Even in times when discoveries exploded in late 1800s, it was a matter of 'national' pride and s/he who got sponsored by governments got the boon and get their names on history annals.
today its even worse with all the private colleges, funded universities, 'foundations', and government projects about.
Science has grown to be an extension of the governing body, just like church was in older times - they are now telling us what to believe, what to not.
check it - japanese and chinese are very successful in replicating/imitating things, miniaturizing them, and so on. they have incredible attention to detail and patience. you can see these in their art and architecture. doing something repetitively endlessly does not deter them.
Tons of once-acquintance, now very close friends who have been met over the internet, clients, colleagues, buddies, communities, relatives are in it.
even if you are thousands of miles away from each other it still creates a feeling of being together. there are times that you feel the need to actually close down all instant messengers in order to feel 'alone'. theres some connection with the people on your list who never message you, you never message them, but you see they coming online and they see you, especially if your lists are 2-3 years old. you still know them, they know you. you talk 2-3 times a year maybe, and small chitchat, however you still are somehow together.
Seriously, microsoft represents the opposite of what made the internet a civilization-wide revolution as of now : Cooperation, Collaboration, Coexistence, Friendly Competition, Sharing, Curiousity, Modesty.
No surprise, considering the roots of this company was formed by 3-4 fledgling young geeks back at 1970s, when the above concepts were in decline since the 60s and materialism&yuppieness&personal achievement and wealth was on the rise into the 80s. These were youngsters then who wanted to hit it big, and hit it good. And due to the nature of the times they have matured in, they have become kinda yuppie geeks, people of the 80es themselves.
1-2 among them, you know who, were much more willing on treading this path and also easy in mind about scratching anything that proved to be a burden, and they scratched their friends/colleagues who they started on the road with. Geekdom was rising then, tech was coming, i.t. was forming, so they got an advantage, they formed juicy business deals while following the path of 'scratch all, hit it big, 'im a material girl'. they crushed and stamped out many competition back then, with the same philosopyh that provided scratching of friends/colleagues. (dos'es era). after some time, when 'deal them, tie them, bring them in the darkness and bind them' policies succeeded with the advent of windows and office, they became real big. ms pWnEd all pcs round the world by then, seemingly. computer meant 'windows' in some countries' non-techie slang.
then the internet came. due to the nature of it, which is a carrier of information, its nature formed on the philosophical properties of 'information' (information in the sense of knowledge, news) - seeking of free flow, no-bars, easy sharing, non-ownership as much as possible, common to all and so on.
microsoft did not realize what the hell this was going to be later. after all, they owned pcs around the world, and it ran on them. more the internet propagated, more pcs would be needed, they calculated probably. they were right it happened as such and also it helped windows sales.
but after all, in all cases of knowledge/information being present, sharing occured, and with the sharing information/knowledge redoubled itself with every passing instant. internet grew huge.
once you set the roots of something, then build a community/company/society around it, it recruits people of similar kind to itself, and bonds with societies/companies/communities of similar kind to it. so, when microsoft woke up to internet, it naturally responded according to its own personality - tried to stamp out competition. we all know netscape/ie thing. they were successful in this too. maybe the last time they succeeded in this. after some time they crushed netscape, internet has grown to a place that was a community/nation by itself and at that time it/(we) have developed a trans-internet society/culture with experience, preference, knowledge, lore, even politics about anything going on in i.t. and internet. at THAT point microsoft stopped winning.
then came the google. it was just compliant with the philosophy over the net - simple, no-evil (as much as possible), up-to-point, non-aggressive, not limiting, cooperative and such. people embraced, and it grew huge.
they mocked google and other companies that followed the new non-yuppie, non-'hit it big' thing, as they were locked in suits of the 80es still. they mocked, but mocks or laughs or bravado are pitiful when the majority of human civilization (as much as the percentage on the internet, which is something huge itself) is going some way and you are not.
so what happened ? they couldnt fit the times, they were not able to fit the people on the net and give them what they needed, some other people did that, the first laughed at them, then belittled them, then mocked them, then announced 'challenge' against them, then tried to imitate them, and then when failed, they started trying to 'diversify'.
While trying to do "cultural" evolution and "revolution" ? She fscked up 3000 year of history that nation had, and no life-term for her while she was alive, and now she is a revolutionary saint eh ?
But, life term for someone who served porn, which is something that describes what around 300 million chinese males and females do every night ?
Since when is slashdot involved in the distribution of microsoft's latest FUD? This story *here* is exactly the kind of thing they want to see happen. Where there no real news to post today?
Since when is slashdot involved in the distribution of microsoft's latest FUD? This story *here* is exactly the kind of thing they want to see happen. Where there no real news to post today?They posted it here so we may bark at it, bark at microsoft, harrass microsoft interests wherever we come upon, diminish microsoft's presence in our modern world and so on.
BEFORE you push such hardware/software out, its remedy will be already being downloaded for hundreds of thousands via p2p.
fucking morons. you still havent been able to understand it - you cant control INFORMATION.
Ill speak rather philosophically so that some clueless b.a. graduates at microsoft maybe might be able to understand what is going on :
By the esoteric nature of it, information/knowledge WANTS and NEEDS FREE flow, and it flourishes and grows in such an environment. If the environment is not as such, it CREATES it, choosing the vessels offering it. You cant build a business on profiting from information, yet still STUPIDLY try to control it - the more you control, it, being like a fluid, will find more complicated methods to travel/propagate, the more complicated measures you take, the more complicated and unmanageable your situation will become.
Check open source community. check HOW people that are thousands of kilometers apart, with totally different agendas, can work on the same thing, and work efficiently, and create top-notch stuff, and fluorish.
check the state of microsoft - with zillions of $ and representatives/branchesin almost EVERY country, you are still unable to cope with any situation rising in any front, trying to imitate other companies (google, yahoo, others), and trying to resort to medieval-like control schemes.
HEY GATES, BALMER !!!
This is what happens when geeks, who have invented and built this information/internet revolution leaves the running of their corporations to clueless, number-minded BA graduates. You have done a big mistake by hiring crapload of yuppies with the intent to do 'business' in a totally different area, even dimension, they do not have a clue about.
check google, check yourselves. youre taking a head dive. no need to even invent such control schemes on music, video and crap, probably 3-4 years later google and the like is going to start restoring and playing them for us wherever, however we want.
make your choice - you either get on the train, or get under it.
Russia's current president is an ex kgb president. he is a thug, as well as the big-money who is now running the country are mobs, mafia and thugs, who are suppressing russian people and being harmful not only to russian citizens and to the world.
i see russia more dangerous than north korea while mafia placed presidents/governments, especially ones with kgb or such background at the helm.
linux is very well supported by phletora of web hosting aiding applications to the extent that it makes administration too easy. the efficiency you gain is much more worth in terms not having to spend extra paychecks for additional i.t. staff.
going to work, working hard, coming back, tending kids, spending crapload of money in order to be able to send them to college for spending more crapload of money for college fees so that they can work hard like crap and restart the cycle again, paying crapload of taxes and insurance, fees and stamps so that the government which is populated by your generation can use it in greasing the palms of the 'supporters' in the big-money circles, who are, not surprisingly, again are from your generation, wars, international struggles and issues, degradation of individual rights and free speech, police abuse, harrassment and so on, and only to die in a hospital bed after the hospital investors have exploited our hard-earned-and-paid health funds ?
yea. we should have stuck to this 'reality' and worked like slaves so all could be better. and the crappy generation that you are a member of, a generation which have created this modern slavery system surprisingly under seemingly democratic laws and constitutions which seem to be based on 'equality' and anything free.
Im in a country that is based between europe and middle east, we have a few non-latin characters in the alphabet, still it creates problems when conferring domain names.
no wonder the middle east (arabic) countries are especially wanting this, because the majority of the inexperienced internet users there will be more likely to easily use these domain names, hence the sites using those domains will be greater incentive for controlling what they see, because these domains will be under their control nationally.
not only this, but we as it people will be very unwilling to change all our software to adapt with the new situation because of the horrible development/testing/implementation involved, and hence wont be accepting these domains as valid in our network traffic, which will create a second internet which is as described above, less free.
they are already known, their quirks and strong points are known, vulnerabilities known, things to do and not to do on them known.
the office software circle havent been providing any revolutionary stuff in regard to features for a long time, so why undertake the period/downtime of adaptation to new software for its bells & whistles.
The advocates (zealots?) wouldn't be the target market. MS would market it to the MCSEs and other who are MS-centric as 'Linux Done Right', offer full MS support, ease of installation and a sole-source supplier (MS themselves).
That would bring their fanatics more close to linux, and then it will be a little step to hop into free linux community.
very foolish, for a company which made its investment in closed circle principles.
you are missing the point here. nintendo and sony are different companies.
sony has a very long time behind it with branches in many sectors. and huge resources. its like general motors before they have seperated their divisions in order to be flexible.
By "goods/services", do you mean music/movies in general, or one particular song/movie?
It is a logic that applies to anything in general.
I'm not aware that they have a monopoly on making movies or music. They do have an ugly lock on certain distribution channels because of their scale; it's hard to get your independent band on the radio or your indie film in the theater. I'd like to see that broken, but it's never been easy to get people to take notice of your art.
If you cant distribute to a crowd large enough, there is little profit in movie or music making. hence much movies carry the same logo at start dont they ?
As for a particular song/movie, yes, they do have a monopoly on that, but doesn't that seem reasonable?
no it isnt.
it is not only recent hype/modern songs we are talking about, the same monopoly/copyright applies to humanity heritage level creations, classics and such. big companies who hold sway over these do never distribute them to where there is no profit. hence a great majority of humanity is living without access to those.
and a negligible amount of money goes into artists' pockets.
When you have an uncontested (or in this case only pathetically contestable) monopoly over distribution of goods/services in a market, it means you have effectively nullified any competition.
worse in the case of this monopoly being due to huge resources & connections having gathered in one party with competition having pitiful resources - which makes it totally legal and 'compliant' with free market principles.
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It is, if it is done intentionally to put fear into people's minds. And it is.
Even in times when discoveries exploded in late 1800s, it was a matter of 'national' pride and s/he who got sponsored by governments got the boon and get their names on history annals.
today its even worse with all the private colleges, funded universities, 'foundations', and government projects about.
Science has grown to be an extension of the governing body, just like church was in older times - they are now telling us what to believe, what to not.
nay im sure it has some cultural factor in it.
check it - japanese and chinese are very successful in replicating/imitating things, miniaturizing them, and so on. they have incredible attention to detail and patience. you can see these in their art and architecture. doing something repetitively endlessly does not deter them.
no. i even did not went past examining a few screenshots on the web.
Impossible. Internet is my lifeline.
Tons of once-acquintance, now very close friends who have been met over the internet, clients, colleagues, buddies, communities, relatives are in it.
even if you are thousands of miles away from each other it still creates a feeling of being together. there are times that you feel the need to actually close down all instant messengers in order to feel 'alone'. theres some connection with the people on your list who never message you, you never message them, but you see they coming online and they see you, especially if your lists are 2-3 years old. you still know them, they know you. you talk 2-3 times a year maybe, and small chitchat, however you still are somehow together.
You need to eat. There are 3 choices ; Shit, Mud, Grass. You choose grass.
This is as simple as that. More choice on which shit you will have to eat, is better than eating shit without any control.
at least i can choose which crap to watch here, and whenever i want.
i have 50 channels on cable here. i watch 3 of them, only at times.
that are running among in all channels. Why watch crap, whereas on internet you can choose what you view on what hour ?
Maybe because of their recent hardline communist past, they can do the same thing over and over again without getting bored.
we cant farm/grind like chinese do in wow. hell no.
Seriously, microsoft represents the opposite of what made the internet a civilization-wide revolution as of now : Cooperation, Collaboration, Coexistence, Friendly Competition, Sharing, Curiousity, Modesty.
No surprise, considering the roots of this company was formed by 3-4 fledgling young geeks back at 1970s, when the above concepts were in decline since the 60s and materialism&yuppieness&personal achievement and wealth was on the rise into the 80s. These were youngsters then who wanted to hit it big, and hit it good. And due to the nature of the times they have matured in, they have become kinda yuppie geeks, people of the 80es themselves.
1-2 among them, you know who, were much more willing on treading this path and also easy in mind about scratching anything that proved to be a burden, and they scratched their friends/colleagues who they started on the road with. Geekdom was rising then, tech was coming, i.t. was forming, so they got an advantage, they formed juicy business deals while following the path of 'scratch all, hit it big, 'im a material girl'. they crushed and stamped out many competition back then, with the same philosopyh that provided scratching of friends/colleagues. (dos'es era). after some time, when 'deal them, tie them, bring them in the darkness and bind them' policies succeeded with the advent of windows and office, they became real big. ms pWnEd all pcs round the world by then, seemingly. computer meant 'windows' in some countries' non-techie slang.
then the internet came. due to the nature of it, which is a carrier of information, its nature formed on the philosophical properties of 'information' (information in the sense of knowledge, news) - seeking of free flow, no-bars, easy sharing, non-ownership as much as possible, common to all and so on.
microsoft did not realize what the hell this was going to be later. after all, they owned pcs around the world, and it ran on them. more the internet propagated, more pcs would be needed, they calculated probably. they were right it happened as such and also it helped windows sales.
but after all, in all cases of knowledge/information being present, sharing occured, and with the sharing information/knowledge redoubled itself with every passing instant. internet grew huge.
once you set the roots of something, then build a community/company/society around it, it recruits people of similar kind to itself, and bonds with societies/companies/communities of similar kind to it. so, when microsoft woke up to internet, it naturally responded according to its own personality - tried to stamp out competition. we all know netscape/ie thing. they were successful in this too. maybe the last time they succeeded in this. after some time they crushed netscape, internet has grown to a place that was a community/nation by itself and at that time it/(we) have developed a trans-internet society/culture with experience, preference, knowledge, lore, even politics about anything going on in i.t. and internet. at THAT point microsoft stopped winning.
then came the google. it was just compliant with the philosophy over the net - simple, no-evil (as much as possible), up-to-point, non-aggressive, not limiting, cooperative and such. people embraced, and it grew huge.
they mocked google and other companies that followed the new non-yuppie, non-'hit it big' thing, as they were locked in suits of the 80es still. they mocked, but mocks or laughs or bravado are pitiful when the majority of human civilization (as much as the percentage on the internet, which is something huge itself) is going some way and you are not.
so what happened ? they couldnt fit the times, they were not able to fit the people on the net and give them what they needed, some other people did that, the first laughed at them, then belittled them, then mocked them, then announced 'challenge' against them, then tried to imitate them, and then when failed, they started trying to 'diversify'.
they will reach NO
While trying to do "cultural" evolution and "revolution" ? She fscked up 3000 year of history that nation had, and no life-term for her while she was alive, and now she is a revolutionary saint eh ?
But, life term for someone who served porn, which is something that describes what around 300 million chinese males and females do every night ?
Since when is slashdot involved in the distribution of microsoft's latest FUD? This story *here* is exactly the kind of thing they want to see happen. Where there no real news to post today? Since when is slashdot involved in the distribution of microsoft's latest FUD? This story *here* is exactly the kind of thing they want to see happen. Where there no real news to post today?They posted it here so we may bark at it, bark at microsoft, harrass microsoft interests wherever we come upon, diminish microsoft's presence in our modern world and so on.
and thats exactly what we are going to do.
about this issue eh ?
BEFORE you push such hardware/software out, its remedy will be already being downloaded for hundreds of thousands via p2p.
fucking morons. you still havent been able to understand it - you cant control INFORMATION.
Ill speak rather philosophically so that some clueless b.a. graduates at microsoft maybe might be able to understand what is going on :
By the esoteric nature of it, information/knowledge WANTS and NEEDS FREE flow, and it flourishes and grows in such an environment. If the environment is not as such, it CREATES it, choosing the vessels offering it. You cant build a business on profiting from information, yet still STUPIDLY try to control it - the more you control, it, being like a fluid, will find more complicated methods to travel/propagate, the more complicated measures you take, the more complicated and unmanageable your situation will become.
Check open source community. check HOW people that are thousands of kilometers apart, with totally different agendas, can work on the same thing, and work efficiently, and create top-notch stuff, and fluorish.
check the state of microsoft - with zillions of $ and representatives/branchesin almost EVERY country, you are still unable to cope with any situation rising in any front, trying to imitate other companies (google, yahoo, others), and trying to resort to medieval-like control schemes.
HEY GATES, BALMER !!!
This is what happens when geeks, who have invented and built this information/internet revolution leaves the running of their corporations to clueless, number-minded BA graduates. You have done a big mistake by hiring crapload of yuppies with the intent to do 'business' in a totally different area, even dimension, they do not have a clue about.
check google, check yourselves. youre taking a head dive. no need to even invent such control schemes on music, video and crap, probably 3-4 years later google and the like is going to start restoring and playing them for us wherever, however we want.
make your choice - you either get on the train, or get under it.
Russia's current president is an ex kgb president. he is a thug, as well as the big-money who is now running the country are mobs, mafia and thugs, who are suppressing russian people and being harmful not only to russian citizens and to the world.
i see russia more dangerous than north korea while mafia placed presidents/governments, especially ones with kgb or such background at the helm.
The teachers' union is now trying to get all personal electronic devices banned from all schools in Western Quebec.
So that teachers will be able to yell at each other, beat children without noone seeing, maybe some molest them and so on ?
so that things will stay hidden ?
I will never listen to any babbling about 'childcare','child upbringing','good parenting','good teaching' crapola from any teacher from now on.
and thats it.
linux is very well supported by phletora of web hosting aiding applications to the extent that it makes administration too easy. the efficiency you gain is much more worth in terms not having to spend extra paychecks for additional i.t. staff.
"Method of using the method of strongly straining the waist muscles in order to help turd excretion"
"Method of dissolving a solid dissolvable material in water utilizing the method of mixing the fluid and solid with a tool"
"Method of moving a finger back and forth and applying limited pressure, thereby removing an itch in a body part which has been itching"
and so on.
... for us :
going to work, working hard, coming back, tending kids, spending crapload of money in order to be able to send them to college for spending more crapload of money for college fees so that they can work hard like crap and restart the cycle again, paying crapload of taxes and insurance, fees and stamps so that the government which is populated by your generation can use it in greasing the palms of the 'supporters' in the big-money circles, who are, not surprisingly, again are from your generation, wars, international struggles and issues, degradation of individual rights and free speech, police abuse, harrassment and so on, and only to die in a hospital bed after the hospital investors have exploited our hard-earned-and-paid health funds ?
yea. we should have stuck to this 'reality' and worked like slaves so all could be better. and the crappy generation that you are a member of, a generation which have created this modern slavery system surprisingly under seemingly democratic laws and constitutions which seem to be based on 'equality' and anything free.
fuck your reality. we are inventing our own.
Im in a country that is based between europe and middle east, we have a few non-latin characters in the alphabet, still it creates problems when conferring domain names.
no wonder the middle east (arabic) countries are especially wanting this, because the majority of the inexperienced internet users there will be more likely to easily use these domain names, hence the sites using those domains will be greater incentive for controlling what they see, because these domains will be under their control nationally.
not only this, but we as it people will be very unwilling to change all our software to adapt with the new situation because of the horrible development/testing/implementation involved, and hence wont be accepting these domains as valid in our network traffic, which will create a second internet which is as described above, less free.
this should not be allowed.
and that is, because, they are good enough !
doh.
they are already known, their quirks and strong points are known, vulnerabilities known, things to do and not to do on them known.
the office software circle havent been providing any revolutionary stuff in regard to features for a long time, so why undertake the period/downtime of adaptation to new software for its bells & whistles.
The advocates (zealots?) wouldn't be the target market. MS would market it to the MCSEs and other who are MS-centric as 'Linux Done Right', offer full MS support, ease of installation and a sole-source supplier (MS themselves).
That would bring their fanatics more close to linux, and then it will be a little step to hop into free linux community.
very foolish, for a company which made its investment in closed circle principles.
you are missing the point here. nintendo and sony are different companies.
sony has a very long time behind it with branches in many sectors. and huge resources. its like general motors before they have seperated their divisions in order to be flexible.
the were well able to put ps3s in high supply.
By "goods/services", do you mean music/movies in general, or one particular song/movie?
It is a logic that applies to anything in general.
I'm not aware that they have a monopoly on making movies or music. They do have an ugly lock on certain distribution channels because of their scale; it's hard to get your independent band on the radio or your indie film in the theater. I'd like to see that broken, but it's never been easy to get people to take notice of your art.
If you cant distribute to a crowd large enough, there is little profit in movie or music making. hence much movies carry the same logo at start dont they ?
As for a particular song/movie, yes, they do have a monopoly on that, but doesn't that seem reasonable?
no it isnt.
it is not only recent hype/modern songs we are talking about, the same monopoly/copyright applies to humanity heritage level creations, classics and such. big companies who hold sway over these do never distribute them to where there is no profit. hence a great majority of humanity is living without access to those.
and a negligible amount of money goes into artists' pockets.
apparently you failed to see the point.
introduction of new predators into a food chain changes the whole chain.
When you have an uncontested (or in this case only pathetically contestable) monopoly over distribution of goods/services in a market, it means you have effectively nullified any competition.
worse in the case of this monopoly being due to huge resources & connections having gathered in one party with competition having pitiful resources - which makes it totally legal and 'compliant' with free market principles.