Having made the same mistake with my oldest, I wish I had mod points for this guy. He is correct. Nurture that which your child is interested in... don't force him into things he has no desire to do. Guess what, maybe you're a coding geek and your son is going to be a football hero. Maybe you're a nuclear physicist, and your son is going to be a used car salesman. There's nothing wrong with any of that, as long as you bring him up correctly... with ethics, morals, respect for others, and ambition.
That wasn't Robotron. Robotron had no speech. You're thinking of either Gorf or Wizard of Wor, I believe. They were both very early games that used the Vortax SC-01 phoneme synthesizer.
In the original Quest for Glory game (back when it was named Hero's Quest - not sure about after the name change, but probably) you could get into debug mode by entering "razzledazzlerootbeer"... then there were various numeric codes that would do different neat things.
Unfortunately, it also ruined the game for me because I hadn't finished it "properly" yet. I must go back and play through it correctly one day.
Just an FYI, not all skinheads are neo-Nazis or, for that matter, even racist. In fact, I've known more skinheads who would give you a beating for saying something racist than the type you're alluding to.
Painting with a broad brush is usually not a good idea, no matter what your intentions are.
Both of these statements are very much what I've been thinking, but I've been unable to put it as succinctly as that. If I hadn't already posted a few times in this thread I'd mod you up.
I've thought about this long and hard, but I cannot escape the conclusion that we're being terribly unfair to our kids by turning the stories WE loved as children (as did the generation before us) into fare for adults, just because we don't want to give our toys up to the younger generations.
but I cannot shake the feeling that we're robbing the next generation because we don't want to grow up, but we want grownup things.
You'll notice that Dr. Manhattan's exposure was the last in my list, and that was with reason... it was never presented "that way", although some parents would probably find it distasteful whether their kids saw it or not. That's mostly because of our societal mores.
In the meantime, you reminded me of a few more scenes that only the most irresponsible person could assume would be acceptable viewing for an 11 year old:
Cold-blooded murder of a pregnant woman
The entire child killer scene
Young Rorschach biting another boy's cheek off
Not to mention, how is a child supposed to understand the whole theme of Rorschach's mother being a prostitute?
How about Sally having gone back and willingly sleeping with the Comedian AFTER he tried to rape her (and knocked her around)? If a kid is old enough to understand the attempted-rape scene, but not really old enough to grasp just how fucked-up people can be, then that whole theme will confuse the hell out of him (or, worse, her) and maybe plant a terrible seed that will bloom into some warped perceptions.
Let's be honest with ourselves here... kids today, despite being coddled and sheltered from the outside world, are getting more and more fucked up. IMHO, that's because parents aren't paying enough, or the right kind of, attention to their kids. They assume, incorrectly, that there's nothing in their homes that can damage them, and that all the danger is outside, lurking the streets with a trench coat and a bag of lollipops. Meanwhile, they let their young children watch grown-up movies, TV shows, play M-rated video games, and surf the web unsupervised. Nobody wants to lord over their children the way we perceived that our parents smothered us... but, sorry, giving them free reign is a recipe for disaster. The new-age parenting techniques of constant praise and minimal discipline are failing. We've got 12 year old girls dressing like whores. If you let your pre-teen wear a pair of sweatpants with ANYTHING written across the seat, or a t-shirt that says "sexpot" or similar, you are a failure as a parent.
Of course, this is my opinion, and I'm sure I'll get modded down and probably a hundred responses of "my partner and I let our 6 year old use the computer unsupervised and she has never looked at porn and is a polite and independent little treasure!" Great, good luck with that in another 6 years.
Yeah... Star Wars, he knows that's fake... but say, like, Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull... well, it "took place" a long time ago, and to a 9 year old (not to mention a lot of adults), aliens are plausible, etc. In his mind, it could have happened.
Point is, even in something geared more for a younger audience like Spiderman... if a person gets slammed into a brick wall and falls 20 feet to the street below, hitting his head on a dumpster on his way down... he's NOT getting up and shaking it off like in the movies. But, a younger kid isn't going to realize it on his own.
If you think, after having seen it, that Watchmen would be in any way acceptable for an 11 year old, your nephew's parents should get a restraining order.
Let's see, aside from the handful of scenes of graphic violence (sawing off of arms, anyone?), how about the attempted rape, the sex scenes and, yes, the "blue schlong" that nobody can seem to wrap their minds around.
This isn't directed at you, but many people today seem to almost WANT to expose kids to as much adult material as possible. Whether it's to prove they're "enlightened", or because they saw boobies in Nightmare on Elm St when they were 11 and thought it was cool, or what, I don't know. "Pretty screwed up world we live in", indeed.
You can take an 11 year old to an R-rated movie, sure... but as a parent or guardian (IOW- an adult), you're supposed to exercise judgement based on your knowledge of the material, and the maturity of the child. Children DO imitate movies, whether you want to admit it or not. Face it, you yourself probably wish you could fight like Jason Bourne or sleep with pretty much any girl you want, like James Bond... but social structures and fear of looking like a moron (probably) prevent you from acting it out. Those social rules are much less effective on a child, which is why you see them acting out their favorite movie characters on the playground.
In short, and I am sure this is an unpopular opinion these days, children are less capable than adults are when it comes to separating fantasy from reality. Hell, my 9 year old still occasionally asks me "did this really happen?" when we're watching a movie that is at least halfway plausible.
As it so happens, every single police officer I know on a personal level is the polar opposite of that stereotype.
But then, I've never personally been molested by a Catholic priest, or had my money embezzled by a Republican, or lacked rhythm because I'm white or been in any other way victimized by one of the stereotypes that it's OK to believe in.
No, the original Fun Club Newsletter only had two or three issues and was really just a folded 11x17" sheet, so basically four 8x11" pages. In three colors... black, blue, faded red.
If the docs do anything, they'll probably put you on Androgel, and not enough of it... but hopefully you'll be responsive to it. Problem is, if/when you go off it, you really hit bottom for a while until, hopefully, your natural production kicks back in. But, if it's that low now... well...
IANAD, but I have done a fair amount of research on this subject. Are you eating enough healthy fats? Don't be fooled by the logical-sounding but erroneous assertion that eating fat = being fat. Men NEED healthy fats (monounsaturated, polyunsaturated) to produce testosterone. Also, don't eat anything out of a box... at the supermarket, stick to the perimeter of the store. Meats, veggies (especially broccoli)... nuts... stuff like that. Also make sure you're getting enough zinc (take 50mg before bed).
Avoid putting any of your food in plastic containers, but DEFINITELY DO NOT heat up foods in plastic containers!!! Put them on paper, metal or glass first!
Also, try lifting weights as opposed to running. Steady-state cardio has been shown to decrease testosterone production, whereas anaerobic exercise increases it (it's more complicated than that, but I'll let you do the research if you like). I also think it's a hell of a lot more fun, and the results are more dramatic IMHO. 30 minutes 3x a week, rest on the weekends.
If I might suggest some reading, pick up Testosterone Advantage Plan by Lou Schuler... an excellent and illuminating book (again, IMHO) that examines the current trends of lower testosterone levels in current times, as well as providing an excellent dietary and exercise plan. It also explains how the nutritional guidelines we've been following for the last 30 years is just wrong.
Well, I'm probably going to get modded offtopic or something, but I wanted to reach out and offer some help (assuming, of course, you want it). Best of luck to you!!
Well, they wanted to try physical excersize and a proper diet to see if they could pull them in line without using steroids or hormones, but I just seem to lack the willpower to actually follow through. I can do it for a month or so, but then I just loose it.
I haven't yet been back to someone about it, though when I do I'm going to ask if we can try an artificial solution at the start, to give me a running start. From what I understand, most of my motivation problems are rooted in the imbalance to begin with. One of those 'vicious circle' things.
So they've done the bloodwork and pulled the numbers... why aren't you being treated for it? Your choice, or did the doctors simply never suggest it?
None of my business, just curious.
I'm guilty. My testosterone level is quite low and my estrogen level is high.
This results in all sorts of fun things like mood swings, depressive tendencies (which leads to weight trouble). I have an emotional 'period' but am lucky enough to have the wrong physiology to deal with the rest.
That said, I am very interested in females, and find no interest in my fellows. As potentially embarrassing and awkward as it is, I should say I don't have the 'opposite' reaction to my fellows, only a 'don't care' reaction.
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Having made the same mistake with my oldest, I wish I had mod points for this guy. He is correct. Nurture that which your child is interested in... don't force him into things he has no desire to do. Guess what, maybe you're a coding geek and your son is going to be a football hero. Maybe you're a nuclear physicist, and your son is going to be a used car salesman. There's nothing wrong with any of that, as long as you bring him up correctly... with ethics, morals, respect for others, and ambition.
[Writing a check to "Poorly Hung and Oblivious to It Foundation".]
In honor of you, champ.
Why is this post not modded +5 Insightful? It's spot in, IMO. Well, I have no mod points at present, but if I did, one of them would be yours.
Mod this guy up... he's absolutely correct and to mod him a "troll" is just ignorant.
Ah, yes. Right you are!
"Intruder alert! Chicken! Fight like a robot!"
That wasn't Robotron. Robotron had no speech. You're thinking of either Gorf or Wizard of Wor, I believe. They were both very early games that used the Vortax SC-01 phoneme synthesizer.
Would Star Wars be any better with modern CGI? No.
If only George Lucas agreed with you....
In the original Quest for Glory game (back when it was named Hero's Quest - not sure about after the name change, but probably) you could get into debug mode by entering "razzledazzlerootbeer"... then there were various numeric codes that would do different neat things.
Unfortunately, it also ruined the game for me because I hadn't finished it "properly" yet. I must go back and play through it correctly one day.
Just an FYI, not all skinheads are neo-Nazis or, for that matter, even racist. In fact, I've known more skinheads who would give you a beating for saying something racist than the type you're alluding to.
Painting with a broad brush is usually not a good idea, no matter what your intentions are.
If we outlaw peanut butter, then only outlaws will have peanut butter.
You also happen to die at the end.
GAH! Spoiler!!!
I've thought about this long and hard, but I cannot escape the conclusion that we're being terribly unfair to our kids by turning the stories WE loved as children (as did the generation before us) into fare for adults, just because we don't want to give our toys up to the younger generations.
but I cannot shake the feeling that we're robbing the next generation because we don't want to grow up, but we want grownup things.
You'll notice that Dr. Manhattan's exposure was the last in my list, and that was with reason... it was never presented "that way", although some parents would probably find it distasteful whether their kids saw it or not. That's mostly because of our societal mores.
In the meantime, you reminded me of a few more scenes that only the most irresponsible person could assume would be acceptable viewing for an 11 year old:
Cold-blooded murder of a pregnant woman
The entire child killer scene
Young Rorschach biting another boy's cheek off
Not to mention, how is a child supposed to understand the whole theme of Rorschach's mother being a prostitute?
How about Sally having gone back and willingly sleeping with the Comedian AFTER he tried to rape her (and knocked her around)? If a kid is old enough to understand the attempted-rape scene, but not really old enough to grasp just how fucked-up people can be, then that whole theme will confuse the hell out of him (or, worse, her) and maybe plant a terrible seed that will bloom into some warped perceptions.
Let's be honest with ourselves here... kids today, despite being coddled and sheltered from the outside world, are getting more and more fucked up. IMHO, that's because parents aren't paying enough, or the right kind of, attention to their kids. They assume, incorrectly, that there's nothing in their homes that can damage them, and that all the danger is outside, lurking the streets with a trench coat and a bag of lollipops. Meanwhile, they let their young children watch grown-up movies, TV shows, play M-rated video games, and surf the web unsupervised. Nobody wants to lord over their children the way we perceived that our parents smothered us... but, sorry, giving them free reign is a recipe for disaster. The new-age parenting techniques of constant praise and minimal discipline are failing. We've got 12 year old girls dressing like whores. If you let your pre-teen wear a pair of sweatpants with ANYTHING written across the seat, or a t-shirt that says "sexpot" or similar, you are a failure as a parent.
Of course, this is my opinion, and I'm sure I'll get modded down and probably a hundred responses of "my partner and I let our 6 year old use the computer unsupervised and she has never looked at porn and is a polite and independent little treasure!" Great, good luck with that in another 6 years.
Yeah... Star Wars, he knows that's fake... but say, like, Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull... well, it "took place" a long time ago, and to a 9 year old (not to mention a lot of adults), aliens are plausible, etc. In his mind, it could have happened.
Point is, even in something geared more for a younger audience like Spiderman... if a person gets slammed into a brick wall and falls 20 feet to the street below, hitting his head on a dumpster on his way down... he's NOT getting up and shaking it off like in the movies. But, a younger kid isn't going to realize it on his own.
If you think, after having seen it, that Watchmen would be in any way acceptable for an 11 year old, your nephew's parents should get a restraining order.
Let's see, aside from the handful of scenes of graphic violence (sawing off of arms, anyone?), how about the attempted rape, the sex scenes and, yes, the "blue schlong" that nobody can seem to wrap their minds around.
This isn't directed at you, but many people today seem to almost WANT to expose kids to as much adult material as possible. Whether it's to prove they're "enlightened", or because they saw boobies in Nightmare on Elm St when they were 11 and thought it was cool, or what, I don't know. "Pretty screwed up world we live in", indeed.
You can take an 11 year old to an R-rated movie, sure... but as a parent or guardian (IOW- an adult), you're supposed to exercise judgement based on your knowledge of the material, and the maturity of the child. Children DO imitate movies, whether you want to admit it or not. Face it, you yourself probably wish you could fight like Jason Bourne or sleep with pretty much any girl you want, like James Bond... but social structures and fear of looking like a moron (probably) prevent you from acting it out. Those social rules are much less effective on a child, which is why you see them acting out their favorite movie characters on the playground.
In short, and I am sure this is an unpopular opinion these days, children are less capable than adults are when it comes to separating fantasy from reality. Hell, my 9 year old still occasionally asks me "did this really happen?" when we're watching a movie that is at least halfway plausible.
Way to generalize.
As it so happens, every single police officer I know on a personal level is the polar opposite of that stereotype.
But then, I've never personally been molested by a Catholic priest, or had my money embezzled by a Republican, or lacked rhythm because I'm white or been in any other way victimized by one of the stereotypes that it's OK to believe in.
How exactly is the parent flamebait?
Wow, way to kill a joke...
No, the original Fun Club Newsletter only had two or three issues and was really just a folded 11x17" sheet, so basically four 8x11" pages. In three colors... black, blue, faded red.
:^)
Still have mine somewhere.
Yes, but did you hear, Britney's making a comeback!!!
(Before you mod me offtopic or troll, this is my way of saying, I see your point and agree with you. The public consciousness as a whole is pathetic.)
IANAD, but I have done a fair amount of research on this subject. Are you eating enough healthy fats? Don't be fooled by the logical-sounding but erroneous assertion that eating fat = being fat. Men NEED healthy fats (monounsaturated, polyunsaturated) to produce testosterone. Also, don't eat anything out of a box... at the supermarket, stick to the perimeter of the store. Meats, veggies (especially broccoli)... nuts... stuff like that. Also make sure you're getting enough zinc (take 50mg before bed).
Avoid putting any of your food in plastic containers, but DEFINITELY DO NOT heat up foods in plastic containers!!! Put them on paper, metal or glass first!
Also, try lifting weights as opposed to running. Steady-state cardio has been shown to decrease testosterone production, whereas anaerobic exercise increases it (it's more complicated than that, but I'll let you do the research if you like). I also think it's a hell of a lot more fun, and the results are more dramatic IMHO. 30 minutes 3x a week, rest on the weekends.
If I might suggest some reading, pick up Testosterone Advantage Plan by Lou Schuler... an excellent and illuminating book (again, IMHO) that examines the current trends of lower testosterone levels in current times, as well as providing an excellent dietary and exercise plan. It also explains how the nutritional guidelines we've been following for the last 30 years is just wrong.
Well, I'm probably going to get modded offtopic or something, but I wanted to reach out and offer some help (assuming, of course, you want it). Best of luck to you!!
Well, they wanted to try physical excersize and a proper diet to see if they could pull them in line without using steroids or hormones, but I just seem to lack the willpower to actually follow through. I can do it for a month or so, but then I just loose it.
I haven't yet been back to someone about it, though when I do I'm going to ask if we can try an artificial solution at the start, to give me a running start. From what I understand, most of my motivation problems are rooted in the imbalance to begin with. One of those 'vicious circle' things.
None of my business, just curious.
I'm guilty. My testosterone level is quite low and my estrogen level is high.
This results in all sorts of fun things like mood swings, depressive tendencies (which leads to weight trouble). I have an emotional 'period' but am lucky enough to have the wrong physiology to deal with the rest.
That said, I am very interested in females, and find no interest in my fellows. As potentially embarrassing and awkward as it is, I should say I don't have the 'opposite' reaction to my fellows, only a 'don't care' reaction.
Xenoestrogens. Look it up.
I've read a number of articles in the last few years regarding a widespread decline in men's testosterone levels in industrialized nations.
The difference in men over the last 30+ years isn't just a cultural shift, it's likely physiological as well.
One George W Bush is enough!!!!
Yes, yes... this joke never gets old! Say it again, again!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! ROFLMAO!!
George Bush...you called him a neanderthal!! LOLOLOL!!!1!!1!
Because you don't like him! LOL!!!
I see what you did there. [/sarcasm]
Better than mammoth ball hairs.