schools can teach logic too, or good manners at the table or statistics or whatever you want. Use of digits is still easier than letters. But that never stopped humanity to use whatever system comes next - maybe worse technically and cause more trouble but hey it is shiny shiny:)
I would not be surprised.
I actually disagree. I do not think this is as stupid as to defy belief. I think it is even dumber than that. Not that phone number system is really all that necessary but why throw out something that is still used in many different contexts and is vital in parts of the technical infrastructure? As said it is not that we cannot replace wit with something else but to replace it with FB id would mean you replace it with FB id plus dozen of other ids that you need to use services that you use. Why would you want to go trough this trouble? Who pays? So in fact it is dumber than to defy belief - people can say such thing and almost nobody notices. Nobody knows how even basic things work, not even in basic abstract level that allows them to understand what, in this case, a phone number's role is. It is kind of like water mills in late Roman empire - they were still there but the fuckers living in the empire not only forget how to read and write but also how to use the basic technology that supported their economy. At the end the emperor could not read and write either. No wonder they fucked it up. I just wonder when this happens to us. The quality of our infallible leaders is deteriorating and complexity of problems is raising, hordes of neanderthals wonder aimlessly around. I think a major blood letting is due.
Then again maybe I forgot to take my antidepressants.
well you can go without of course. You can always give up one system and go to another. Nobody is stopping you. But then nobody is forcing you either, not yet at least.
There can be a lawsuit but as these things go as long as the value of privacy is high everywhere elsewhere (at least officially) then one can argue that bending over is a decision that has negative effect commercially.
There is also another issue. I wonder how fast countermeasures will be available, at least for android based phones where law may not be applicable (because countermeasures are developed elsewhere etc). Clearly such countermeasures will be pain in the arse, so most will not use them, but those that want to, will. The question then is how this will help authorities even if such law will ever be allowed to stand.
Everybody has to decide for him/herself but one thing I learned in ground school already. If you do not value yourself not many will. You should not exaggerate with this but there is also another effect - once you ask for more your value in eyes of your boss will raise as s/he notices you are not a used up furniture. You may not get the money this time but your evaluation may be better next time or at least you get attention and more ambitious tasks that allow you to show off etc. Of course this should be enjoyed with care and does not always work but what does?
The unfortunate thing is that anarchy although in theory a nice system requires that most people hold to undeclared and unwritten rules and that there are no masses of huns that take or destroy everything at will. In fact the anarchist society built on free will and cooperation seems to attract bullies and said huns which then enslave those nice educated free people. It is enough that the huns destroy things on occasion for the free people to want to give up their freedoms and to have a king that organize knights to kick ass of the barbarians. Once a king and police and the rules are in place you have no choice as to accept the rules or face consequences. t is all the same with property rights etc - there is no god's given right to own any piece of land in private hand. It is our agreement to do so because we found out it works better than any other systen.
I love anarchy in principle. As all ideal systems however it does not work. So now we are stuck with an asshole neighbour who as drunk and uneducated as he is, has the same rights as you do, stuck with a corrupt political class that if its members have any sense they keep big parts of population fed and under mind control.
So here we are - with our copy right shit that is in hands of crooks and extended in perpetuity. As long as they do not rob you because you listened to one pirated song, played one pirated game and saw one pirated pr0n so long all is well.
Most of the natives that died as a result of Europeans arriving in Americas died because of infection. This does not make it good but it is not a killing you make it be.
As for US Americans and their corporations and political elites destroying all the their EU counterparts being better - I have serious doubts. Take Merkel for instance and you will find a ruthless bitch that destroys all that stands in her way (of staying at power). Morals are used here only as a means to that end. The only advantage European countries may have is the size of the country which makes removing of elite leaches a bit easier - it is still damned difficult anyway so that is rather theoretical. You take TTIP&CETA perspective and you will see that actually what happens is that international corporations are undermining the state and societies skimming them all and destroying if need be (in the sake of free trade and spreading of 'liberal and open' society of course).
In principle it is the the old conflict between power that be and the rest and which is fought over and over again with front lines that are not always clear marked. Uber is a good example of that. There are clearly no benefit for people in northern Europe of having it - the services it offers are already available, the taxi services usually good enough. The only real advantage they offer is unified service like in McDonalds so that especially business travelers have their lives made a little bit easier. That advantage is more than offset but pumping the profits outside of respective markets (to some tax heavens usually). How that benefits local societies is not quite clear to me and is (in my view) justified only if services provided benefit from centralization which they do not here. There are services that benefit from such centralization of services however - search machines are one such example (it does not mean there should be only one of course).
Yeah surely they are all sane. You ever wondered why only few rather naive people tried to stop the bad Austrian painter even if failure was clearly visible? This probably happens from time to time in NK too and the trusted advisers and generals die in car accidents.
whether economists believed in that or not is irrelevant as we cannot ever verify their beliefs. There were always hordes of them ready to tell us how the growth will go on forever, virtual economy has decoupled itself from real one and other such nonsense. Your second sentence may or not be true - most of places where population growth went over the available resources however had a slaughter that followed. We see if we can provide solution with technology and organisation. I myself doubt that we can but we have no choice as to see it anyway.
Most brogrammers I know have missed on most of the abilities you listed. This is true for the cheap ones and for the expensive ones too. There are some in both classes that do have them and can deploy them appropriately. This is the minority. Not sure whether there is any pattern to be had here other than most humans are unintelligent apes and some are intelligent but still apes.
there is more than 1 guy in this portion - something that qualifies as many. It is probably more than people that live in the village I live so for me it qualifies as 'a lot' too. ymmv tho
It is actually a fair point - I can imagine nice law suits in case he did just that - as this rightly could be seen as intentionally wasting the wealth of the corporation he leads. The argument here being: either change the laws or leave him alone.
I always wondered what is the purpose of spreading the disease, that the humanity is, further and further - there is none except our need to keep alive and for some to reproduce as much as the available vaginas hold.
There is no much resentment against FB in Germany. There is quite heated atmosphere around the discarding borders and what it has caused - people are threatened and attacked by both right wing nuts as well as left wing nuts. The press usually describe all as right wing aggression (as in Dresden on 13.12.2015 - where titles read "riots at neonazi demo" were in fact a group bigger that those that demonstrated attacked police and caused major mayhem in the city) or does not at all which indirectly shows who we may suspect. FB refused to delete some posts claiming free speech - something that is not appreciated at all in Germany these days. No wonder they are attacked by the black flag brigade and this is tolerated by media. OC that is what I think and not what police knows. Weknow however how instrumental German security apparatus is: NSU (neonazi terrorists that killed many people in Germany) trial is going on and we know now that NSU activity could have been hindered and lives saved if not for cover from security services (Verfassungschutz mostly). That they may cover the other side at least in media seems entirely plausible.
Interesting times, we have now.
In fact an all plants of patented variety obliterating disease just before the patent on it runs out is very welcome - you get another newly patented one and all is well.
this is really easy. You have 3 guys in your team - convincing them may not be a short process but it is possible. You have hundred developers - you can just forget it. Unless of course you are allowed to use taser to convince and stocks (with tar and feathers as well as flogging in more critical cases) to ensure compliance.
Ah unions are at fault, why not directly Putin? Gee I came here years ago for the quality of comments also those at the lowers level now this gets modded up into/. mod-heaven and I am wondering what the hell is wrong with me that I spend time here.
So what we need to tell all aircraft manufacturers - install this strain gauge of yours (if the view that there are only 3 points there is accurate enough is another story). This will surely include heavy cost as with anything aircraft related and produce its own faults. I am not saying it should not be done. What I wanted to covey is that it is not certain that the effort is worth it. I am pretty sure mistakes are made all the time more than it is comfortable to think about. Yet nothing really happens. In one case both pilots made a mistake making it to almost crash yet there was still no significant damage or? Thus the question is justifiable - is the technological measure so much better to make it into production? As with many other things that we experience in real life - there are solutions and we still do not use them because the cost does not justify the benefits. Especially if cost is not only deploying new solution but also costs of new faults that it brings with it.
The beauty of this whole theory is that before you measure it, you do not know. If you measure it you know. So the whole problem what value it has before you measure it is moot but after you measure it, you even know more than you would expected because the fuckers are entangled.
This Gll dude is just silly - he does it all wrong, if he made an intelligent car with 3d printer as discussed here many times this would solve all the problems. Even more - if the whole world had been made with a giant 3d printer then there would be no problem with white spots on maps used by autonomous cars.
At least at the beginning when the model and reality were still almost the same.
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schools can teach logic too, or good manners at the table or statistics or whatever you want. Use of digits is still easier than letters. But that never stopped humanity to use whatever system comes next - maybe worse technically and cause more trouble but hey it is shiny shiny :)
I would not be surprised.
I actually disagree. I do not think this is as stupid as to defy belief. I think it is even dumber than that. Not that phone number system is really all that necessary but why throw out something that is still used in many different contexts and is vital in parts of the technical infrastructure? As said it is not that we cannot replace wit with something else but to replace it with FB id would mean you replace it with FB id plus dozen of other ids that you need to use services that you use. Why would you want to go trough this trouble? Who pays? So in fact it is dumber than to defy belief - people can say such thing and almost nobody notices. Nobody knows how even basic things work, not even in basic abstract level that allows them to understand what, in this case, a phone number's role is. It is kind of like water mills in late Roman empire - they were still there but the fuckers living in the empire not only forget how to read and write but also how to use the basic technology that supported their economy. At the end the emperor could not read and write either. No wonder they fucked it up. I just wonder when this happens to us. The quality of our infallible leaders is deteriorating and complexity of problems is raising, hordes of neanderthals wonder aimlessly around. I think a major blood letting is due.
Then again maybe I forgot to take my antidepressants.
well you can go without of course. You can always give up one system and go to another. Nobody is stopping you. But then nobody is forcing you either, not yet at least.
There can be a lawsuit but as these things go as long as the value of privacy is high everywhere elsewhere (at least officially) then one can argue that bending over is a decision that has negative effect commercially.
There is also another issue. I wonder how fast countermeasures will be available, at least for android based phones where law may not be applicable (because countermeasures are developed elsewhere etc). Clearly such countermeasures will be pain in the arse, so most will not use them, but those that want to, will. The question then is how this will help authorities even if such law will ever be allowed to stand.
Everybody has to decide for him/herself but one thing I learned in ground school already. If you do not value yourself not many will. You should not exaggerate with this but there is also another effect - once you ask for more your value in eyes of your boss will raise as s/he notices you are not a used up furniture. You may not get the money this time but your evaluation may be better next time or at least you get attention and more ambitious tasks that allow you to show off etc. Of course this should be enjoyed with care and does not always work but what does?
The unfortunate thing is that anarchy although in theory a nice system requires that most people hold to undeclared and unwritten rules and that there are no masses of huns that take or destroy everything at will. In fact the anarchist society built on free will and cooperation seems to attract bullies and said huns which then enslave those nice educated free people. It is enough that the huns destroy things on occasion for the free people to want to give up their freedoms and to have a king that organize knights to kick ass of the barbarians. Once a king and police and the rules are in place you have no choice as to accept the rules or face consequences. t is all the same with property rights etc - there is no god's given right to own any piece of land in private hand. It is our agreement to do so because we found out it works better than any other systen.
I love anarchy in principle. As all ideal systems however it does not work. So now we are stuck with an asshole neighbour who as drunk and uneducated as he is, has the same rights as you do, stuck with a corrupt political class that if its members have any sense they keep big parts of population fed and under mind control.
So here we are - with our copy right shit that is in hands of crooks and extended in perpetuity. As long as they do not rob you because you listened to one pirated song, played one pirated game and saw one pirated pr0n so long all is well.
what other benefits do you really need?
Most of the natives that died as a result of Europeans arriving in Americas died because of infection. This does not make it good but it is not a killing you make it be.
As for US Americans and their corporations and political elites destroying all the their EU counterparts being better - I have serious doubts. Take Merkel for instance and you will find a ruthless bitch that destroys all that stands in her way (of staying at power). Morals are used here only as a means to that end. The only advantage European countries may have is the size of the country which makes removing of elite leaches a bit easier - it is still damned difficult anyway so that is rather theoretical. You take TTIP&CETA perspective and you will see that actually what happens is that international corporations are undermining the state and societies skimming them all and destroying if need be (in the sake of free trade and spreading of 'liberal and open' society of course).
In principle it is the the old conflict between power that be and the rest and which is fought over and over again with front lines that are not always clear marked. Uber is a good example of that. There are clearly no benefit for people in northern Europe of having it - the services it offers are already available, the taxi services usually good enough. The only real advantage they offer is unified service like in McDonalds so that especially business travelers have their lives made a little bit easier. That advantage is more than offset but pumping the profits outside of respective markets (to some tax heavens usually). How that benefits local societies is not quite clear to me and is (in my view) justified only if services provided benefit from centralization which they do not here. There are services that benefit from such centralization of services however - search machines are one such example (it does not mean there should be only one of course).
Yeah surely they are all sane. You ever wondered why only few rather naive people tried to stop the bad Austrian painter even if failure was clearly visible? This probably happens from time to time in NK too and the trusted advisers and generals die in car accidents.
I do not know why they always miss blow jobs from labour statistics.
whether economists believed in that or not is irrelevant as we cannot ever verify their beliefs. There were always hordes of them ready to tell us how the growth will go on forever, virtual economy has decoupled itself from real one and other such nonsense.
Your second sentence may or not be true - most of places where population growth went over the available resources however had a slaughter that followed. We see if we can provide solution with technology and organisation. I myself doubt that we can but we have no choice as to see it anyway.
Most brogrammers I know have missed on most of the abilities you listed. This is true for the cheap ones and for the expensive ones too. There are some in both classes that do have them and can deploy them appropriately. This is the minority. Not sure whether there is any pattern to be had here other than most humans are unintelligent apes and some are intelligent but still apes.
there is more than 1 guy in this portion - something that qualifies as many. It is probably more than people that live in the village I live so for me it qualifies as 'a lot' too. ymmv tho
It is actually a fair point - I can imagine nice law suits in case he did just that - as this rightly could be seen as intentionally wasting the wealth of the corporation he leads. The argument here being: either change the laws or leave him alone.
I always wondered what is the purpose of spreading the disease, that the humanity is, further and further - there is none except our need to keep alive and for some to reproduce as much as the available vaginas hold.
There is no much resentment against FB in Germany. There is quite heated atmosphere around the discarding borders and what it has caused - people are threatened and attacked by both right wing nuts as well as left wing nuts. The press usually describe all as right wing aggression (as in Dresden on 13.12.2015 - where titles read "riots at neonazi demo" were in fact a group bigger that those that demonstrated attacked police and caused major mayhem in the city) or does not at all which indirectly shows who we may suspect. FB refused to delete some posts claiming free speech - something that is not appreciated at all in Germany these days. No wonder they are attacked by the black flag brigade and this is tolerated by media. OC that is what I think and not what police knows. Weknow however how instrumental German security apparatus is: NSU (neonazi terrorists that killed many people in Germany) trial is going on and we know now that NSU activity could have been hindered and lives saved if not for cover from security services (Verfassungschutz mostly). That they may cover the other side at least in media seems entirely plausible.
Interesting times, we have now.
In fact an all plants of patented variety obliterating disease just before the patent on it runs out is very welcome - you get another newly patented one and all is well.
roll or die?
this is really easy. You have 3 guys in your team - convincing them may not be a short process but it is possible. You have hundred developers - you can just forget it.
Unless of course you are allowed to use taser to convince and stocks (with tar and feathers as well as flogging in more critical cases) to ensure compliance.
Ah unions are at fault, why not directly Putin? Gee I came here years ago for the quality of comments also those at the lowers level now this gets modded up into /. mod-heaven and I am wondering what the hell is wrong with me that I spend time here.
So what we need to tell all aircraft manufacturers - install this strain gauge of yours (if the view that there are only 3 points there is accurate enough is another story). This will surely include heavy cost as with anything aircraft related and produce its own faults. I am not saying it should not be done. What I wanted to covey is that it is not certain that the effort is worth it. I am pretty sure mistakes are made all the time more than it is comfortable to think about. Yet nothing really happens. In one case both pilots made a mistake making it to almost crash yet there was still no significant damage or? Thus the question is justifiable - is the technological measure so much better to make it into production? As with many other things that we experience in real life - there are solutions and we still do not use them because the cost does not justify the benefits. Especially if cost is not only deploying new solution but also costs of new faults that it brings with it.
The beauty of this whole theory is that before you measure it, you do not know. If you measure it you know. So the whole problem what value it has before you measure it is moot but after you measure it, you even know more than you would expected because the fuckers are entangled.
You seriously mean that for this we need an a robotic overlords? Wow.
That is why we outsource these difficult mostly boring but for a society vital tasks to people that care i.e. politicians. It is a win/win.
This Gll dude is just silly - he does it all wrong, if he made an intelligent car with 3d printer as discussed here many times this would solve all the problems. Even more - if the whole world had been made with a giant 3d printer then there would be no problem with white spots on maps used by autonomous cars.
At least at the beginning when the model and reality were still almost the same.