The first thing that feels strange after migrating to Linux is that you do not spend time tinkering. I have tinkered a bit grub menu when it was grub 1. Now, with grub 2, I have nothing to do. Wine works fine for photoshop and kitsune (I was too lazy to compile it). In fact, I have not compiled anything (except personal programs) since I played with linux from scratch 5 years ago. I use my computer. You are 10 years retarded and you completely missed the point.
Hello, I use Linux as my everyday desktop (ubuntu LTS) since 2.5 years. I have switched for many reasons (missing drivers on Vista64, openoffice and chrome identical on Linux, I know unix, religion,...).
My return of experience is that Linux works fine enough for usage, but there are many strange "feelings".
- It is strange to not always be installing software found on internet, deinstalling them because they are crap and then having to fix issues related to bad deinstallation.
- On linux, there is no problem to find and install powerfull packages, but there is a step learning curve. The documentation is either not up to date, incomplete, not existant or does not go beyond basic stuff. On windows, I complain about bad software, on linux, I complain about my ignorance and the lack of time to learn. This is not good for self estim.
- There is a feeling of loneliness. There is almost nobody I can ask when I have a question. Sometimes, I find a question on internet about a problem I have already encountered and solved. But once a problem is solved, it never occur again. I do not remember exactly how I did solve it. I can almost not help. Maybe I should search for a LUG to share my experiences. I have nothing to discuss with people having windows problems.
The main positive points that balance these negative feelings are:
- that my disks are far easier to backup because of the clear separation of data and programs. It is trivial to mount backup images, rip DVD....
- I can access my computer from anywhere (if it is on). I would like to setup the wake on lan, but I have not found clear documentation
- My computer is as fast as 3 years ago, I have no need to change.
For me, the main problem of Linux usage is that there are too few of us.
Never had a crash due to an update on Ubuntu. Fiddling always with the system is a bad habit coming from windows. You do not need that on Linux
On linux, the installation is not always easy, but after that, you can forget about system and just use the applications.
System healing is a windows problem where the OS degrades with time. On Linux, performance do not degrade, it still work like the first day.
Linux is my desktop OS since two years. I have migrated mostly because my hardware was not supported by vista 64 (old printer and old scanner).
I have no software problem: open office, eclipse and google chrome are the same as on windows, wine works perfectly for the couple of remaining applications where I am too lazy to learn the Linux equivalent.
I just wish everybody migrate to Linux so that I can buy new hardware without worrying about linux support.
I have also such a tablet. It was impossible to use without a keyboard. Once a "Bluetooth® Mobile Keyboard 6000" is added, it becomes a slow and expensive notebook. It is usable.
Now I have a real tablet (with android). A keyboard is not needed, but I have tried to recognize my azerty bluetooth keyboard. It is recognized as a qwerty keyboard.
ctrl-alt-f1 is not a problem if the student does not have login and password.
A simple way to fit your need is to launch a nake X server instead of gnome and to log in on all the computers before the start of the exam.
This is very old school, but it still works.
regards
Very strange I am using linux since 2 years for the exact opposite reason. I have Ubuntu. It is a system that does not degrade with time. My computer is still marvellously fast as it was 2 years ago.
With windows, I was always loosing time fixing issues. Now, I spend 100% of my time using the applications. I know openoffice is not perfect, but it is always improving automatically, not always degrading like microsoft office.
When I need a new application, it is free and trivial to install.
With windows, most of the applications available on internet are malwares, often very hard to fully uninstall.
Most of us agree with the simple need of a compressed directory. We mainly disagree that adding features to the filesystem is a correct way to do that.
What you call "use esotheric workaround" is very trivial for most of linux developers. If you have the level of knowledge to need to compress a directory, you generally have the level to find it easy to do using the CLI.
I do not reject your lengthy rant about FOSS. Playing with mounting points, partitions (resize, move,...) and file systems should be available without the CLI, using an eye candy gui.
The need is present since a long time and has never been solved. Ubuntu has provided a partial work-around using FUSE everywhere. I do not think this is a correct solution because it is hiding things, not making them simpler. This work-around has probably postponed the invention of a clean way to handle file systems.
"You can't just buy a copy of an OS, make a copy, and then sell the copy. For that you need a license."
No !
Trade laws define the rules that protect consumers by defining their rights and obligations. Even if many politicians are corrupted, this limits the way consumers can be screwed.
A EULA can not restrict, it can only extend our rights. Otherwise, it is outlaw.
Vocabulary shift is the general way to manipulate. License if the term used by the bad guys. When I go to the store to buy a software, I do not rent it and I may use it in any legal manner.
I am just in the process of migrating my windows 7 tablet (archos 9) to windows XP. Why on earth do you think windows 7 is a nice operating system ?
If going back to XP is not an opportunity, it is right that windows 7 is a significant improvement on vista, that probably explains the good sales.
But, after releasing windows 7, they could have stop selling vista without much hurt.
If Windows 8 has only advantages over windows 7 why would it be stupid to stop selling windows 7 ?
I really do not understand why you have score 5 informative with such empty assertions.
My first criteria for choosing a smartphone is to be able to access it via ssh in order to get its GPS position. If the seller can not demo this, I will not buy it.
The claims are stupid. Linus has clarified how and why the way Google has used kernel headers is fully authorised. But it is not a question of Linus opinion, the reasoning is easy to undestand:
- Linux kernel can be used by non GPL programs. It is an indisputable goal of Linux.
- To satisfy that goal, it was necessary to allow the usage of kernel interface description by non GPL programs. This authorization has been clearly given and do not restrict the manner this interface will be used.
- The interface description is in the kernel headers. In these headers, in addition to the interface description, there are comments, nothing else. Are these comments protected by the GPL or free ? This is not so clear. Google has taken the less risky approach to use the headers in Android: they have removed all the comments (including the copyright notice), in order to keep only the explicitely authorized material.
Ingeneral, this is prohibited to remove copyright notice, but in this case, this is the correct way.
The accusations of Florian are bullshit. I think it should have been noticed in the summary that this is only FUD.
When you have serious work with many users,..., you should NOT use a GUI. You should have procedures and/or scripts. You must keep a log of all your administrative actions and be able to automate actions in order to improve processes. With good administration practices, the workload of the administrator does not increase much with the number of users or servers.
Having a good GUI is only good for casual users.
Google has tried to negotiate the right to use the patents. As it has failed, Google has done all the technical possible efforts (dalvick,...) in order to avoid patent violation and still have a fast and usable language. I think that Google has been very creative to keep the language syntax and the libraries almost identical (they are both patent free) and to not copy any other aspects of Java. If a real patent (not trivial,...) has still been violated, either it is a small violation that could be fixed by a small technical change, either this makes void all the work of Google and this removes all the point in having language syntax and libraries free.
In fact, I do not see any acceptable justification of a win of Oracle in this match. IMHO Google must win or all the legal system is rotten.
Excellent link that shows that almost a third of features are not implemented. We all know that the last 10% of the features are the one that take the longer.
More seriously, the features that I would really like to tinker with are concurrency and garbage collector. These features are far from implemented.
A new layer of syntactic hacks so that the language allows to do normal things with a reasonable efficiency.
I am really impatient to try this new language, but previous experience suggests I will have to wait at least 3 years before seeing a standard compliant compiler.
It is the most used way, not the best one. It is an inappropriate way. Even if bitfields have drawbacks, simple constants defined in a namespace remain a better choice.
I am a french voter. There was almost no alternative to Sarkozy and it was not so predictable that Sarkozy would be so terrible.
By putting DSK in jail, you have removed the most promising candidate for next election.
I promise I will not vote for Sarkozy even if that means voting for the worst asshole.
The antibody records says nothing about the plot theory. In fact, if she is HIV+, this gives her a good reason to sell her services. She has nothing to loose and she needs money for medicine.
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The first thing that feels strange after migrating to Linux is that you do not spend time tinkering. I have tinkered a bit grub menu when it was grub 1. Now, with grub 2, I have nothing to do. Wine works fine for photoshop and kitsune (I was too lazy to compile it). In fact, I have not compiled anything (except personal programs) since I played with linux from scratch 5 years ago. I use my computer. You are 10 years retarded and you completely missed the point.
Hello, I use Linux as my everyday desktop (ubuntu LTS) since 2.5 years. I have switched for many reasons (missing drivers on Vista64, openoffice and chrome identical on Linux, I know unix, religion, ...).
My return of experience is that Linux works fine enough for usage, but there are many strange "feelings".
- It is strange to not always be installing software found on internet, deinstalling them because they are crap and then having to fix issues related to bad deinstallation.
- On linux, there is no problem to find and install powerfull packages, but there is a step learning curve. The documentation is either not up to date, incomplete, not existant or does not go beyond basic stuff. On windows, I complain about bad software, on linux, I complain about my ignorance and the lack of time to learn. This is not good for self estim.
- There is a feeling of loneliness. There is almost nobody I can ask when I have a question. Sometimes, I find a question on internet about a problem I have already encountered and solved. But once a problem is solved, it never occur again. I do not remember exactly how I did solve it. I can almost not help. Maybe I should search for a LUG to share my experiences. I have nothing to discuss with people having windows problems.
The main positive points that balance these negative feelings are:
- that my disks are far easier to backup because of the clear separation of data and programs. It is trivial to mount backup images, rip DVD....
- I can access my computer from anywhere (if it is on). I would like to setup the wake on lan, but I have not found clear documentation
- My computer is as fast as 3 years ago, I have no need to change.
For me, the main problem of Linux usage is that there are too few of us.
It is very difficult to assess if the MAFIAA has really earned less money because of piracy. Maybe the opposite is true.
...
What is sure is that piracy has been used as an excuse to pay less the artists and to spend a lot of money to buy politicians, lawyers,
All this money means more jobs that would be useless if the MAFIAA was not trying to preserve its obsolete business model.
Definitely, the MAFIAA has no excuse and all this nonsense cost a lot to society.
Never had a crash due to an update on Ubuntu. Fiddling always with the system is a bad habit coming from windows. You do not need that on Linux
On linux, the installation is not always easy, but after that, you can forget about system and just use the applications.
System healing is a windows problem where the OS degrades with time. On Linux, performance do not degrade, it still work like the first day.
Linux is my desktop OS since two years. I have migrated mostly because my hardware was not supported by vista 64 (old printer and old scanner).
I have no software problem: open office, eclipse and google chrome are the same as on windows, wine works perfectly for the couple of remaining applications where I am too lazy to learn the Linux equivalent.
I just wish everybody migrate to Linux so that I can buy new hardware without worrying about linux support.
Censorship has never worked whatever the energy wasted in it. There is a lot of pedagogical material on youtube.
You are wasting your time and the time of the students for a motivation that smells a bit like Nazism.
The single excuse I give you is that it teaches student how to bypass censorship.
I have also such a tablet. It was impossible to use without a keyboard. Once a "Bluetooth® Mobile Keyboard 6000" is added, it becomes a slow and expensive notebook. It is usable. Now I have a real tablet (with android). A keyboard is not needed, but I have tried to recognize my azerty bluetooth keyboard. It is recognized as a qwerty keyboard.
ctrl-alt-f1 is not a problem if the student does not have login and password. A simple way to fit your need is to launch a nake X server instead of gnome and to log in on all the computers before the start of the exam. This is very old school, but it still works. regards
Very strange I am using linux since 2 years for the exact opposite reason. I have Ubuntu. It is a system that does not degrade with time. My computer is still marvellously fast as it was 2 years ago. With windows, I was always loosing time fixing issues. Now, I spend 100% of my time using the applications. I know openoffice is not perfect, but it is always improving automatically, not always degrading like microsoft office. When I need a new application, it is free and trivial to install. With windows, most of the applications available on internet are malwares, often very hard to fully uninstall.
Most of us agree with the simple need of a compressed directory. We mainly disagree that adding features to the filesystem is a correct way to do that. ...) and file systems should be available without the CLI, using an eye candy gui.
What you call "use esotheric workaround" is very trivial for most of linux developers. If you have the level of knowledge to need to compress a directory, you generally have the level to find it easy to do using the CLI.
I do not reject your lengthy rant about FOSS. Playing with mounting points, partitions (resize, move,
The need is present since a long time and has never been solved. Ubuntu has provided a partial work-around using FUSE everywhere. I do not think this is a correct solution because it is hiding things, not making them simpler. This work-around has probably postponed the invention of a clean way to handle file systems.
"You can't just buy a copy of an OS, make a copy, and then sell the copy. For that you need a license."
No !
Trade laws define the rules that protect consumers by defining their rights and obligations. Even if many politicians are corrupted, this limits the way consumers can be screwed.
A EULA can not restrict, it can only extend our rights. Otherwise, it is outlaw.
Vocabulary shift is the general way to manipulate. License if the term used by the bad guys. When I go to the store to buy a software, I do not rent it and I may use it in any legal manner.
I am just in the process of migrating my windows 7 tablet (archos 9) to windows XP. Why on earth do you think windows 7 is a nice operating system ?
If going back to XP is not an opportunity, it is right that windows 7 is a significant improvement on vista, that probably explains the good sales.
But, after releasing windows 7, they could have stop selling vista without much hurt.
If Windows 8 has only advantages over windows 7 why would it be stupid to stop selling windows 7 ?
I really do not understand why you have score 5 informative with such empty assertions.
“Google [... is] clearly on the losing track,” [said] Florian Mueller.
Each time we see this name in an article we can be sure that most of the article is bullshit.
This is an encrypted message. What else could be the point of such a minable post ?
My first criteria for choosing a smartphone is to be able to access it via ssh in order to get its GPS position. If the seller can not demo this, I will not buy it.
The claims are stupid. Linus has clarified how and why the way Google has used kernel headers is fully authorised. But it is not a question of Linus opinion, the reasoning is easy to undestand:
- Linux kernel can be used by non GPL programs. It is an indisputable goal of Linux.
- To satisfy that goal, it was necessary to allow the usage of kernel interface description by non GPL programs. This authorization has been clearly given and do not restrict the manner this interface will be used.
- The interface description is in the kernel headers. In these headers, in addition to the interface description, there are comments, nothing else. Are these comments protected by the GPL or free ? This is not so clear. Google has taken the less risky approach to use the headers in Android: they have removed all the comments (including the copyright notice), in order to keep only the explicitely authorized material.
Ingeneral, this is prohibited to remove copyright notice, but in this case, this is the correct way.
The accusations of Florian are bullshit. I think it should have been noticed in the summary that this is only FUD.
When you have serious work with many users, ..., you should NOT use a GUI. You should have procedures and/or scripts. You must keep a log of all your administrative actions and be able to automate actions in order to improve processes. With good administration practices, the workload of the administrator does not increase much with the number of users or servers.
Having a good GUI is only good for casual users.
Google has tried to negotiate the right to use the patents. As it has failed, Google has done all the technical possible efforts (dalvick, ...) in order to avoid patent violation and still have a fast and usable language. ...) has still been violated, either it is a small violation that could be fixed by a small technical change, either this makes void all the work of Google and this removes all the point in having language syntax and libraries free.
I think that Google has been very creative to keep the language syntax and the libraries almost identical (they are both patent free) and to not copy any other aspects of Java.
If a real patent (not trivial,
In fact, I do not see any acceptable justification of a win of Oracle in this match. IMHO Google must win or all the legal system is rotten.
I care about my freedom to write programs. All the corporates except Google are against this freedom.
Excellent link that shows that almost a third of features are not implemented. We all know that the last 10% of the features are the one that take the longer.
More seriously, the features that I would really like to tinker with are concurrency and garbage collector. These features are far from implemented.
A new layer of syntactic hacks so that the language allows to do normal things with a reasonable efficiency.
I am really impatient to try this new language, but previous experience suggests I will have to wait at least 3 years before seeing a standard compliant compiler.
It is the most used way, not the best one. It is an inappropriate way. Even if bitfields have drawbacks, simple constants defined in a namespace remain a better choice.
If the law is applied, what will do the governement with the tenth of notifications each days ?
I am a french voter. There was almost no alternative to Sarkozy and it was not so predictable that Sarkozy would be so terrible.
By putting DSK in jail, you have removed the most promising candidate for next election.
I promise I will not vote for Sarkozy even if that means voting for the worst asshole.
The antibody records says nothing about the plot theory. In fact, if she is HIV+, this gives her a good reason to sell her services. She has nothing to loose and she needs money for medicine.