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The Texas Petawatt Laser

Roland Piquepaille notes the hype surrounding what the University of Texas at Austin is calling the world's most powerful laser. During a tenth of a femtosecond this laser is 2,000 times more powerful than all the power plants in the US, and is brighter than sunlight on the surface of the Sun. On his own blog Roland points out that UT's is not the first petawatt laser; that distinction belongs to a system installed at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in 1996.

174 comments

  1. We're all wondering... by dj_tla · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will this laser have to be attached to significantly more powerful sharks?

    1. Re:We're all wondering... by Icarium · · Score: 4, Funny

      Wouldn't firing this laser underwater make the water uncomfortably hot? Please people, think of the sharks!

    2. Re:We're all wondering... by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Wouldn't firing this laser anywhere causally connected with the known universe make earth's water uncomfortably hot? Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway? Do they just jack into all of the power plants in the US for 200 femtoseconds and then release it all in a tenth of a femtosecond? And how does it make sense to refer to the generating capacity of all the power plants the US in terms of energy? There are no times, femtosecond or not, involved, watts are rates of energy consumption.

    3. Re:We're all wondering... by walt-sjc · · Score: 3, Funny

      Bah - who needs sharks... They will just install them in military jets for when they need a LOT of popcorn...

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    4. Re:We're all wondering... by odourpreventer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway?

      In case this was a serious question: Giant capacitors, connected in parallel.

    5. Re:We're all wondering... by Tribbin · · Score: 4, Funny
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    6. Re:We're all wondering... by yoavi · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is not accurate. Watts are indeed rates of energy consumption, that is, the amount of energy consumed per unit time (Watt stands for Joule per second). Now, if we squeeze 100 Joules in into 10^-13 of a second, then the *instantaneous* power during those 100 femtoseconds (and yes, the story has got it wrong, it's a tenth of a picosecond, not femtosecond, which makes a hundred femtoseconds) is one petawatt. The average power, assuming we operate at 0.1Hz (which I think will be the laser's repetition rate) is only 10 Watts.

      This also answers the "heating" problem. These lasers carry a relatively small amount of energy, and produce very little heat. However, the electric field that is produced when the beam is focused is huge, and many interesting phenomena can be studied with such a laser.

      Btw, for the same reason, this type of laser is completely useless as a weapon. In order to cause any real damage one has to deposit energy into the substance that is to be damaged, and again, these laser pulses carry a relatively small amount of energy.

    7. Re:We're all wondering... by jiriw · · Score: 1

      Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway? Thats where batteries are for... probably a huge array. Or capacitors, or a spinning object storing a huge load of kinetic energy or any other form of energy storage. It's the same way as KEMA (an electronics testing and certification institute I live near) stores it's energy for huge lightning bolts and power overloads they use to test kilovolt transformers, massive power breakers and other high voltage equipment.
      They could store the energy for those 200 femtoseconds. Notice it's only 200 femtoseconds ... so if you load an array for 1 second with only 1*10^-10th of all the power all U.S. powerplants are producing in that timeframe you hold all the energy needed to fire the laser ... neglecting any transfer losses.
    8. Re:We're all wondering... by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      uh hello, sky/space sharks?

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    9. Re:We're all wondering... by The+Bender · · Score: 4, Informative

      Obviously the energy is built up over the period between pulses. And since the repetition rate is only 1 shot per HOUR, the average power output is only 0.1 W!

      That wouldn't even put a dent in my electricity bill.

      Yes I know, I know...

    10. Re:We're all wondering... by garett_spencley · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Btw, for the same reason, this type of laser is completely useless as a weapon."

      Thanks. Another slashdotter crushes another one of my hopes and dreams. Jerk :(

    11. Re:We're all wondering... by aurispector · · Score: 1

      Just remember - we have to start *somewhere*. Handheld blasters are just around the corner...

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    12. Re:We're all wondering... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Sharks! With friggin' GIANT CAPACITORS attached to their heads!

    13. Re:We're all wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was developed in support of securing the Texas border. If people break into our homes, we get to shoot'em; and now when people cross the border illegally, we get to zap'em.

    14. Re:We're all wondering... by s_p_oneil · · Score: 1

      10 Watts? So this thing is approximately twice as powerful as one of those 5W key-chain laser pointers? That's good to know. ;-)

    15. Re:We're all wondering... by Missing_dc · · Score: 2, Funny

      But what we really want to know is:

      Have they tried levitating a squirrel yet?

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    16. Re:We're all wondering... by interiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It looks like this. Pictures like that bring a tear to my eye. If you have even a small subset of those capacitors, you can do some seriously cool shit.

    17. Re:We're all wondering... by BigwayneO · · Score: 1

      you have no idea how hard i laughed at that link!!!!! ROFL

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    18. Re:We're all wondering... by Dancindan84 · · Score: 3, Funny

      But... sharks don't have hands.

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    19. Re:We're all wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer the chainsaw in that room. Not many projectiles so why waste your ammo?

    20. Re:We're all wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Do not touch capacitor with remaining good arm.

    21. Re:We're all wondering... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 1

      And how does it make sense to refer to the generating capacity of all the power plants the US in terms of energy? There are no times, femtosecond or not, involved, watts are rates of energy consumption.

      And by integrating that power over a femtosecond, calculus tells me the result is energy. ;)

      Over the duration of the 200 femtosecond pulse, it's perfectly reasonable to compare either the average power or total energy released to any other energy source, whether it be terrestrial power generation or the sun.

    22. Re:We're all wondering... by LordEd · · Score: 1

      In case this was a non-serious question, its likely powered by 10,000 hamsters on a running wheel.

    23. Re:We're all wondering... by DJStealth · · Score: 1

      You guys beat me to the post about sharks; but when I opened up the page after reading it in RSS, I had a little laugh at the fact that "Sharks" was one of the keyword 'meta-tags' underneath the summary: "power, science, laser, starwars, sharks (tagging beta)"

    24. Re:We're all wondering... by Perf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Where do they get the power to run this thing anyway?

      In case this was a serious question: Giant capacitors, connected in parallel.

      ... from a bazillion disposable cameras.
    25. Re:We're all wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great, now you're going to tell me that it doesn't make a cool "pew,pew,pew" when it fires.

    26. Re:We're all wondering... by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      Laser cats.

    27. Re:We're all wondering... by ultramk · · Score: 1

      Well if my arithmetic is right, this laser would have the same total energy output as a 100-watt laser with a 1-second pulse (or for that matter, a 10-watt laser with a 10-second pulse.)

      So yes, a lot of energy, but not a HUGE amount.

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    28. Re:We're all wondering... by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

      "Dude! Don't blast me dude! Dude! Ow Ow Ow!"

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    29. Re:We're all wondering... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No the necessity of using Nd glass amplifiers and the cooling requirements limits the rep rate to more like once every 30 minutes.

    30. Re:We're all wondering... by Biff+Stu · · Score: 1

      The parent comment is modded "funny," but it could equally be modded "informative." When an intense femtosecond pulse is focused into many materials, including water, nonlinear effects will lead to fillamentation and continuum generation. Here are some pictures from lasers with roughly an order of magnitude less power focussed in air.

    31. Re:We're all wondering... by Biff+Stu · · Score: 1

      The parent comment is modded "funny," but it could equally be modded "informative." When an intense femtosecond pulse is focused into many materials, including water, nonlinear effects will lead to fillamentation and continuum generation. Here are some pictures from lasers with roughly an order of magnitude less power focused in air.

      (I corrected a link. Please mod my previous comment down)
    32. Re:We're all wondering... by AP31R0N · · Score: 1

      It's not capacitors, but it is similar. Lasers have an "active medium" that stores light energy, some media can hold more of a charge than others. You can keep pumping in more and more energy and then release it in a pulse. They measure the beam by how much energy comes out during the pulse. Imagine making a shotgun shell, adding one gain of powder at a time. When you fire it, the energy all comes out at about the same time, creating tremendous power. That's a layman's explanation given to me by a laser engineer. i work for a company that makes lasers, my cube neighbor just explained to me how it works.

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  2. Pish. by AndGodSed · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am holding out for Laser Eye Implants.

    (Just don't go glaring at yourself in the mirror...)

    1. Re:Pish. by hashax · · Score: 1

      don't, its not good for geeks. if ever in your lifetime a girl likes you, you'll fry her with your intense gaze.

    2. Re:Pish. by symes · · Score: 1

      don't, its not good for geeks. if ever in your lifetime a girl likes you, you'll fry her with your intense gaze. lol! Now I definitely want laser implants - but not for the ability to light candles on romantic evenings with a bat of an eyelid. It's too late for that. I want to fry the mother-in-law!
    3. Re:Pish. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's all good, so long as you remember to shout "BEHOLD! OPTIC BLAST!" before doing it.

    4. Re:Pish. by EdIII · · Score: 1

      One less restraining order I have to deal with. Win-Win.

    5. Re:Pish. by Walruzoar · · Score: 1

      Well I'm holding out for a handheld laser pointer version, in green of course.
      Will if come with a heavy duty mains lead, or a BIG box of AA cells?

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    6. Re:Pish. by l1gunman · · Score: 3, Funny

      WARNING: Do not look directly into laser with remaining eye.

    7. Re:Pish. by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 1


      What do you know of fire? You prance around like you have laser eyes!
      </Oglethorpe>

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    8. Re:Pish. by tinkwink · · Score: 1

      If looks could kill

  3. Warning: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not attempt to block laser with remaining hand.

  4. Sorry boys by martin-boundary · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'll never work. There's just no peta tonne shark to put it on.

    1. Re:Sorry boys by EdIII · · Score: 1

      Dude, don't be such an ass. That's so uncool for the sharks.

      Ill-tempered Sea Bass are a lot more environmentally friendly... get with the times.

    2. Re:Sorry boys by Tribbin · · Score: 1

      No only that, but a swarm of thousands of fishes with these attached to their heads will turn the shark into canned tuna.

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=CeMpdiDZ1iI

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    3. Re:Sorry boys by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      That would be a Beowulf school then, I take it?

  5. link to project page by dermond · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:link to project page by The+Standard+Deviant · · Score: 0

      Shematics? Are those plans for making fembots?

  6. So what? by damburger · · Score: 0, Troll

    To be honest, its hard to get excited about this with the LHC coming online soon. I guess this is of interest to Americans though.

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    1. Re:So what? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Because a big freaking laser is interesting? Jeez, lay off the America-bashing for a while - it's unhealthy to fixate on such things. It's odd that the first thing that you thought of was how Americans suck and how Europeans are so great with their LHC. What do we call that, "projection"? This laser has got nothing to do with the LHC, which I am also excited to see.

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    2. Re:So what? by YeeHaW_Jelte · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "It's odd that the first thing that you thought of was how Americans suck and how Europeans are so great with their LHC."

      Those are your words, not his.

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    3. Re:So what? by damburger · · Score: 1

      I'm not bashing America, but this seems like a local story in science not a global one. By the end of this year we may have found the Higgs Boson, which is a big story.

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    4. Re:So what? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      It's a big laser beam. Of course it's news for nerds. If the LHC works, great, but that's just one story. Instead of moaning about how provincial it is, how about going to the site and reading the specs of that thing?

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    5. Re:So what? by kalirion · · Score: 3, Funny

      To be honest, its hard to get excited about this with the LHC coming online soon.

      True, what's the most this laser could do, cut the Earth in half? Pretty tame compared with the LHC recreating the Big Bang and destroying the universe as we know it.

    6. Re:So what? by N1ck0 · · Score: 1

      The interesting thing is the LHC is actually getting cooler as every day goes by.

    7. Re:So what? by wbaxter1 · · Score: 1

      I'm more excited at possible practical implications. LHC, may provides evidence to support theory. Petawatt laser, brighter than our sun, very little heat, possible uses in generating energy. Kind of hard not to get excited about the laser, even if it were built in europe.

    8. Re:So what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Nuclear Fusion Research (Fast Ignition ICF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_confinement_fusion)
      2. Energetic Particle Beams (neutrons, protons, ions, and electrons) are all capable of being produced with this laser
      3. Astrophysical phenomena like supernova remnants
      4. Do you need a reason to put the equivalent intensity of 10 m^2 of sunlight focused to 1 um^2 and blow the shit out of stuff?

  7. But... by Rix · · Score: 4, Funny

    Can it levitate a squirrel?

    1. Re:But... by EdIII · · Score: 1

      If you strapped on a laser propulsion getup onto his nutsack. That is not that far fetched either. Have you seen a squirrel's nuts?

      Of course that would not be "levitating" as much as it would be "rocketing off into space" at a fantastically high rate of speed.

      That would be fine with me as I have wrote plenty of blogs on the impending apocalypse where the squirrels will make us all their slaves. Everybody says I'm nuts... but you just wait...

    2. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you Mr. XKCD...

    3. Re:But... by Taint+Bearer · · Score: 0

      If by "levitate" you mean "turn into carbon dioxide and disperse according to Brownian Motion" then yes it can.

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    4. Re:But... by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Have you seen a squirrel's nuts? I dunno about you, but I'm not a biologist, so I don't go out of my way to look at other species' gonads, no.

      I have wrote plenty of blogs on the impending apocalypse where the squirrels will make us all their slaves. Wrong rodents. It's the mice that have made us all their slaves.

      I don't know about you, but I, for one, welcome our new laser-propelled rodent overlords.

    5. Re:But... by xubz · · Score: 1

      For those of you who didn't get that. "The Laser Elevator"

    6. Re:But... by Draek · · Score: 1

      Everybody says I'm nuts... but you just wait... Well, one imagines that if you *are* nuts, you have plenty to worry about from squirrels as it is, y'know, with the whole "nut-searching sense of smell", "specialized nut-chewing teeth" and all that stuff.
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    7. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. However if someone gives them a magnifying glass, they'll be able to annoy ants for tenth of a femtosecond at a time. That's gotta count for something! 8^)

  8. Time duration? by superash · · Score: 1, Funny

    During a tenth of a femtosecond this laser is ... brighter than sunlight on the surface of the Sun That is 10 to the power of -16 of a second. Such comparisons are ridiculous because even I can say my torch is brighter than the sunlight on the surface of the sun for 1 gazillionth of a second. :P

    1. Re:Time duration? by famebait · · Score: 3, Insightful

      even I can say my torch is brighter than the sunlight on the surface of the sun for 1 gazillionth of a second.

      You could say it, but it wouldn't be true.

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    2. Re:Time duration? by Turiko · · Score: 0, Troll

      any proof the laser's brightness is true? he was comparing :)

    3. Re:Time duration? by ettlz · · Score: 1

      And some of us would rather our torches didn't explode.

    4. Re:Time duration? by MLCT · · Score: 4, Informative

      They aren't ridiculous - and you are ill informed to say that they are. Average power vs. peak power. Those two variables are highly relevent for a pulsed laser. Your "torch" isn't even pulsed.

      A lot of ground breaking research is undertaken *utilising* the ability to deliver very short very high energy pulses - for doing that you can deliver a huge amount of energy in a very tiny amount of time - then observe what happens. Indeed a lot of the very high energy regions cannot be accessed with anything but ultrafast pulsed systems, as CW setups would just destroy themselves (and even using UF systems chirping "tricks" are used to reduce peak powers until the final moment to ensure the optics aren't burnt out).

      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirped_pulse_amplification

    5. Re:Time duration? by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Roland has always been good at making mundane shit sound exciting.
      I always got angry when I got lured into his blog by fancy summary, because there is never any substance to his fantastic tales.

    6. Re:Time duration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh, but you haven't seen my torch.

    7. Re:Time duration? by baker_tony · · Score: 1

      >Such comparisons are ridiculous because even I can say my torch is brighter than the sunlight on the surface of the sun for 1 gazillionth of a second. :P

      That's like saying my hand slapping you up-side the head for saying something like that has the power of planets crashing together at light speed for a quadfartbillionpoosandwees-second. ;-)

    8. Re:Time duration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't.

      P.S.
      My captcha was 'squinted'.

    9. Re:Time duration? by Sciros · · Score: 1

      THAT's like saying me slapping YOU upside the head has the power of all the stars in all the galaxies in the universe going supernova at the same time for a MINUTE!

      (nonsense either way)

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    10. Re:Time duration? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ah yes, little bobby tables we call him.

  9. the fools! by apodyopsis · · Score: 1

    FTFA: "They will create mini-supernovas."

    the Fools! the Fools! what could possibly go wrong? Actually I'm not so worried about a mini supernova as I am a mini black hole, because I don't see a mini supervova as possibly self sustaining (might take out a few scientists though - there's always plenty more), whilst a mini black whole near a large mass might last long enough to eat us all. Still, a better way to go then the grey goo.

    1. Re:the fools! by Hojima · · Score: 1

      You're joking right? I hope that you're aware that we've been creating black holes and other "mini cosmic catastrophes" with particle accelerators for years now. Many crazy scientists (or just overly concerned) have been worried about such things while failing to realize that cosmic rays (which have been colliding for eons) should theoretically produce them since they are based on the same principles. There are even odd super particles that have odd quark configurations that are supposed to convert all matter in to it, so long as the creation process can be sustained, but if this theory was correct, neutron stars would have produced them by now. Believe me, humans aren't capable of reproducing catastrophes any better than the extreme conditions of space. These people have a good idea about what they're doing since they've observed the effects in space (though not closely enough, which is why they built the accelerators to begin with).

    2. Re:the fools! by Digestromath · · Score: 2, Insightful
      You can have mini-black holes, but you can't really have mini-novae or mini-supernovae (mini-super would be a contradiction anyways right?).

      However, your right be concerned about the potential bouts of uncontrollable fusion/fission and thier scientist vaporizing shockwaves.

      The mini black holes aren't a worry. It's when they become large enough to devour scientists, and thier space/time warping event horizons encroach on your personal boundaries, then you should worry.

      Grey goo? Seriously, you're a human. We replicate out of control consuming any natural resources we can get our hands on. We're just not really efficient grey goo.

    3. Re:the fools! by Taint+Bearer · · Score: 0

      Grey goo? Seriously, you're a human. We replicate out of control consuming any natural resources we can get our hands on. We're just not really efficient grey goo. All that means is that we are going to get taken over by a more efficient grey goo.
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    4. Re:the fools! by Poorcku · · Score: 1

      micro-black holes already created? when? For all i know only LHC will have this kind of power. And i am too a little worried :) - you know, because the Hawking radiation has not been proven yet. If it doesn't exist, we are screwed :)

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    5. Re:the fools! by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      because I don't see a mini supervova as possibly self sustaining

      And if it was self-sustaining, we could probably find a way to harness all that power to run my really big TV.

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    6. Re:the fools! by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Billions of bacteria species have been trying for billions of years. True "grey goo" takes too much energy to ever convert the whole surface of the world.

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  10. WARNING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do not stare into beam with remaining eye

  11. finally by FlashBuster3000 · · Score: 1

    the laser elevator may become true!

    http://blag.xkcd.com/2008/02/15/the-laser-elevator/

    let's lift some squirrels :)

  12. Uses? by sjs132 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one thinking about "Real Genius"? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089886/

    Lets get ready to cook some popcorn!

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    1. Re:Uses? by Balorn · · Score: 1

      Indeed, my first thought was "can it pop enough popcorn to fill a house?"

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  13. For a tenth of a femtosecond... by weremook · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am the greatest lover that ever lived.

    But seriously,I have been electrocuted by 20,000V at significant current several times. But only for a few hundred nanoseconds at a time. Sparks plugs rock.

    1. Re:For a tenth of a femtosecond... by D4rk+Fx · · Score: 1

      But seriously,I have been electrocuted by 20,000V at significant current several times. But only for a few hundred nanoseconds at a time. Sparks plugs rock. Death caused by an electric shock is referred to as electrocution. Maybe you want to look up your vocabulary a bit more before you keep repeating this. because you were seriously not electrocuted.
    2. Re:For a tenth of a femtosecond... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Death caused by an electric shock is referred to as electrocution. Maybe you want to look up your vocabulary a bit more before you keep repeating this. because you were seriously not electrocuted.

      Maybe you should realise that word meanings change and the dictionary definition of a word is by no means definitive. Here is some evidence that about 80% (at least) of people (based on a sample of about 420) would include non-lethal electric shock in the definition of electrocution. If you say they are 'wrong' that is meaningless; in English, words mean what people take them to mean, and if a significant number of people 'misuse' a word then the new meaning is an alternative definition of the word and will generally appear in the dictionary eventually.

    3. Re:For a tenth of a femtosecond... by weremook · · Score: 1

      Oh, I meant what I said. I am a zombie, and I am going to haunt the $h17 out of you.

    4. Re:For a tenth of a femtosecond... by weremook · · Score: 1

      because you were seriously not electrocuted. And you think this is a complete sentence?
  14. Wrong by Poromenos1 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The duration of the laser is a gross underestimation, it's nowhere near that short. In reality, it's about 100 attoseconds long, and we all know 100 > 0.1...

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    1. Re:Wrong by Torvaun · · Score: 1

      You must work for Verizon.

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    2. Re:Wrong by Poromenos1 · · Score: 1

      It was a joke.

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    3. Re:Wrong by Torvaun · · Score: 1

      So was mine. Specifically, I was alluding to the well-reported issue they had with discerning the difference between .002 dollars and .002 cents.

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  15. Nice, but... by GNUThomson · · Score: 1

    How do I RepRap one of those?

  16. Re:Twofo Goatse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You love it more. I don't see the nerds posing it on a daily basis, now go change your shorts.

  17. Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 4, Informative
    A petawatt is only 10^15 watts.

    Our Sun puts out about 4 x 10^24 watts, continuously, for billions of years.

    So this laser is only putting out about one four-billionth of the Sun, and only for a very split second.

    It's also very misleading if they intended to compare brightness per unit area. Even a cheap laser pointer is brighter than the surface of the Sun.

    1. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also very misleading if they intended to compare brightness per unit area. Even a cheap laser pointer is brighter than the surface of the Sun.

      Yes, a cheap laser pointer has surface power density comparable to the sun's radiation on earth (about 1kW/m^2), but that's a little different than the power density on the surface of the sun, don't you think? Take the ratio between 1AU (distance from sun to earth) and the radius of the sun (it's about 200), cube it, and that's the difference between what you wrote and what they actually said. So you're only off by 6 or 7 orders of magnitude.

      Incidentally, the earth only receives about 5*10^-10 of the sun's energy. If we made a device using that much energy for even a femtosecond, it would dissipate as much heat as a ton of TNT, except it would do so 100 times faster than the largest nuclear device ever detonated. Not exactly something that you could use and then expect it or its human operators to function a second time.

    2. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by maxume · · Score: 1

      I generally take "brighter...the surface of the sun" to refer to intensity and to naturally refer to the output for some area.

      (Your point that it doesn't mean very much stands, but it is kind of neat that we pathetic humans can touch the power of the universe, so I understand why they refer to it)

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    3. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Swampash · · Score: 3, Funny

      I would be happier if they expressed the power of this laser in the recognized units of "Libraries of Congress" and "football fields".

    4. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      It's worse than not meaning much, it's very misleading because it places the parts of the comparison in the same ballpark. Dinosaurs roamed the earth even before we had book printing too.

    5. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by maxume · · Score: 1

      I don't think it is misleading at all. It might be a little esoteric(because most people don't have any prior knowledge of the nominal power of the sun or a good grasp of just how short the pulse is), but it doesn't draw the reader into a poor conclusion, it just leaves the poor conclusion available.

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    6. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll do ya one better: Coffee. This laser uses ~200 joules which is ~50 calories so thats about 1 8-ounce brewed coffee with 1 tablespoon half-and-half and 1 teaspoon sugar or about 7 chocolate covered espresso beans.

    7. Re:Wrong about the Sun and petawatts by tinkerton · · Score: 1

      I don't mind the comparison "emitting as much light as the whole sun but only during a very short period", even if it is off by a huge factor. And your earlier remark about touching the power of the universe is nice there. What does bother me(but not terribly so-I have a life) is when light intensity, the amount of energy going through a surface in an amount of time, of blackbody radiation is compared to that of a laser. Any plain pulsed laser is already brighter than the sun (in a very tiny spot during a very tiny period ) but this is obfuscated, it becomes harder to believe, when one states that this superlaser is brighter than the sun. It be

      The light at the surface of the sun can heat things up to nearly 6000K. Not more, not with lenses, mirrors whatever. Lasers do millions of degrees.

  18. picosecond, not femtosecond by The+Bender · · Score: 2, Informative

    The pulse length is ~100 fs (0.1 ps), not 0.1 fs. 100 fs is already about as short as laser pulses can get - and 0.1 fs is much shorter than the length of a single electromagnetic wave.

    1. Re:picosecond, not femtosecond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sort of...you can do a lot better than 100 fs, the laser I'm working on at the moment can do ~10 fs pulses, and I'm pretty sure you can go slightly better than that.

      On the other hand, 0.1 fs is deep into the UV, and almost into X-ray frequencies. These lasers typically operate at infrared frequencies - a couple of femtoseconds in period, and it's definitely a typo in the article.

  19. Sharks by psychicsword · · Score: 1

    Now to put it on a F***ing sharks heads

  20. Obvious mistake in TFA by justkeeper · · Score: 5, Informative

    One femtoseocnd is 10 to the power of -15 of a second,NOT one trillionth of a second.Thus the pulse duration should be 100 fs,which is realistic.State of the art technology can't yet produce high power sub-femtosecond(i.e attosecond) pulses ,due to low conversion efficiency of energy concentrated on the low-frequency spectrum to the high-frequency spectrum using currently available methods(for an attosecond pulse a Fourier Transform will show that you have mostly X-ray frequency components in the frequency spectrum). Discaimer:I'm a Ph.D student working on high-power laser systems.

    1. Re:Obvious mistake in TFA by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      that's no so much a disclaimer as a claimer.

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    2. Re:Obvious mistake in TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also known as disclosure.

    3. Re:Obvious mistake in TFA by RockMFR · · Score: 1

      Looks like the summary is the only place where femtosecond is mentioned. The actual article has it right.

  21. Re:global warming by cheater512 · · Score: 1

    And what exactly powers it? Oh wait coal.

  22. Re:global warming by QuantumG · · Score: 0

    Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power. How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear? Hahahaha.

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  23. when I read the title by justleavealonemmmkay · · Score: 1

    when I read the title I thought it was about a slasher movie

  24. Soon to be a Dime a Dozen by djtachyon · · Score: 5, Informative

    University of Rochester is building a petawatt laser of capable of picosecond pulse lengths. http://omegaep.lle.rochester.edu/

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    1. Re:Soon to be a Dime a Dozen by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      a petawatt laser of capable of picosecond pulse lengths Yeah, but wouldn't the femtosecond pulse rate make this one superior?
    2. Re:Soon to be a Dime a Dozen by djtachyon · · Score: 1
      (Pico = 10^-12) > (Femto = 10^-15); so, no.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pico-

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    3. Re:Soon to be a Dime a Dozen by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

      Right, but doesn't shorter pulse time == more accuracy?

  25. not to be a pedant, but... by The+Bender · · Score: 2, Interesting

    To be fair, a 5mW laser point would need to be focused to a diameter of ~10 microns to reach the sun's surface intensity of ~6kW/cm^2.
    And a cheap laser pointer can't be focused to that size.

    But of course you're right. They're just going for the unwashed public wow factor.

  26. why do they keep telling us about new ones? by v1 · · Score: 0

    This is what, "superlaser" nuber four in the last couple months. Always with a firing time down in the femptoseconds or something like that.

    New rule. You cannot call it "world's most powerful laser" until you understand the definition of power . I don't care if you ARE dumping jiggawats into it, if the time period is dividing it by a trillion to come up with the power which ends up somewhere around a AA battery, I don't need to hear about it.

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    1. Re:why do they keep telling us about new ones? by NewbieProgrammerMan · · Score: 1

      You cannot call it "world's most powerful laser" until you understand the definition of power . I don't care if you ARE dumping jiggawats into it, if the time period is dividing it by a trillion to come up with the power which ends up somewhere around a AA battery
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  27. So ..... by codehoser · · Score: 0

    Can someone clarify -- the details confuse me: I should or should _not_ point this at my eyeball while active.

  28. Re:global warming by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power.

    Yes, peta watts (10 ^ 15) for less than a femto (10 ^ -15) second)

    A mere blip compared to other power uses. I don't think this research is particularly relevant to climate change, the OP was trying to start a flamewar.

    How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear? Hahahaha.

    Probably natural gas. And carbon-neutral is a better way to describe nuclear than clean.

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  29. Nope. You are a factor of 1000 out. by Maddog+Batty · · Score: 2, Informative

    Nope. The key ring laser pointers are 1mW to 5mW so this thing is 2000 to 10000 times the average power. A 10W laser is very good at setting fire to things but won't drill a hole through your still twitching body.

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    1. Re:Nope. You are a factor of 1000 out. by s_p_oneil · · Score: 1

      It was meant to be a joke, but you're right, I messed it up. ;-) If we're being serious though, we also need to account for the fact that the keychain lasers use 1-5mW in a full second, not in 100 femtoseconds, so you would need to scale that number up by several orders of magnitude.

    2. Re:Nope. You are a factor of 1000 out. by philspear · · Score: 1

      I'm no physicist, but I have a hard time believing that this laser won't kill me when it is "2,000 times more powerful than all the power plants in the US, and is brighter than sunlight on the surface of the Sun," even for only a femtosecond. You see, I am very fragile when it comes to high-energy reactions.

  30. pocket size by p51d007 · · Score: 1

    Oh goodie! Now in a couple of years, when they figure out a way to make a laser pointer out of this, we can have these burning holes in everything LOL.

  31. Billion-watt light bulb by JoeD · · Score: 1

    I guess this is time to repost that story about the billion-watt light bulb.

    http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/humor/billion-watt-light-bulb

  32. Serious Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would it actually blind you as it only lasts for "a 10th of a trillionth of a second"?

    1. Re:Serious Question by Arcturax · · Score: 1

      The answer to that would be "Do not look at laser with remaining head."

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  33. Finally! by AioKits · · Score: 1

    Now I have a way to make some giant Texas Toast, or as it is called, Texas Petatoast.

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  34. Obligatory by Ricken · · Score: 1

    Now featuring upcoming horror flick The Texas Petawatt Laser Massacre

  35. Out of his element again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's a petawatt, Walter?

    1. Re:Out of his element again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up, Donny.

  36. That's right, bitches... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yet another thing that the Texas Longhorns have the biggest and best of. Now if only we could mount this thing on Godzillatron and point it at Norman, OK.

  37. It's what they don't say by cnosh · · Score: 3, Informative

    You have to put this in perspective. They may have made a laser with highest peak intensities but it's nowhere near the most energetic laser out there. According to their press release their pulses have 150 J of energy. Compare this to the National Ignition Facility at Lawrence Livermore laser, which will produce 1.8 MJ per shot when it is completed next year, or to the laser at the University of Rochester, which will produce several kJ. Though not yet finished, both these lasers have already demonstrated many kJ of energies.

  38. In other news by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    George Lucas sues the University of Texas for copyright infringement.

    Quote: "-They have clearly turned the earth into a Death Star. And, it just so happens, I've got it registered!"

  39. The saying is true. by Plazmid · · Score: 1

    I guess this means the saying that "everything is bigger in Texas"* must be true. *except for microchips, which in Texas are in fact smaller.

  40. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad there are guys (and girls) like you that paid attention in school. My biggest calculation these days is figuring out how much time i have to rub one out before my roommate gets home from work.

  41. Laser uses parts from the old Lawrence laser by iteyoidar · · Score: 1

    It's interesting to note that this laser actually uses one of the original diffraction gratings from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory's petawatt laser, which was later dismantled as mentioned in the blog post.

  42. Do not look towards Texas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...with remaining eye.

    1. Re:Do not look towards Texas... by Rub1cnt · · Score: 1

      Rest assured that while the gateways this device creates have been certified safe for human travel, the device itself has not... Do not touch the operational end of the device..Do not look into the operational end of the device. Do not submerge the device in liquid, even partially...

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  43. Roland the Plogger again by Animats · · Score: 4, Informative

    More Roland the Plogger blogspam, driving traffic to his useless ad-laden blog. To get around the block on links to his own site, he's now submitting links disguised via "tinyurl".

    Slashdot covered this laser weeks ago.

    1. Re:Roland the Plogger again by Arcturax · · Score: 1

      No kidding, I saw that too.

      Slashdot editors! Wake up and quit posting this WALKING SACK OF PLAGERISM!

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    2. Re:Roland the Plogger again by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 1

      Go plagiarize some spelling from a dictionary.

  44. I hear Pacific Tech is right behind them by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 3, Funny

    They have a freshman wonder kid and a graduating senior working together on breakthrough laser designs.

  45. You, for one, should welcome by Specter · · Score: 1

    your new Texan Petawatt Laser Overlords.

  46. Sooners beware by blakecraw · · Score: 1
    The Texas Petawatt was built with funding provided by the National Nuclear Security Administration, an agency within the U. S. Department of Energy.

    The article's not quite right; funding came from revenue generated by the football program, and we've currently got it aimed at Norman, Oklahoma

  47. Fun statistic by Dachannien · · Score: 1

    That's approximately one sextillion photons per firing.

  48. Imagine... by Perf · · Score: 1
    Imagine a bewolf cluster of Slashdorks repeating the same post... "Do not look into laser with remaining eye."

    Imagine a myriad of monkeys randomly typing, posting the entire works of Shakespeare...

  49. Nope. You are definitely wrong. by celtic_hackr · · Score: 2, Informative

    10W lasers are frequently used for engraving in metals and will, if left on long enough burn a hole through steel. While it may take a while, and your body will no longer be twitching, it can and will eventually burn a hole through a human body. The grandparent of your post is wrong about the "heat thing" is also wrong. You have to use the instantaneous power. While the explosive power of firecrackers exploded 1 per second is small, one firecracker explosion is enough to do serious harm to a finger. If any of you think this petawatt laser isn't producing significant energy output, I dare any of you to stick your finger in it's path. I guarantee, you'll lose some flesh and bone.

    BTW, surgical lasers are generally in the range of 3-100W and a 30 watt laser will rapidly burn a hole completely through your hand, and you won't even know it happens until it's done. It will be quite painless. Maybe some residual heat, or a reaction from a nerve after the fact. And a 5mW Laser will easily burn through your retina, depending on the wavelength of the laser. Of course a single look in a 5mW laser will leave a very small bindspot, unless you keep it on your eye looking at it from lots of angles.

    Naturally there is a difference between pulsed and continuous beam lasers, and this petawatt laser is not a continuous beam. There are no continuous beam lasers in this region of energy output, because nothing could hold up to the continuous heat produced by one.

  50. Same old Sharks but a joke by JohaunaRei · · Score: 1

    I wonder what the punch line should be for, "How many sharks does it take to carry the The Texas Petawatt laser so they can enslave the free world"?

  51. I thought the summary said taser by Jaqenn · · Score: 1

    When I glanced over the summary, I thought that said a petawatt taser.

    Thought to myself...ouch.

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  52. It's time to bring back... by camperdave · · Score: 1

    Back in the 1970s, when lasers were shiny "new" tech, they would demonstrate them by burning holes in razor blades. This prompted the "Gilette" as a unit of measure for lasers, ie how many razor blades could the laser burn through per pulse. I say it's time to revive this measure.

    So the question arises, is the power delivered to the razor blade be enought to burn a hole through it, or will the shortness of the pulse mean that there's not enough time to do anything but vapourize a few of the surface atoms? In short, how many Gilettes is this laser?

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  53. 1 Femtosecond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sure, sure, that's what I tell my lady friends too. "Yeah baby, it IS the biggest in the world, larger than a Blue Whale's in fact, only last a femtosecond though so you had better get on quick."

  54. Correction: by JSBiff · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Don't Lase me, Bro!"

    Fixed it for you.

  55. Re:global warming by pclminion · · Score: 1

    Petawatt Lasers use, wait for this, petawatts of power. How you think that power is generated? Nice clean nuclear?

    Power is "change in energy divided by time." So there are two reasons why power could be an enormous number -- 1, the change in energy could be huge, or 2, the time is incredibly short. In this case, it's the latter. Yes, the number comes out to be "petawatts." Yes, it's correct. No, that doesn't mean they need a nuclear reactor to produce the energy, as the actual amount of energy is really very small.

  56. With that thing... by mcmire · · Score: 1

    you could have one hell of a lasercat

  57. Power vs Energy by dunc78 · · Score: 1

    I believe the other reply to your comment was regarding the irony of you discussing power without understanding the definition of power. Power is an instantaneous measurement, what you are comparing is energy (Power x Time) or AVERAGE power (Power x Duty Factor). I haven't RTFA, but I will believe an earlier post which said the AVERAGE power is about 10 Watts. A "AA" battery delivering 10 Watts of power could do so for ~ 13 minutes (assuming 1.5 V, 1500 mAh); however, this assumes a AA battery is capable of delivering 6.6 Amps of current, which I suspect isn't likely (though I don't know the internal resistance of a "AA" battery).

  58. ZPM's are used for power by Joe+The+Dragon · · Score: 1

    They use a ZPM to power it.

  59. Scribbles by WarJolt · · Score: 1

    That diagram looks a little like something I scribbled when I was 2. I was genius then too. ;-)

    Is there anything that explains it?

  60. Made in Texas... by edsyc · · Score: 1

    How long before they start killing the falsely accused with this laser?

  61. The movie by laejoh · · Score: 0

    I'm waiting for the movie to come out: The Texas Petawatt Laser Massacre!.

    I hope it has sharks in it!

  62. Re:global warming by brokenbeaker · · Score: 1

    the problem with this is that you are assuming that the laser is 100% efficient - which i'm sure it's not. So the power needed would be three to four orders higher than the power delivered by the laser.

  63. Re:global warming by Whiney+Mac+Fanboy · · Score: 1

    So the power needed would be three to four orders higher

    OMG! Three to four orders higher!!!!!!!

    Shit, what? We're talking about... what? Hundreds of watts? Thousands?

    THE WORLD IS GOING TO END!!!!1!@

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