid of that reputation amoungst developers
IE doesn't need to get rid of that reputation amongst developers. As long as a majority of the end-users uses IE (hell, one site I worked on recently had more IE6-users that all combined firefox-users), Microsoft doesn't have to care at all, because developers simply have to bend over and make sure it works.
If IE somehow got that reputation among the average joe, on the other hand, then things would probably change.
Morro will use the same scanning engine as Windows Live OneCare, Microsoft's first consumer-grade antivirus package
Microsoft's first consumer-grade antivirus package? Oooh, you must mean MSAV, released once, updated never. The most useless antivirus software in the history of antivirus software.
Those weren't unlocked by a key, were they?
My memory of those days might be foggy, but I seem to recall that the shareware versions simply didn't contain the levels past "Episode 1", but instead had a bunch of nag screens. In order to get the full thing, you had to order it and get it physically delivered, or go buy it at the nearest retail outlet that had it. So no unlock-codes..
Now, if they can skip the fission stage, that changes things. Then you've got a nuke that can likely be made much smaller (both in size and yield) and much cleaner. Whether this is a good thing depends primarily on what it's used for.
Presumably lobbing them at the middle east, while dancing around singing "It's not a nuke, it's not a nuke, you can't do anything, wheeee!"
As a close-to-30 completely uneducated (effective high-school dropout) developer, stick in there and get your masters, easily.
Like people have pointed out, when HR compares a masters with 2 years of work experience, the masters will win.
And if I were in your position, I'd wager that the economic funk we're in is a little less depressing in 2 years. If you're right, two years well spent. If it goes downhill, well, then you'd be pretty much fucked anyway (last in, first out).
Masters and whatnot stop being relevant after a couple of years (it's not like anyone even bothers to ask for my grades anymore, having worked for over 10 years whereof 8 "in the business"), but it'll give you a good head start when you're compared to people like me ;)
Remember, people are buying COMPUTER most of them don't understand that there's an OS running on it, it's just a computer, much like a radio.
Do YOU know what OS/firmware your television/radio/refridgerator/telephone/dishwasher/washingMachine/etc are running? I didn't think so.
Big difference. "You" (as in your average person, and the more than average persons, in fact most people outside of the ones employed in a tight area around the manufacturer) cannot change the OS on your fridge/dishwasher/whattamajig, so it's a bit of a moot point.
If I can't change it, I couldn't care less about what it's running. That's not saying I would care if I could change it, but the unchangeability of it makes complete ignore that factor. There are some lights on my fridge indicating temperature, and buttons for me to change it, it all looks suspiciously analogue to me, so I can't even say that it runs AN os, it could all be hardwired. Which would make upgrades a bitch :p
If it takes two service packs to support something, how does that rhyme with "out of the box"?
I can agree with "Microsoft Office supports ODF with two major patchsets". If it did it OOTB, it would have done so at release - as in, ohidon'tknow - out of the box.
"Now, the word 'unblowupable' is thrown around a lot these days...."
Can't we just create a uuid at birth?
"[..] can reasonably be considered unique among all UUIDs created [...]"
Problem solved. Btw, i'm "534d16af-0e7f-4847-bd96-0b64d73fd8f3", pleased to make your acquaintance.
I have no "Movies" in my iTunes.
Oooooohhhhh, that must be because I'm not part of the world, but of those minor landmasses outside of the borders of the U.S.A.
If I switch iTunes to the american store, I get "Movies", but I sure as hell can't buy anything, because that's not available in the spanish store.
In fact, not even TV-series are available there. I can follow links to the other stores to (for example) the Dr Who-selection they have there, but I sure as hell can't buy anything.
And I bet you that if I _COULD_ buy it, it'd surely be dubbed in spanish, because the languages you speak are apparently defined by the credit cards you currently possess.
(And on the subject of itunes store, the app store is a joke. I can't even get _free_ applications from a store that's not spanish. Which is a shame, since I'm swedish and there are some interesting swedish things I would like, but I can't get them - regardless of them being free apps.)
"I know from my training and experience as both a cyber crime investigator and as a lay person acquainted with online chatting, emailing shopping, and other miscellaneous online activity, people who use computers and regularly go online to various websites, often must eftter information known as "user names", or log-in screen names, as well as passwords, in order to access certain things on their computers and on various online websites."
I, for one, welcome our new experienced cyber crime investigator overlords!
Oh lookie, "sex change".
I fully blame this (freudian?) slip on the wallclock, indicating a time before 10am.
After all, barbershops and even paid-for sex changes have come about due to player demand in World of Warcraft.
Uhm. Paying for sex in WoW?
Exactly how deeply entrenched in your parents basement would you have to be to do that?
No complex database or HTTP hacking. You control EXACTLY what the URL is. You're always in control of where the visitor is redirected to.
Huh? Wha? 301's are magical beasts of ancient lore that i can't control? Last time i checked, a 301-response gave me full control to redirect from any url on the domains i control to anywhere else, so i control EXACTLY what the url is. And you can be damn sure I'm in control to where it points.
Your system is flawed, on the simple premise that it's just a different way of doing exactly what's already available, but ass-backwards.
A couple of years ago i sketched out something like this for a project at work.
It was with a known cloud of clients though, so security could easily be beefed out with no concerns to "compatiblity" on the client side.
Basically, a big ol tracker running in position X.
A number of headless clients connected to storage systems, spread across the world, potentially divided into a hierarchy based on connectivity.
Each client uses a unique key-pair to communicate with the tracker (phase 1 of security, for a 3rd party it'd be a bitch to sniff, not even another client could sniff and make sense of any of the data related to the first client).
In client communications, a random (weaker) cipher is used, to obscure the data transfer slightly more.
So basically, heavily encrypted tracker communication, weaker encrypted client communication.
All client->client communication apart from the actual data channel also went via the tracker in question, so the only client->client happenings would be a port opening on client A and a connection request from client B, handshake and then the data transfer.
At the time of new files, a "Hello. Wake up now omgplz"-kind of request would be made available to the clients, starting with the innermost ones first (to facilitate a relatively speedy distribution of the files across the entire network, while attempting to not completely clog the intarweb tube of the "master client"), and when deemed appropriate (x% completion among y% of tier-z clients), move on to tier-(z+1).
This, of course, won't scale to something the size of pirate bay without some serious hardware from the future, but i find it an interesting sidetracking :p
Doom didn't have reloading, now did it?
I recall Doom 2's double barreled shotgun having some "chug two more cartridges in there"-animation, but apart from that there was nothing keeping you from holding down the fire button and spewing sprites until your ammo counter read 000, was there?
I'm going to counter that with (-1 Fact Nazi), and rate you (-1 Overly Eloquent).
/. comments need the google mail 5-second rule.
Always annoying when writing a big post and forgetting to select "Plain Old Text". Bleh. Incomprehensible mess is the end-result.
Oh how I want to mod you +5 ForTheWin. But that might be because I share the same predicament. I can't buy, I can't catch it on TV. I suppose the only way to catch show X is to buy a satellite receiver and subscribe the the channel show X is on, which is what they want me/you/everyone to do. Apparently they haven't realized that the time when people paid for 24h/day programming when they want 1h/week is over. Either they give me the ability to see the show I want, in the Late Night/South Park/Colbert Report way, or they give me the ability to buy and download the episodes after (or at) air-time - no matter where I'm located, or I'm going to pirate the hell out of their stuff and they'll never see a dime in either sales or ad-spots coming from me. Time to freshen up on Big Bang Theory. It's not here in spain, and if it by some miracle happened to be, it would surely be dubbed into incomprehensible jibberish.
I was waiting for that. Yes since about Etch I've decided that's OK to put a minimal X on a server. I finally decided that a graphical browser for googling solutions and multiple xterms are better then lynx and virtual terminals.
If you can google from the machine, you can SSH to the machine, so no 80x25 terminal there :p ;)
Servers shall display "$SERVER login: _" and nothing more
Depending on which definition of "proven" you are using, it might be more correct to refer to scientific theory as "undisproven" rather than "proven."
True true, that's what I was _thinking_ ;)
If the whole world believes that you can jump off a cliff without harm does that make it true?
Yes, if all evidence found and all experiments, theoretical and practical, points to - yes, you CAN jump off a cliff without harm.
The instant someone jumps off a cliff and dies, a thousand people will go back to their desks, do the math again and figure out where the calculations went wrong.
That's, in an abstract nutshell, how science works. Theory -> Counter-Evidence -> Revision -> Back to #1.
As opposed to religion, which is Theory.
Dynamic vs Rigid. Proven vs Unprovable. Debated vs No-ears-but-a-big-mouth.
The only Jesus to ever produce fish and bread was the one in South Park, and in the words of Stan: "That's lame".
People still use Norton? Why on earth would anyone do that?