Good God! I started digging into Hypercard when I was about the same age, on a Macintosh SE. It introduced me to graphic design, programming, and basic game design. I have higher respect for that program than any other, past and present.
"My feet hurt... With destiny!"
and...
"You killed my goldfish!"
"Why does that pickle you?"
I think that's how it went. Too lazy to find the comic, though.
No arguing with (2), but the gamecube was much cheaper than the PS2. I think the PS2 rode all the way on mind-blowingly high support from third parties. I don't know much about their marketing strategy to producers, but it must have been really effective.
Yeah, that is really a shame. But hopefully that will change eventually, even if just for a little while. Nevertheless, the feeling I'm getting is that the structure of the government, the way one gets elected, etc. sort of encourages the corrupt more than the honest.
Well, sometimes the U.S. government can suck quite a bit, depending on who's in power and what your "suck criteria" are. But, in my opinion, one of America's great benefits is, when a government really starts to suck (or even if it doesn't) we throw people out of there and try again with new faces, minimum fuss.
No. Islamofascism is a term coined through general resentment and hatred, and contradicts the facts. It matters zero that Hussein was an admirer of Hitler. Please do not compare Islam to Nazism.
Did you know that Nazism abhored religion? Also Islam is a religion. It's a total paradox from the outset, without even having to go into the details (which also point in the same direction). For one who just took IB American History, this is crystal clear.
Entirely different problem, yes. But, temptation is a trait present in all humans. The original poster was not trying to brag about that. But it's not as if it's his fault, either. And despite being different problems, they relate to each other for the reasons that the original poster gave.
Nautilus may sometimes go down after a bad disc, but while all hell breaks loose in windowsland when I try to access a hard drive with a corrupt file, my linux partition just shrugged its shoulders and was able to access the whole thing without a problem. In my experience, Linux has been significantly better in this regard.
I'm not the original poster, but I'll try to bounce what I think was the reasoning.
Someone posts a legitimate question (what is the point of all this eye candy if it doesn't perform an operating system's most basic functions efficiently) and you accuse him of Flamebait.
I don't really think you can call it a legitimate question since it was a rhetorical question- in essence, not a question at all, but a statement. It was just the poster expressing outrage in an angry manner. Not terribly angry- we've all seen truly angry manners. The post definitely has the possibility of drawing Vista people rushing to the operating system's defense. But it seems that wasn't the case, and I think the person you responded to took the post as being a little harsher than how other people saw it; perfectly understandable. The post wasn't all that "flamie" and the response really wasn't that accusatory- just a little. Not a huge deal all-in-all.
That's my take anyway.
Agreed. I think this is one of the most important tasks to be done.
As it happens, I also have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop. Looks like I'll be upgrading tomorrow if I have time.
I like your statement, which is entirely true and relevent, but I think the real message to be taken out of it is, the type of computer you want is going to seem less expensive for its features, no matter which side of the fence you're looking from.
Windows: Where does install.exe come from? You have to find and download it first.
OS X: Where does the program icon come from? You have to find and download it first.
Linux: You can either type the text into the terminal (easier than any other method as long as you know a couple words- terminals aren't evil!) or go into a package manager and grab it. Both of these ways do not involve both the action of downloading and installation, but just one quick action. Or you can usually just find and download it, which is about as quick and intuitive as with Windows (though that isn't always the case if it's crappy and unorganized freeware). I can understand from your comment that you haven't actually used linux before.
Yes! This happens with practically everyone! Even I used to be one of these people (5-6 years ago, when I was in Middle School). And besides, even the strongest of such programs isn't as strong as using an OS that has a practically nil chance of coming across any sort of virus.
That's not what he meant at all. Clearly, the poster did not mean the support argument when he said sham arguments. Actually, he's saying that support is the only real argument, and it's the "on-the-fence" people who care about that, not the inconvertibles who won't convert to linux because "linux isn't windows." That's why he says support needs to be fixed badly. I hope you understand the argument now.
Sounds about right- hopelessly biased reviews, but most entertaining magazine in existence. My brother has most of the old copies- those things are so fun to read, even now, because of all the cool stuff it has inside, even if just for the sake of advertising. Particularly, the extensive and graphical maps fascinated me as a small kid.
A lot more people may put faith in reviews than you think, unfortunately. I hate to say this, but there are a lot of people out there that aren't as smart as you. Man, I do totally agree with you, though... The internet (among other things) would be a much cleaner place if the stupid review system was dropped in favor of pure description. Then you don't get opinions of people who have different tastes than you, which are completely meaningless.
While I will always love 2D games, old and new, I like your take here. 3D games have the potential to be fantastic, but the focus on realism makes so many look... pretty much the same as one another, as they're going for the same style. Surely others also find this just plain boring. Furthermore, brilliant things can be done in 3D that haven't even been touched on, and they don't have any reason to cost nearly as much as the realistic style. In my opinion, teams could be considerably smaller and costs significantly less, and with a little genuine inspiration (a rare trait, thanks to big publishers), create a fantastic, dare I say mindblowing 3D game.
Ahh. Thanks for clearing THAT up. I'm not sure why I didn't know that Dragon Warrior was always a moniker for Dragon Quest. I've always been sitting here with Dragon Warrior (the first one, still have it!) and wondering when it changed.
Eh heh heh, you mistook every single one of my arguments for something else. This is probably just because I was unclear, though, so let me explain.
See, that's disengenuous. You really won't stop arguing with me if I had degrees in such feilds. You say that only to make yourself seem likeable - you're not. Secondly, you lose your argument immediately if you're saying that 'only those with degrees should speak on this matter'. Do you have degrees relivant to this topic? Didn't think so.
I'm sorry I wrote that out like this now. It DOES sound pretentious- sorry. I was being a bit of an ass. I still am. We both are. However, the argument was not about your whole argument at all. It was about one thing you said: that children DO NOT HAVE the part of the brain that discerns right and wrong (which, among other things, you did say, if you check back). Brains are developing, yeah, that's fact. But you need to be pretty experience to be able to tell me the "moral compass" of the brain is completely unusable for children, as it defies many examples in reality.
*Sigh* No, it's not my 'opinion' it's a very simple fact. A child's brain is not fully developed. The specific parts of the brain that are underdeveloped are those that deal with interpersonal skills, reasoning, and higher level abstraction.
I mentioned how you asserted that children do not have the ability to discern write from wrong (when you said they didn't have that part of the brain). You responded with the fact that children's brains are not fully developed, as though that was what I was arguing with. There's a large difference between "not yet fully developed" and "unuseable". Interestingly, you've been implying both. Which is it? If you are saying that there's no way for children to tell the difference between right and wrong, I see examples every day from the youngest of children that prove that wrong. If you are saying that the part IS useable but just needs more formation (and therefore is more susceptible to guidance) then we miscommunicated and have not argument against each other.
No, I implied (if by 'imply' you mean 'wrote it out very carefully') that children need to be repremanded on a case-by-case basis. Children need to be taught what's right and wrong - not simply be punished.
Here is the most critical misinterpretation of all, and it's really my fault for not being more clear. I was not responding to what you carefully wrote. I was responding to what you IMPLIED. You said, in your original email to the original poster, that he should just "suck it up." What's that even supposed to mean? Fight back directly? Bad idea- leads to him getting hurt or him getting into trouble. His image most likely wouldn't change since he already recieved his "nerd" status. Be stoic about it and pretend he's not getting hurt? Please, understand- people like this are different than people like you. They are much, much more sensitive and, while they tend to be nicer people, words can reach them and hurt them. They can't just "train" themselves out of it. No, this is not fact, this is just firsthand experience.
How about I get to the point. You state explicitly that bullies should be repremanded and guided, but your implications in telling a victim to just "grow a spine" would come in conflict from that statement. As you can see, great portions of your argument I agree entirely with. But the things that I had real issue with were the things you said that convoluted your main argument, that turned it from an insightful speech to, well, something a bully might say.
I won't respond after this post. I probably won't even continue reading. This is not because I want to have the last word, please believe me- continue to reply if you wish. I just came to realize that debates like this are harmful to me- they make me feel miserable, yet I still initiate them because I just "have to have a say." Stupid Egan. So consider this my closure. I didn't *want* to patronize you, and I bet you didn't really *want* to patronize me, but it's just so easy to do over the internet.*sigh*. Later.
If you have a masters in psycology, neurology, etc. I should be saying no more.
If not, you are making your opinions out to be facts. Saying a child can't know the difference between right and wrong... nearly every child's life directly contradicts what you are saying. What you are saying is not fact- it is fantasy. Okay, expelling poor bullies from school may devestate them and be bad for them. Doing nothing and telling a victim to just suck it up? That can go all the way to ruining their entire life. That is as close to fact in all this as you can get, and you are ignoring that. Getting these bullies and helping them quit their destructive actions? TA-DA! There's the best answer right there! But if during the entire time that's going on, you just let those kids bully victims (exactly what you implied), the entire point is moot.
Sounds very nice- especially the immediate-wake mode, I didn't know it was that responsive. I really want to try out OSX, too. I've had a few unfortunate experiences in the past, but they were school computers, so I can't even pretend they would have the quality and stability a personal computer would. Anyway, thanks for the mini-review, I'm actually somewhat excited to get one (though I won't be able to until next year...)
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Good God! I started digging into Hypercard when I was about the same age, on a Macintosh SE. It introduced me to graphic design, programming, and basic game design. I have higher respect for that program than any other, past and present.
"My feet hurt... With destiny!" and... "You killed my goldfish!" "Why does that pickle you?" I think that's how it went. Too lazy to find the comic, though.
No arguing with (2), but the gamecube was much cheaper than the PS2. I think the PS2 rode all the way on mind-blowingly high support from third parties. I don't know much about their marketing strategy to producers, but it must have been really effective.
Yeah, that is really a shame. But hopefully that will change eventually, even if just for a little while. Nevertheless, the feeling I'm getting is that the structure of the government, the way one gets elected, etc. sort of encourages the corrupt more than the honest.
Well, sometimes the U.S. government can suck quite a bit, depending on who's in power and what your "suck criteria" are. But, in my opinion, one of America's great benefits is, when a government really starts to suck (or even if it doesn't) we throw people out of there and try again with new faces, minimum fuss.
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Thanks so much!
No. Islamofascism is a term coined through general resentment and hatred, and contradicts the facts. It matters zero that Hussein was an admirer of Hitler. Please do not compare Islam to Nazism. Did you know that Nazism abhored religion? Also Islam is a religion. It's a total paradox from the outset, without even having to go into the details (which also point in the same direction). For one who just took IB American History, this is crystal clear.
Entirely different problem, yes. But, temptation is a trait present in all humans. The original poster was not trying to brag about that. But it's not as if it's his fault, either. And despite being different problems, they relate to each other for the reasons that the original poster gave.
Nautilus may sometimes go down after a bad disc, but while all hell breaks loose in windowsland when I try to access a hard drive with a corrupt file, my linux partition just shrugged its shoulders and was able to access the whole thing without a problem. In my experience, Linux has been significantly better in this regard.
I don't really think you can call it a legitimate question since it was a rhetorical question- in essence, not a question at all, but a statement. It was just the poster expressing outrage in an angry manner. Not terribly angry- we've all seen truly angry manners. The post definitely has the possibility of drawing Vista people rushing to the operating system's defense. But it seems that wasn't the case, and I think the person you responded to took the post as being a little harsher than how other people saw it; perfectly understandable. The post wasn't all that "flamie" and the response really wasn't that accusatory- just a little. Not a huge deal all-in-all.
That's my take anyway.
Agreed. I think this is one of the most important tasks to be done.
As it happens, I also have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop. Looks like I'll be upgrading tomorrow if I have time.
I like your statement, which is entirely true and relevent, but I think the real message to be taken out of it is, the type of computer you want is going to seem less expensive for its features, no matter which side of the fence you're looking from.
You referenced the only macbook of the 5 models that sucks. Very nice.
Windows: Where does install.exe come from? You have to find and download it first.
OS X: Where does the program icon come from? You have to find and download it first.
Linux: You can either type the text into the terminal (easier than any other method as long as you know a couple words- terminals aren't evil!) or go into a package manager and grab it. Both of these ways do not involve both the action of downloading and installation, but just one quick action. Or you can usually just find and download it, which is about as quick and intuitive as with Windows (though that isn't always the case if it's crappy and unorganized freeware). I can understand from your comment that you haven't actually used linux before.
Yes! This happens with practically everyone! Even I used to be one of these people (5-6 years ago, when I was in Middle School). And besides, even the strongest of such programs isn't as strong as using an OS that has a practically nil chance of coming across any sort of virus.
That's not what he meant at all. Clearly, the poster did not mean the support argument when he said sham arguments. Actually, he's saying that support is the only real argument, and it's the "on-the-fence" people who care about that, not the inconvertibles who won't convert to linux because "linux isn't windows." That's why he says support needs to be fixed badly. I hope you understand the argument now.
Yes, I also saw that interview. This isn't really 'news' per se... But I guess it makes for interesting discussion!
Sounds about right- hopelessly biased reviews, but most entertaining magazine in existence. My brother has most of the old copies- those things are so fun to read, even now, because of all the cool stuff it has inside, even if just for the sake of advertising. Particularly, the extensive and graphical maps fascinated me as a small kid.
A lot more people may put faith in reviews than you think, unfortunately. I hate to say this, but there are a lot of people out there that aren't as smart as you. Man, I do totally agree with you, though... The internet (among other things) would be a much cleaner place if the stupid review system was dropped in favor of pure description. Then you don't get opinions of people who have different tastes than you, which are completely meaningless.
While I will always love 2D games, old and new, I like your take here. 3D games have the potential to be fantastic, but the focus on realism makes so many look... pretty much the same as one another, as they're going for the same style. Surely others also find this just plain boring. Furthermore, brilliant things can be done in 3D that haven't even been touched on, and they don't have any reason to cost nearly as much as the realistic style. In my opinion, teams could be considerably smaller and costs significantly less, and with a little genuine inspiration (a rare trait, thanks to big publishers), create a fantastic, dare I say mindblowing 3D game.
Ahh. Thanks for clearing THAT up. I'm not sure why I didn't know that Dragon Warrior was always a moniker for Dragon Quest. I've always been sitting here with Dragon Warrior (the first one, still have it!) and wondering when it changed.
I'm sorry I wrote that out like this now. It DOES sound pretentious- sorry. I was being a bit of an ass. I still am. We both are. However, the argument was not about your whole argument at all. It was about one thing you said: that children DO NOT HAVE the part of the brain that discerns right and wrong (which, among other things, you did say, if you check back). Brains are developing, yeah, that's fact. But you need to be pretty experience to be able to tell me the "moral compass" of the brain is completely unusable for children, as it defies many examples in reality.
I mentioned how you asserted that children do not have the ability to discern write from wrong (when you said they didn't have that part of the brain). You responded with the fact that children's brains are not fully developed, as though that was what I was arguing with. There's a large difference between "not yet fully developed" and "unuseable". Interestingly, you've been implying both. Which is it? If you are saying that there's no way for children to tell the difference between right and wrong, I see examples every day from the youngest of children that prove that wrong. If you are saying that the part IS useable but just needs more formation (and therefore is more susceptible to guidance) then we miscommunicated and have not argument against each other.
Here is the most critical misinterpretation of all, and it's really my fault for not being more clear. I was not responding to what you carefully wrote. I was responding to what you IMPLIED. You said, in your original email to the original poster, that he should just "suck it up." What's that even supposed to mean? Fight back directly? Bad idea- leads to him getting hurt or him getting into trouble. His image most likely wouldn't change since he already recieved his "nerd" status. Be stoic about it and pretend he's not getting hurt? Please, understand- people like this are different than people like you. They are much, much more sensitive and, while they tend to be nicer people, words can reach them and hurt them. They can't just "train" themselves out of it. No, this is not fact, this is just firsthand experience.
How about I get to the point. You state explicitly that bullies should be repremanded and guided, but your implications in telling a victim to just "grow a spine" would come in conflict from that statement. As you can see, great portions of your argument I agree entirely with. But the things that I had real issue with were the things you said that convoluted your main argument, that turned it from an insightful speech to, well, something a bully might say.
I won't respond after this post. I probably won't even continue reading. This is not because I want to have the last word, please believe me- continue to reply if you wish. I just came to realize that debates like this are harmful to me- they make me feel miserable, yet I still initiate them because I just "have to have a say." Stupid Egan. So consider this my closure. I didn't *want* to patronize you, and I bet you didn't really *want* to patronize me, but it's just so easy to do over the internet.*sigh*. Later.
If you have a masters in psycology, neurology, etc. I should be saying no more.
If not, you are making your opinions out to be facts. Saying a child can't know the difference between right and wrong... nearly every child's life directly contradicts what you are saying. What you are saying is not fact- it is fantasy. Okay, expelling poor bullies from school may devestate them and be bad for them. Doing nothing and telling a victim to just suck it up? That can go all the way to ruining their entire life. That is as close to fact in all this as you can get, and you are ignoring that. Getting these bullies and helping them quit their destructive actions? TA-DA! There's the best answer right there! But if during the entire time that's going on, you just let those kids bully victims (exactly what you implied), the entire point is moot.
Sounds very nice- especially the immediate-wake mode, I didn't know it was that responsive. I really want to try out OSX, too. I've had a few unfortunate experiences in the past, but they were school computers, so I can't even pretend they would have the quality and stability a personal computer would. Anyway, thanks for the mini-review, I'm actually somewhat excited to get one (though I won't be able to until next year...)