This is a crucial point - there needs to be a couple of languages that don't need to target enterprise apps, just get a n00b ANYWHERE so that he can play with his pet project. I had a lot of fun as a child with the Commodore 128: 300 lines of code and I was playing my own games including "Navigate the Space Maze without crashing into the walls", custom-warped versions of standard logic puzzle games, dark versions of Eliza, and more. It was the most powerful programming language I have seen in years: draw a line, print text, make a sprite, simple data in variables. It was BASIC beyond steroids - it was on a rocket launcher.
I know, I know, none of that matters In Today's World. But it should. I can't count the times I wanted to build a cute little app to do something fun for a month, only to take a look at virtually all the languages and it a brick wall. Java and Javascript are a mess. So the Processing concept looks promising. Then if someone gets inspired enough to move on, by that point they should be good enough to port over their concept to a heavy lifter language.
We power-slammed the weaker version, so they dial up to 11 but we're "bored of that game". I posted a story here, it got voted to red hot, and didn't even make the front page. Instead the slot went to the silly Idle "Yay Copyright Forever" joke post.
"symbolset (646467) * Friend of a Friend on 03:29 PM February 19th, 2012 (#39094617) Homepage
SOPA sponsor Lamar Smith, under the guise of protecting childred from online pornographers, has proposed a new bill that requires every Internet Service Provider to spy on every customer, logging every thing that they do online and keeping records for an entire year. Just in case. So... yeah. It's getting pretty bad.
And of course these records would be discoverable by his Big Media sponsors."
THANK YOU!
Here it is, SOPA-II. Only this time he/they turned it up to 11! They switched the underpinning from Copyright back to the Kiddies again. So now all the toys and maybe more that were in SOPA will show up in this one, and the ready made comeback is all set - "So, you're in favor of Kiddie Abuse? Huh? Huh? You're with us or with them."
Did we use up our only cannonball on the SOPA version?
And I know I recall seeing my/. colleagues predicting this, so here we are. Is that how fast it is? Invoking xkcd: Congress: "We want SOPA." Internet: "No." Congress: "Sudo if you don't let us have SOPA-II you're promoting Kiddie Abuse." Internet: "Sure, we're tired from the last round, go ahead." (Tagged 2-20-2012 for my own notes.)
Exactly. I put in a nonsense birthdate that is *younger* than my real date by a few months. Then if anyone would in fact gripe about it, "Oh look, I'm older!" After all the "Security" chatter going around, I'm all for invoking the Security meme to avoid putting my real BDate online.
Well for the record I set my clock an hour and 45 minutes ahead so that I am on time! : )
But yes, $0.95 did seem lower because with 5% MA sales tax before they changed it it was still under a buck, so it was good for impulse sales. (Now that Taxachussetts changed it, it's back to being BS - you have to grab the penny from the Take-A-Penny tray to not bust open a second bill and get a handfull of crappy change.)
But in my opinion the real reason you can't eliminate pennies is that the chaos you'd cause in Accounting would far outstrip the "nicety" of not having pennies. Hell, Nickels are equally silly. Dimes are a close call. I stop my valuation at quarters, which are still good for laundry machines.
If suddenly there were no pennies the entire world would play the Office Space Game of "which way can I pocket the difference to my own benefit."
Firefox has this creepy new dashboard on New Tabs that shows parts of your history, and it's semi-permanent-sorta even if you delete parts of your history in the settings. I didn't do any exhaustive research, just that I noticed a top level partial history delete didn't work. All I'm saying is that stuff like the new Google data-merge is gonna intersect eventually with the cops/govt spreading their fear campaigns.
In a sense there is no economic advantage between just living together as lovers and being married. One funny example used to be that the standard deductions of one Head of Household and one Single, both triggering on lower overall brackets was cheaper than the married rate on combined income, and other tricks.
Then there's the very real cost of the alimony/child care process. Guy starts out with house, guy should end up with house. But watch the number of times she gets it.
Or the kids. Woman starts out poor, woman has a kid, woman divorces two years later, woman keeps kid, woman gets payments GREATER than they would have spent together on the kid being frugal.
Plus the copyright angle of making "full backups" of database based assets is hysterical.
Maybe my betters know why it needs to be a Unique Device ID, but the privacy problems are growing because Unique ID Data all link to itself and it's only smoke and mirrors keeping it all from crashing in. Look at the mess the Social Security Number is in. "For your security, let's have the Last 4 of your Social and thanks to Facebook, your Mother's Maiden Name."
So somewhere either now or later, someone will have a database of phone Unique Device ID's to Names. And oh yes, some of these programs are meddling with contact data too.
So why isn't it just enough for a phone to say "Hi, I'm an Apple iPhone, there are many like me but this one is his"?
This is the third piece of the emotional excuses next to terrorism and copyright. It's the literal top of the chart for hyperbole. How do you even reply to that statement?
And was the US involved in that? Look at the speed of the timing, after all the SOPA bruising.
And we're all the way down here without really addressing what to do about the topic. It's a strange thread.
Actually, borrowing a few stories over, something we'd learn from a mission to Mars is the old-SF mentality of "there's no room for moron managers". Of course, the trouble is, that those types are good at weasel dealing, but stuff like code security/robustness would suddenly matter if we got a broadcast from space like "Sorry to say this folks, the manager who insisted we run the mission 6 months early for political reasons just killed all of us. The embedded Oxygen manager software has a fatal flaw that gives us only two days of air left. We're 6 weeks from home. Oops. So Long and Thanks For All the TPS reports you made us do."
Seriously, the future is coming out like the Family Guy episode where they created some awful WWIII. I want my good old SF future back. I don't even want the flying car. Just one where I can wake up without being...uh... TERRIFIED of the... "Good Guys".
Hmm, this is a slightly strange thread. Several of the key comments are AC.
Trying to be clear - we're talking about why we can't go to Mars, because it's "too expensive", right?
So then we're getting into expenses vs handouts.
So has no one noticed the *other* two colossal drains of money? The Security Theatre (Now Playing!) and the Big Brother Engine. We're spending money to watch ourselves not-spend-money. (Copyright)
What happened is that we have decided/proved we are not socially mature enough to avoid the Eternal Paranoia trap of the Post-911-World - on land!
Can you imagine how tight the conditions are on a Mars mission? All the AC's keep saying "what would a Mars mission teach us?"
Answer: How to survive on REALLY limited resources!
I'm generally in favor of Micropayments on the order of pennies per article. $3 will buy you a week's reading. Currently I don't trust the processors - I would want a double-encryption system so that my general Credit Card doesn't get hacked. Something like a prepaid gift card then buys the credits.
Then it needs to be either "Rich man plan" "Every article you read costs 3 cents" or "Poor Man Plan" "Do you want to spend 3 cents to read this".
Paypal is scary and no one else has gained traction.
You're right in the "coldly rational" sense that the old Economists used to go by. The problem is that there are a couple of smart evil critters at senior manager positions in these companies, who discovered that 20 billion dollars of influence can create the greatest Social Hack of the last 25 years. America forgot that the chief problem of small insular towns with only 200 people in them was that you could never escape The Day That You Insulted Mrs. Chadwick, because Nobody Insults Mrs. Chadwick.
With the advent of city conditions, people became too busy working to worry about The Disgraceful Remark. In a Post Insult-To-Mrs. Chadwick World, the world... in a city... would be... the same!
Now with the social services, the search engines are creating a passive version of that Long Memory, that does nothing for you when you behave, (mostly), but records forever when you don't.
Combined with outright malicious abuse by both the companies and the government, people aren't "just choosing" anymore. They need a little help.
It's definitely Non-Random, and positive. That's why I threw a big range at it.
The easy way to look at it: In those second tier stories that only get some 40 comments, a couple of typical Forrest Posts will waste about 10 comments all by themselves.
No less than NYCL himself complained about this problem, in that story updating us on his ReDigi client.
I got a little lost in the summary, but this entire case seems to hinge on a Venn Diagram.
(Circle) "People and context I expect to see my post" (Bigger Circle) "Context that Facebook actually uses my post, including Truman Show style ads to show that FREDDY LIKES SCHLITZER HOT DOGS!"
Supposing there is no problem that can't be solved by some juicy resources.
(Insert complicated test question.) (Correct but suspicious answer comes back.)
"Congratulations! You have earned your B. S. in Business Management!" "But I am an Engineer!" "No, you clearly don't know the class material. But you have already set up a consulting business. Therefore I automatically forwarded your exam to the Business School!"
We've had 10 years of crappy First Posts but it was in the name of freedom of speech, and NOW we get a "Flag" button? And that actually leads to potentially having the comment *totally disappear*?
Slashdot Mirror
Obligatory!
Don't make Google angry. You wouldn't like it if it became angry.
I was going to guess either Tom Womack or Baldrson, but I'm out of time and I don't think I'm right.
Gem from a lost soul in my childhood:
""What was it when for you said there was maybe like a lot of there but there wasn't and you knew it?"
This is a crucial point - there needs to be a couple of languages that don't need to target enterprise apps, just get a n00b ANYWHERE so that he can play with his pet project. I had a lot of fun as a child with the Commodore 128: 300 lines of code and I was playing my own games including "Navigate the Space Maze without crashing into the walls", custom-warped versions of standard logic puzzle games, dark versions of Eliza, and more. It was the most powerful programming language I have seen in years: draw a line, print text, make a sprite, simple data in variables. It was BASIC beyond steroids - it was on a rocket launcher.
I know, I know, none of that matters In Today's World. But it should. I can't count the times I wanted to build a cute little app to do something fun for a month, only to take a look at virtually all the languages and it a brick wall. Java and Javascript are a mess. So the Processing concept looks promising. Then if someone gets inspired enough to move on, by that point they should be good enough to port over their concept to a heavy lifter language.
Yes, and I am upset.
We power-slammed the weaker version, so they dial up to 11 but we're "bored of that game". I posted a story here, it got voted to red hot, and didn't even make the front page. Instead the slot went to the silly Idle "Yay Copyright Forever" joke post.
"symbolset (646467) * Friend of a Friend on 03:29 PM February 19th, 2012 (#39094617) Homepage
SOPA sponsor Lamar Smith, under the guise of protecting childred from online pornographers, has proposed a new bill that requires every Internet Service Provider to spy on every customer, logging every thing that they do online and keeping records for an entire year. Just in case. So... yeah. It's getting pretty bad.
And of course these records would be discoverable by his Big Media sponsors."
THANK YOU!
Here it is, SOPA-II. Only this time he/they turned it up to 11! They switched the underpinning from Copyright back to the Kiddies again. So now all the toys and maybe more that were in SOPA will show up in this one, and the ready made comeback is all set - "So, you're in favor of Kiddie Abuse? Huh? Huh? You're with us or with them."
Did we use up our only cannonball on the SOPA version?
And I know I recall seeing my /. colleagues predicting this, so here we are. Is that how fast it is? Invoking xkcd:
Congress: "We want SOPA."
Internet: "No."
Congress: "Sudo if you don't let us have SOPA-II you're promoting Kiddie Abuse."
Internet: "Sure, we're tired from the last round, go ahead."
(Tagged 2-20-2012 for my own notes.)
Exactly. I put in a nonsense birthdate that is *younger* than my real date by a few months. Then if anyone would in fact gripe about it, "Oh look, I'm older!" After all the "Security" chatter going around, I'm all for invoking the Security meme to avoid putting my real BDate online.
The Chess entry makes a good sobriety test! : )
http://js1k.com/2010-first/demo/750
Why would they need to read them to compare them? Isn't that what text comparison methods are for? Maybe file comparison methods would work too.
Does Heartland think there are multiple versions of the same document floating around which is why they're hedging?
Well for the record I set my clock an hour and 45 minutes ahead so that I am on time! : )
But yes, $0.95 did seem lower because with 5% MA sales tax before they changed it it was still under a buck, so it was good for impulse sales. (Now that Taxachussetts changed it, it's back to being BS - you have to grab the penny from the Take-A-Penny tray to not bust open a second bill and get a handfull of crappy change.)
But in my opinion the real reason you can't eliminate pennies is that the chaos you'd cause in Accounting would far outstrip the "nicety" of not having pennies. Hell, Nickels are equally silly. Dimes are a close call. I stop my valuation at quarters, which are still good for laundry machines.
If suddenly there were no pennies the entire world would play the Office Space Game of "which way can I pocket the difference to my own benefit."
I dunno,
Firefox has this creepy new dashboard on New Tabs that shows parts of your history, and it's semi-permanent-sorta even if you delete parts of your history in the settings. I didn't do any exhaustive research, just that I noticed a top level partial history delete didn't work. All I'm saying is that stuff like the new Google data-merge is gonna intersect eventually with the cops/govt spreading their fear campaigns.
Sorry, this is flawed in a lot of ways.
In a sense there is no economic advantage between just living together as lovers and being married. One funny example used to be that the standard deductions of one Head of Household and one Single, both triggering on lower overall brackets was cheaper than the married rate on combined income, and other tricks.
Then there's the very real cost of the alimony/child care process. Guy starts out with house, guy should end up with house. But watch the number of times she gets it.
Or the kids. Woman starts out poor, woman has a kid, woman divorces two years later, woman keeps kid, woman gets payments GREATER than they would have spent together on the kid being frugal.
Plus the copyright angle of making "full backups" of database based assets is hysterical.
You beat me to it. Great Minds and all that.
This is why we can't go to Mars - because now we need Watchers to Watch the Watchers.
And the submitter couldn't be bothered to say that the message contains the following dynamically generated info:
"Your IP. Your Browser. Date. This info can be used to identify you"?
So because it's a news story, all of us are on there too.
I'm half dreading they'll actually go after the news-story lookiloos (us) just because we visited.
How about we rephrase it as "Getting your name"?
Maybe my betters know why it needs to be a Unique Device ID, but the privacy problems are growing because Unique ID Data all link to itself and it's only smoke and mirrors keeping it all from crashing in. Look at the mess the Social Security Number is in. "For your security, let's have the Last 4 of your Social and thanks to Facebook, your Mother's Maiden Name."
So somewhere either now or later, someone will have a database of phone Unique Device ID's to Names. And oh yes, some of these programs are meddling with contact data too.
So why isn't it just enough for a phone to say "Hi, I'm an Apple iPhone, there are many like me but this one is his"?
Can we get a new Godwin amendment?
This is the third piece of the emotional excuses next to terrorism and copyright. It's the literal top of the chart for hyperbole. How do you even reply to that statement?
And was the US involved in that? Look at the speed of the timing, after all the SOPA bruising.
And we're all the way down here without really addressing what to do about the topic. It's a strange thread.
Actually, borrowing a few stories over, something we'd learn from a mission to Mars is the old-SF mentality of "there's no room for moron managers". Of course, the trouble is, that those types are good at weasel dealing, but stuff like code security/robustness would suddenly matter if we got a broadcast from space like "Sorry to say this folks, the manager who insisted we run the mission 6 months early for political reasons just killed all of us. The embedded Oxygen manager software has a fatal flaw that gives us only two days of air left. We're 6 weeks from home. Oops. So Long and Thanks For All the TPS reports you made us do."
Seriously, the future is coming out like the Family Guy episode where they created some awful WWIII. I want my good old SF future back. I don't even want the flying car. Just one where I can wake up without being ...uh... TERRIFIED of the ... "Good Guys".
Hmm, this is a slightly strange thread. Several of the key comments are AC.
Trying to be clear - we're talking about why we can't go to Mars, because it's "too expensive", right?
So then we're getting into expenses vs handouts.
So has no one noticed the *other* two colossal drains of money? The Security Theatre (Now Playing!) and the Big Brother Engine. We're spending money to watch ourselves not-spend-money. (Copyright)
What happened is that we have decided/proved we are not socially mature enough to avoid the Eternal Paranoia trap of the Post-911-World - on land!
Can you imagine how tight the conditions are on a Mars mission? All the AC's keep saying "what would a Mars mission teach us?"
Answer: How to survive on REALLY limited resources!
I'm generally in favor of Micropayments on the order of pennies per article. $3 will buy you a week's reading. Currently I don't trust the processors - I would want a double-encryption system so that my general Credit Card doesn't get hacked. Something like a prepaid gift card then buys the credits.
Then it needs to be either "Rich man plan" "Every article you read costs 3 cents" or "Poor Man Plan" "Do you want to spend 3 cents to read this".
Paypal is scary and no one else has gained traction.
Sorry, I think a bigger risk is at stake.
You're right in the "coldly rational" sense that the old Economists used to go by. The problem is that there are a couple of smart evil critters at senior manager positions in these companies, who discovered that 20 billion dollars of influence can create the greatest Social Hack of the last 25 years. America forgot that the chief problem of small insular towns with only 200 people in them was that you could never escape The Day That You Insulted Mrs. Chadwick, because Nobody Insults Mrs. Chadwick.
With the advent of city conditions, people became too busy working to worry about The Disgraceful Remark. In a Post Insult-To-Mrs. Chadwick World, the world ... in a city... would be ... the same!
Now with the social services, the search engines are creating a passive version of that Long Memory, that does nothing for you when you behave, (mostly), but records forever when you don't.
Combined with outright malicious abuse by both the companies and the government, people aren't "just choosing" anymore. They need a little help.
It's definitely Non-Random, and positive. That's why I threw a big range at it.
The easy way to look at it: In those second tier stories that only get some 40 comments, a couple of typical Forrest Posts will waste about 10 comments all by themselves.
No less than NYCL himself complained about this problem, in that story updating us on his ReDigi client.
Already here.
A couple stories over Rick Santorum is upset at Google and the site that dissents with his views. (Grammar is a little shaky, I know.)
A few stories below that is the journalist who found Death in 140 Characters.
The news is rapidly overtaking the Tinfoil Hat crowd's theories.
I got a little lost in the summary, but this entire case seems to hinge on a Venn Diagram.
(Circle) "People and context I expect to see my post"
(Bigger Circle) "Context that Facebook actually uses my post, including Truman Show style ads to show that FREDDY LIKES SCHLITZER HOT DOGS!"
Aah, the flaw of old style knowledge.
Supposing there is no problem that can't be solved by some juicy resources.
(Insert complicated test question.)
(Correct but suspicious answer comes back.)
"Congratulations! You have earned your B. S. in Business Management!"
"But I am an Engineer!"
"No, you clearly don't know the class material. But you have already set up a consulting business. Therefore I automatically forwarded your exam to the Business School!"
Problem Solved : )
Wow, that's right.
We've had 10 years of crappy First Posts but it was in the name of freedom of speech, and NOW we get a "Flag" button? And that actually leads to potentially having the comment *totally disappear*?
When did THAT arrive?