I am not afraid...fear is not a factor for me...know why? because I am willing to fight to continue to live in the land of the free and home of the brave. Do you think that Mr. Jihadi gives two shits about the land of the free and home of the brave? No, all he cares about is causing destruction in the hopes that you will either convert or die. Read their book, there is nothing in that rag that states "be peaceful with your neighbors". As for calling me a coward...go get shot at and then have some asshole tell you that you are a coward. Where is your bravery asshole? typing a few pathetic words on a forum decrying how your rights have been trampled (still not certain as to which ones they are) and how your country isn't what you think it should be is not bravery.
Well in my case, I spent 8 years defending this country and shed blood for it. Both sides of my family had relative who fought in both the French and Indian War, and teh War for Independance. So when Bin Laden attacked MY country not once not twice but three f'in times and the ahole in power feels that it more important to get a hummer in the Oval Office than to respond with undoubtable force it pisses me off. It is people that think the same way that you do that have allowed it to happen. I am betting that you voted for Clinton (both times) and that particular President did little to protect MY country when he had the chance. The continually "turn the other cheek" policy didn't prevent 9/11. I am proud that we finally have a President who says "Enough is enough" and is doing something about it. Personlly I think that we should neutron(the only good thing that Carter gave us from his administration)the friggan place and leave it to the mother lovin rats but too many touchy feely huggy wuggies feel that that wouldn't be humane. I argue that they aren't even human so being humane has little to do with it. Go hug a tree hippy. Leave the protect of the country to people with balls enough to do something when attacked
I think you missed my point, Sir. There were 2 main points I was bringing up.
First, that as soon as there is an attack, people, typically liberals, suggest that someone should have done somethign to prevent it, But whenever someone does something, such as issue a warning or try to apprehend potential aggressors, those issuing the warnings or apprehending agress are call fear mongers or jack booted thugs or whatever term you wish to accept by they same a-holes that complain that nothing was done shoudl there ever be a success attack. Don't believe me...look at everything that has happened from 9/10 until now.
Second, I was trying to illustrate in simple terms (obviously not simple enough) that you either accept the actions of an agressor or you fight back with ALL means at your disposal. Once you commit to one or the other, you have to be prepared to continue to do the same until the threat is eliminated. Waffling on your decision will only encourage an agressor to continue and invite others to follow suit. It's not about being macho. It's about making a stand, which libs tend not to be able to do with effect very often.
I am surprised that a slashdotter doesn't believe in 1's and 0's, ons and offs, black and white. Everything can be boiled down into binary terms. I also find it interesting that you have taken this so personally...how my opinions effect you is beyond me.
I can remember having played the 'flinch game" when I was a kid. We all remember this don't we? A kid feints a good hard punch to your sholder, if you don't flinch he hits you hard, if you do flinch he does it again even harder....This is the same crap. Unfortunately the populace of the US has been so emmasculated in the past 50 years or so that when some wacko actually pulls off an attack (of any kind) those people, typically, with more liberal views start crying "Someone should have done something to prevent this". But when someone actually tries to warn people or 'stop' such an event they are called FEAR MONGERS. This is one of the reason that terrorism is such an effect weapon. I'm sorry for over simplifying but you can't have it both ways and there is no middle ground. When you get punched in the noce you have 2 choices, punch back and continue punching until the threat is GONE, or do nothing and accept the fact that it will continue to happen regardless of what action you take. One of these will cost more in the terms of life and property that the other. Make your choice, stick by it, and shut the hell up.
It's obvious that you have never read the Sagas. If, as you say, Greenland was a "shithole" why then was there almost 100 years immigration to the new found lands? Why was trade with Iceland so profitable? The climate of greenland at that time was very much like Scandinavia, even the geography was similar. Iceland, where he was kick out of, had little land suitabel for farming, and what land it did have wasn't all that great.
actually there were three settlements that they found, check the link here http://members.aol.com/bakken1/viking/vikgrn.htm I certainly agree that they didn't plant vines. There were there for over a centery, and they would probably still be there if it wasn't for Christdom.
Actually, the entire artic region wouldn't have to be completely thawed. As I understand it the Core samples are generally taken from deep ice nearer the polar regions. Another item I would like to point to is that Greenland, was ONCE GREEN!!!!! Erik "The Red" Thorgrimson discovered it in 982. The ice cap can exsist while the Artic region is liquid. By liquid I mean it doesn't have to be solid, seawater freeze at what -1.91C? so if the southern regions of the Artic Ocean are just a couple of degrees warmer, guess what the ice melts and it's not solid, or at least less solid, because boats can sail through slush, even thin ice. Besides, wasn't most of the northern hemisphere tropical during the Jurasic Period? Who is to say that the earth is finally coming out of the cold snap that killed the TRex? Pop Science makes me want to vomit.
Personally, I have no desire to leave the best country on this rock. However, for those Rosie O'Donnell/Alec Baldwin types, who are so disgusted with the freedoms that we have, I really don't care where they go...so long as they go. Perhaps their frustrations would be elevated in China, I am sure that their opinion on how things are run there would be welcomed. Or, perhaps France, this option will make it all the better when it becomes time to create that glass parking lot for Euro-Disney.
Addressing the question as to why they haven't left yet I submit this observation. They lack the courage and conviction to act out their threats. They do not want to leave because they know that they will not be able to voice their opinions elsewhere, or earn the kind of money that they do here. They will not have people who will listen to them because, unlike here, no one wants to hear what they have to say. This would destroy the very fiber of their being.
Additionally, those who claim that this country is evil, or the administration is committing some evil plot (Buwahaha) really have no concept as to what being an American is. It is every Americans duty to speak out against what they feel is wrong or corrupt, but, after the democratic process has been completed and the MAJORITY of your fellow countrymen have disagreed with you, it's time shut the hell up. Those who would rather leave are free to do so, however in doing so they should loose their citizenship as it is apparent that they disagree with the fundamental principles of The Constitution.
When I was in screwl, a little over 20 years ago, it was the geeky, nerdy, kids who played games, and spent time on computers (I was one, I should know). I also didn't do so well in high screwl, not because of playing games but because I realized that screwl was nothing more than a community funded, baby sitting service.
Teachers, in general, are obligated to teach to the lowest common denominator. It is felt that those student in the middle will progress at a 'normal' rate, those who are 'above average' will excel on their own, and those 'below average' will have enough education to push brooms.
This D-F high screwl drop out has had; an exemplary tour in the military; has two degrees, both with honors; and a stimulating career with in the IT community. As for some of the 'Above average' classmates I had? One had a brief prison stint, another is a full blown alcoholic collecting cans for booze. Just goes to show you "one day the cock of the walk, the next, a feather duster".
I am really sorry that this thread as gone so far off the topic of the parent thread. Anyway...
The accepted definition of a 'militia' is any able bodied male between 16 and 65 NOT (repeating here) NOT in service with the federal government. So unless you are already in one of the branches of military (including the National Guard) or other facet of the federal Gov'ment YOU are the militia.
If you want to widdle away at the national debt why not re-read the Consititution and pay close attention Article I, Section 8. To save you some time, it's tariffs, exsise and customs taxes. You know the very items that we currently do not enforce. Remember, the Revolutionary War was waged by the wealthy merchant class of New England BECAUSE they didn't want to pay the taxes the crown had imposed.
I just love how most liberals only use the parts of the Constitution they want to support their arguments.
I don't vote based entirely on party affiliation. Although, GENERALLY, Republicans tend to be conservative. The gubernorial race in Ohio is ugly, neither canidate is worth voting for...still undisided.
I don't recall the previous post mentioning locking people up, merely placing leaders of organization on watch lists and what amounts to spying on them.
Listen, I am a pretty hardcore conservative and what is going on sickens me. The truth is, in addressing the Second Ammendment, that it was originally included in the Bill of Rights for 2 reasons. 1. to allow the populace a means of defending themselves from foreign invaders and the indidgenous population (Indians). 2. to allow the populace a vehicle to control tyrany from within. Unfortunately, the last 100 years or so the interpritation of this Ammendment has be butchered, mostly by liberals (fact not a flame). It was not uncommon, up until the Spanish American War, for private individuals to maintain standing armies, with heavy artillery, even naval vessels. This is no longer allowed by law. If it were allowed I suspect that a wide varity of problems would have been solved a long time ago.
Under Part 15 of the FCC rules, you can legally broadcast on the FM band if you broadcast using less that 100 milliwatts of output power and an antenna less than 3' long.
Of course the Swiss, being world reknown for their sailing abilities, came up with a totally innovative solution. Of course, if a hurricane happens to block out the sun for a week they would be up the creek (or ocean) without a paddle, or a sail, or one drop of gassoline.
In this case they want 'paper ballots' because it is much easier to tamper with the results. Remember our good friend Chad?
I live in Cleveland, and in our primary a few months ago there were all sorts of problems...in Cleveland. Aside from some administrative problems like not having enough machines in a given area or not having the right ballots in the machines that they had the problems were with the voters. The primaries in other area of the state which used the Diabold machines had few if any issues. This boils down to one thing USER ERROR. Meaning that if you aren't smart enough to figure out how to use the friggan machine, *AND* double check the printed ballot when you are finished then perhaps you shouldn't be voting.
I say this because I am tired of policies and laws that protect the stupid from themselves.
A. I never said he was brilliant
B. my point was that the people designing and developing these platforms, who are supposed to be the 'billiant minds,' have no common sense.
I am not suggesting that a rocket scientist is well educated. I am suggesting that they don't have the sense to pour piss out of a boot, with the instructions to do written on the sole. And I am not suggesting that they all are lacking common sense either.
BTW: Would YOU step into a spacecraft that was designed by a guy that stored his 'important' files in the recycle bin on his computer?
I know a guy who is a subcontracter at one of the research centers. He is an IT technician. I get to hear all sorts of stories about these so call 'brilliant rocket scientists'...stuff like "what do you mean I shouldn't store my email in the deleted items folder?" or "my laptop doesn't work when I hit the power button" meaning the power button on the monitor that isn't even connected to the laptop. He also relayed a story of a conversation that happened around the lunch table, they were talking about the mission to Mars. After some debate about "they could do this or that" he had this to say "You know the engineers and scientist that we work with? You do realize that THEY are the ones working on this stuff? Having worked with most of them...you can have my seat on that rocket...". Remember that these are also the people that 'forgot' to convert metric to standard messurements once. It's one thing to 'forget' to do laundry but to forget to translate metric or forget to even include it in the checklist?!?! Until space travel/exploration becomes a private venture there will be slow progress. NASA doesn't get sued when it's human cargo get vaporized, a private company...will.
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I am not afraid...fear is not a factor for me...know why? because I am willing to fight to continue to live in the land of the free and home of the brave. Do you think that Mr. Jihadi gives two shits about the land of the free and home of the brave? No, all he cares about is causing destruction in the hopes that you will either convert or die. Read their book, there is nothing in that rag that states "be peaceful with your neighbors". As for calling me a coward...go get shot at and then have some asshole tell you that you are a coward. Where is your bravery asshole? typing a few pathetic words on a forum decrying how your rights have been trampled (still not certain as to which ones they are) and how your country isn't what you think it should be is not bravery.
Well in my case, I spent 8 years defending this country and shed blood for it. Both sides of my family had relative who fought in both the French and Indian War, and teh War for Independance. So when Bin Laden attacked MY country not once not twice but three f'in times and the ahole in power feels that it more important to get a hummer in the Oval Office than to respond with undoubtable force it pisses me off. It is people that think the same way that you do that have allowed it to happen. I am betting that you voted for Clinton (both times) and that particular President did little to protect MY country when he had the chance. The continually "turn the other cheek" policy didn't prevent 9/11. I am proud that we finally have a President who says "Enough is enough" and is doing something about it. Personlly I think that we should neutron(the only good thing that Carter gave us from his administration)the friggan place and leave it to the mother lovin rats but too many touchy feely huggy wuggies feel that that wouldn't be humane. I argue that they aren't even human so being humane has little to do with it. Go hug a tree hippy. Leave the protect of the country to people with balls enough to do something when attacked
I think you missed my point, Sir. There were 2 main points I was bringing up. First, that as soon as there is an attack, people, typically liberals, suggest that someone should have done somethign to prevent it, But whenever someone does something, such as issue a warning or try to apprehend potential aggressors, those issuing the warnings or apprehending agress are call fear mongers or jack booted thugs or whatever term you wish to accept by they same a-holes that complain that nothing was done shoudl there ever be a success attack. Don't believe me...look at everything that has happened from 9/10 until now. Second, I was trying to illustrate in simple terms (obviously not simple enough) that you either accept the actions of an agressor or you fight back with ALL means at your disposal. Once you commit to one or the other, you have to be prepared to continue to do the same until the threat is eliminated. Waffling on your decision will only encourage an agressor to continue and invite others to follow suit. It's not about being macho. It's about making a stand, which libs tend not to be able to do with effect very often. I am surprised that a slashdotter doesn't believe in 1's and 0's, ons and offs, black and white. Everything can be boiled down into binary terms. I also find it interesting that you have taken this so personally...how my opinions effect you is beyond me.
I can remember having played the 'flinch game" when I was a kid. We all remember this don't we? A kid feints a good hard punch to your sholder, if you don't flinch he hits you hard, if you do flinch he does it again even harder....This is the same crap. Unfortunately the populace of the US has been so emmasculated in the past 50 years or so that when some wacko actually pulls off an attack (of any kind) those people, typically, with more liberal views start crying "Someone should have done something to prevent this". But when someone actually tries to warn people or 'stop' such an event they are called FEAR MONGERS. This is one of the reason that terrorism is such an effect weapon. I'm sorry for over simplifying but you can't have it both ways and there is no middle ground. When you get punched in the noce you have 2 choices, punch back and continue punching until the threat is GONE, or do nothing and accept the fact that it will continue to happen regardless of what action you take. One of these will cost more in the terms of life and property that the other. Make your choice, stick by it, and shut the hell up.
Maybe we should invest in HD Internet.... I for one welcome our HDTV Overlords....(had to be said)
And when that day comes I for one will welcoe our humorless overlord rulers.....
It's obvious that you have never read the Sagas. If, as you say, Greenland was a "shithole" why then was there almost 100 years immigration to the new found lands? Why was trade with Iceland so profitable? The climate of greenland at that time was very much like Scandinavia, even the geography was similar. Iceland, where he was kick out of, had little land suitabel for farming, and what land it did have wasn't all that great.
actually there were three settlements that they found, check the link here http://members.aol.com/bakken1/viking/vikgrn.htm
I certainly agree that they didn't plant vines. There were there for over a centery, and they would probably still be there if it wasn't for Christdom.
Actually, the entire artic region wouldn't have to be completely thawed. As I understand it the Core samples are generally taken from deep ice nearer the polar regions. Another item I would like to point to is that Greenland, was ONCE GREEN!!!!! Erik "The Red" Thorgrimson discovered it in 982. The ice cap can exsist while the Artic region is liquid. By liquid I mean it doesn't have to be solid, seawater freeze at what -1.91C? so if the southern regions of the Artic Ocean are just a couple of degrees warmer, guess what the ice melts and it's not solid, or at least less solid, because boats can sail through slush, even thin ice. Besides, wasn't most of the northern hemisphere tropical during the Jurasic Period? Who is to say that the earth is finally coming out of the cold snap that killed the TRex? Pop Science makes me want to vomit.
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Two wrongs don't make a right..... but two rights do make a left...... think about it
Personally, I have no desire to leave the best country on this rock. However, for those Rosie O'Donnell/Alec Baldwin types, who are so disgusted with the freedoms that we have, I really don't care where they go...so long as they go. Perhaps their frustrations would be elevated in China, I am sure that their opinion on how things are run there would be welcomed. Or, perhaps France, this option will make it all the better when it becomes time to create that glass parking lot for Euro-Disney. Addressing the question as to why they haven't left yet I submit this observation. They lack the courage and conviction to act out their threats. They do not want to leave because they know that they will not be able to voice their opinions elsewhere, or earn the kind of money that they do here. They will not have people who will listen to them because, unlike here, no one wants to hear what they have to say. This would destroy the very fiber of their being. Additionally, those who claim that this country is evil, or the administration is committing some evil plot (Buwahaha) really have no concept as to what being an American is. It is every Americans duty to speak out against what they feel is wrong or corrupt, but, after the democratic process has been completed and the MAJORITY of your fellow countrymen have disagreed with you, it's time shut the hell up. Those who would rather leave are free to do so, however in doing so they should loose their citizenship as it is apparent that they disagree with the fundamental principles of The Constitution.
When I was in screwl, a little over 20 years ago, it was the geeky, nerdy, kids who played games, and spent time on computers (I was one, I should know). I also didn't do so well in high screwl, not because of playing games but because I realized that screwl was nothing more than a community funded, baby sitting service. Teachers, in general, are obligated to teach to the lowest common denominator. It is felt that those student in the middle will progress at a 'normal' rate, those who are 'above average' will excel on their own, and those 'below average' will have enough education to push brooms. This D-F high screwl drop out has had; an exemplary tour in the military; has two degrees, both with honors; and a stimulating career with in the IT community. As for some of the 'Above average' classmates I had? One had a brief prison stint, another is a full blown alcoholic collecting cans for booze. Just goes to show you "one day the cock of the walk, the next, a feather duster".
I am really sorry that this thread as gone so far off the topic of the parent thread. Anyway... The accepted definition of a 'militia' is any able bodied male between 16 and 65 NOT (repeating here) NOT in service with the federal government. So unless you are already in one of the branches of military (including the National Guard) or other facet of the federal Gov'ment YOU are the militia. If you want to widdle away at the national debt why not re-read the Consititution and pay close attention Article I, Section 8. To save you some time, it's tariffs, exsise and customs taxes. You know the very items that we currently do not enforce. Remember, the Revolutionary War was waged by the wealthy merchant class of New England BECAUSE they didn't want to pay the taxes the crown had imposed. I just love how most liberals only use the parts of the Constitution they want to support their arguments.
I don't vote based entirely on party affiliation. Although, GENERALLY, Republicans tend to be conservative. The gubernorial race in Ohio is ugly, neither canidate is worth voting for...still undisided.
I don't recall the previous post mentioning locking people up, merely placing leaders of organization on watch lists and what amounts to spying on them.
Listen, I am a pretty hardcore conservative and what is going on sickens me. The truth is, in addressing the Second Ammendment, that it was originally included in the Bill of Rights for 2 reasons. 1. to allow the populace a means of defending themselves from foreign invaders and the indidgenous population (Indians). 2. to allow the populace a vehicle to control tyrany from within. Unfortunately, the last 100 years or so the interpritation of this Ammendment has be butchered, mostly by liberals (fact not a flame). It was not uncommon, up until the Spanish American War, for private individuals to maintain standing armies, with heavy artillery, even naval vessels. This is no longer allowed by law. If it were allowed I suspect that a wide varity of problems would have been solved a long time ago.
I for one welcome our interstellar overlords....
Under Part 15 of the FCC rules, you can legally broadcast on the FM band if you broadcast using less that 100 milliwatts of output power and an antenna less than 3' long.
Of course the Swiss, being world reknown for their sailing abilities, came up with a totally innovative solution. Of course, if a hurricane happens to block out the sun for a week they would be up the creek (or ocean) without a paddle, or a sail, or one drop of gassoline.
In this case they want 'paper ballots' because it is much easier to tamper with the results. Remember our good friend Chad? I live in Cleveland, and in our primary a few months ago there were all sorts of problems...in Cleveland. Aside from some administrative problems like not having enough machines in a given area or not having the right ballots in the machines that they had the problems were with the voters. The primaries in other area of the state which used the Diabold machines had few if any issues. This boils down to one thing USER ERROR. Meaning that if you aren't smart enough to figure out how to use the friggan machine, *AND* double check the printed ballot when you are finished then perhaps you shouldn't be voting. I say this because I am tired of policies and laws that protect the stupid from themselves.
A. I never said he was brilliant B. my point was that the people designing and developing these platforms, who are supposed to be the 'billiant minds,' have no common sense. I am not suggesting that a rocket scientist is well educated. I am suggesting that they don't have the sense to pour piss out of a boot, with the instructions to do written on the sole. And I am not suggesting that they all are lacking common sense either. BTW: Would YOU step into a spacecraft that was designed by a guy that stored his 'important' files in the recycle bin on his computer?
I know a guy who is a subcontracter at one of the research centers. He is an IT technician. I get to hear all sorts of stories about these so call 'brilliant rocket scientists'...stuff like "what do you mean I shouldn't store my email in the deleted items folder?" or "my laptop doesn't work when I hit the power button" meaning the power button on the monitor that isn't even connected to the laptop. He also relayed a story of a conversation that happened around the lunch table, they were talking about the mission to Mars. After some debate about "they could do this or that" he had this to say "You know the engineers and scientist that we work with? You do realize that THEY are the ones working on this stuff? Having worked with most of them...you can have my seat on that rocket...". Remember that these are also the people that 'forgot' to convert metric to standard messurements once. It's one thing to 'forget' to do laundry but to forget to translate metric or forget to even include it in the checklist?!?! Until space travel/exploration becomes a private venture there will be slow progress. NASA doesn't get sued when it's human cargo get vaporized, a private company...will.
Thanks. I'll be sure to make note of it in future sarcastic comments.
Oh well, it looks like a paperless system still alewds us.