The question I always had about this- if they can take one sample from one animal and clone it in a vat and feed this world, will the vegans be ok with that?
Just like people who comment on slashdot, vegans have a wider variety of opinions & reasons to arrive at their dietary choice. Trying to ask them collectively what they think about something like this is useless.
It would be like asking the slashdot crowd "would you buy Microsoft products if they open sourced them"
For those who prefer car analogies, it would be like asking
One of the funniest things in life is watching believers get all bent out of shape when you laugh at them. Creationists, Scientologits, Vegan proselytizers, the Global Warming crowd, the 9/11 troofers, many kinds of new-age woo-woos, radical feminists, anti-feminists, and the list goes on and on.
You forgot to include mac fanbois on your list - they get bent out of shape when mocked more than even Creationists do.
The link from the summary still contains the "?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin" bit, but even if you are not signed in you can access the article just as easily as on the website of the IHT
Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power.
Yes, peta watts (10 ^ 15) for less than a femto (10 ^ -15) second)
A mere blip compared to other power uses. I don't think this research is particularly relevant to climate change, the OP was trying to start a flamewar.
How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear? Hahahaha.
Probably natural gas. And carbon-neutral is a better way to describe nuclear than clean.
let me guess, someone will point out how this is making global warming worse,
Let me guess. Someone with no understanding of the mechanisms of climate change or Lasers will jump into this discussion with a piece of irrelevant flamebait.
we need to hug some tree's to offset the carbon.
Guess what? Lasers produce heat, not carbon. (you fucking idiot).
That's the cheapest, fastest internet connection in the world.
No. It's not the fastet, because it doesn't exist.
To add some perspective, in the states Verizon FiOS currently offers up to 30 Mbps downloads and 5 Mbps uploads starting at $42.99 a month.
Yes, they do. Right now. Who knows what Verizon will be offering when (if) these guys get this network going. Awesome. The US still has better internet access than much of the third world.
The concept is that politically powerful people who live in NYC could be induced to start taking action on the issue of IP because of this tempest in a teapot.
NYC's own politicians are probably too busy with shit to care about another minor issue from some legal challenge.
What is it? New York isn't interested in the issue, or they're interested in it enough to start taking action on IP reform.
There's no one better suited to start rolling back absurd property rights than a city full of pissed off politicians.
New York city politicians cannot do anything about federal trademark laws. In light of that, who do you think should win?
I hope Apple NYC ups the ante, files their own complaint & get's Apple's trademark rescinded. Might* teach them to not be so trigger happy with the legal threats.
Obviously, Apple did not "invent" dashboard. To say that Konfabulator was something new is both literally wrong
I didn't say Konfabulator was new - I said it predated Dashboard. I was using it as an (incorrect) example of where Apple uses ideas from OSS. (incorrect because Konfabulator is not OSS).
I never said "Linux" doesn't copy from OS X. I said Linux on the desktop distributions have not only failed to successfully copy OS X, but in many cases seem to intentionally avoid including such features.
What you said in your first post:
What I find interesting is that major Linux developers don't copy those features from OS X. I have several theories as to why this is.
And then you have the gall to accuse me of fictionalizing.
Christ, I can't believe I'm having the same conversation with two different fanbois. Please read the thread before replying again - all of your questions have been answered already. Anyway:
More to the point, saying "I didn't say ripoff, I said predated" is hilariously inept bullshitting
Have you read the thread you're replying to? I was saying that Apple doesn't always invent - sometimes the ideas come from elsewhere. I don't believe any O/S vendors 'rip-off' each other.
Try to look at it impartially, without knee-jerking about the author. Honestly, can you dispute anything he says?
Yes, yes I can. He thinks that that Dashboard / Desk accessories / Konfabulator are the same because they're all small apps. That's bollocks. Konfabulator's value was in using XML / scripting / rendering engine to make writing small, networked applications trivial. Desk Accessories did nothing of the kind.
Read this ars commentry on this issue & see if you can dispute what he says.
Including this gem:
The worst part of the misconception that Konfabulator and Dashboard are both obvious derivatives of Desk Accessories is that it adds nothing to the debate, regardless of its validity. The not-so-hidden agenda of the Desk Accessories connection is that "Apple did it first," therefore Dashboard did not copy Konfabulator, therefore Arlo and Perry have no reason to gripe. [emph mine].
This must mean that 2008 will be the year of Linux on the desktop!
Totally offtopic, please mod me down, but 2008 is the year of Linux on the desktop already!
Asus can't make enough eeePCs to meet demand, other retailers are coming out with cheap linux desktop products, Linux is finally being offered as an alternative by system builders.
I suggest two new tags - 'pwndbyowneula' or 'canthaveitbothways' (although the old faithful 'haha' adequately expresses the extent of my sympathy for MS).
Oh, and for those wondering, RS 700 crore == 175 Million USD. (a crore is 10 million).
Slashdot Mirror
Just like people who comment on slashdot, vegans have a wider variety of opinions & reasons to arrive at their dietary choice. Trying to ask them collectively what they think about something like this is useless.
It would be like asking the slashdot crowd "would you buy Microsoft products if they open sourced them"
For those who prefer car analogies, it would be like asking
It's anthropogenic climate change. Man-made, not man-like.
Perhaps climate change wants to be man made?
(seriously, thanks for the correction).
yes, the climate is beginning to look more human isn't it?
:-)
Dammit - I've just read too many 'information doesn't want to be anthromorphisized' sigs recently
On one side we've got a bunch of scientists - who's philosophy espouses striving for neutrality, lack of bias, objectivity, etc.
On the other side, we've got.... an ex-Nixon speechwiter/game show host.
*sighs* - I bet he's skeptical about anthropomorphic climate change too (there seems to be an extraordinarily high overlap between the two groups).
Oh, and he Godwins himself at 2:40 in the linked video. Discussion over.
One of the funniest things in life is watching believers get all bent out of shape when you laugh at them. Creationists, Scientologits, Vegan proselytizers, the Global Warming crowd, the 9/11 troofers, many kinds of new-age woo-woos, radical feminists, anti-feminists, and the list goes on and on.
You forgot to include mac fanbois on your list - they get bent out of shape when mocked more than even Creationists do.
The crazy Chinese have done it again
Neither article presents proof (or even speculation) as to the origins of the fakes.
So the power needed would be three to four orders higher
OMG! Three to four orders higher!!!!!!!
Shit, what? We're talking about... what? Hundreds of watts? Thousands?
THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!1!@
and don't get the accent quite right, then take it as an insult!
Has this actually happened to you?
Really? I clicked your link and it led to the article. I'm in the UK, but also at a university.
Interestingly enough, it works for me at my work too.
The link from the summary still contains the "?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin" bit, but even if you are not signed in you can access the article just as easily as on the website of the IHT
I tried: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/10/technology/10google.html, but got redirected to a login page. Perhaps you're a subscriber? or my country isn't allowed to login automatically & yours is?
(which, by the way, is fully owned by the NYT company)
I don't give a crap where the article's from as long as I can read it.
This is a better link because it's reg-free.
The wrinkly photo of Murdoch (complete with disembodied hand) is just icing on the cake.
I'm afraid Google uses the term beta correctly - they just have higher standards than Apple.
Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power.
Yes, peta watts (10 ^ 15) for less than a femto (10 ^ -15) second)
A mere blip compared to other power uses. I don't think this research is particularly relevant to climate change, the OP was trying to start a flamewar.
How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear? Hahahaha.
Probably natural gas. And carbon-neutral is a better way to describe nuclear than clean.
let me guess, someone will point out how this is making global warming worse,
Let me guess. Someone with no understanding of the mechanisms of climate change or Lasers will jump into this discussion with a piece of irrelevant flamebait.
we need to hug some tree's to offset the carbon.
Guess what? Lasers produce heat, not carbon. (you fucking idiot).
This shore is a good idea! (speaking littorally of course)
That's the cheapest, fastest internet connection in the world.
No. It's not the fastet, because it doesn't exist.
To add some perspective, in the states Verizon FiOS currently offers up to 30 Mbps downloads and 5 Mbps uploads starting at $42.99 a month.
Yes, they do. Right now. Who knows what Verizon will be offering when (if) these guys get this network going. Awesome. The US still has better internet access than much of the third world.
That's a lot of big words.
Not really, no.
I don't need to defend my intelligence
ORLY? You do seem to keep attempting to tho' - in fact, I'm sure you'll reply to this post....
I'm not being nice; I think you're an asshole.
FWIW - I don't think you're an asshole.
You're just not particularly intelligent & besotted with a company that's almost certainly embarrassed by your fawning sycophancy.
First. Please read this.
The concept is that politically powerful people who live in NYC could be induced to start taking action on the issue of IP because of this tempest in a teapot.
NYC's own politicians are probably too busy with shit to care about another minor issue from some legal challenge.
What is it? New York isn't interested in the issue, or they're interested in it enough to start taking action on IP reform.
Try & think things through before posting.
There's no one better suited to start rolling back absurd property rights than a city full of pissed off politicians.
New York city politicians cannot do anything about federal trademark laws. In light of that, who do you think should win?
I hope Apple NYC ups the ante, files their own complaint & get's Apple's trademark rescinded. Might* teach them to not be so trigger happy with the legal threats.
* Let's face it - probably not.
Obviously, Apple did not "invent" dashboard.
We agree. Finally.
Obviously, Apple did not "invent" dashboard. To say that Konfabulator was something new is both literally wrong
I didn't say Konfabulator was new - I said it predated Dashboard. I was using it as an (incorrect) example of where Apple uses ideas from OSS. (incorrect because Konfabulator is not OSS).
More to the point, saying "I didn't say ripoff, I said predated" is hilariously inept bullshitting
Have you read the thread you're replying to? I was saying that Apple doesn't always invent - sometimes the ideas come from elsewhere. I don't believe any O/S vendors 'rip-off' each other.
Try to look at it impartially, without knee-jerking about the author. Honestly, can you dispute anything he says?
Yes, yes I can. He thinks that that Dashboard / Desk accessories / Konfabulator are the same because they're all small apps. That's bollocks. Konfabulator's value was in using XML / scripting / rendering engine to make writing small, networked applications trivial. Desk Accessories did nothing of the kind.
Read this ars commentry on this issue & see if you can dispute what he says.
Including this gem:
This must mean that 2008 will be the year of Linux on the desktop!
Totally offtopic, please mod me down, but 2008 is the year of Linux on the desktop already!
Asus can't make enough eeePCs to meet demand, other retailers are coming out with cheap linux desktop products, Linux is finally being offered as an alternative by system builders.
I suggest two new tags - 'pwndbyowneula' or 'canthaveitbothways' (although the old faithful 'haha' adequately expresses the extent of my sympathy for MS).
Oh, and for those wondering, RS 700 crore == 175 Million USD. (a crore is 10 million).