Of course not. I don't go for personal insults on discussion boards and I'm sorry if that's how it came across. I thought what you wrote a regurgitation of the party line, which I'm tired of reading, and tired of seeing moderated as "insightful". Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I still think your analogy is flawed. In the world at large, two computer operating systems duking it out doesn't make a whole heap of difference. Two religions fighting does. Your operating system having its code audited doesn't matter. Your wife dying does. Argument by analogy is dangerous, especially when you liken to such extreme events.
I also can't agree that Bill Gates has harmed the world. In fact, he seems rather keen on changing it for the better. His software sucks, yeah, and I'm not happy when my taxes go on buying it, but the guy's hardly Pol Pot.
gnu/linux just makes me wince. Like mebibytes. It's so damn pedantic, and I can't help but think a lot of people use it as a way of saying "I know one thing more than you. I know only idiots call it 'Linux'". I'm also hugely annoyed by licensing zealots, and it's an expression I associate with them.
GNU/Linux does at least suggest that Linus didn't invent and program the whole of Unix and Linux all by himself, which a lot of people round here seem to think he did!
That is the pissiest, most self-righteous, pathetic, linux-weiner-fanboy post I have read in ages.
It's people with attitudes like this that make me embarassed to say that I use Linux.
If you read the above post and found yourself agreeing that SCO's lawsuit is just as bad as butchering innocents, or that Bill Gates is truly evil, perhaps you should take a broader interest in the world. If you modded it up, shame on you.
On the other hand, if the OP was a troll (as the use of the preposterous phrase "gnu/linux" suggests), nice work - you got me!
The thing tp know about Dick is that his books aren't really Sci-Fi. They're about being fucked up on drugs. Or sometimes about being fucked up without drugs.
He was a wonderful writer and an incredible thinker.
There are other OSes you know. Please don't disregard them, or the work of the people who make KDE a cross-platform desktop.
For all the complaining linux users do about Microsoft's monopoly and open standards, a lot of them are all too quick to disregard or put down the other Unix style OSes, and to write code that won't compile without sys/linux.h.
Fortunately the KDE people don't think that way.
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This is the problem with Star Wars. It's a thinly plotted kids' film. You try stacking five extra episodes on top and the whole thing collapses in a mass of contradiciton, inconsistency and ever more ridiculous explanations.
I loved Star Wars (I refuse to call it episode IV) up until my teens. I went to see the trilogy when it was re-released, and didn't really enjoy it much at all. It's easy to blame the changes that had been made, but the simple fact was that I'd outgrown them. Some parts were still fun, but it just wasn't enough.
For the record, I think Episode I was fairly poor, but Episode II has to be one of the worst films I have ever seen. And I've seen some shit.
And just to get slightly on topic, three of the worst films I've suffered through recently (OTOH) are "Troy", "Attack of the Clones", and "The Hole". I don't mind lightweight fluff, or stupid "so bad it's good" type things, but I hate self-important twaddle that wastes talent. That talent could be good actors, good SFX people, good set designers, whatever. It's a crime.
I don't agree. I think Sun are heading towards their own backplanes, I/O etc but with Opterons instead of SPARCs. Seems like the sensible thing to do. They know how to build a good computer, but they have to see the SPARC consortium can't hope to compete with intel and AMD.
Solaris is so damn sweet. Really. If you're really into Linux you owe it to yourself to try Solaris 10. And give it a really good try, not just "Install is ghey. CDE is teh suX, back to gentoo".
I *really* want a lovely Mac laptop, but I pretty much need Solaris on my portable. mmmmm, Sol 10/OS X dual boot.... I'd be surprised if this ever surfaced, but I so hope it does.
I despair that people write slashdot posts with the aim of gaining moderation points, and I'm sorry I put my point across so poorly that it gave that impression.
> You bitched about slashdot on slashdot
No, I like Slashdot. I bitched about a certain group of people who post here, hoping maybe someone might think "yes, I do that, maybe I'll make more of an effort in future".
> wow that's so original!
wow, that's so cuttingly sarcastic! And original.
>I was about to mod this flamebait, but decided not to waste the point
Well, you could have moderated or replied, not both. I don't think the world would have been a poorer place if you had chosen the former.
The clueless, pointless SCO baiting in this thread is depressing. You all hate them, but I don't think many of you know why. You gobble up propaganda and follow the flock like children. I'm so sick of uninformed narrow mindedness and sad fanboys that I rarely look at the discussions following Linux stories any more. How many ways are there to say "linux r0x0rs SCO is teh SUX!!!!". Don't you think we've got the message by now?
Yes, this is flamebait, but there are plenty of people round here who deserve flaming. Say something interesting or say nothing at all. We know the party line. We don't need you to trot it out again and underline it with a Monty Python quote.
> IIRC the user survey showed Linux users expected it to be free
And this is one more reason why linux will never replace windows. No one would dare risk porting expensive commercial software to linux.
Free software is not just an expectation, it's a demand. Seems a lot of folk feel its an insult to the purity of linux - or even a personal insult - when someone actually asks them to pay money for software. (Then they usually lash out and claim their free version is better anyway.) Oh, they'll get all high and mighty about GPL vs LGPL vs MPL vs BSD, but really all most of them want is something for nothing.
Piracy killed commercial software on the Amiga, and I think the same would happen on Linux if things like Office, Photoshop and a lot of games were ever ported to it. (Enterprise software is different of course.) A lot of users would see it as their *duty* to pirate software and teach the evil corporations a lesson. I think this mentality is already evident in the mp3 community, where people hoard and share tens of gigs of files they will never ever listen to.
Linux has to shed the group mentality of a 15 year old. This is happening I think, but I doubt it will ever go away completely.
You can't go round saying things like that! Repeat after me: "Slowaris is teh sux (5 Funny)". "Who cares about Slowaris when linux does everything and its free as in beer and you get the source (5 informative)".
Now say 10 Hail Linuses, and come back when you're brainwashed.
There's no mention in the article that these boxes would use GPS, so how do the police know which house to go to? Presumably someone reported the license plate? Well, they'd have got their man anyway.
Also, the caved in door would show that the car had been in an accident, the black box would just have recorded some speed and steering telemetry. I don't see how it could record every impact on every part of the car, and *prove* there was a collision. If they've caught you, and they have witnesses, they've got you anyway. And you deserve it indeed. The speeding charge is probably nothing compared with the penalty for leaving the scene of the accident.
Again, I don't see how this helps. People driving away from accidents are reprehensible I agree, but how does the black box help catch a hit-and-run driver who hits someone crossing the road whilst travelling under the speed limit? Dents (or blood and matted hair) on the bodywork are far more incriminating, and you still need an eye-witness to report the car, unless you go with a full-on GPS tracking system.
I guess the black box could show how fast the car was going, helping enforce stiffer penalties for speeding drivers, but there's every chance it was moving at a legal speed, so, again, you've gained nothing.
THe story in the article referred to someone hitting the gas instead of the brake. The black box would simply have recorded what happened, not stopped it happening. No one hits the gas like that on purpose, so how is safety improved? All you have is more concrete evidence of a horrific mistake.
I agree with your sentiment, but (playing devil's advocate) I'm still not sure black boxes would really make us safer. They just help reinforce our blame culture.
Absolutely. A couple of years ago Sun made a big song and dance about lxrun, which I guess is somewhere at the base of this thing, and in all my travels as a Solaris consultant I never happened across *anyone* who had used it.
I think maybe linux has a more up-to-date Acrobat reader than Solaris, so I might use it for that. Nothing else springs to mind though.
BTW,there's already a port of the flash plugin for Sol x86, and it works just fine.
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> That is totally unfair. I am not pathetic.
Of course not. I don't go for personal insults on discussion boards and I'm sorry if that's how it came across. I thought what you wrote a regurgitation of the party line, which I'm tired of reading, and tired of seeing moderated as "insightful". Thanks for taking the time to reply.
I still think your analogy is flawed. In the world at large, two computer operating systems duking it out doesn't make a whole heap of difference. Two religions fighting does. Your operating system having its code audited doesn't matter. Your wife dying does. Argument by analogy is dangerous, especially when you liken to such extreme events.
I also can't agree that Bill Gates has harmed the world. In fact, he seems rather keen on changing it for the better. His software sucks, yeah, and I'm not happy when my taxes go on buying it, but the guy's hardly Pol Pot.
gnu/linux just makes me wince. Like mebibytes. It's so damn pedantic, and I can't help but think a lot of people use it as a way of saying "I know one thing more than you. I know only idiots call it 'Linux'". I'm also hugely annoyed by licensing zealots, and it's an expression I associate with them.
GNU/Linux does at least suggest that Linus didn't invent and program the whole of Unix and Linux all by himself, which a lot of people round here seem to think he did!
I'll try to be less grumpy in future.
That is the pissiest, most self-righteous, pathetic, linux-weiner-fanboy post I have read in ages.
It's people with attitudes like this that make me embarassed to say that I use Linux.
If you read the above post and found yourself agreeing that SCO's lawsuit is just as bad as butchering innocents, or that Bill Gates is truly evil, perhaps you should take a broader interest in the world. If you modded it up, shame on you.
On the other hand, if the OP was a troll (as the use of the preposterous phrase "gnu/linux" suggests), nice work - you got me!
> The first cut of Star Wars,' Burns' narrator says, 'was an unmitigated disaster.'"
Surely he means "the first episode"?
> Familiarity with Linux programming.
> Has developed and documented technical designs.
So they want someone who codes for linux and writes documentation? Good luck!
"teh src iz all teh doco j00 need luser!!!!!!"
The thing tp know about Dick is that his books aren't really Sci-Fi. They're about being fucked up on drugs. Or sometimes about being fucked up without drugs.
He was a wonderful writer and an incredible thinker.
I 've been doing this with my own site for ages
I knew I shouldn't have left my case mod there.
I can see my case mod from here!
Yeah, right. You'll never get past arguing about what CFLAGS to use.
There are other OSes you know. Please don't disregard them, or the work of the people who make KDE a cross-platform desktop.
For all the complaining linux users do about Microsoft's monopoly and open standards, a lot of them are all too quick to disregard or put down the other Unix style OSes, and to write code that won't compile without sys/linux.h.
Fortunately the KDE people don't think that way.
This is the problem with Star Wars. It's a thinly plotted kids' film. You try stacking five extra episodes on top and the whole thing collapses in a mass of contradiciton, inconsistency and ever more ridiculous explanations.
I loved Star Wars (I refuse to call it episode IV) up until my teens. I went to see the trilogy when it was re-released, and didn't really enjoy it much at all. It's easy to blame the changes that had been made, but the simple fact was that I'd outgrown them. Some parts were still fun, but it just wasn't enough.
For the record, I think Episode I was fairly poor, but Episode II has to be one of the worst films I have ever seen. And I've seen some shit.
How's the weather in cloud cuckoo land this time of year?
Amen. Fark and its petty, back-slapping clique of moderators make this place look like a model of great democracy.
Here is what happened to me there. (Shameless plug.)
And just to get slightly on topic, three of the worst films I've suffered through recently (OTOH) are "Troy", "Attack of the Clones", and "The Hole". I don't mind lightweight fluff, or stupid "so bad it's good" type things, but I hate self-important twaddle that wastes talent. That talent could be good actors, good SFX people, good set designers, whatever. It's a crime.
True. I've been trying to find reviews of a car steroe head unit, gave up after wading through pages of hundreds of those "price comparison" things.
I only buy it as a visual aid to masturbation.
I don't agree. I think Sun are heading towards their own backplanes, I/O etc but with Opterons instead of SPARCs. Seems like the sensible thing to do. They know how to build a good computer, but they have to see the SPARC consortium can't hope to compete with intel and AMD.
Solaris is so damn sweet. Really. If you're really into Linux you owe it to yourself to try Solaris 10. And give it a really good try, not just "Install is ghey. CDE is teh suX, back to gentoo".
I *really* want a lovely Mac laptop, but I pretty much need Solaris on my portable. mmmmm, Sol 10/OS X dual boot.... I'd be surprised if this ever surfaced, but I so hope it does.
I despair that people write slashdot posts with the aim of gaining moderation points, and I'm sorry I put my point across so poorly that it gave that impression.
> You bitched about slashdot on slashdot
No, I like Slashdot. I bitched about a certain group of people who post here, hoping maybe someone might think "yes, I do that, maybe I'll make more of an effort in future".
> wow that's so original!
wow, that's so cuttingly sarcastic! And original.
>I was about to mod this flamebait, but decided not to waste the point
Well, you could have moderated or replied, not both. I don't think the world would have been a poorer place if you had chosen the former.
The clueless, pointless SCO baiting in this thread is depressing. You all hate them, but I don't think many of you know why. You gobble up propaganda and follow the flock like children. I'm so sick of uninformed narrow mindedness and sad fanboys that I rarely look at the discussions following Linux stories any more. How many ways are there to say "linux r0x0rs SCO is teh SUX!!!!". Don't you think we've got the message by now?
Yes, this is flamebait, but there are plenty of people round here who deserve flaming. Say something interesting or say nothing at all. We know the party line. We don't need you to trot it out again and underline it with a Monty Python quote.
Closely followed by some pedant pointing out the spelling mistake.
> STFA
WTF?
I'd give you the mod points, but I doubt you could work out how to use them.
> IIRC the user survey showed Linux users expected it to be free
And this is one more reason why linux will never replace windows. No one would dare risk porting expensive commercial software to linux.
Free software is not just an expectation, it's a demand. Seems a lot of folk feel its an insult to the purity of linux - or even a personal insult - when someone actually asks them to pay money for software. (Then they usually lash out and claim their free version is better anyway.) Oh, they'll get all high and mighty about GPL vs LGPL vs MPL vs BSD, but really all most of them want is something for nothing.
Piracy killed commercial software on the Amiga, and I think the same would happen on Linux if things like Office, Photoshop and a lot of games were ever ported to it. (Enterprise software is different of course.) A lot of users would see it as their *duty* to pirate software and teach the evil corporations a lesson. I think this mentality is already evident in the mp3 community, where people hoard and share tens of gigs of files they will never ever listen to.
Linux has to shed the group mentality of a 15 year old. This is happening I think, but I doubt it will ever go away completely.
You can't go round saying things like that! Repeat after me: "Slowaris is teh sux (5 Funny)". "Who cares about Slowaris when linux does everything and its free as in beer and you get the source (5 informative)".
Now say 10 Hail Linuses, and come back when you're brainwashed.
There's no mention in the article that these boxes would use GPS, so how do the police know which house to go to? Presumably someone reported the license plate? Well, they'd have got their man anyway.
Also, the caved in door would show that the car had been in an accident, the black box would just have recorded some speed and steering telemetry. I don't see how it could record every impact on every part of the car, and *prove* there was a collision. If they've caught you, and they have witnesses, they've got you anyway. And you deserve it indeed. The speeding charge is probably nothing compared with the penalty for leaving the scene of the accident.
Again, I don't see how this helps. People driving away from accidents are reprehensible I agree, but how does the black box help catch a hit-and-run driver who hits someone crossing the road whilst travelling under the speed limit? Dents (or blood and matted hair) on the bodywork are far more incriminating, and you still need an eye-witness to report the car, unless you go with a full-on GPS tracking system.
I guess the black box could show how fast the car was going, helping enforce stiffer penalties for speeding drivers, but there's every chance it was moving at a legal speed, so, again, you've gained nothing.
THe story in the article referred to someone hitting the gas instead of the brake. The black box would simply have recorded what happened, not stopped it happening. No one hits the gas like that on purpose, so how is safety improved? All you have is more concrete evidence of a horrific mistake.
I agree with your sentiment, but (playing devil's advocate) I'm still not sure black boxes would really make us safer. They just help reinforce our blame culture.
Absolutely. A couple of years ago Sun made a big song and dance about lxrun, which I guess is somewhere at the base of this thing, and in all my travels as a Solaris consultant I never happened across *anyone* who had used it.
I think maybe linux has a more up-to-date Acrobat reader than Solaris, so I might use it for that. Nothing else springs to mind though.
BTW,there's already a port of the flash plugin for Sol x86, and it works just fine.