No they sell the lists so it's a lot of spammers, and the ones who spam don't have to be tech savvy, just "follow this list of steps" and you're "leveraging the power of the internet".
And the software is usually really rinky dink (low quality). So even if it does keep a list of addresses that didn't deliver, it would require said non-tech savvy (can't type, barely can use a mouse, etc) user to manually remove the non-deliverables from the database.
"The main effect of these is to *increase* the spammer's efforts. In many cases, this now involves virus infected zombies sending email. Thus, the main effect of these is to make spammers try harder to infect more machines."
And stalling will still slow down those zonbies. The more who stall, the more the advantages are in doing so. Yes, more zombies, but that's like telling your friends to drink and drive just because other people do it.
The fact is that by having the possiblities of zombies they're forcing the need of better security or you will see the results in your face (slow computer, popups, identity theft and etc).
So, on the spam front, it is not going to hurt to slow down the spammers, and nobody is saying to stop filtering. Doing both is better than filtering alone, it's that simple.
Yes, I'm interested, but you don't have an email address configured.
What do you do with the message after they've put a message in "False_Positives"?
Also, I'm using SA now, and have taken a quick look at Dspam. Does it have a global bayesian database, and a user database, or something similar? That's what I'm looking for mostly.
A general rule is always try to use an existing OSS project. Or at least it should be...
What's interesting is that most large OSS projects today have started very small. Though the majority still has the origional creator as part of the community, though some have been abandoned.
Damn, does that mean AOL has nine class C ip address blocks they send email from? (look at the previous post -- there are 5/24 entries and two/23 (which are two class C networks) entries).
You let your users run with administrator priveleges?
I admit to doing so on a temporary basis when a program doesn't work with normal "restricted" user privs and they "need it now". But then find the files they want to access and modify the permissions there and lower the privs to "restricted" again.
As soon as I found out the entire file was required to finish transferring before you could access the first byte -- that killed its usefullness for me.
Also, OpenAFS has a supported stable (final stages of beta) version on windows. Coda has a version available for testing on windows, but it's pre-alpha right now.
And anyone who has used coda for their home directory will tell you the troubles with conflicted files. Not library files; it has to do with the offline feature.
So right now coda is a good test for a multiple non-synchronized writeable volume archatecture, and OpenAFS avoids those problems and works well right now.
Even though the letters of the BSD license allows you to use the code without asking, the Linux developers asked to use the BSD networking code (remember, they'd have to relicense it as GPL). The BSD guys said no. There was already network code in linux at the time, so that was improved instead.
I'm no expert on this, and am only recalling threads I read of others recalling events so I'm probably a bit off on the details.
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Why does everyone think they'll save a lot of space if they don't backup the applications?
In most cases the data is several times larger than the applications.
Then just have the Japanese actors speak in english. Oh wait...
You think it's one spammer?
No they sell the lists so it's a lot of spammers, and the ones who spam don't have to be tech savvy, just "follow this list of steps" and you're "leveraging the power of the internet".
And the software is usually really rinky dink (low quality). So even if it does keep a list of addresses that didn't deliver, it would require said non-tech savvy (can't type, barely can use a mouse, etc) user to manually remove the non-deliverables from the database.
"The main effect of these is to *increase* the spammer's efforts. In many cases, this now involves virus infected zombies sending email. Thus, the main effect of these is to make spammers try harder to infect more machines."
And stalling will still slow down those zonbies. The more who stall, the more the advantages are in doing so. Yes, more zombies, but that's like telling your friends to drink and drive just because other people do it.
The fact is that by having the possiblities of zombies they're forcing the need of better security or you will see the results in your face (slow computer, popups, identity theft and etc).
So, on the spam front, it is not going to hurt to slow down the spammers, and nobody is saying to stop filtering. Doing both is better than filtering alone, it's that simple.
Yes, I'm interested, but you don't have an email address configured.
What do you do with the message after they've put a message in "False_Positives"?
Also, I'm using SA now, and have taken a quick look at Dspam. Does it have a global bayesian database, and a user database, or something similar? That's what I'm looking for mostly.
Thanks
I agree.
A general rule is always try to use an existing OSS project. Or at least it should be...
What's interesting is that most large OSS projects today have started very small. Though the majority still has the origional creator as part of the community, though some have been abandoned.
(D) is happening in the open source community. Just follow what is happening on the Fedora and Debian (and I'm sure others as well) development lists.
What's wrong with that phrase?
Must.............. Not............... Use........... Mod........... Point..............
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Oh, wait! I don't have any.
Is that the one next to the sun machine on the left?
And give you a big ass fucking bill!
It isn't targeting the windows platform yet though.
Any idea on when they're going to merge with the main gaim project?
But at least on windows, even if you use the smaller icons, you can't make the window any narrower (because of the buttons at the bottom).
Gaim is using about 10MB of ram on my win2k system though.
How does that compare (in memory usage) to running several other im clients, or trillian?
Not yet, but there is another project that adds video support. I forget the name though.
There is a girl at work that loves trillian, and won't use gaim.
I think trillian looks nicer though. Is there any works for skinning support ala xmms or etc?
Damn, does that mean AOL has nine class C ip address blocks they send email from? (look at the previous post -- there are 5 /24 entries and two /23 (which are two class C networks) entries).
That's a max of 2,277 outgoing mail servers!
Are you kidding me?
You let your users run with administrator priveleges?
I admit to doing so on a temporary basis when a program doesn't work with normal "restricted" user privs and they "need it now". But then find the files they want to access and modify the permissions there and lower the privs to "restricted" again.
Oh, if I only had mod points!
Use OpenAFS instead.
As soon as I found out the entire file was required to finish transferring before you could access the first byte -- that killed its usefullness for me.
Also, OpenAFS has a supported stable (final stages of beta) version on windows. Coda has a version available for testing on windows, but it's pre-alpha right now.
And anyone who has used coda for their home directory will tell you the troubles with conflicted files. Not library files; it has to do with the offline feature.
So right now coda is a good test for a multiple non-synchronized writeable volume archatecture, and OpenAFS avoids those problems and works well right now.
Care to point out some links that prove your point?
Are you another one of those idiots that doesn't/won't spank their children too?
"Don't do that, that's bad now go take a time out"
hahahahahaha yeah that'll work.
Yes there are exceptions, and hitting a child anywhere but on their butt is bad IMO. Such as slapping the face or etc.
Out of courtecy.
Even though the letters of the BSD license allows you to use the code without asking, the Linux developers asked to use the BSD networking code (remember, they'd have to relicense it as GPL). The BSD guys said no. There was already network code in linux at the time, so that was improved instead.
I'm no expert on this, and am only recalling threads I read of others recalling events so I'm probably a bit off on the details.
Mike
Damn that car has some fscked up shocks!
And a little while later you realize what you saw earlier...
You'll get a better look if you add "korea" to you search.
p 3?oid=8 7488
n ight+kore a&btnG=Search&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2cof f=1
One page I found was here:
http://epod.usra.edu/archive/epodviewer.ph
Found with this search:
http://images.google.com/images?q=earth+
And, what movie would that be?