...That the company (Microsoft) that universally denies, downplays, delays and diddles (sorry, needed another "d" word) regarding every-single-one of their OWN security vulnerabilities (even when they DO allow immediate execution of arbitrary code), has, IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS taken it upon themselves to suddenly act like the world's security cop?
You'd think it was a DRM backdoor in Windows we were talking about!
Now how about the same response time on the 10^7 security holes in every version of Windows, even up through Vista?
If you have the facts on your side, then argue the facts. If the facts aren't on your side, then argue the law. If neither the facts nor the law is on your side, then argue procedure.
Methinks that challenging the Oaths of Office of the Judge falls under the "procedure" category...
What MS's game plan is, IMHO, is to introduce the suppository service, then raise the price of the boxed version until no one can afford to use anything but the suppository version.
Then, they simply keep inching up the suppository fee, year by year, version by version...
The only problem with their plan is, the alternatives are getting as good, and in some ways better than, the "original".
And once Office and Exchange are no longer dominant, can Windows be far behind?
What's with the Firesign Theatre reference? I love TFT, but I don't get what that has to do with the topic...
Also, I don't know if Colossus: The Forbin Project (The movie's full name) used that method; but HARLIE, in the David Gerrold Book "When HARLIE was one", most certainly did.
Get your crowbar out, put it in your wallet, and GET A MAC!
If you recognize that OS X is what your family should be running, then don'tcha think you should support continued development of the project in the only way you can; by purchasing a Mac?
Or do you really believe that OSes come from the OS-Fairy?
I'll bet you didn't even purchase one single copy of OS X, let alone a "Family Pack". Since you said "family", I assume you meant to illegally install OS X on not one, but multiples of your generic white-box shitboxen.
Um, I think 10.5.2 is being seeded to developers for comment. By all accounts, it is something like a 450MB "update"; so give 'em a LITTLE bit of a break on the roll-out schedule. Or would you rather have 10.5.2.1, 10.5.2.2, 10.5.2.2a, 10.5.2.3, 10.5.2.3a, 10.5.2.3ab, etc?
And you do realize that Apple was mercilessly taken to task for the the iMac's removal of the floppy disk (remember floppies? I hardly do!) and the inclusion of USB ports at the expense of RS422/232 serial ports (remember RS232 peripherals? I hardly do!). And now, they are being taken to task for removing the optical drive from the Airbook.
So perhaps, like with launchd, Apple (who really does have decades of *NIX experience. Think A/UX) has actually come up with a third, and obviously viable, option: XNU.
Therefore, a new question suggests itself: Do we really have to have a three-way debate? Micro v. Mono v. XNU (hybrid)???
Um, I said every EXTERNAL [Hard Drive]. That is a far cry from every PERIPHERAL. Having said that, I think that Scanners and video tuners/capture-ers and some printers would also benefit GREATLY by a little Firewire-love.
Yes, I know there are SOME scanners and video tuners/capture-ers that support FW; but not ALL, by any stretch of the imagination.
And, assuming the other Reply-er (Replicant?) stated that the FW "royalty" is about a U.S. Quarter (25 cents), that amounts to the inclusion of about one more glue logic package, or one more Op Amp. In other words, relatively insignificant on any device that sells for more than $50 retail.
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I think such a law would violate the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (involuntary servitude) Anti-Slavery amendment.
BTW, this is the same thing that lawyers that get pulled into being on-the-spot Public Defenders in CIVIL cases use to try to get out of working for free at the Government's behest.
It's more like $20 to add Firewire to a fairly high-volume product.
Fry's (outpost.com) lists the Seagate ST305004FPB1E3-RK 500GB external, with eSATA, Firewire (400) and USB 2.0 for $199.99, and the ST305004FPB1E2-RK, which is the same drive (and I'm sure the same PCB less the FW chip, connector, and a few "passive" components) for only $20 less, which is a far lower price difference, percentage-wise, than the parent postulated.
IMHO, A $20 adder seems fair, considering the cost differential and the lower volumes.
Qute frankly, I think that price differential would shrink to nearly nothing, if they'd just put FW on every external. The USB protocol is simply not suited to streaming large chunks of data. But that's what Firewire lives for.
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You apparently missed the announcement that Apple is releasing a fully-supported SDK (Software Development Kit) in February 2008. That means that software developers will no longer HAVE to "hack" the iPhone (or iPod Touch) to install custom apps. Instead, there will be a "legal" way to do it. Then this back-and-forth between Apple and the iPhone hax0rs will simply vanish.
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Hmm, maybe the KHTML/Konqueror devs need to learn about this. I find it quite handy.
...That the company (Microsoft) that universally denies, downplays, delays and diddles (sorry, needed another "d" word) regarding every-single-one of their OWN security vulnerabilities (even when they DO allow immediate execution of arbitrary code), has, IN LESS THAN 24 HOURS taken it upon themselves to suddenly act like the world's security cop?
You'd think it was a DRM backdoor in Windows we were talking about!
Now how about the same response time on the 10^7 security holes in every version of Windows, even up through Vista?
If you have the facts on your side, then argue the facts. If the facts aren't on your side, then argue the law. If neither the facts nor the law is on your side, then argue procedure.
Methinks that challenging the Oaths of Office of the Judge falls under the "procedure" category...
Not that there's anything at all wrong with it, but I'd venture a guess that the University of Wisconsing is particularly Mac Friendly...
What MS's game plan is, IMHO, is to introduce the suppository service, then raise the price of the boxed version until no one can afford to use anything but the suppository version.
Then, they simply keep inching up the suppository fee, year by year, version by version...
The only problem with their plan is, the alternatives are getting as good, and in some ways better than, the "original".
And once Office and Exchange are no longer dominant, can Windows be far behind?
Amen, brother!
I replied to this, but something ate my reply...
I thought all the "bad mother-in-law-jokes" wrote themselves!
But if your offer isn't some kind of sad, belated April Fools' joke, gimme a shout at dmcintosh256_at_gmail.com
What's with the Firesign Theatre reference? I love TFT, but I don't get what that has to do with the topic...
Also, I don't know if Colossus: The Forbin Project (The movie's full name) used that method; but HARLIE, in the David Gerrold Book "When HARLIE was one", most certainly did.
Yeah, it's not like MacroSuck(tm), who has NEVER created an API, only to abandon it later...
Hey fucktard!
Get your crowbar out, put it in your wallet, and GET A MAC!
If you recognize that OS X is what your family should be running, then don'tcha think you should support continued development of the project in the only way you can; by purchasing a Mac?
Or do you really believe that OSes come from the OS-Fairy?
I'll bet you didn't even purchase one single copy of OS X, let alone a "Family Pack". Since you said "family", I assume you meant to illegally install OS X on not one, but multiples of your generic white-box shitboxen.
...and next time you put up a mirror, make sure that someone can actually ACCESS it.
/. subscribers is really going downhill...
Sheesh, the quality of
Hey, fuckface! Quit spreading FUD!
Or, I guess you didn't hear: 'Jobs' announced an Apple-approved SDK for the iPhone/iPod Touch to be released, um, THIS MONTH about FOUR MONTHS AGO.
Stupid Git.
Or are you submitting comments from the past, before the price drop over five months ago?
Works just fine in OS X.
Um, I believe that MacOS X dropped the use of TPM-chip copy protection soon after it was introduced, and only a few notebook motherboards ever had TPM chips on them. In fact, I'm not sure if any retail versions of OS X nor any publicly-available Apple motherboards actually had TPM support.
The Lisa ran Xenix??? I did not know that. Documentation, please!
Um, I think 10.5.2 is being seeded to developers for comment. By all accounts, it is something like a 450MB "update"; so give 'em a LITTLE bit of a break on the roll-out schedule. Or would you rather have 10.5.2.1, 10.5.2.2, 10.5.2.2a, 10.5.2.3, 10.5.2.3a, 10.5.2.3ab, etc?
And you do realize that Apple was mercilessly taken to task for the the iMac's removal of the floppy disk (remember floppies? I hardly do!) and the inclusion of USB ports at the expense of RS422/232 serial ports (remember RS232 peripherals? I hardly do!). And now, they are being taken to task for removing the optical drive from the Airbook.
Do anyone else see a pattern here?
So perhaps, like with launchd, Apple (who really does have decades of *NIX experience. Think A/UX) has actually come up with a third, and obviously viable, option: XNU.
Therefore, a new question suggests itself: Do we really have to have a three-way debate? Micro v. Mono v. XNU (hybrid)???
Forgive me if I'm wrong; but isn't OS X considered a Microkernel-based OS?
Um, I said every EXTERNAL [Hard Drive]. That is a far cry from every PERIPHERAL. Having said that, I think that Scanners and video tuners/capture-ers and some printers would also benefit GREATLY by a little Firewire-love.
Yes, I know there are SOME scanners and video tuners/capture-ers that support FW; but not ALL, by any stretch of the imagination.
And, assuming the other Reply-er (Replicant?) stated that the FW "royalty" is about a U.S. Quarter (25 cents), that amounts to the inclusion of about one more glue logic package, or one more Op Amp. In other words, relatively insignificant on any device that sells for more than $50 retail.
LOL!
Good point!
I think such a law would violate the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (involuntary servitude) Anti-Slavery amendment.
BTW, this is the same thing that lawyers that get pulled into being on-the-spot Public Defenders in CIVIL cases use to try to get out of working for free at the Government's behest.
Fry's (outpost.com) lists the Seagate ST305004FPB1E3-RK 500GB external, with eSATA, Firewire (400) and USB 2.0 for $199.99, and the ST305004FPB1E2-RK, which is the same drive (and I'm sure the same PCB less the FW chip, connector, and a few "passive" components) for only $20 less, which is a far lower price difference, percentage-wise, than the parent postulated.
IMHO, A $20 adder seems fair, considering the cost differential and the lower volumes.
Qute frankly, I think that price differential would shrink to nearly nothing, if they'd just put FW on every external. The USB protocol is simply not suited to streaming large chunks of data. But that's what Firewire lives for.
Does your sig intentionally quote Gentle Giant?
You apparently missed the announcement that Apple is releasing a fully-supported SDK (Software Development Kit) in February 2008. That means that software developers will no longer HAVE to "hack" the iPhone (or iPod Touch) to install custom apps. Instead, there will be a "legal" way to do it. Then this back-and-forth between Apple and the iPhone hax0rs will simply vanish.