good lord how many times will the DRM argument be trotted out. I can tell you from hands on experience, nothing in Vista is preventing me from backing up my DVDs with DVD Decrypter or similar tools. Nothing is stopping me from ripping my CD's with winlame either. Even Windows Media Player gives you the option to disable DRM when you rip to WMA.
so....... what exactly is the argument here? it seems to ME that it's "i bought this damn song and windows won't let me get around the DRM". what MS is doing is no different than any other company that produces and OS. Do you REALLY expect them to openly facilitate circumventing DRM? hello lawsuit... there are plenty of apps that run just fine in Vista that let you do this.
it comes down to this: use/buy DRM'd media, play by their rules. don't blame the OS.
what's the point? pick a genre or format. every station that fits it plays the same tracks. the only real basis for comparison anymore is who has the least annoying dj(s).
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now, just replace all occurances in your post of microsoft OS's with Apple and you may be accurate. i'd say microsoft has historically done a pretty good job of backward compatibility, maybe at the expense of a more secure, stable and speedy OS. Apple is much more inclined to modify their OS at the expense of compatibility. Microsoft can't win can they? If they limit compatibility with older apps to improve the OS they lose. If they keep allowing DOS programs to run, they lose.
I've had only 1 major compatibility issue (hardware) so far and no software issues. Apple should be flogged for this little publicity stunt. The RTM (release to manufacture, aka gold, aka final effing version) has been available for months. Seems pretty convenient that apple could pinpoint and fix the issue so quickly, but couldn't have done it earlier than this. Now, maybe the folks at apple didn't say "hey lets sit on this issue so we can get press", but maybe they said "hey, let's not mess with vista and see what the users flush out, we might get some press"
WOW, you really should get out more. If you can't tell the difference between a regular DVD and HDDVD/Blue-Ray when shown on an HD tv, i would recommend an eye exam. I was not convinced until i saw it in person. do all movies benefit? well, not the same amount. but the ones that do really showcase the technology. i have yet to make the HD dvd jump, but even my mom is wowed by my new 65" 1080p DLP when showing HD content from my cable box (only 1080i unfortunately). and believe me, she was satisfied with her 27" standard def tv.
hey, 5 years ago, your options for tagging/organizing your images was more sparse. now... come on. photoshop has an image gallery with this ability. you'd figure a "pro" would have photoshop. how about picasa... windows vista has some nice photo management tools now... blah blah blah. like the other poster, i would think a "pro" would have purchased one of the numerous "pro"/business/studio oriented photo management suites. hey why not build your OWN website to host your images. how cool would that be. and no yahoo!
i just can't get my head around a "pro" using only an online repository to manage photos and metadata AND not having a backup. weird. why don't they go to a photo site like photo.net? there are some amazing portfolios there from "pro" and non "pro" photographers. metadata, citiquing, rating. and no yahoo login to bunch ones panties.
i get the feeling that some people will never be happy. ohhh! flickr. but i have to use yahoo to login. i will never use flickr again because of yahoo. lol. sounds like it must not be such a hot-shit site anyway.
time to grow up kids. hey, i've had a yahoo id pretty much as long as they've been available, and i guess i should get it tattooed on me so when i meet people they will know how cool i am and how old skooool. there are some whiny people out there.
christ you sound like my mother in law. you do know that you don't HAVE to let them install/install yourself all the "custom browsers", media players etc? i have yet to have an ISP that "requires" that, and have had no issues using the internet without their baggage installed. you can always uninstall you know... so far this has held true for AT&T Cable, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, SBC DSL.
the m-in-law was amazed that she didn't have to have her pc clogged up with that crap and could just use Firefox...
i wonder if these people are using the same Vista i am. i am really worried that there are a couple of baboons installing and testing for the media these days.
4 year old HP scanner , no vista driver support, used XP drivers and LO! scanner works...
2 year old Canon digital camera, no vista driver support, used XP drivers and LO! camera works...
2 year old Canon digital camcorder, no vista driver support used XP drivers and LO! camcorder works...
Sony/Ericsson walkman phone and music transfer/sync app, no vista driver support, installed anyway and LO! phone works.
you see a pattern here? i have more examples if needed.
and another thing. if you installed vista on a laptop, you are mental. XP barely runs right on a typical corporate issue Dell laptop (1yr old, 1.5GB ram). between logging on/off of domain, startup/shutdown scripts, network connections, etc. xp takes from 5-10 minutes to boot/shutdown. don't base your opinion of vista on a laptop install until you run it on hardware made for it.
ok, if you got your Zen to work in vista, i want to know how. this has been the one thing that has pissed me off since i upgraded. i can't get anything to see it... might be because i did the playsForSure firmware upgrade...
good for you.
all i can say is i have been running vista RTM since it became available on MSDN and it runs great.
i have yet to see it use more then 20% of 1GB at idle.
Athlon64 3000+
1GB RAM
GeForce 6600GT 128 MB
the spec above runs everything i throw at it without any noticable performance issues.
a sample of these would include: FarCry, Half-Life2, Prey, SplinterCell: Double Agent all at high resolution and except for Splinter Cell, with all details turned up. Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop CS, DVD Shrink, Nero 7, Dreamweaver 8, various media converters/encoders. i could go on all day.
here's a thought folks, try installing the OS on a decent PC and working with it before making uninformed, knee jerk comments based on a friend of a friend hosing his system while using an under-spec machine and running Beta 1. do you make all your decisions based on internet forum chatter? i hope not. funny isn't it that this kind of crap would get blasted if it was about OS X or Linux.
please note that nowhere in this post did i say "windows vista pwns " or "Vista is perfect, blows goats."
mods, how in the name of all that is quasi-holy can you rate this 30% crap "informative?" hey, the moon is made of green cheese because the guy in the next cube knows a cheese making astronomer. so it's soooo true. yeah. uh-huh. you may now mark this paragraph "informative"
wow, the number of people bashing hdtv that follow on with the statement "but i dont have an hdtv yet" is mind blowing. are you the same folks that tell people to shut the hell up because they don't know what they are talking about when said people post Apple comments but don't have the latest iThinkThisMakesMeACoolAndInterestingPerson product? lame, very lame.
"SD is good enough for me!", "there's no content", "hdtv is too expensive", "cable is too expensive"... blah blah blah. or is it bah bah bah?
1. SD may be good enough for you. that's great. but for others, it's not. doesn't exactly invalidate the concept of hdtv does it?
2. there's plenty of content (always room for more though). that damn wiki list posted earlier was by no means all inclusive. What you mean to say, is "there's no content i want to watch". fair enough. again, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't want to watch.
a common misconception is that, because abc/nbc/cbs only rehash their regular shows, all channels do the same. DiscoveryHD is not a mirror of what's on Discovery... Mostly original content, shot in HD for their exclusive use. I just recorded an HD converted showing of "A Clockwork Orange" on UHD or INHD the other day. it looks way better than my DVD copy. I swear some of you have not had cable in 10 years and think that there have been no changes...
3. It can be expensive. However, a lot of the same people saying "65 inch TV's are stupid, i just need a small tv" are apparently forgetting that the small tv they need won't cost as nearly much as said 65 inch behemoth. try shopping around.
4. I get a package deal here (n. tx) 6MB internet + digital cable + 1 premium channel + HD DVR for $75/ month. I don't think you will find a better deal short of just not getting service. however, i had to research and i had to ASK. They won't hand you a deal on a plate. and i'm sorry, if all i had to watch were the free OTA channels, i wouldn't bother. in fact we just got cable again after a year off where we did nothing but netflix.
whatever. this kneejerk reaction by people who don't have an HDTV and/or don't have cable/dish sounds like luddism(sp?) or sour grapes to me. if you don't want or need it, or can't afford or don't want to pay for it, that's great. just try dropping the holier than thou 'tude.
IT CAN'T REMEMBER THAT YOU WANT TO STAY LOGGED IN! That checkbox on the login page, as far as I can tell, DOES. NOTHING.
it remembers your logon id.. thats it. not passwords. keep in mind that a lot of the users of myspace access it outside of their personal computers. easier to make a user type in a password every time than to deal with "someone is using my account" issues.
don't believe me?
1. stop by your local community college.
2. drop into the library, computer lab, where ever they have internet access.
3. go to yahoo mail, msn mail etc.
5. count how many accounts come up still logged in.
6. optional PROFIT!
i like to send the person an email from them, to them, letting them know they are lucky i'm an honest guy and to remember to log out next time. wish i could see them when they read that one...
you do know, you CAN tell firefox/ie to remember your id and password? problem solved.
ha, before i got rid of my benz, i used to use the rear fogs, basically the tail lights go to high power. jerk behind me sees a flash of red, while i keep going the same speed, instant back off. hehe. i miss that feature.
i agree, i've been running the final build of Vista Ultimate since it was released to MSDN subscribers a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't go back to XP (although i do have a ghosted pre-vista copy of my pc handy). most of the new features or enhancments are not earth shattering, but taken as a whole, they provide a much improved windows experience. search is light years ahead of XP. Aero is not a revolution, but it is nice. no complaints on stability either at this point. If you ever thought 'damn, xp is so close', then move to vista. is it perfect, no. but it's a positive step forward.
i wouldn't consider my pc 'high end', and i get great performance in vista.
Athlon64 3200+
2x 250 GB 7200rpm Maxtor
1GB PC3200 DDR
Geforce 6600GT 128MB
and no, i'm not just checking email, these apps work as well or better:
HL2 & STEAM,Prey,FEAR,CIV3, Photoshop CS, DVD Decrypter,DVD Shrink, AVAST!, Firefox,
NERO 7, TMPGenc, Newsbin Pro.
i will file a complaint about 'plays for sure'... my Creative Zen don't connect to my PC anymore. damn you vista.
why does dvorak use so many buzzzzz words. i used to like his articles, but it's getting harder to stand him. he sounds like a commercial.
"Replace the BSOD with ads. They'll make billions!"
Comments like that make me wonder if you ever use XP day to day. funny thing... i have only received 2 BSOD's since picking up XP when it was released. Both were related to a crap-ola generic geforce 6600 gt i installed. Sent it back, got a PNY and no more problems. I throw a lot of crap at it and it never hiccups.
I'm using the RTM version of Vista Ultimate right now and it's stable as hell. If only splinter cell: double agent were so good. buggiest POS software i've ever had the misfortune to install. and that was before i went to Vista.
exactly. I have pretty much topped out on my video card. But no one is making high end AGP cards anymore. sooo. i have to move to PCIe. new mobo/cpu/ram. probably might as well get some sata drives while i'm at it. did i mention a new PCIe video card? Which is the only component i WANTED to upgrade anyway. I'm holding of until 2q 2007 to see what core2 prices do, but with the cost of Vista Ultimate, it may be cheaper to just buy a complete system. And no i'm not running some ancient system. Athlon 64 3200+/1GB RAM... would still need another gig to run vista well.
We're at one of those points where 'upgrade' is just not practical.
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wonder what they will name this?
"BestSpeak?"
"BuyEasy?"
"SpeakEasy Highspeed Broadband DSL Internet Service presented by Best Buy"
I have visions of non stop best buy pop ups when you sign on. gahhhh.
good lord how many times will the DRM argument be trotted out. I can tell you from hands on experience, nothing in Vista is preventing me from backing up my DVDs with DVD Decrypter or similar tools. Nothing is stopping me from ripping my CD's with winlame either. Even Windows Media Player gives you the option to disable DRM when you rip to WMA. so....... what exactly is the argument here? it seems to ME that it's "i bought this damn song and windows won't let me get around the DRM". what MS is doing is no different than any other company that produces and OS. Do you REALLY expect them to openly facilitate circumventing DRM? hello lawsuit... there are plenty of apps that run just fine in Vista that let you do this. it comes down to this: use/buy DRM'd media, play by their rules. don't blame the OS.
what's the point? pick a genre or format. every station that fits it plays the same tracks. the only real basis for comparison anymore is who has the least annoying dj(s).
now, just replace all occurances in your post of microsoft OS's with Apple and you may be accurate. i'd say microsoft has historically done a pretty good job of backward compatibility, maybe at the expense of a more secure, stable and speedy OS. Apple is much more inclined to modify their OS at the expense of compatibility. Microsoft can't win can they? If they limit compatibility with older apps to improve the OS they lose. If they keep allowing DOS programs to run, they lose.
I've had only 1 major compatibility issue (hardware) so far and no software issues. Apple should be flogged for this little publicity stunt. The RTM (release to manufacture, aka gold, aka final effing version) has been available for months. Seems pretty convenient that apple could pinpoint and fix the issue so quickly, but couldn't have done it earlier than this. Now, maybe the folks at apple didn't say "hey lets sit on this issue so we can get press", but maybe they said "hey, let's not mess with vista and see what the users flush out, we might get some press"
WOW, you really should get out more. If you can't tell the difference between a regular DVD and HDDVD/Blue-Ray when shown on an HD tv, i would recommend an eye exam. I was not convinced until i saw it in person. do all movies benefit? well, not the same amount. but the ones that do really showcase the technology.
i have yet to make the HD dvd jump, but even my mom is wowed by my new 65" 1080p DLP when showing HD content from my cable box (only 1080i unfortunately). and believe me, she was satisfied with her 27" standard def tv.
hey, 5 years ago, your options for tagging/organizing your images was more sparse. now... come on. photoshop has an image gallery with this ability. you'd figure a "pro" would have photoshop. how about picasa... windows vista has some nice photo management tools now... blah blah blah. like the other poster, i would think a "pro" would have purchased one of the numerous "pro"/business/studio oriented photo management suites. hey why not build your OWN website to host your images. how cool would that be. and no yahoo!
i just can't get my head around a "pro" using only an online repository to manage photos and metadata AND not having a backup. weird. why don't they go to a photo site like photo.net? there are some amazing portfolios there from "pro" and non "pro" photographers. metadata, citiquing, rating. and no yahoo login to bunch ones panties.
i get the feeling that some people will never be happy. ohhh! flickr. but i have to use yahoo to login. i will never use flickr again because of yahoo. lol. sounds like it must not be such a hot-shit site anyway.
time to grow up kids. hey, i've had a yahoo id pretty much as long as they've been available, and i guess i should get it tattooed on me so when i meet people they will know how cool i am and how old skooool. there are some whiny people out there.
christ you sound like my mother in law. you do know that you don't HAVE to let them install /install yourself all the "custom browsers", media players etc? i have yet to have an ISP that "requires" that, and have had no issues using the internet without their baggage installed. you can always uninstall you know... so far this has held true for AT&T Cable, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, SBC DSL.
the m-in-law was amazed that she didn't have to have her pc clogged up with that crap and could just use Firefox...
i wonder if these people are using the same Vista i am. i am really worried that there are a couple of baboons installing and testing for the media these days.
/shutdown scripts, network connections, etc. xp takes from 5-10 minutes to boot/shutdown. don't base your opinion of vista on a laptop install until you run it on hardware made for it.
4 year old HP scanner , no vista driver support, used XP drivers and LO! scanner works...
2 year old Canon digital camera, no vista driver support, used XP drivers and LO! camera works...
2 year old Canon digital camcorder, no vista driver support used XP drivers and LO! camcorder works...
Sony/Ericsson walkman phone and music transfer/sync app, no vista driver support, installed anyway and LO! phone works.
you see a pattern here? i have more examples if needed.
and another thing. if you installed vista on a laptop, you are mental. XP barely runs right on a typical corporate issue Dell laptop (1yr old, 1.5GB ram). between logging on/off of domain, startup
ok, if you got your Zen to work in vista, i want to know how. this has been the one thing that has pissed me off since i upgraded. i can't get anything to see it... might be because i did the playsForSure firmware upgrade...
good for you.
all i can say is i have been running vista RTM since it became available on MSDN and it runs great. i have yet to see it use more then 20% of 1GB at idle.
Athlon64 3000+
1GB RAM
GeForce 6600GT 128 MB
the spec above runs everything i throw at it without any noticable performance issues. a sample of these would include: FarCry, Half-Life2, Prey, SplinterCell: Double Agent all at high resolution and except for Splinter Cell, with all details turned up. Adobe Premier, Adobe Photoshop CS, DVD Shrink, Nero 7, Dreamweaver 8, various media converters/encoders. i could go on all day.
here's a thought folks, try installing the OS on a decent PC and working with it before making uninformed, knee jerk comments based on a friend of a friend hosing his system while using an under-spec machine and running Beta 1. do you make all your decisions based on internet forum chatter? i hope not. funny isn't it that this kind of crap would get blasted if it was about OS X or Linux.
please note that nowhere in this post did i say "windows vista pwns " or "Vista is perfect, blows goats."
mods, how in the name of all that is quasi-holy can you rate this 30% crap "informative?" hey, the moon is made of green cheese because the guy in the next cube knows a cheese making astronomer. so it's soooo true. yeah. uh-huh. you may now mark this paragraph "informative"
wow, the number of people bashing hdtv that follow on with the statement "but i dont have an hdtv yet" is mind blowing. are you the same folks that tell people to shut the hell up because they don't know what they are talking about when said people post Apple comments but don't have the latest iThinkThisMakesMeACoolAndInterestingPerson product? lame, very lame.
"SD is good enough for me!", "there's no content", "hdtv is too expensive", "cable is too expensive"... blah blah blah. or is it bah bah bah?
1. SD may be good enough for you. that's great. but for others, it's not. doesn't exactly invalidate the concept of hdtv does it?
2. there's plenty of content (always room for more though). that damn wiki list posted earlier was by no means all inclusive. What you mean to say, is "there's no content i want to watch". fair enough. again, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't want to watch. a common misconception is that, because abc/nbc/cbs only rehash their regular shows, all channels do the same. DiscoveryHD is not a mirror of what's on Discovery... Mostly original content, shot in HD for their exclusive use. I just recorded an HD converted showing of "A Clockwork Orange" on UHD or INHD the other day. it looks way better than my DVD copy. I swear some of you have not had cable in 10 years and think that there have been no changes...
3. It can be expensive. However, a lot of the same people saying "65 inch TV's are stupid, i just need a small tv" are apparently forgetting that the small tv they need won't cost as nearly much as said 65 inch behemoth. try shopping around.
4. I get a package deal here (n. tx) 6MB internet + digital cable + 1 premium channel + HD DVR for $75/ month. I don't think you will find a better deal short of just not getting service. however, i had to research and i had to ASK. They won't hand you a deal on a plate. and i'm sorry, if all i had to watch were the free OTA channels, i wouldn't bother. in fact we just got cable again after a year off where we did nothing but netflix.
whatever. this kneejerk reaction by people who don't have an HDTV and/or don't have cable/dish sounds like luddism(sp?) or sour grapes to me. if you don't want or need it, or can't afford or don't want to pay for it, that's great. just try dropping the holier than thou 'tude.
IT CAN'T REMEMBER THAT YOU WANT TO STAY LOGGED IN! That checkbox on the login page, as far as I can tell, DOES. NOTHING. it remembers your logon id.. thats it. not passwords. keep in mind that a lot of the users of myspace access it outside of their personal computers. easier to make a user type in a password every time than to deal with "someone is using my account" issues.
don't believe me?
1. stop by your local community college.
2. drop into the library, computer lab, where ever they have internet access.
3. go to yahoo mail, msn mail etc.
5. count how many accounts come up still logged in.
6. optional PROFIT!
i like to send the person an email from them, to them, letting them know they are lucky i'm an honest guy and to remember to log out next time. wish i could see them when they read that one... you do know, you CAN tell firefox/ie to remember your id and password? problem solved.
ha, before i got rid of my benz, i used to use the rear fogs, basically the tail lights go to high power. jerk behind me sees a flash of red, while i keep going the same speed, instant back off. hehe. i miss that feature.
i agree, i've been running the final build of Vista Ultimate since it was released to MSDN subscribers a couple of weeks ago. I wouldn't go back to XP (although i do have a ghosted pre-vista copy of my pc handy). most of the new features or enhancments are not earth shattering, but taken as a whole, they provide a much improved windows experience. search is light years ahead of XP. Aero is not a revolution, but it is nice. no complaints on stability either at this point. If you ever thought 'damn, xp is so close', then move to vista. is it perfect, no. but it's a positive step forward. i wouldn't consider my pc 'high end', and i get great performance in vista. Athlon64 3200+ 2x 250 GB 7200rpm Maxtor 1GB PC3200 DDR Geforce 6600GT 128MB and no, i'm not just checking email, these apps work as well or better: HL2 & STEAM,Prey,FEAR,CIV3, Photoshop CS, DVD Decrypter,DVD Shrink, AVAST!, Firefox, NERO 7, TMPGenc, Newsbin Pro. i will file a complaint about 'plays for sure'... my Creative Zen don't connect to my PC anymore. damn you vista. why does dvorak use so many buzzzzz words. i used to like his articles, but it's getting harder to stand him. he sounds like a commercial.
"Replace the BSOD with ads. They'll make billions!" Comments like that make me wonder if you ever use XP day to day. funny thing... i have only received 2 BSOD's since picking up XP when it was released. Both were related to a crap-ola generic geforce 6600 gt i installed. Sent it back, got a PNY and no more problems. I throw a lot of crap at it and it never hiccups. I'm using the RTM version of Vista Ultimate right now and it's stable as hell. If only splinter cell: double agent were so good. buggiest POS software i've ever had the misfortune to install. and that was before i went to Vista.
exactly. I have pretty much topped out on my video card. But no one is making high end AGP cards anymore. sooo. i have to move to PCIe. new mobo/cpu/ram. probably might as well get some sata drives while i'm at it. did i mention a new PCIe video card? Which is the only component i WANTED to upgrade anyway. I'm holding of until 2q 2007 to see what core2 prices do, but with the cost of Vista Ultimate, it may be cheaper to just buy a complete system. And no i'm not running some ancient system. Athlon 64 3200+/1GB RAM... would still need another gig to run vista well. We're at one of those points where 'upgrade' is just not practical.
ohhh i can't wait to see if Windows LIVE finally allows me to play HALO on my PC against all these Xbox owners. prepare to be pwned. mouse/kb rules.