You can objectively come to this conclusion by deviating from their idea of normal. The left will tolerate you. The right will punish you.
No one is normal, the only difference between us is our willingness to conform to an ideological standard.
But perhaps in a world devoid of intrinsic relativism, in a righteous world I suppose, that scenario would paint the deviant as an objectively bad person in need of reform and training. No doubt, there are many righteous people online spreading the word for their faith, warning us of the coming cultural apocalypse.
We're doing the national equivalent of "rolling coal" by electing Trump-Pence. Hopefully the rest of the world will stay patient with us, as it is but a phase.
I kinda liked that site. It was a fun read. I also listened to Alex's show for the same reason. The best comparison I could make for it at the time is to the supermarket tabloids. It's not so much that it's fake news, as it was pure entertainment that happened to be taken seriously by random nut jobs we could easily ignore in our day to day lives. (And who Alex could profit from by selling crappy prepper merchandise)
Unfortunately one of those people is our future President. I'm waiting for him to question the moon landing. Then we will be entering the prologue to Interstellar.
His rise is symptomatic of an increasing number of people taking these shit-stain outlets seriously. The MSM de-legitimized itself and made this possible, and I place the blame squarely on their shoulders. Thanks to them we have to remind people that these sources are "fake", and that they aren't smarter than everyone else for having a pointlessly contrarian view of vaccinations, 9/11, global warming, the Earth's roundness, or the moon landing.
No. I don't care about BLM, but since you went there, yes, I have some racist black family members who vote Democrat. I love them all, but they 100% exist, and yes, black people can be racist.
People are fine until they're told repeatedly that Trump voters are white nationalists / actual Nazis. Thanks to the 24 hour "news" cycle and the human capacity for developing bad habits, we've got wholly programmed individuals walking around operating on this false us-vs-them narrative.
Not just him. The default response is to call Trump voters racist. I didn't vote for him, but I've heard it happen here at work.
Meanwhile lots of candidates and politicians are potential racists. You can't get around that. Joe Biden might be one, does that mean his voters in the past (pre VP) were also racists? Of course not.
Finger the ones pushing the narrative that Trump voters are and I'll show you the people tearing this country apart in their losing bid to retain influence for their political masters.
The original Nook Color unofficially had bluetooth. Wifi is provided by the same chip and rooting it enabled this feature (though the range was truly pitiful). You may be able to do the same with the new tablet, but considering your needs, you're better off not buying a tablet from a bookstore company in the first place.
People like to argue "We're not a Democracy!" on this side of the pond too. They are wrong.
Democracy isn't a strict term with a single definition, but rather a master set of associated governing styles, of which includes representative governments like the US and the UK. Representatives don't listen to and act on behalf of their voters as a courtesy, it's their job. They have to bend to the public will in order to keep their job. While this isn't always true - thanks to gerrymandering and other such schemes to defraud the public will - we should continue to hold ourselves to that democratic ideal, and not proudly thumb our noses at the concept all together.
Yeah, and Twitter's kinda got the right idea with the new filtering options. People on this site are thinking it's all about censorship, but it's really not - so long as your last sentence there remains true there's no way a social media/silicon valley company can silence you.
If you're asking that, I don't think you read my post. My reply is basically a rebuttal of that mindset. True: Life exists without "Facebook and similar crap" - but when it comes down to it, if your friends are on it, and you're not, you will be out of the loop and miss out. This is more of an issue with kids, but even as an adult I've missed some fun opportunities to hang out with friends and family by not checking in enough.
As an adult that's okay to do though. I totally understand the desire to be left alone, I really do, and I still take breaks from FB. Kids are more dependent on their friends though. They need friends to build up their self-worth, especially the kids that tend to be targets for bullies. It's all they have until they get a job and a family of their own. I'm just trying to illustrate it in a way that might help someone understand that it's not just about a bunch of "bratty snowflake SJWs-in-the-making who want to ruin the internet for everyone else"... or anything overly dramatic like that.
I think you lost the point trying to split hairs there. AC, you can come and go as you please - you're not tied down to their plantation with sunk costs you'll never get back. There's no license to resell to get your money back because you never purchased one to begin with. Even if you want to argue the eyeball point, it's still on you to change your behavior instead of continuing to be their cash crop.
Perhaps it's not about what they can or can't do. Some of them could probably roll their own Twitter in a day. It's about what they wish they could make you do. If you run a service, you better play ball with them or uncle Trump's script kiddies will straighten you out.
It's no secret where their politics are - you already knew there might be a problem trying to communicate your message on the platform of a company that's vehemently against what you stand for. This shouldn't surprise you. Besides, you're a guest. If you don't like the house rules, you can go elsewhere or roll your own platform.
I'm probably a little younger than you, and I had the same opinion about social media in general. But what I found, is that even as an adult, I needed it, as it's one of the primary ways to stay in touch with my friends.
It's not so much that you've got enough old school grit that you don't need new fancy technology when you can just dial a number from memory to ask when you can come over to play poker, it's the fact that all of your friends are online too, and they all communicate mostly on this platform. An announcement of a party will happen there. Nobody will call you and you'll miss out.
And for a lot of kids, especially the shy ones, this might be the bulk of their interaction with their friends and other students. And now, a bully (or multiple) comes along, and forces them to potentially abandon them all. They can create all of the accounts they want, the bully will know it's their target if they try to link with their friends again on a social media platform.
Without that social media platform, you run the risk of gradually losing touch with your group, and potentially losing the opportunities to hang out with them. This has happened to me as an adult, so I know it's happened to kids.
I guess my point is, retreating from social media is how the bully wins. It's not the solution to the problem, it's just giving in to the wishes of the belligerent personality... and if they're really determined, they can keep going. The can still text you, leave harassing messages, and follow you home to beat you up.
But now that I think about it... the solution does seem pretty simple. If your child is being bullied, give them permission to fight back physically. They're still kids, and while he or she might be suspended or expelled, their lives won't be ruined. Let them know they can throw some punches and not get into trouble with you, and the problem might stop right there.
It might eventually come to this, but I don't think it's there yet. I'm also not sure if it would be a bad thing to respond like that. If you can devastate civil life with something, be it technology or unfettered free trade, you're obviously going to want less of it. You'll want to tax it, regulate it, and otherwise encourage industry to do without it.
Also, it might be time to accept that we Americans will never have an Unconditional Basic Income. It is incompatible with the American spirit to tax ourselves enough to sustain anything like that, assuming it's sustainable at all. It may be better for the sake our individual and national pride to take the long way around and guarantee work rather than income.
Even if it takes freezing society inside a 2010's era technological bubble, it may be worth it to avoid an environment where you can live an entire life without purpose and at the mercy of sustained government charity.
Understandable... but at this stage I don't care what the DNC does anymore. Until they fire some people (specifically Donna, but more would be better), they're as irrelevant as the Libertarians and the Greens.
...that being said. Smart phone VR - or anything without head tracking for that matter, is kind of a lack luster experience. It's like the difference between watching a 3D movie at the theater, and stepping into your local university's CAVE. I honestly think there could be a market for just the head tracking feature alone. The brain derives more meaningful depth information from that lateral movement than it does from eyeball triangulation, IMHO.
It's the hipster thing to do at the moment. What they fail to understand, is that these headsets aren't like the old school HMDs. Computers now are really freakishly fast, environments are super realistic, FOV is wider than ever, and there is better, faster (not at all sickening), head tracking, to the degree that if you just have one eyeball, you can still get that intense, engrossing experience.
These people don't get that. They think of that Lawnmower Man movie, and all the VR hype of the 80s and early 90s, and think "not this again," not realizing what they're missing, or that the thing they criticize is totally different from what they remember.
What's to stop us from limiting the use of robots and computers?
I'm not arguing for anything, we already agree. I'm just wondering where this is going to go. How far are we willing to go to bring back 1950's American manufacturing and other unskilled jobs?
"Wake Me Up When...", Freeze yourself until preset conditions are met!
Also... kinda funny how Slashdot turns super liberal the minute Trump wins. Where did all those supporters go? Did their last check arrive or something?
Slashdot Mirror
You can objectively come to this conclusion by deviating from their idea of normal. The left will tolerate you. The right will punish you.
No one is normal, the only difference between us is our willingness to conform to an ideological standard.
But perhaps in a world devoid of intrinsic relativism, in a righteous world I suppose, that scenario would paint the deviant as an objectively bad person in need of reform and training. No doubt, there are many righteous people online spreading the word for their faith, warning us of the coming cultural apocalypse.
We're doing the national equivalent of "rolling coal" by electing Trump-Pence. Hopefully the rest of the world will stay patient with us, as it is but a phase.
I kinda liked that site. It was a fun read. I also listened to Alex's show for the same reason. The best comparison I could make for it at the time is to the supermarket tabloids. It's not so much that it's fake news, as it was pure entertainment that happened to be taken seriously by random nut jobs we could easily ignore in our day to day lives. (And who Alex could profit from by selling crappy prepper merchandise)
Unfortunately one of those people is our future President. I'm waiting for him to question the moon landing. Then we will be entering the prologue to Interstellar.
His rise is symptomatic of an increasing number of people taking these shit-stain outlets seriously. The MSM de-legitimized itself and made this possible, and I place the blame squarely on their shoulders. Thanks to them we have to remind people that these sources are "fake", and that they aren't smarter than everyone else for having a pointlessly contrarian view of vaccinations, 9/11, global warming, the Earth's roundness, or the moon landing.
No. I don't care about BLM, but since you went there, yes, I have some racist black family members who vote Democrat. I love them all, but they 100% exist, and yes, black people can be racist.
...of a 400 pound basement hacker.
I know quite a few racist Democrat Hillary voters.
People are fine until they're told repeatedly that Trump voters are white nationalists / actual Nazis. Thanks to the 24 hour "news" cycle and the human capacity for developing bad habits, we've got wholly programmed individuals walking around operating on this false us-vs-them narrative.
Not just him. The default response is to call Trump voters racist. I didn't vote for him, but I've heard it happen here at work.
Meanwhile lots of candidates and politicians are potential racists. You can't get around that. Joe Biden might be one, does that mean his voters in the past (pre VP) were also racists? Of course not.
Finger the ones pushing the narrative that Trump voters are and I'll show you the people tearing this country apart in their losing bid to retain influence for their political masters.
The original Nook Color unofficially had bluetooth. Wifi is provided by the same chip and rooting it enabled this feature (though the range was truly pitiful). You may be able to do the same with the new tablet, but considering your needs, you're better off not buying a tablet from a bookstore company in the first place.
People like to argue "We're not a Democracy!" on this side of the pond too. They are wrong.
Democracy isn't a strict term with a single definition, but rather a master set of associated governing styles, of which includes representative governments like the US and the UK. Representatives don't listen to and act on behalf of their voters as a courtesy, it's their job. They have to bend to the public will in order to keep their job. While this isn't always true - thanks to gerrymandering and other such schemes to defraud the public will - we should continue to hold ourselves to that democratic ideal, and not proudly thumb our noses at the concept all together.
We've cryed wolf so many times when a real one shows up we don't know what to say.
That's a good point. I'll keep it in mind!
Yeah, and Twitter's kinda got the right idea with the new filtering options. People on this site are thinking it's all about censorship, but it's really not - so long as your last sentence there remains true there's no way a social media/silicon valley company can silence you.
If you're asking that, I don't think you read my post. My reply is basically a rebuttal of that mindset. True: Life exists without "Facebook and similar crap" - but when it comes down to it, if your friends are on it, and you're not, you will be out of the loop and miss out. This is more of an issue with kids, but even as an adult I've missed some fun opportunities to hang out with friends and family by not checking in enough.
As an adult that's okay to do though. I totally understand the desire to be left alone, I really do, and I still take breaks from FB. Kids are more dependent on their friends though. They need friends to build up their self-worth, especially the kids that tend to be targets for bullies. It's all they have until they get a job and a family of their own. I'm just trying to illustrate it in a way that might help someone understand that it's not just about a bunch of "bratty snowflake SJWs-in-the-making who want to ruin the internet for everyone else"... or anything overly dramatic like that.
I think you lost the point trying to split hairs there. AC, you can come and go as you please - you're not tied down to their plantation with sunk costs you'll never get back. There's no license to resell to get your money back because you never purchased one to begin with. Even if you want to argue the eyeball point, it's still on you to change your behavior instead of continuing to be their cash crop.
Uproot yourself. Use something else.
Perhaps it's not about what they can or can't do. Some of them could probably roll their own Twitter in a day. It's about what they wish they could make you do. If you run a service, you better play ball with them or uncle Trump's script kiddies will straighten you out.
Yeah, I don't get the reaction here. This is the killer feature that'll save Twitter.
It's no secret where their politics are - you already knew there might be a problem trying to communicate your message on the platform of a company that's vehemently against what you stand for. This shouldn't surprise you. Besides, you're a guest. If you don't like the house rules, you can go elsewhere or roll your own platform.
I'm probably a little younger than you, and I had the same opinion about social media in general. But what I found, is that even as an adult, I needed it, as it's one of the primary ways to stay in touch with my friends.
It's not so much that you've got enough old school grit that you don't need new fancy technology when you can just dial a number from memory to ask when you can come over to play poker, it's the fact that all of your friends are online too, and they all communicate mostly on this platform. An announcement of a party will happen there. Nobody will call you and you'll miss out.
And for a lot of kids, especially the shy ones, this might be the bulk of their interaction with their friends and other students. And now, a bully (or multiple) comes along, and forces them to potentially abandon them all. They can create all of the accounts they want, the bully will know it's their target if they try to link with their friends again on a social media platform.
Without that social media platform, you run the risk of gradually losing touch with your group, and potentially losing the opportunities to hang out with them. This has happened to me as an adult, so I know it's happened to kids.
I guess my point is, retreating from social media is how the bully wins. It's not the solution to the problem, it's just giving in to the wishes of the belligerent personality... and if they're really determined, they can keep going. The can still text you, leave harassing messages, and follow you home to beat you up.
But now that I think about it... the solution does seem pretty simple. If your child is being bullied, give them permission to fight back physically. They're still kids, and while he or she might be suspended or expelled, their lives won't be ruined. Let them know they can throw some punches and not get into trouble with you, and the problem might stop right there.
It might eventually come to this, but I don't think it's there yet. I'm also not sure if it would be a bad thing to respond like that. If you can devastate civil life with something, be it technology or unfettered free trade, you're obviously going to want less of it. You'll want to tax it, regulate it, and otherwise encourage industry to do without it.
Also, it might be time to accept that we Americans will never have an Unconditional Basic Income. It is incompatible with the American spirit to tax ourselves enough to sustain anything like that, assuming it's sustainable at all. It may be better for the sake our individual and national pride to take the long way around and guarantee work rather than income.
Even if it takes freezing society inside a 2010's era technological bubble, it may be worth it to avoid an environment where you can live an entire life without purpose and at the mercy of sustained government charity.
Understandable... but at this stage I don't care what the DNC does anymore. Until they fire some people (specifically Donna, but more would be better), they're as irrelevant as the Libertarians and the Greens.
...that being said. Smart phone VR - or anything without head tracking for that matter, is kind of a lack luster experience. It's like the difference between watching a 3D movie at the theater, and stepping into your local university's CAVE. I honestly think there could be a market for just the head tracking feature alone. The brain derives more meaningful depth information from that lateral movement than it does from eyeball triangulation, IMHO.
It's the hipster thing to do at the moment. What they fail to understand, is that these headsets aren't like the old school HMDs. Computers now are really freakishly fast, environments are super realistic, FOV is wider than ever, and there is better, faster (not at all sickening), head tracking, to the degree that if you just have one eyeball, you can still get that intense, engrossing experience.
These people don't get that. They think of that Lawnmower Man movie, and all the VR hype of the 80s and early 90s, and think "not this again," not realizing what they're missing, or that the thing they criticize is totally different from what they remember.
What's to stop us from limiting the use of robots and computers? I'm not arguing for anything, we already agree. I'm just wondering where this is going to go. How far are we willing to go to bring back 1950's American manufacturing and other unskilled jobs?
"Wake Me Up When...", Freeze yourself until preset conditions are met!
Also... kinda funny how Slashdot turns super liberal the minute Trump wins. Where did all those supporters go? Did their last check arrive or something?