i start to use SSL certs other than verisign, and advise my clients to do as such too, and you all do that too, and with that reaction shove that patent up verisign's butt ?
please read it attentively this time. and maybe a few other posts of mine in the thread. you'll see what actually happened, and who it had happened to.
It's actually far more likely that they think you're a rude twit and refuse to comply with your demands for lemon. Having visited Beijing twice in 2005/2006 I can attest most restaurants are more then willing to cater to my order. I've gotten lemon added to my drinks, instructed them on how to make a bloody mary (since clamato is scarce there I wasn't able to get a ceasar, had them swap things around in their dished to accomadate my Cantonese/Canadian tastes. its not me. its a much amiable person than me, one of the members in a community i belong, who actually resides and studies in beijing and goes sightseeing around in the meantime.
a lemon, that is already offered on the side of another dish, and a chopstick in a spaghetti in an italian restaurant are fundamentally two different things.
in the former, lemon is there, its in the context of the restaurant and they have it ready. in the latter, the entire context of restaurant is different, also they have no chopsticks in readiness.
this is not local custom or anything, plain old dishes.
what i see is, not me, but many overly politically correct people are being way too prejudiced in reacting to the example i gave. its as if they think brainwashing is a concept that does not exist on the face of the earth. unfortunately it does, and its very real. attributing nationalism, or other forms of rationalizing features to brainwashing never bears fruit.
there are more of them, like how drivers are actually driving BACKWARDS in a no-cross part of the road until they reach the part marked as crossable to the other side, after stopping at a red light and realizing they need to get to the other side. the irony is that, going backwards in a red light, even they are alone in the road, is much worse than trying to cross over from no-cross line to the other lane.
its exactly like you said. they are able to give the lemon without the other dish, but they cant comprehend such a thing, because it was not set as a rule. there is no rule against it too.
chinese people are SO roboticized that they are not even able to realize that they actually can give lemon with a dish that does not contain lemon in its menu description. 'you cant do that' they say. they dont understand they can actually give lemon with another dish, even if it does not contain the menu item, despite having the liberty to do so. in beijing restaurants. the reason for that is, they are so strictly brainwashed and made to comply with whatever rule is put that, they cant even realize that they can do something like this with their OWN menu in their OWN restaurant.
chinese do not need to be communists anymore. the current populace is SO brainwashed that communism is not needed. you should have seen it in the olympic torch runs, how radical chinese students were.
im one of the 32 year olds that caught almost everything big we had in latter half of 20th century - computers, spider man, internet, golden era of gaming, conan, frp, fps, seinfeld, sh@t and fart. so far to the extent that i have done it all, seen it all.
i went to iron man tonight. with all the past prejudices i got from other screenplays that have been adapted from comics.
and i saw that it was good and it was even fairly kinda better than the comic itself. well done. kudos.
and being a kid. really this political correctness and caring thing is being taken to the extreme. mothers are actually much less developed than their kids, as each generation comes up better than the previous ones. a mother would be stunned and impressed and affected by violent games, but kids, eh, they are actually not taking any game seriously, mark my words. in games, graphical glitches and unrealistic textures would get more of their attention and result in bitching about than any violent content would impress them and encourage them to repeat them. kids grow up with computers now. the effect any computer game has on them is long lost in the first year they start playing games.
the thing is, there is not going to be any problems in regard to precompiled html acceptance on client side, in foreseeable future. however, any new exploit thats discovered/invented by malware producers are going to cause security software to change their behaviour, invalidating any prior code done by tools, even.
you should be commuting an 1 hour ride to work everyday, work your butt off for 8 hours, commute back to home to watch some cable programming after eating some greasy dinner for around 3 hours, and then have some kind of sex and go to bed. and rinse and repeat that for 30 years until the hair on your butt goes grey, then retire and start waiting for death by busying yourself with fishing etc.
the "get a life" jargon idiocy seems to be heavily used in u.s.. what the fuck that is, whats the definiton of a 'life', i really do not understand as a european. you people sure have many stupid stereotypes for any kind of shit.
not only its an unnecessary addition to the frontend just for 'coolness', but also it creates huge problems in regard to your code getting hampered by various security settings in clients' computers. you have to run much more tests with any ajax loaded page than a php/mysql or asp/mssql or cgi/anysql page, to ensure that it will not be shunned by any major security software and whatnot. client side coding is always a problem. something that can be used to do some ui on client side can be used to do malicious stuff. server side heavy scripting with popular scripting languages (php, cgi, asp, you name it) and then sending a totally compiled and ready html document to the client is the best way to ensure your page gets viewed by anyone, everyone.
also the pushing of the unnecessary xml stuff is annoying many developers.
Are you trying to make a point with that statement, or are you just trying to fillibuster the conversation? That statement has virtually no application to the topic or the thread. if you are not able to get the analogy there, i doubt that debating with you will bear any fruit. therefore ill just run a short reply to your post all in one go and get off this conversation.
law prevails. legally registrars are doing nothing wrong, they are sticking by the laws where they are incorporated and sticking with icann rules too. its the abusers that are abusing the system in places that they can, and you have to proceed with that country's law against it, or international laws, or wto rules. else, you cant go to a registrar and close them down because 'some guys are spamming through some domains in cape verde islands'. its seems that you have a limited understanding of law. i bid you a nice day, and advise you to research some laws on the matter.
The question I just posed to you is how did you come to conclude that I am "escaping to irrelevant arguments in defense".
You utterly failed to answer that question. But we can continue anyways. you utterly failed to establish analogy. the idea is, there are many things in the world that we are utilizing to an extreme extent, and they all have their downsides. if you cant accept drying all still waters because of the mosquito problem, your argument becomes invalid.
Domain tasting can affect people who want to purchase new domain names. It does not affect everyone who intend to use domain names, as you state. People who already own domain names are not affected by domain tasting, since their domains are already registered. you are taking things out of their context here. domain tasting is destructive for someone who needs to purchase domain names. however spam is a minor annoyance for someone using email. you are taking WHOLE internet users and then using that as a sample group. it is wrong. with your logic someone can take 7 billion population on earth and argue that nothing on the internet is a major problem, because internet doesnt involve around 6 billion people.
And you are still ignoring the fact that the total portion of internet users looking to purchase new domain names is minuscule in comparison to the total number of people who use email and receive spam. look above
Furthermore, the cost of domain tasting is not felt by the majority of internet users. Internet users do not suffer any appreciable expense as a result of the small portion of users that are impacted by domain tasting. look above again.
On the other hand, every user on the internet is paying an indirect cost (in one way or another) for spam. again a narrow, one sided look. many sites, communities, services, businesses are not able to reach who would be needing/using them easily because of domain tasters. a national motorbike enthusiast organization having to have to buy a particularnationmotorenthusiasts.in or.info or even.net domain name because someone had squatted the.com one affects many people trying to use those services. even at 2008, people still associate internet with.com addresses, remember it right, type it right. furthermore many older or less web savvy people just give up when they cannot access a web site because they dont remember its domain name.
"What's exciting is that people are building new social systems, new systems of review, new systems of governance.
"My hope is that those will produce... new ways of working together effectively and fairly which we can use globally to manage ourselves as a planet." he says. indeed, even now there are many internet communities that users shape up their own opinion about everything, independent of which country they are living in. internet is becoming a super nation
I began this thread by stating that more people are affected by spam than by domain tasting. let me give an example and answer both questions of yours, one of which was 'how did you come to that'.
much more people are affected by mosquitoes than spam. or domain tasting. yet, we are not proceeding to drench every lake and pond and stillwater around the world.
because mosquito problem is a minor annoyance. it is a problem only in countries where diseases that are carried around by them still exist. for the rest of the world, its a minor annoyance.
same goes for spam and domain tasting. spam is a minor annoyance that you have to delete 5 to 10 spam/junk emails on average if you are using a decent service. most of them readily end up in junk boxes anyway, and for the mega corporations that provide such services bandwidth and the filtering hardware is not a major problem. if they were, they would act on it long ago. some even using this to sell anti spam services.
compared to spam, domain tasting affects anyone who intend to use domain names. for a small business, not being able to get a domain name to represent its business or its business name means much more than someone having to delete 10 spam from his/her email every day, or a mega corp that is paying a few percent extra bandwidth costs over spam. it can make an online business, or not.
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i start to use SSL certs other than verisign, and advise my clients to do as such too, and you all do that too, and with that reaction shove that patent up verisign's butt ?
please read it attentively this time. and maybe a few other posts of mine in the thread. you'll see what actually happened, and who it had happened to.
it really did.
... its my carpet and they had no right to piss on it. im gonna go and get my carpet.
you know
a lemon, that is already offered on the side of another dish, and a chopstick in a spaghetti in an italian restaurant are fundamentally two different things.
in the former, lemon is there, its in the context of the restaurant and they have it ready. in the latter, the entire context of restaurant is different, also they have no chopsticks in readiness.
this is not local custom or anything, plain old dishes.
what i see is, not me, but many overly politically correct people are being way too prejudiced in reacting to the example i gave. its as if they think brainwashing is a concept that does not exist on the face of the earth. unfortunately it does, and its very real. attributing nationalism, or other forms of rationalizing features to brainwashing never bears fruit.
there are more of them, like how drivers are actually driving BACKWARDS in a no-cross part of the road until they reach the part marked as crossable to the other side, after stopping at a red light and realizing they need to get to the other side. the irony is that, going backwards in a red light, even they are alone in the road, is much worse than trying to cross over from no-cross line to the other lane.
its exactly like you said. they are able to give the lemon without the other dish, but they cant comprehend such a thing, because it was not set as a rule. there is no rule against it too.
chinese people are SO roboticized that they are not even able to realize that they actually can give lemon with a dish that does not contain lemon in its menu description. 'you cant do that' they say. they dont understand they can actually give lemon with another dish, even if it does not contain the menu item, despite having the liberty to do so. in beijing restaurants. the reason for that is, they are so strictly brainwashed and made to comply with whatever rule is put that, they cant even realize that they can do something like this with their OWN menu in their OWN restaurant.
chinese do not need to be communists anymore. the current populace is SO brainwashed that communism is not needed. you should have seen it in the olympic torch runs, how radical chinese students were.
additionally im spiritualist, kinda a neo hippie. but chinese are annoying me with all kinds of aggression they are practicing.
it was overdue someone beaten sense into those idiots. more power to you nycl, ask it anytime you need. go bro !
im one of the 32 year olds that caught almost everything big we had in latter half of 20th century - computers, spider man, internet, golden era of gaming, conan, frp, fps, seinfeld, sh@t and fart. so far to the extent that i have done it all, seen it all.
i went to iron man tonight. with all the past prejudices i got from other screenplays that have been adapted from comics.
and i saw that it was good and it was even fairly kinda better than the comic itself. well done. kudos.
and being a kid. really this political correctness and caring thing is being taken to the extreme. mothers are actually much less developed than their kids, as each generation comes up better than the previous ones. a mother would be stunned and impressed and affected by violent games, but kids, eh, they are actually not taking any game seriously, mark my words. in games, graphical glitches and unrealistic textures would get more of their attention and result in bitching about than any violent content would impress them and encourage them to repeat them. kids grow up with computers now. the effect any computer game has on them is long lost in the first year they start playing games.
it didnt start with killing. first it started with intimidation, censoring and oppression.
idiot to jump on an internet fad to harass a valid analogy.
for the publicity that the state benefited from fossett's adventures around the world. ingrateful suckers.
one could make huge money with such a butt that can handle a truck
in just 5 or so years google will start mapping our butts.
the thing is, there is not going to be any problems in regard to precompiled html acceptance on client side, in foreseeable future. however, any new exploit thats discovered/invented by malware producers are going to cause security software to change their behaviour, invalidating any prior code done by tools, even.
have a nice day
you should be commuting an 1 hour ride to work everyday, work your butt off for 8 hours, commute back to home to watch some cable programming after eating some greasy dinner for around 3 hours, and then have some kind of sex and go to bed. and rinse and repeat that for 30 years until the hair on your butt goes grey, then retire and start waiting for death by busying yourself with fishing etc.
the "get a life" jargon idiocy seems to be heavily used in u.s.. what the fuck that is, whats the definiton of a 'life', i really do not understand as a european. you people sure have many stupid stereotypes for any kind of shit.
not only its an unnecessary addition to the frontend just for 'coolness', but also it creates huge problems in regard to your code getting hampered by various security settings in clients' computers. you have to run much more tests with any ajax loaded page than a php/mysql or asp/mssql or cgi/anysql page, to ensure that it will not be shunned by any major security software and whatnot. client side coding is always a problem. something that can be used to do some ui on client side can be used to do malicious stuff. server side heavy scripting with popular scripting languages (php, cgi, asp, you name it) and then sending a totally compiled and ready html document to the client is the best way to ensure your page gets viewed by anyone, everyone.
also the pushing of the unnecessary xml stuff is annoying many developers.
law prevails. legally registrars are doing nothing wrong, they are sticking by the laws where they are incorporated and sticking with icann rules too. its the abusers that are abusing the system in places that they can, and you have to proceed with that country's law against it, or international laws, or wto rules. else, you cant go to a registrar and close them down because 'some guys are spamming through some domains in cape verde islands'. its seems that you have a limited understanding of law. i bid you a nice day, and advise you to research some laws on the matter.
Domain tasting can affect people who want to purchase new domain names. It does not affect everyone who intend to use domain names, as you state. People who already own domain names are not affected by domain tasting, since their domains are already registered. you are taking things out of their context here. domain tasting is destructive for someone who needs to purchase domain names. however spam is a minor annoyance for someone using email. you are taking WHOLE internet users and then using that as a sample group. it is wrong. with your logic someone can take 7 billion population on earth and argue that nothing on the internet is a major problem, because internet doesnt involve around 6 billion people. And you are still ignoring the fact that the total portion of internet users looking to purchase new domain names is minuscule in comparison to the total number of people who use email and receive spam. look above Furthermore, the cost of domain tasting is not felt by the majority of internet users. Internet users do not suffer any appreciable expense as a result of the small portion of users that are impacted by domain tasting. look above again. On the other hand, every user on the internet is paying an indirect cost (in one way or another) for spam. again a narrow, one sided look. many sites, communities, services, businesses are not able to reach who would be needing/using them easily because of domain tasters. a national motorbike enthusiast organization having to have to buy a particularnationmotorenthusiasts.in or
much more people are affected by mosquitoes than spam. or domain tasting. yet, we are not proceeding to drench every lake and pond and stillwater around the world.
because mosquito problem is a minor annoyance. it is a problem only in countries where diseases that are carried around by them still exist. for the rest of the world, its a minor annoyance.
same goes for spam and domain tasting. spam is a minor annoyance that you have to delete 5 to 10 spam/junk emails on average if you are using a decent service. most of them readily end up in junk boxes anyway, and for the mega corporations that provide such services bandwidth and the filtering hardware is not a major problem. if they were, they would act on it long ago. some even using this to sell anti spam services.
compared to spam, domain tasting affects anyone who intend to use domain names. for a small business, not being able to get a domain name to represent its business or its business name means much more than someone having to delete 10 spam from his/her email every day, or a mega corp that is paying a few percent extra bandwidth costs over spam. it can make an online business, or not.