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Vista Gets Official Release Dates
SlinkySausage writes "Five years, three months and five days after Windows XP made its debut, Microsoft will usher its next-generation OS onto the stage. Microsoft has set November 30 as the release date for Vista (and Office 2007) to business customers and January 30, 2007 as the date for the official launch to consumers and The World At Large."
so soon?
I for one welcome our new vista overlords....
But I liked it better when they called it OS X!
J/K, I'm not gay.
it's just another brick in The W.A.L.
Surely there's a numbering system where this reads "666".
668: Neighbour of the Beast
Haven't I seen this before. I can't remember the details, but I thought they already had this planned out months ago?
Business a.k.a. corporate version will be out before customer version. So this means that everyone will be downloading and using the corporate version long before the home issues comes out.
That implies Linux users get any sex, you're thinking of Mac OS X.
How we know is more important than what we know.
So when's the torrent release date? :)
Unless they're particularly sad gamers who MUST play HALO2
What are you listening to? (http://megamanic.blogetery.com/)
Just in time for Christmas Shopping Season! I'm getting everybody in my family a shiny new End User License Agreement (EULA)! I can't wait for Christmas morning around the tree, when we all get to click "Accept" together! Now, that's what I call quality family time.
Now all that has to happen is the Lions win the Super Bowl and find Jimmy Hoffa's body, and the end of the world will be nigh!
How many regular semi-power-user types do you expect will switch to Linux when Vista is revealed as the pile of shit its sure to be? I know I will. Actually I'll probably just stick with XP (a superb OS BTW) for as long as its supported.
No Vista for the holidays.
But: "buyers of Vista-ready Toshiba notebooks preloaded with XP Professional or XP Tablet Edition -- which is just about all of 'em -- will qualify for an upgrade to Vista Business for a meagre $27 'shipping and handling' cost. The uber-OS itself, over five years in the baking, is free."
And here's the best explanation I've found regarding how Corporate/Retail keys will work. Note that I didn't say the explanation was simple.
[Fuck Beta]
o0t!
Well, this is the so manyeth announcement from MS about when Longhorn/Vista will be released. I guess that the inclusion of exact dates should give us some more confidence that it will really happen, this time. However, it's still interesting to see how many timeframes and features Microsoft announced that they never lived up to.
Please correct me if I got my facts wrong.
Let me say up front I consider myself computer savvy but definitely not a programmer or an expert. My question to everyone is, why is everyone so upset about how long it's taking for Windows Vista to come out?
As far as I can see, Windows XP, with patches, a firewall and Firefox seems to be working fine. I don't feel the need to upgrade as soon as Vista comes out.
They're late on the deadline they originally set for themselves. But I don't see anyone else losing any sleep over it.
Microsoft sux!
Unseasonably cold temperatures predicted for November 30th in Hell.
on when the first patch will be released, and another for SP1
Somehow, I see this going a little like Apple's surprise price reduction for the iPod just before the Zune came along: Microsoft employees scrambling to hack some last-minute changes into their strategy after hearing what Apple is doing.
So imagine MacWorld just before this January 30 Vista release. Jobs has already shown he's not too afraid to take a stab at Redmond. We all expect some surprise Leopard features that speak for themselves, but expect some intentional jabs as well. Maybe even a TV commercial campaign to steal thunder from the TV campaign Microsoft is sure to launch (because they always do).
Personally, I predict the real show-stopper will be a surprise price reduction from Apple. Seriously, if they knocked Leopard *down* to $99 or something, Microsoft would be looking really bad.
"Microsoft killed my company, I hold a personal grudge. I don't use Microsoft products and neither should you."-JWZ
Hey, I get sex. It may not be with a person but that counts dammit.
Well, maybe in Texas
My turnips listen for the soft cry of your love
Repent the end is extremely fucking nigh
Ouch - Just installed IE7 and WMP11 - the beta's were much better
Just installed the technical refresh for Office 07 - beta 2 had more functionality by default
Guess Vista'll follow suite?
I'm starting to think GNU is the problem with "GNU/Linux" these days.
An insightful, eloquent post. It is rare that such a visionary, non-conformist poster arrives on this page to share their knowledge in the fashion of the remarkable parent poster. Does our love of free speech not demand that every effort is made to make these brilliant words available to all, so that they can be treasured and committed to memory?
Slashdot, I urge you to mod UP.
Think of the children.
The Leopard/Ubuntu update must be coming along a lot faster than expected. I can't wait to delve into all those nifty features Vista has promised over the last few years! That kick ass WinFS addition will surely make my life easier.
indeed.
I like big butts and I cannot lie.
I'm going to take a 6 month sabbatical to meditate on your words. There's just something deeply compelling about what you have to say that fills me with a sense of longing for a truer understanding of this wacky universe of ours.
Thank you fellow scholar. You have changed me.
...manage to beat Duke Nukem Forever.
According to this page, DNF has been in (in)active development for over 8 years...
Does anyone have any details on which flavor of Vista will be made available for university licenses?
Mikey
I've always been the kinda guy to fall for the girl dressed like an eskimo.
So when will the first DirectX 10 hardware be available?
gets teh AIDS for free.
There. Fixed it for you.
By then we should have fedora core 8 or 9 and the animal names tacked on to the ubuntu distro will start getting even wierder.
Development on Duke Nukem Forever reportedly started back around January of 1997. A decade of development, more than two engines' worth of work, and at least three game design documents later, and the end's still nowhere in sight. And I say this as someone who's actually seen a development build of the thing running...
how many people here bashing Vista have actually used it. Why is everyone so up in arms about upgrading? Its only $450. Vista is much better than XP, by far.
I played around with Vista RC1 a bit last week on a spare machine. For the most part, I was actually pretty impressed with the ease of install. Inevitably there were a couple of devices (onboard audio and USB wireless) that it didn't support. However, it seems that the driver model has changed pretty significantly from XP/2000 as these didn't work at all.
So the release date isn't Nov 30, it's when your last hardware vendor releases their Vista drivers.
One of these days I'm moving to Theory - everything works there
Dude, girls love guys with CLI skills. My girlfriend doesn't know what the fuck I do at work (I'm a Linux sysadmin) but when she's always impressed when she sees me "typing in commands." Remember this: if you can set up a VPN and mt-daapd so a girl can access the music on your music share from iTunes anywhere in the world, she will surely love you.
So close!
... my birthdays always suck. If it happens to fall on my b-day, I just don't know what I'll do.
My birthday is December 1st. If they were to wait one more day, my birthday would have been the day the world went to hell.
With my luck, something will go wrong and they will delay it one day.
Thank god there are women in the world who love geeks eh? But try to remember, friend, you and I are the lucky ones. Many young geeks go to bed alone.
How we know is more important than what we know.
"Sufferin' succotash."
I'm so glad MS will let Sony, Disney, Diebold, SCO, HP, and all those other nice folks try out Vista and work out any remaining kinks before home users see it. MS, putting users first!
Intellectual Property is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the mind of man"
"at least it's not for fags. you fucking dick sucking dirty ass faggots."
Dude, you have no sense of direction. Who do you think is on their hands and knees with their pants down when you run Windows? It sure in hell is not Billy Boy. His is on top bitch slapping your ass while yelling, "Who's your daddy!?". Care to rethink your position?
linux!=OSX We in the Open Sores movement get no sex of any kind.
about this new microsoft OS: "Hasta la vista, baby".
guinux
Whenever I get someone comming to me with a problem with their computer I ask them "so you are running windows" They say "Yes" and then I tell them: "Well that's your problem." And then I give them a Kubuntu Live CD because even a windows user should be able to figure out how to use Kubuntu. Seriously why bother with Vista? You can get a better OS that is FREE (LEGALLY free, I should say)and not have to deal with all the bullshit that comes with dealing with Microsoft. I mean it's your money and your computer, but why waste the former to fuck up the latter?
...to be locked out of running my software, playing my music and videos, and generally having my hardware crippled for Christmas. I've been good all year. I've been looking forward to my windows advantage. Why oh why can't I have my "trusted computing" and DRM for Christmas?
These posts express my own personal views, not those of my employer
I wish they just postpone all of vista. The only reason why vista will be used is because major corporations will buy all their computers from Dell, HP, etc. Those computers will house Vista. It will take a couple years before everyone has the operating system. Mainly because people don't want to pay a lot of money for an operating system. There is way more people who buy from venders like Best Buy, CompUSA, Fry's etc. Microsoft has a version of windows for every circumstance you need. You know what? Screw that. Just make one OS with everything in it. All the same damn features as the top of the line Vista. An average person isn't going to know the differences between Home Premium, Vista Enterprise, Vista Business, Vista Home Basic, Vista Ultimate. Shit I don't even know what the hell is the difference (yes I know I can look for it on their website) but in general people don't want to think when it comes to computers. It is too technical, blah blah blah.
The problem is that we just need to STOP buying their damn products. It is easy to say that than to actually do that but for god sakes we could have so much more in an OS. We could have really cool interactive menu systems, we could have media drivin enviroments and I am not talking about shitty ass GUIs I am talking about 3D enviroment desktops. Make things intuitive and faster. I know people want fast times when installing the OS but I would love to see options to not install or to install certain applications. The best thing any one can ever do in software development is make two versions of your software, one light and one full, then you put them into one piece of software. Being able to select which options you want to have on there and which options you don't is just better for everyone. Most the people who build their computers know enough about computers to have options to do shit in the OS. Dell, HP, Gateway, etc. all can have their own installation processes for prebought computers (they could have a drop down menu in the bootup disc for average users and users who want to customize installation). Yes I know linux has some of this stuff already. The problem is linux isn't that user friendly. I know I will probably get slammed for this but it truely isn't intuitive at all. I do admit over the years different distros have made it a lot easier to install but just dealing with hardware issues and drivers, etc. just a nightmare to deal with.
I just want more. I want people to think what you want the future to be like in 10-20 years. What sort of technology do you want? Think of all the cool ideas for a good os would be, think about optimizations in your companies computers, think about gaming and how interactive that is, now think about something like interactive menu systems and real time effects. In 20 years we will amazing technologyy, maybe more doors will open with light particles and we will be able to manipulate light in a way where we could have 3D holograms. The way I see it, is that Vista is just a blockade for all of that. It will only help out the big media corporations and hurt innovation and creativity. I say we hold off as long as we can with out installing vista. Make it as painful as we can for them. If any one is high up in a company, please do not upgrade your systems yet. Wait till crazy haxors begin the crack it open and figure out the system.
Make vista the new ME.
Will this speed up the development of XGL, Compiz, Beryl and likes? I assume they aren't still stable, but i haven't tested them yet.
Who is John Galt?
And when the sales aren't there like they expected, will they attempt to blame piracy?
I'm not hearing too much from companies that they want to upgrade again after just adopting XP in the last couple of years.
Microsoft's final solution to all of their competitors... I mean glitches.
http://www.theregister.com/2006/11/01/vista_delaye d_until_20007/
And I would like welcome every Overlord connected (even remotely) to this wonderous event. I hope to make a lot of money out of it - as much as I made from XP's launch, maybe. Here's to you Bill ! I can hear my cash-register jingling now. OK Jingle Bells it ain't - but it is still jingling
Just one detail you should maybe want to notice, Bill, my friend. This post comes from a Linux machine; my personal machine. And Steve baby, try to do the next one quicker, would you please ! My investment fund you know - it needs your contribution through cooperation. Thanks
How many beans make five, anyhow ?
Do you seriously believe 535 days are enough for such a masterpiece? I expect delays.
Patents Drive Free Software as Hurricanes Drive Construction Industry
3+1+1+2+6=13
Unlucky theories (or excuses from M$ for their tripe their about to release) to follow...
When all is said and done, nothing changes...
Apparently it's obvious to everyone else, since I never see this question asked, but why the wait between businesses and consumers? What's the logic there? I mean, I understand why you would give it to businesses ASAP, but why make the consumers wait---especially until after Christmas? I mean, if it's good enough for businesses, it's good enough for consumers, right?
"May the days be aimless. Let the seasons drift. Do not advance the action according to a plan."
I have to agree with this. I'm a total nerd and my girlfriend's a sexy Asian chick. :D I do think CLI skills impress women :P As long, of course, as you don't look or act like Eric Raymond. :P
Why do businesses get this first? I don't understand. Is there something different between the version to be given to regular consumers and the one that businesses get? Is it not finished or something, but the business clients get a beta version to test? Or is it some sneaky way to milk more money out of people? I honestly don't get it.
Perhaps the answer to the problem of teenagers dropping bricks from motorway and railway bridges is to sue Tetris.
The problem is that when MS set out to develop Vista, they publicly mentioned a whole range of new features that could benefit their customers. Many of these features (WinFS could have been a big business help) have been withdraw since then.
Now, after more than five years, Vista looks like Windows-XP with a shiny new theme, some 'whoopy' features such as Glass, and a lot of hurdles for power users to do what used to be easy and now is hard. Many features require more mouseclicks to get to, cause annoying 'boy-I'm-so-secure-do-you-really-want-to-do-this' popups, and keep you from using fair use rights by tilting toward the entertainment industries everlasting deathgrip on 'their Holy IP'.
Now after more than five years you'd expect a rock-solid OS that has a new, well designed foundation. Not so. I'm speaking from experience when I say that the stability is so-so, the system requirements are ludicrous, and the driver support is mediocre. On that last one, MS blaims the hardware vendors. Maybe so, but appearently those vendors either think it's too hard to write proper Vista drivers, or they are not too convinced that the development investment will help in higher sales...
To Terminate, or not to Terminate, that's the question - SCSIROB
Yeah, all gay people like anal sex. Way to not stereotype.
I already have six fans and a full tray of ice cubes in my drive bay.
Sort of. Using CLI a lot means you're fairly nimble-fingered on the keyboard. Go figure.
How many people can read hex if only you and dead people can read hex?
I'm looking forward to DX10, lower CPU usage (because the UI is run on the GPU), the ability to prioritize I/O (no more 10 fps in games if you move big files around on your computer at the same time), SMB 2.0 (transfers should survive now if the network is disconnected for a moment), virtualized registry (programs run in their own little world = less fudging around with regedit to clean up broken stuff), improved windows APIs (this is mostly for us programmers), improved audio system (ability to mute/adjust sound per application instead), multitasking of GPUs, general bugfixes and improved stability. This was just off the top of my head.
:) are not looking forward to Vista? Aside from the DRM (which will be promptly cracked), that is.
A better question would be why some people (excluding mac & linux users
You are such a biggoted fuckwit it is unreal.
Actually, it's not that simple.
The days of snagging your works (or a friends works) Volume Licence Key are over.
Vista corporate licencing now has the OS pinging a Corporate Licence server which in turn keeps track of how many clients are out there, it then pings MS which greenlights whether that org is still within licencing terms or not. The actual system is a bit more in depth than that, but essentially that's how it works. If the client can't ping the licence server within 90 days, then the client goes into 'reduced functionality mode'.
So even though I would never condone actually hacking the OS, the only option to the pirates is to patch the OS to bypass the Licence Server ping. But I'm sure MS have forseen that and have all manner of checksum systems in place.
-Jar.
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It's true! I've been a Windows power user for years - no relationship with the other sex whatsoever. Then I switched to Linux - still no dice. About two years ago I bought an iBook and now I have a girlfriend.
OS X. It just works.
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
Yep, it was the day you bought those yellow sunglasses. She knew a friend of yours and happened to mention you were hot but it is "just a shame he's gay." Your friend replied "huh? He's not gay, what made you think that?" It was then your girlfriend revealed that she just assumed you liked it from other guys: you have a Mac.
How we know is more important than what we know.
Well, there are two kinds of people who buy Macs:
Firstly, those who wouldn't accept any other computer because it'd break their aura of style. They are usually gay and make their money with Photoshop or Quark Express.
Secondly, the geeks who buy a Mac because it comes with what they describe as a "very sexy Unix". They profit from the Mac breaking their aura of anti-style; owning a Mac sends out a message to normal people saying: "Hey! This guy at least has some sense of style - with some work he might even move out of his mother's basement!" Long-time Mac-owning geeks can be distinguished from recent Mac buyers by the fact that sexuality is present.
An easy way to distinguish between gay graphic designers and Apple geeks (apart from the obvious differences in trendiness) is to ask them about things like "resource bundles", "data forks", "Cocoa" or "xnu". If they start spewing technobabble you can rest assured that you're talking to a geek.
As for me, I still have to find yellow sunglasses that go well with duct tape.
USE HOT GRITS WITH STATUE OF NATALIE PORTMAN (NAKED AND PETRIFIED)
How about a big firework on Nov 29 to celebrate this event?
We could detonate some firecrackers next to the Microsoft building in Redmond.
Precision of the firecrackers being approximately +/- 250m, I'd recommend a distance of 50m to the Microsoft building.
Please, think of the kittens.
Meep.
Now all we need to do is wait until 2010 for hardware that can run it.
You know, there is a difference between trolling and pointing out the flaws in your reasoning. Just saying.
You're not familiar with M$, are you?
For the rest of us, watching M$ is entertaining. They put themselves on a pedestal as an innovator and market leader and yet have consistently pushed substandard crap out the door, using their monopoly position to force piss-poor upgrades upon the user base.
The humour in all of this is that Vista really doesn't contain significant feature improvements - M$ does not improve their products. Rather, it is a blatant effort to bend the user over and drive it home. Refer to WGA, EULA changes, and added DRM - that's the new significant improvement.
Sure, they copy apple and Firefox and add some bloated eye candy as incentive to Jove average user, but most of us can see right through their Aero crap.
Most significantly, they set their own schedule and blew the Christmas season. There are a whole lot of vendors that must work in synchronization to ship this product at a set time. Miss the Christmas season (Beginning Nov 30th) and you miss a hell of a lot of sales!
I've been pondering the reasons for the split release (business first) of Vista. I haven't even bothered "RTFA" on this because I don't think I'd put any stock in their answer anyway. Something tells me they are doing it for a reason they don't really want to admit or discuss. After much consideration I am tossing out the theory that MS wants to use the business market as a "guinea pig" for their new system. This limited initial release will allow the businesses to smoke test the system and shake out the majority of the really nasty problems and allow MS to get a Service Pack 1 developed and ready for the public release of Vista. If they didn't do this, wouldn't the release of Vista create a golden opportunity for someone to write a virus that nukes hundreds of thousands of new Vista users on Day 1? You just know there are dozens of people out there just foaming at the mouth waiting for the main release day. Though only a stupid virus writer would release his work today, surely they would hold it until it had maximum impact. Maybe MS is hoping that they are impatient and consider hitting the business community worthy enough to take the heavy hit?
God forbid my business rely on windows, but if it did, you certainly wouldn't see me with a copy of vista before March.
I work for the Department of Redundancy Department.
I think they are rushing it out the door. They know Apple will release Leopard on Timee and it would really hurt Microsoft if apple Launches 1st than their grand product. Most Enterprise and Crporate business will not upgrade to Vista for at least another year. They have enough trouble winth windows xp as it is. and by the time Regular users install vista, Leopard will be out rocking since day 1.
I think Apple is more organized when launching a new OS , Microsoft is jas noisy as any makle, loud and with bragging rights but has premature ejaculation problems.
It will take vista at least a year to be where its supposed to be after all the bug fixes it has to undergo.
Nom de dieu de putain de bordel de merde de saloperie de connard d encule de ta mere.
Has a release date been set for service pack 1?
/J
I think I'll wait it out a little...
(my experience). KDE doesn't handle disk copies fluidly enough: I do see a lack of responsiveness in the UI when copying large files. It may be becuause of the KIOSlaves being a little too blocking for their needs...
Some good maths you have there.
Instead of sarcasm, let's try this real world scenario;
If your company was foolish enough to pay for Software Assurance, "assuring" you of free OS upgrades for anything MSFT produced for the next 3 years, instead of even buying retail boxed copies of XP Pro, you would have been paying Mr. Gates 3 years for the privilege of renting XP Pro, and paying an additional 27 months of rent, for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
That's why this is a big deal.
(Besides, with all the features they have already ripped out of Vista, in reality you're going to be paying full price - and then some - for what amounts to Windows XP Service Pack 3. Sorry, this is not acceptable.)
Meanwhile, I'll get my Software Assurance from the Ubuntu community; it's better for me, and it's free.
Don't assume that everyone will be downloading a Corp edition. There are plent of people out there that realize their hardware is sub-par, or that the bugs in Vista 1.0 are too likely, or that the anti-piracy measures are still unknown, or many other reasons.
Certainly there will be those that do get a copy that way, but I think that it is going to be a while before Microsoft can claim that even 10% of their users are using Vista (read second half of '07). Why mess up your computer upgrading to something that could be more problems than solutions.
Then there are those of us that know that it is just wrong to use Microsoft products because it depletes the ozone layer, pollutes the water supply, and is contributing to the Green House Effect, so we will use something else (and there are plenty of good choices).
Give a hoot! Don't pollute!
I hope you're right. I've been hoping for years for Microsoft to make a version of Windows that is practicaly un-piratable, yet pretty much required to run modern Windows applications.
Let's see how many people "choose" to stay with Windows when they're paying $100+ for the privledge. The gamer segment alone promises to be interesting, once new games come out that require Vista (DirectX 10?).
I suppose it might drive a lot of new hardware sales at the very least...
Endless arguments over trivial contradictions in books written by ignorant savages to explain thunder in the dark.
But, I gotta say i'm way more interested in samba 4 hitting a stable release then seeing vista ship myself... its something unix really does need...
coincidence?
I THINK NOT!
What about these problems:
There are more, but I just can't think of them right now.
Question everything
Microsoft might do something like that for its own games. Read "This game may only be used on Windows". After the silliness about Vista and virtualization, I would not be surprised.
But they can make that decision only for their own games. I doubt that companies like Valve, ID or Blizzard would adopt that clause. So a DirectX 10 capable WINE would still be attractive, even assuming people care about the EULA.
C - the footgun of programming languages
Next thing you will be telling me that DNF has a release date. Nope, I just don't buy it...
I don't have a microwave. I do, however, have a clock that occasionally cooks shit.
If your woman's erogenous zones are on her keyboard you're either very lucky or you're fucking a computer.
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
Actually, these people may or may not be gay.
There's a whole other class of people who use macs: the people who are too stupid or too afraid to learn anything else. My mother falls into the second category. Our ex-graphic-designer where I work, whose legacy is a dual G5 sitting on my desk and being stupid because OSX is stupid (OSX pisses me off more in a typical day than windows does all week, and yes, I do actual work on both on a daily basis, switching back and forth between them very frequently) falls into the former.
It's interesting to me that OSX is the least-consistent version of MacOS yet. It seems like every application takes a different view of the interface guidelines - even the different Apple programs are different.
With all that said, I used to work for gay.com (The IT department had one bisexual employee and three straights, one of which was me - everyone else in the company was bi or gay AFAIK) and there certainly was a preponderance of macs - it wasn't just the graphic arts department. Unfortunately the macs were consistently the biggest pains in the ass and ate the most of my desktop support time (I was a sort of all-hats MIS guy.)
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
set the controls for the heart of the sun
"I wouldn't say I switched because Vista is a pile of crap, I just like an OS that is updated more than once every 5 years "
I'm genuinely curious about what you consider an "update". Surely you aren't suggesting that XP hasn't been updated in five years.
If we made a list of updates that XP has received, it would be a pretty long list, even if you didn't include security updates in it.
Is your criteria for determining whether or not something has been updated solely based on name change?
Let's see... ... no ... no ... no ... no ... no ... can be run on XP today, so not a "Vista feature" ... again, runs on XP, not a "Vista feature" ... good work, but no, not interesting
- Different UI that doesn't seem obviously better or worse
- Search like Google, GNOME, and Apple offer already
- Sidebar with "Gadgets" similar to existing third-party utils (including such great ones as "Number Puzzle", "Picture Puzzle", and "Egg timer")
- Outlook Express renamed Windows Mail (which is strange because it's their only USENET browser, and so the only thing most of us corporate users will use it for is not mail)
- New graphics for minesweeper and solitaire
- IE7
- Media Player 11
- Windows Firewall is now IPv6 aware
Do I need to go through them all? No, they don't look interesting. The ones that look closest either will be available for XP, or are just fixes for things that were always broken in XP anyway.
Which of those W-acronyms do you think are interesting? Because unless you've been living in Win31 land, they aren't. They're minor fixes and improvements to XP to catch up to areas in which Mac OS X and Linux are ahead of it today -- and no, not because Mac and Linux programmers are so smart (though some are), but simply because they've been releasing new versions for the past 5 years, while Microsoft hasn't.
I've been begging for an answer to my ever-so-simple question for months now. It's so trivial a thought that I'm amazed that i have yet to actually get a response, much less an answer:
Why buy Vista?
DirectX 10 is hardly a selling point, because, as a developer, I see very little that makes it special enough to consider as a target API, and with such a small audience (i.e., one solitary platform with the possibility of porting to XBox 360), I fail to see the point of even giving it a passing glance. Aero Glass is only merely interesting. I use AIGLX on Linux at home and actually turn it off from time to time because Beryl's effects get kinda old after a while (and Compiz is just plain boring). MacOS X has similar OpenGL-accelerated windowing effects, and has had them for quite a while, so it seems little more to me than a passing fad.
All the other benefits and new features that Vista will actually include elude me. In researching the product, I see no reason to even bother looking at Vista for any computer. Yet, I see so many people getting so excited about Vista and all the new stuff it will bring to their systems, that I have to stop and wonder.
So, I am asking, why does anyone want to buy Vista? Why should I consider an upgrade path to Vista? What's so exciting about it? I really want to know! Someone, PLEASE tell me!
grey wolf
LET FORTRAN DIE!
Right around the time that Vista was first announced, Microsoft was in the midst of a big push to move to subscription-based software. This makes a lot of sense to them - they get to keep making more money on existing products. This may or may not be a good thing for their clients. Specifically, if Microsoft puts out a lot of releases, then rather than paying for each one, they only have to pay a yearly maintainence fee.
So, the problem is that people signed up for the yearly fee, because they reasoned that they'd get Vista out of it for much less money than if they had to buy copies. Three years later, I think they're a little pissed that they're still paying yearly for software that they originally bought flat out.
On the bright side, a subscription model may mean higher-quality software from Microsoft, as they can release when it's ready, rather than when it's expedient for business goals. This is one of the reasons cited when people say that open source produces higher-quality code. On the other hand, code that makes programmers happy doesn't necessarily make customers happy, so it's a little bit up in the air. But I think that's the biggest issue.
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Am I the only person that LIKES Windows and would like them to continue doing what they are doing???
I have both Windows and Ubuntu installed on my computer, but I find Windows to be MUCH easier to use. I don't want to spend two hours figuring out how to get my wireless internet adapter working only to find out that the driver doesn't work in my situation. I want to plug my internet adapter in and get wireless internet!
Windows delivers on this. If you don't like Windows, then don't buy it. But I can guarantee you that there are millions of people out there who DON'T want to be sifting through pages of Ubuntu guides just to get functionality out of their hardware.
The kittens are safe, it's the penguins you have to worry about.
The licensing skus are out effective today. Now the media kits probably won't be available until the Nov. 30 release date, this does mean the paper (aka artifical) release date is today. I received notice from D&H about this today and downloaded the MOLPERP pricelist from Microsoft to confirm this. If you want to get the file I mentioned, it is available at https://partner.microsoft.com/download/US/40018463 . You may need to be a Microsoft registered partner to access the file.
"It is not my intent to offend, but if offense is taken, the fault lies with the audience." attributed to Patrick Henry
In this case, 5 years + 3 months + 5 days only =/= 535 base 10, or base anything else, so to try to convert it directly to some other base is fruitless. There are actually (5*365+1) + (31+30+31) + 5 = 1923 days. Sadly, there's not an integer X such that 6X^2 + 6X + 6 = 1923. Even if we try to pick an arbitrary "annum" and "lunum" length, we can't get 6 "anni", 6 "luni" and 6 days out of 1923 if our "anni" and "luni" are of integral day length, since 1923 isn't divisible by 6. BUT...if we define a lunum as 29 days, define an annum as 10 luni, and declare a "leap annum" every other year, then 6 anni + 6 luni + 6 days = 1923. Of course, that would be silly, and a waste of time to calculate, unless you're getting paid for it, like I am.
If it runs so much better why do you need a super computer just to run the fucking OS? You're an asshole who doesn't know shit.
LOL. I was TRYING to be funny. Cry-babies. It's funny that the quote at the bottom of hate comments and such said, "Laugh and the world thinks you're an idiot." Serendipitous, anyway.
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