I spent a few months in Thailand last year and the people of Thailand love the king. Every house and business had pictures of the king and his family. Even in the US is you go into a Thai restaurant you will see pictures of the king.
Now the military doesn't really like him too much because there where some protests a few years back and some students where killed by the military. The king didn't like this so he summoned the generals to his palace. The king has a big estate and he was waiting for the general on the patio. The problem is no one can stand in the presence of the king so the general had to crawl a quarter of a mile to get from the gate to the kings location. The was broadcast live on national television. He then lectured the general on human rights for several hours.
Thaksin the prime minister was accused by the ruling class of the urban elite and military of stealing funds from the government. The problem is Thaksin was already a billionaire before entering office he was previously a business exec. He was trying to implement land reforms and other plans for helping the rural people. Most property in rural thailand is worked the families who've owned the land for generations but the deeds are in the hands of Chinese money lenders because the owners needed money. The money lenders charge outrageous interest on the debt so the people end up working land they don't own anymore for the rest of their lives.
As I said the Thai people on the whole love the king but they are worried about the future of the monarchy because the kings son is an idiot. Cultural and socially Thailand is a completely different world than what we are used to in the west. It would be a mistake to judge activities in Thailand through a western "lens" because you won't get an accurate picture of reality in Thailand.
Did she physically prevent him from leaving? Did he even try to leave? If not he should be buried up to his neck and be pelted with muffin fans from 20 paces.
You notice how they are always defending dictatorships and repressive regimes. The never defend western democracies.
Also, you would also figure that with the amount of vitriol here about the oppressive Bush regime he'd be the poster boy for these people and they'd be defending him at every turn. I guess their own perceptions clash with their populist moral relativism.
I guess they didn't get enough attention as children or have never traveled outside their own self image reinforcing social circle. Get out and see the world and actually see the pollution in the "developing" nations...and when you get back to your hotel and wash your face after a hot day there will be do need to wonder why the wash cloth that was once white is now gray. Also, if you let that glass of water sit for too long you will notice a nice rainbow film on top....it's better to drink it right away so you don't have to think about it.
But you're right it's true...you could say the same things about the US....100 years ago.
I would say that Google is more worried about Microsoft hitting their primary revenue stream with IE8 privacy mode/ ad blocker. Millions of browsers no longer open to google ads/analytics has gotta hurt.
Yes, I do but I am not as emotionally invested in it as you seem to be. I would have respected you more if you question war being an investment. Why the Iraq war specifically?
I never said we shouldn't do it. Today must be mindless cynic day. I find it very cynical of you to interpret what I said as cynicism. I was merely pointing out the challenges involved in such attempting such an endeavor in the US. In response to the original posters question. Your rah-rah let's get'er donnnne bullshit didn't answer the question or propose solutions to the problem. I refer you to my more complete response to mindless cynics on this topic.
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=950063&cid=24834101
No they are the back up if the lawsuit fails. It's an asymmetric threat to progress. You make the mistake of thinking those groups are separate from the environmental movement as a whole but they are not. PETA has provided funding and support to ALF and ELF. Explains spokeswoman Lisa Lange, one of PeTA's messages is that "you can't be an environmentalist and eat meat, and the ELF was going to be doing some publicity on that very thing. We saw it as an opportunity to get our message out."
"None of our money goes toward illegal activities," she insists. "This specific project we funded was a quality project."
PETA is also associated with the Sierra Club, EarthFirst!, and Greenpeace....groups who would file lawsuits.
I am not a cynic I am optimist. I know that in spite of how fucked up society is in general the world will be a better place tomorrow than it is today. I believe people in general are good and want the best for each other. Their motivations may be skewed by this group or that group but they want to make things better...and there is nothing wrong with that.
You can say I am a simple minded cynic but I always say exactly what I think and I put thought into what I have to write. Sometimes it's sarcastic, sometimes it's funny, and sometimes it's utterly stupid.
But at least I have the balls not to post anything I want to say as an anonymous coward....the refuge of simple minded cynics and people who fear what other people (or the/. rating system) might think of them.
You seem to suffer from the main problem of members of most of the groups I mentioned and it's something I like to call self imposed social pressures. People in groups like those I mentioned, slashdot, and others feel the need to constantly reinforce their place in the group so they move to consistently more extreme positions. We are seeing it in politics, religion, and science and it's not doing any of us a damn bit of good.
I disagree....war is an investment. The technology developed though war throughout human history has benefited all of us. From improved communications, water filtration, and solar power in the third world to the improved medical, manufacturing, production, and design processes of the first world.
For good or bad war has always been the great motivator of the human race. Wars costs billions of dollars but so do disease epidemics, natural disasters, and other challenges that fast large groups of people. We learn from all of them to improve our living conditions.
People make the mistake of thinking of the environmental crowd as just the hot earthers but there are many subgroups with different motives and methods. They run the gamut from Sierra Club and other conservation groups, to the odd preservation groups who want to create some natural snow globe with nothing ever changes, to groups like Greenpeace, ELF, and ALF. Any one of these groups can file a lawsuit.
Also, it's not just building the tracks, it's also building the power substations if its an electric train (although a super fast steam engine might be cool), the train stations, and all the other supporting infrastructure. A lawsuit for environmental reasons can be brought against any piece of the infrastructure.
The project would grind to a standstill under the weight of lawsuits be environmentalists, the not in my back yard crowd, and gad flys. If it progressed it would grind to a standstill under the weight of poor project management. If it progressed it would grind to a standstill under the weight of poor engineering decisions. If it progressed it would be plagued with cost over runs. If it was finished it would cost $2,430 dollars a ticket one way and no one would use it.
You are correct and explained exactly how riots like this get started.
First the protestors ignored a lawful order from the police and then they trespassed on private property. If you don't listen to the police they only have one option left which is to use force. No one should be surprised when repeated warning by police are ignored someone gets hurt. Obviously the protestors weren't interested in anything the police had to say.
The popular tactic by protestors since the 60's has been to ignore the police and get your ass kicked. You get more publicity that way and can rail against the fascists on TV. The problem is everyone else just thinks they are a bunch of dicks and causing trouble.
These people marginalize themselves and wonder why the world doesn't listen to them. If they could present a coherent argument they might get more support.
Actually this isn't a bad idea. I did IT work in both Iraq and Afghanistan for almost 2 years. It pays very well and there is no place to really spend the money. There are billions of dollars pouring into these countries and they are spending it on new infrastructure. In 2 years I made as much money as I would have made in the US in 6. The people are nice and if you keep you head down (literally) and be smart it can be a great experience. The pay rates aren't as high as they used to be now that things are stabilizing but its a good deal if you can get it. There are still a lot of IT opportunities in Afghanistan modernizing the government systems in Kabul.
Learn about the culture and be nice to the people and they will be nice to you...it might even save your life. But this applies pretty much anywhere outside "first world" countries.
I am taking the next year or two off to travel around the world and do some photography.
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Great something else I need to care about. Why is everyone telling me that I need to care about something. Global warming, global cooling, global climate change, Obama, McCain, Clinton, Pelosi, abortion, gay marriage, paying my taxes, paying my rent, RIAA, the most recent pop tart to get drunk and flashing her cooch, Colbert, Sterwart, child pornography, identity theft, and on and on. It's not that people don't care or are comfortable with risk it's just there are too many things to care about.
Frankly if someone wants my identity they can have it but you gotta take the whole thing because I don't fucking care anymore.
I was there a few years ago and it was worth the trip just to see all the gizmos and read the guestbook. A word of advice...never take a girl there for a date.
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Now the military doesn't really like him too much because there where some protests a few years back and some students where killed by the military. The king didn't like this so he summoned the generals to his palace. The king has a big estate and he was waiting for the general on the patio. The problem is no one can stand in the presence of the king so the general had to crawl a quarter of a mile to get from the gate to the kings location. The was broadcast live on national television. He then lectured the general on human rights for several hours.
Thaksin the prime minister was accused by the ruling class of the urban elite and military of stealing funds from the government. The problem is Thaksin was already a billionaire before entering office he was previously a business exec. He was trying to implement land reforms and other plans for helping the rural people. Most property in rural thailand is worked the families who've owned the land for generations but the deeds are in the hands of Chinese money lenders because the owners needed money. The money lenders charge outrageous interest on the debt so the people end up working land they don't own anymore for the rest of their lives.
As I said the Thai people on the whole love the king but they are worried about the future of the monarchy because the kings son is an idiot. Cultural and socially Thailand is a completely different world than what we are used to in the west. It would be a mistake to judge activities in Thailand through a western "lens" because you won't get an accurate picture of reality in Thailand.
Did she physically prevent him from leaving? Did he even try to leave? If not he should be buried up to his neck and be pelted with muffin fans from 20 paces.
Also, you would also figure that with the amount of vitriol here about the oppressive Bush regime he'd be the poster boy for these people and they'd be defending him at every turn. I guess their own perceptions clash with their populist moral relativism.
I guess they didn't get enough attention as children or have never traveled outside their own self image reinforcing social circle. Get out and see the world and actually see the pollution in the "developing" nations...and when you get back to your hotel and wash your face after a hot day there will be do need to wonder why the wash cloth that was once white is now gray. Also, if you let that glass of water sit for too long you will notice a nice rainbow film on top....it's better to drink it right away so you don't have to think about it.
But you're right it's true...you could say the same things about the US....100 years ago.
...rent it to them.
I would say that Google is more worried about Microsoft hitting their primary revenue stream with IE8 privacy mode/ ad blocker. Millions of browsers no longer open to google ads/analytics has gotta hurt.
Yes, I do but I am not as emotionally invested in it as you seem to be. I would have respected you more if you question war being an investment. Why the Iraq war specifically?
When was the last time you saw a brand new 8 lane highway built in the US?
I never said we shouldn't do it. Today must be mindless cynic day. I find it very cynical of you to interpret what I said as cynicism. I was merely pointing out the challenges involved in such attempting such an endeavor in the US. In response to the original posters question. Your rah-rah let's get'er donnnne bullshit didn't answer the question or propose solutions to the problem. I refer you to my more complete response to mindless cynics on this topic. http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=950063&cid=24834101
No they are the back up if the lawsuit fails. It's an asymmetric threat to progress. You make the mistake of thinking those groups are separate from the environmental movement as a whole but they are not. PETA has provided funding and support to ALF and ELF.
Explains spokeswoman Lisa Lange, one of PeTA's messages is that "you can't be an environmentalist and eat meat, and the ELF was going to be doing some publicity on that very thing. We saw it as an opportunity to get our message out."
"None of our money goes toward illegal activities," she insists. "This specific project we funded was a quality project."
PETA is also associated with the Sierra Club, EarthFirst!, and Greenpeace....groups who would file lawsuits.
I am not a cynic I am optimist. I know that in spite of how fucked up society is in general the world will be a better place tomorrow than it is today. I believe people in general are good and want the best for each other. Their motivations may be skewed by this group or that group but they want to make things better...and there is nothing wrong with that.
You can say I am a simple minded cynic but I always say exactly what I think and I put thought into what I have to write. Sometimes it's sarcastic, sometimes it's funny, and sometimes it's utterly stupid.
But at least I have the balls not to post anything I want to say as an anonymous coward....the refuge of simple minded cynics and people who fear what other people (or the /. rating system) might think of them.
You seem to suffer from the main problem of members of most of the groups I mentioned and it's something I like to call self imposed social pressures. People in groups like those I mentioned, slashdot, and others feel the need to constantly reinforce their place in the group so they move to consistently more extreme positions. We are seeing it in politics, religion, and science and it's not doing any of us a damn bit of good.
I disagree....war is an investment. The technology developed though war throughout human history has benefited all of us. From improved communications, water filtration, and solar power in the third world to the improved medical, manufacturing, production, and design processes of the first world.
For good or bad war has always been the great motivator of the human race. Wars costs billions of dollars but so do disease epidemics, natural disasters, and other challenges that fast large groups of people. We learn from all of them to improve our living conditions.
People make the mistake of thinking of the environmental crowd as just the hot earthers but there are many subgroups with different motives and methods. They run the gamut from Sierra Club and other conservation groups, to the odd preservation groups who want to create some natural snow globe with nothing ever changes, to groups like Greenpeace, ELF, and ALF. Any one of these groups can file a lawsuit.
Also, it's not just building the tracks, it's also building the power substations if its an electric train (although a super fast steam engine might be cool), the train stations, and all the other supporting infrastructure. A lawsuit for environmental reasons can be brought against any piece of the infrastructure.
The project would grind to a standstill under the weight of lawsuits be environmentalists, the not in my back yard crowd, and gad flys. If it progressed it would grind to a standstill under the weight of poor project management. If it progressed it would grind to a standstill under the weight of poor engineering decisions. If it progressed it would be plagued with cost over runs. If it was finished it would cost $2,430 dollars a ticket one way and no one would use it.
What massacres in the 60's?
Minneapolis.
You are correct and explained exactly how riots like this get started.
First the protestors ignored a lawful order from the police and then they trespassed on private property. If you don't listen to the police they only have one option left which is to use force. No one should be surprised when repeated warning by police are ignored someone gets hurt. Obviously the protestors weren't interested in anything the police had to say.
The popular tactic by protestors since the 60's has been to ignore the police and get your ass kicked. You get more publicity that way and can rail against the fascists on TV. The problem is everyone else just thinks they are a bunch of dicks and causing trouble.
These people marginalize themselves and wonder why the world doesn't listen to them. If they could present a coherent argument they might get more support.
Actually this isn't a bad idea. I did IT work in both Iraq and Afghanistan for almost 2 years. It pays very well and there is no place to really spend the money. There are billions of dollars pouring into these countries and they are spending it on new infrastructure. In 2 years I made as much money as I would have made in the US in 6. The people are nice and if you keep you head down (literally) and be smart it can be a great experience. The pay rates aren't as high as they used to be now that things are stabilizing but its a good deal if you can get it. There are still a lot of IT opportunities in Afghanistan modernizing the government systems in Kabul.
Learn about the culture and be nice to the people and they will be nice to you...it might even save your life. But this applies pretty much anywhere outside "first world" countries.
I am taking the next year or two off to travel around the world and do some photography.
trolling: to fish by trailing a lure or baited hook from a moving boat
Great something else I need to care about. Why is everyone telling me that I need to care about something. Global warming, global cooling, global climate change, Obama, McCain, Clinton, Pelosi, abortion, gay marriage, paying my taxes, paying my rent, RIAA, the most recent pop tart to get drunk and flashing her cooch, Colbert, Sterwart, child pornography, identity theft, and on and on. It's not that people don't care or are comfortable with risk it's just there are too many things to care about.
Frankly if someone wants my identity they can have it but you gotta take the whole thing because I don't fucking care anymore.
I situations like this...it's always the guy with the gun, sword, machete, or box cutter. No matter what side they are on.
I'm interested in knowing what's the worst that could happen to the people behind Mediasentry...
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I was there a few years ago and it was worth the trip just to see all the gizmos and read the guestbook. A word of advice...never take a girl there for a date.
...or a nut that must fund every social program under the sun.
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