Lots of people really don't care about blue ray. I have no plans to own it, nor do most people I know. It's a niche market and will most likely stay that way.
Yes actually that's very helpful, thanks! Maybe I should have chosen the definition of terms as my starting point in this discussion. I'll try that if there's a next time...:)
A better demarcation would be "belief versus non-belief".
But initially you said:
The elephant in the room here is the idea that any kind of communication is possible with some invisible all-powerful being, yet people who believe they can talk to God would almost certainly consider Perry to be mad if he added the hairdryer to his request.
So long as it's culturally acceptable to proudly hold irrational beliefs it's difficult to imagine how people like the birthers really can be sidelined and ignored?
So I responded to what was said, not what you're now hoping to claim was said. IOW I do not really appreciate this moving of goalposts and will not humor you. Sorry to be so inflexible, but you stated your position quite clearly when you chose to employ ridicule against everyone who doesn't share you belief system.
I really don't care about all the mod hits (though it's a bit disheartening to see the prevalence of irrationality on slashdot, if moderation is truly evidence of anything other than the actual opinions of the slashstaff), but I do hope people can learn from this. Apparently quite a few need to.
I found the opening statement of TFS ("Twitter has been a source of breaking news...") kind of shocking. Does no-one read well enough to recognize a fluff piece from marketing when they see one, or do we just not care anymore?
See, you guys want to use the most absurd, extreme example for "religious people" and try to portray yourselves as "free of irrational belief". But you freak out and attack me for pointing out simple facts which expose the kind of statements I initially responded to (which you then conveniently backpedal from or even just lie and say "nobody's saying {$what_was_said}". Clear thinkers spot the incongruity, but most people are obviously not clear thinkers.
Translation: "I don't need faith to know for a fact there ain't no god, you idiot troll!!!"
Purport: this person is a rabid True Believer. His god is his mistaken idea of "science". His logical fallacies are highly visible and render him a tragic laughingstock to anyone rational. Learn from this.
On the other hand, your argument stinks of the logical fallacy called "false continuum": "The idea that because there is no definitive demarcation line between two extremes, that the distinction between the extremes is not real or meaningful".
Well, both sides are claiming superior "knowledge" while actually relying solely upon faith, so I don't think the false continuum applies. The definitive demarcation is belief in "god" vs belief in "science", is it not?
Obvously, that's my point. People who self-righteously proclaim "belief in god is proof of incompetence" are themselves no different from people who want you to "get right with god".
So long as it's culturally acceptable to proudly hold irrational beliefs...
Where is the difference between someone who is pushing their idea of god vs someone pushing the "certainty" of there being none? Prove there is no god please or admit you're the same as the ones you're criticizing.
I do think there's some sort of disconnect, perhaps cultural. Sony has done a great deal to incur the wrath of an awful lot of geeky people, and their failure to understand that aspect of the market may be their downfall.
Not knowing the particulars of how banking works overseas is "being an idiot"? Boy, the bar just goes lower and lower on slashdot nowadays. I was pretty smart when I first came here, now I've been downgraded to "idiot" twice in the past week.
Why is NTFS always read only. It shouldn't be so hard to make a proper file system driver what the hell?
In FreeBSD you can enable write support and recompile your kernel, not sure about OpenBSD. I always wondered why default kernels in BSD and Linux don't just enable all well-supported filesystems to be available rw by default. Let the burden be on people who want the two second advantage in booting or something, rather than those of us who are trying to do something as basic as access our data.
That, and I do have my original handwritten birth certificate, as well as a modern "official" copy with the state seal which is a relatively recent requirement. As I recall it took over two months to get the state seal version of it back when they suddenly decided the one I used until 1990-something was no longer "valid" So yes I do treat it as if it were irreplaceable.
Lots of people really don't care about blue ray. I have no plans to own it, nor do most people I know. It's a niche market and will most likely stay that way.
You are dishonest and/or lack self-awareness. Next time someone ridicules you I hope you'll think about the effect it has on the discussion at hand.
Yes actually that's very helpful, thanks! Maybe I should have chosen the definition of terms as my starting point in this discussion. I'll try that if there's a next time... :)
But initially you said:
So I responded to what was said, not what you're now hoping to claim was said. IOW I do not really appreciate this moving of goalposts and will not humor you. Sorry to be so inflexible, but you stated your position quite clearly when you chose to employ ridicule against everyone who doesn't share you belief system.
I really don't care about all the mod hits (though it's a bit disheartening to see the prevalence of irrationality on slashdot, if moderation is truly evidence of anything other than the actual opinions of the slashstaff), but I do hope people can learn from this. Apparently quite a few need to.
No, I'm just actually ok with not knowing -- and realizing everyone insists they do know is full of shit.
I found the opening statement of TFS ("Twitter has been a source of breaking news...") kind of shocking. Does no-one read well enough to recognize a fluff piece from marketing when they see one, or do we just not care anymore?
You're fallen victim to a false dichotomy, that's all.
See, you guys want to use the most absurd, extreme example for "religious people" and try to portray yourselves as "free of irrational belief". But you freak out and attack me for pointing out simple facts which expose the kind of statements I initially responded to (which you then conveniently backpedal from or even just lie and say "nobody's saying {$what_was_said}". Clear thinkers spot the incongruity, but most people are obviously not clear thinkers.
Translation: "I don't need faith to know for a fact there ain't no god, you idiot troll!!!"
Purport: this person is a rabid True Believer. His god is his mistaken idea of "science". His logical fallacies are highly visible and render him a tragic laughingstock to anyone rational. Learn from this.
Well, both sides are claiming superior "knowledge" while actually relying solely upon faith, so I don't think the false continuum applies. The definitive demarcation is belief in "god" vs belief in "science", is it not?
Obvously, that's my point. People who self-righteously proclaim "belief in god is proof of incompetence" are themselves no different from people who want you to "get right with god".
Trapped between irrational believers and irrational deniers, that's where it leaves us.
Where is the difference between someone who is pushing their idea of god vs someone pushing the "certainty" of there being none? Prove there is no god please or admit you're the same as the ones you're criticizing.
To clarify: If you consider the Faux Nooz commentators "pundits", then so is the goatse troll.
By definition, idiots like Hannity and Beck are not "pundits".
Damned good question! And it better be the long form, too, by golly.
I do think there's some sort of disconnect, perhaps cultural. Sony has done a great deal to incur the wrath of an awful lot of geeky people, and their failure to understand that aspect of the market may be their downfall.
I think your behavior in this discussion answers that question pretty well, frankly. Probably when the high wears off, you'll see that.
You really need to include other activities in your life besides obsessively posting here.
Condescending old bastard, ain'tcha?
Huh, I must've confused it with ext2/3 then. I always end up needing that as well...
Mmmmmmmmmmmm, fruity cowards ***drool, moan****
Not knowing the particulars of how banking works overseas is "being an idiot"? Boy, the bar just goes lower and lower on slashdot nowadays. I was pretty smart when I first came here, now I've been downgraded to "idiot" twice in the past week.
In FreeBSD you can enable write support and recompile your kernel, not sure about OpenBSD. I always wondered why default kernels in BSD and Linux don't just enable all well-supported filesystems to be available rw by default. Let the burden be on people who want the two second advantage in booting or something, rather than those of us who are trying to do something as basic as access our data.
That, and I do have my original handwritten birth certificate, as well as a modern "official" copy with the state seal which is a relatively recent requirement. As I recall it took over two months to get the state seal version of it back when they suddenly decided the one I used until 1990-something was no longer "valid" So yes I do treat it as if it were irreplaceable.