First, it would be pretty tough to separate that from MS as they are known as a successful company, not a designer/provider of great products. Greed and market domination are the only thing that have driven MS for the last few years; attempts at buying the video game and now the digital media player market drive that point home. MS doesn't even know what business they are in currently, just that they have enough cash to disrupt almost any market.
My father perceives Windows as a good product because Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, not because Windows is a well designed piece of software. Second, one cannot forget that the success they have has often been obtained through (at the very least) questionable means; if we are going to start running the U.S. government as a business the last person we should put in the lead is a convicted monopolist with a lengthy history of stealing ideas instead of innovating.
Windows isn't every where and MS corporate logo feces doesn't grace every product category because people really love great MS products. MS and Windows are everywhere because they strong armed the fledgling PC market and used to profits the (at least attempt) to buy other product categories and markets. We don't need a morally bankrupt businessman to replace the current crop of morally bankrupt professional politicians and business people already in place in Washington. While I can appreciate the philanthropist Bill Gates, I cannot forget that all the "giving" came at the price of lost innovation, criminal conduct and the success of other people and companies who didn't lose on a level playing field.
Pay attention, if the iPhone integrates an iPod and can drag 25% of current iPod owners over it shifts the media player market. The cell carriers haven't managed it yet because all of the media phones have been meh at best, but the iPhone is likely to be the right balance of features, looks and the all important cool factor. The nano is by far the most popular iPod so it is clear the majority of people want small and most of those same people own cell phones. If you suddenly re-focus everyones attention on the idea that a stand alone device is dead it throws a wrench in MS initial plans.
Apple punishes partners pretty seriously for leaking this much info this early, I call shens... I think there is an iPhone out there in testing, but I'd be shocked if we see it at the same MacWorld as iTV, Leopard and a very likely Mac Pro refresh. Be better to hang on to this as an ace in the hole if the Zune got some market traction.
Perhaps it was the suggestion that people take responsibility for their surfing habits? You can blame IE but my wife uses it all day long and doesn't have any porn or spyware on here PC, so at least part of the blame for IEs issue has to lie with user habits and knowledge. But I know it's not popular to say things like that arond here.
It is pretty easy to avoid porn if you don't want it, I'm always amused when a relative wants me to scrape all the spyware off their XP box and I suggest this could be avoided if they would stay off the porn. They act all indignant and confused until I pull up their IE history and look through their documents and find the videos they save.
Product placement in the movies, advertising within video game, every public gathering space smeared with corporate logos; there is no limit to what corporations have bought their way in to.
Up until election day last week the company that employs me sent emails every day to advise me on how I should vote to best impact the company's wishes. Every fall I endure coercion to give to United Way, including a meeting for those of us who opt out getting a special "sit down" to help us understand why it is important. Every spring I am "encouraged" to participate in the company sponsored "walk for this" or "pledge for that". Note that company policy strictly prohibits me from visiting political web sites, handing out political infromation, engaging in excessive political/social/religious debate or soliciting for any charity on company time or property.
I can no longer refuse company provided health insurance without providing written proof that I get some coverage from my spouses employer? Alcohol is now banned from the company "holiday" party because the company wants to shield itself from any risk, and of course protect our health as well.
Some of you will ask why I stay; simple answer, the pay check is fat and the work somewhat engaging. If either of those change, I am out of here, but for the time being... After 20 years of working I have come to the conclusion that all large companies act like this, and while some idealist will pop in and tell me to go work for a small company; mega-corp is where the money is for the most part.
They still are, this isn't aimed at average desktop usage, RTFA.
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Try to focus on reality, it is usually pretty clear when someone is just posting something positive versus laying some fresh astroturf.
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has been very heavily promoted via astro-turfing. Every BETA and RC release of Vista was followed within an hour or so with 2-4 articles explaining why it was great and apologizing for it's lack of features. Some were from legit news outlets, others fan sites and blogs, but the quantity and timing felt forced to me. I see the same thing with Zune; I keep seeing articles telling me it's an iPod killer but then explaining why it's deficiencies are not only acceptable, but a benefit to me as a consumer??
I think this will work with the OS as poeple don't really try to understand how their PC works, but I question this dethroning the simplicity and popularity of the iPod and iTMS combo.
I will also point out the obvious that MS has seeded quite a few landscapers here on Slashdot lately, but I'm sure one will come along soon and prove my point...
The truth is absolutely opposite of what your first sentence states, the vast majority of Vista installs will come via new machines. Retail box sales are a distant second and OEM licenses from places like Newegg are third. True that OEMs like HP and Acer don't pay retail, but you have no clue what they are paying this round.
sell a whole lot of Zunes for this to be relevant when Apple's contract comes back up. MS is a joke when it comes to consumer issues, showing once again all of their media products are about protecting greedy publishers first and user convenience somewhere much further down the list.
I wish I could say you wrong, but that is fairly accurate. I work in the evilest of empires (I.T. for the insurance industry) and while my company is profitable this year (up over last year in fact), the guys who make every decision based on driving the stock price have decided the numbers aren't in the right categories. So they have declared this year a loser, even without those pesky hurricanes and billions in claims???
-Most people are copying those tunes to their iPod, check the marketshare numbers, so no problem there
-The iMovie issue was resolved a while ago, I can drag iTMS tracks into iMovie with no issue, just did it. It does break on occasion when iTunes or QuickTime get updated, but it always gets fixed.
-Again, not worried about FreeBSD users as they don't represent the vast majority of computer users, and if your still on Win 98 not being able to use DRMd music is the least of your problems...
-Considering how many factory CDs come with copy protection now, I don't see what you have gained?
YMMV, but most of what you site does not impact the majority of users...
the average poster on Slashdot. Peter Janner please meet the iTunes Music Store, iTMS, please meet out of touch guy.
The majority of people have no issue with DRM as long as it doesn't seriously inconvenience them in day to day use. The record companies aren't going away as they control the means to shelf space, both at retail and even on the Internet. There simply aren't enough venues to support every band out there, the whole idea that every band will make it's living off live performances is laughable if you actually know anything about the music business.
This is a stale argument, you could certainly build a PC cheaper but I doubt you could buy a comparable OEM PC any cheaper than an iMac. When people compare apples to Apples (pun proudly intended) properly the Apple is at least equal to if not lower in price. Take a Dell XPS 200 and compare it to the 20" iMac or an HP S7600Y against a Mac mini Core Duo, factor in iLife and OS X and there is little room for debate.
That useless attempt at humor aside, PayPal has gone from zero consumer protection and zero seller protection to moderate consumer protection and now sellers have virtually no rights. I would not condone this kind of thing, but for the handful tha have lost large sums of money this isn't a huge shock to read. People do messed up stuff over large sums of cash and PayPal already knows this. Probably shouldn't be that easy to get that close to PayPal HQ either.
I would by no means debate your techncal reasoning, but the reason Apple thinks of these things as worth protecting is because the vast majority of users don't find using locate in a terminal window a better method. I might also add that if you take advantage of the metadata in apps like iPhoto, iMovie and even Pages you will find Spotlight can be pretty useful, but you do have to at least slightly adjust your work flow.
And honestly,unless your Mac is pretty old the Dock is hardly that massive of a resource hog.
Hardly a cheap shot really, if the OS wasn't such an open door this wouldn't be possible. I dock a poratble hard drive and get an exploit? Not a single prompt from the OS that something is going on? An application asserts itself as a start up process with zero sanity check? If Windows treated this properly it wouldn't try to manipulate files on removable media with no input from the user. If someone could craft an auto-executing file for other OSs, on OS X it would ask me for a password at least and name the process in question; Linux would do the same thing, or just fail silently. Doesn't happen on any other platform, it is a giant shortcoming of Windows as a platform. Stuff like this was supposed to be resolved in SP2.
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First, it would be pretty tough to separate that from MS as they are known as a successful company, not a designer/provider of great products. Greed and market domination are the only thing that have driven MS for the last few years; attempts at buying the video game and now the digital media player market drive that point home. MS doesn't even know what business they are in currently, just that they have enough cash to disrupt almost any market.
My father perceives Windows as a good product because Bill Gates is the richest man in the world, not because Windows is a well designed piece of software. Second, one cannot forget that the success they have has often been obtained through (at the very least) questionable means; if we are going to start running the U.S. government as a business the last person we should put in the lead is a convicted monopolist with a lengthy history of stealing ideas instead of innovating.
Windows isn't every where and MS corporate logo feces doesn't grace every product category because people really love great MS products. MS and Windows are everywhere because they strong armed the fledgling PC market and used to profits the (at least attempt) to buy other product categories and markets. We don't need a morally bankrupt businessman to replace the current crop of morally bankrupt professional politicians and business people already in place in Washington. While I can appreciate the philanthropist Bill Gates, I cannot forget that all the "giving" came at the price of lost innovation, criminal conduct and the success of other people and companies who didn't lose on a level playing field.
Pay attention, if the iPhone integrates an iPod and can drag 25% of current iPod owners over it shifts the media player market. The cell carriers haven't managed it yet because all of the media phones have been meh at best, but the iPhone is likely to be the right balance of features, looks and the all important cool factor. The nano is by far the most popular iPod so it is clear the majority of people want small and most of those same people own cell phones. If you suddenly re-focus everyones attention on the idea that a stand alone device is dead it throws a wrench in MS initial plans.
Apple punishes partners pretty seriously for leaking this much info this early, I call shens... I think there is an iPhone out there in testing, but I'd be shocked if we see it at the same MacWorld as iTV, Leopard and a very likely Mac Pro refresh. Be better to hang on to this as an ace in the hole if the Zune got some market traction.
Perhaps it was the suggestion that people take responsibility for their surfing habits? You can blame IE but my wife uses it all day long and doesn't have any porn or spyware on here PC, so at least part of the blame for IEs issue has to lie with user habits and knowledge. But I know it's not popular to say things like that arond here.
I think you find it more common than not in very large companies...
How is this a troll? You guys really need some kind of quiz or aptitude test before you just hand out mod points.
It is pretty easy to avoid porn if you don't want it, I'm always amused when a relative wants me to scrape all the spyware off their XP box and I suggest this could be avoided if they would stay off the porn. They act all indignant and confused until I pull up their IE history and look through their documents and find the videos they save.
Up until election day last week the company that employs me sent emails every day to advise me on how I should vote to best impact the company's wishes. Every fall I endure coercion to give to United Way, including a meeting for those of us who opt out getting a special "sit down" to help us understand why it is important. Every spring I am "encouraged" to participate in the company sponsored "walk for this" or "pledge for that". Note that company policy strictly prohibits me from visiting political web sites, handing out political infromation, engaging in excessive political/social/religious debate or soliciting for any charity on company time or property.
I can no longer refuse company provided health insurance without providing written proof that I get some coverage from my spouses employer? Alcohol is now banned from the company "holiday" party because the company wants to shield itself from any risk, and of course protect our health as well.
Some of you will ask why I stay; simple answer, the pay check is fat and the work somewhat engaging. If either of those change, I am out of here, but for the time being... After 20 years of working I have come to the conclusion that all large companies act like this, and while some idealist will pop in and tell me to go work for a small company; mega-corp is where the money is for the most part.
I wish T.V. was the only problem....
They still are, this isn't aimed at average desktop usage, RTFA.
Try to focus on reality, it is usually pretty clear when someone is just posting something positive versus laying some fresh astroturf.
I think this will work with the OS as poeple don't really try to understand how their PC works, but I question this dethroning the simplicity and popularity of the iPod and iTMS combo.
I will also point out the obvious that MS has seeded quite a few landscapers here on Slashdot lately, but I'm sure one will come along soon and prove my point...
The truth is absolutely opposite of what your first sentence states, the vast majority of Vista installs will come via new machines. Retail box sales are a distant second and OEM licenses from places like Newegg are third. True that OEMs like HP and Acer don't pay retail, but you have no clue what they are paying this round.
I'm starting to think Microoft might not have my best interest at heart?
sell a whole lot of Zunes for this to be relevant when Apple's contract comes back up. MS is a joke when it comes to consumer issues, showing once again all of their media products are about protecting greedy publishers first and user convenience somewhere much further down the list.
I wish I could say you wrong, but that is fairly accurate. I work in the evilest of empires (I.T. for the insurance industry) and while my company is profitable this year (up over last year in fact), the guys who make every decision based on driving the stock price have decided the numbers aren't in the right categories. So they have declared this year a loser, even without those pesky hurricanes and billions in claims???
-Most people are copying those tunes to their iPod, check the marketshare numbers, so no problem there
-The iMovie issue was resolved a while ago, I can drag iTMS tracks into iMovie with no issue, just did it. It does break on occasion when iTunes or QuickTime get updated, but it always gets fixed.
-Again, not worried about FreeBSD users as they don't represent the vast majority of computer users, and if your still on Win 98 not being able to use DRMd music is the least of your problems...
-Considering how many factory CDs come with copy protection now, I don't see what you have gained?
YMMV, but most of what you site does not impact the majority of users...
The majority of people have no issue with DRM as long as it doesn't seriously inconvenience them in day to day use. The record companies aren't going away as they control the means to shelf space, both at retail and even on the Internet. There simply aren't enough venues to support every band out there, the whole idea that every band will make it's living off live performances is laughable if you actually know anything about the music business.
This is a stale argument, you could certainly build a PC cheaper but I doubt you could buy a comparable OEM PC any cheaper than an iMac. When people compare apples to Apples (pun proudly intended) properly the Apple is at least equal to if not lower in price. Take a Dell XPS 200 and compare it to the 20" iMac or an HP S7600Y against a Mac mini Core Duo, factor in iLife and OS X and there is little room for debate.
Windows people are sorry, I'd be sorry too if my OS was always playing catch up to OS X...
That useless attempt at humor aside, PayPal has gone from zero consumer protection and zero seller protection to moderate consumer protection and now sellers have virtually no rights. I would not condone this kind of thing, but for the handful tha have lost large sums of money this isn't a huge shock to read. People do messed up stuff over large sums of cash and PayPal already knows this. Probably shouldn't be that easy to get that close to PayPal HQ either.
And honestly,unless your Mac is pretty old the Dock is hardly that massive of a resource hog.
Why would you purposely use IE anyway?
Yea, and anyone who has used a product my Symantec or MacAfee lately isn't feeling any hint of "reverence" either...
Hardly a cheap shot really, if the OS wasn't such an open door this wouldn't be possible. I dock a poratble hard drive and get an exploit? Not a single prompt from the OS that something is going on? An application asserts itself as a start up process with zero sanity check? If Windows treated this properly it wouldn't try to manipulate files on removable media with no input from the user. If someone could craft an auto-executing file for other OSs, on OS X it would ask me for a password at least and name the process in question; Linux would do the same thing, or just fail silently. Doesn't happen on any other platform, it is a giant shortcoming of Windows as a platform. Stuff like this was supposed to be resolved in SP2.