More notice for dropping support? Isn't there stated policy that they support only the current release and the previous release? Look at the fancy ASCII map of their release schedule. It clearly shows that only two releases are maintained at one time. I've been using OpenBSD since 2.9, and I was always aware of their support scheme. Where have you been?
Do you assume that they have the resources to support older releases just because it is an inconvenience for your to upgrade? They are offering you a really great OS for free. They work really hard to make sure that it is the best it can be. And what I like most about the OpenBSD team is that they really take a stand for freedom issues in software (read Theo's stance on the Sun ECC code being included in OpenSSL in this message, or check out the entire thread).
Give these guys a break. You had 6 months to test 3.1 and upgrade your boxes from 3.0. If you don't like their policy, use something else. As someone said over a deadly.org, if you want support for older releases, pay someone to provide patches for your system. Whatever you decide to do, stop complaining about something they give away for free.
Herschel didn't think he was seeing an asteroid. A comet maybe, but not an asteroid. Uranus was discovered on March 13, 1781, 20 years before the first asteroid (Ceres) was first spotted by Giuseppe Piazzi (January 1, 1801). The term asteroid was coined by Herschel, but not until after the second asteroid (Pallas) was discovered by Heinrich Olbers on March 28, 1802.
Uranus is in some way tied to asteroids though. The discovery of Uranus "proved" the Titius-Bode law, a mathematical formula that gave the distance of the planets from the sun. Based on the location of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter, Bode's law predicted the location of Uranus. When Uranus was discovered in nearly the exact location it was supposed to be, astronomers started taking the law seriously. The interesting thing about Bode's law is that it also predicted a planet in the gap between Mars and Jupiter. Kepler also suspected that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter. Astronomers planned a cooperative search for the missing planet in the gap. Before they could get started, Piazzi found Ceres. Pallas, Juno (1804), and Vesta (1807) were discovered shortly thereafter. After Pallas, they realized they weren't looking at planets, but instead minor planets.
This is actually kind of old. I just did a project for my school at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. One of the companies we spoke to had been using these as part of their safety program for a while. It sounded really funny. My partners and I thought something was lost in the translation. It's pretty funny to see it turn up again here.
Check out Moller International. They made some UFO-like ground effect vehicles in the past and now are making a vertical take-off and landing vehicle that they hope will replace the car.
It is nice to see that there are still some people who trust the government to do the right thing for the country. It's a shame that I was actually shocked to read this post on Slashdot. I'm glad it got modded up.
"If you don't intergrate us into Windows, we'll stop using it and take a few million users with us."
Hardly. My family started with AOL in 95. A year or so later we got a regular ISP but my parents still kept AOL and connected through the TCP/IP connection. Now we have a cable modem and my parents still use AOL for everything. Despite their love of AOL, they wouldn't switch to another operating system just so they could use AOL. I don't know anyone that would. AOL would be stupid to try to switch a few million users to Linux because Microsoft still holds more power over consumers than AOL does. Almost everyone has heard of Windows, most people haven't heard of Linux and convincing a bunch of people who like "You've got mail!" to switch to an entirely different operating system wouldn't be easy.
Sir Arthur C. Clarke held a webcast interview with my school a little while back titled "Imagine in the Future: Visions of the World to Come." Clarke and some others talked about their expectations for the next 100 years. You can watch the video (Windows Media only) at here. It was a pretty interesting discussion.
I hope I can get this to work on OpenBSD. I was able to get one of the beta's to compile after a little work, but then it wouldn't actually do anything. The httpd daemon would start up, but it didn't actually listen for connections. Weird stuff.
Good point, didn't notice that. But still, they are saying that they can't show their compliant main page to "non-compliant" browsers, but what do they do instead? Show a non-compliant page to a "non-compliant" browser. They are dumb either way.
"All of our development work for the new MSN.com is...W3C standard," said Bob Visse, the director of MSN marketing, referring to the World Wide Web Consortium, which is developing industry standards for Web technologies. "For browsers that we know don't support those standards or that we can't insure will get a great experience for the customer, we do serve up a page that suggests that they upgrade to an IE browser that does support the" standards.
I'd much rather have them annoy you with the searches, than for you to one day tweak out and try to blow up the rest of us. Sure, it might not ever happen, but I'm willing to put you through these minor inconveniences for my safety.
I'm sorry, but those numbers make me puke when I think any of those people seriously call themselves admins...
You miss the point that most of these people don't consider themselves admins due to the simple fact that they don't know IIS is running. The majority of people who hit me with Code Red and Nimda attacks had the default "Under Construction" page. Yes, some people are ridiculously stupid, but some others just trusted that Microsoft would set their computer up for the standard user, not for the standard admin.
I've been hit 689 times today (9:29:35 AM - 12:07:46 PM). On the bright side, I was only hit with Code Red attempts 3 times today. Why do I get the feeling that cables modem providers are going to start shutting off port 80 again?
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(b) FTP/HTTP Service Setup. Customer should be aware that when using the Service to access the Internet or any other online network or service, there are certain applications, such as FTP (File Transfer Protocol) server or HTTP (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol) server, which may be used to allow other Service users and Internet users to gain access to Customer's computer. If Customer chooses to run such applications, Customer should take the appropriate security measures. Neither AT&T nor @Home Network shall have any liability whatsoever for any claims, losses, actions, damages, suits or proceedings resulting from, arising out of or otherwise relating to the use of such applications by Customer, including without limitation, damages resulting from others accessing Customer's computer.
Too bad it came out after the fact. I think it's easier for the media to say "The end of the world is coming!" because people tend not to give backlash if bad things don't end up happening. If this guy wrote the article beforehand and the internet did die, he would have taken a lot of heat about being wrong. It was easy for him write this article after the fact. Then again, the point of his article wasn't to inform us that nothing happened, it was to say why these things aren't really bad to begin with.
Point well taken about "All that is needed for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing." But in this case, as you suggest, who decides what is evil? I really don't think Microsoft is really that evil. Lots of people here are using Linux or UNIX, so they obviously haven't ruined your life too much. I see what you are saying about good not always automatically winning over evil, but I don't think the lines between good and evil are clearly defined.
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The correct spelling is Theo de Raadt as indicated at Theo's dot com. It is also all over the OpenBSD webpage.
More notice for dropping support? Isn't there stated policy that they support only the current release and the previous release? Look at the fancy ASCII map of their release schedule. It clearly shows that only two releases are maintained at one time. I've been using OpenBSD since 2.9, and I was always aware of their support scheme. Where have you been?
Do you assume that they have the resources to support older releases just because it is an inconvenience for your to upgrade? They are offering you a really great OS for free. They work really hard to make sure that it is the best it can be. And what I like most about the OpenBSD team is that they really take a stand for freedom issues in software (read Theo's stance on the Sun ECC code being included in OpenSSL in this message, or check out the entire thread).
Give these guys a break. You had 6 months to test 3.1 and upgrade your boxes from 3.0. If you don't like their policy, use something else. As someone said over a deadly.org, if you want support for older releases, pay someone to provide patches for your system. Whatever you decide to do, stop complaining about something they give away for free.
You also share the same birthday as NASA, which was created on October 1, 1958.
Herschel didn't think he was seeing an asteroid. A comet maybe, but not an asteroid. Uranus was discovered on March 13, 1781, 20 years before the first asteroid (Ceres) was first spotted by Giuseppe Piazzi (January 1, 1801). The term asteroid was coined by Herschel, but not until after the second asteroid (Pallas) was discovered by Heinrich Olbers on March 28, 1802.
Uranus is in some way tied to asteroids though. The discovery of Uranus "proved" the Titius-Bode law, a mathematical formula that gave the distance of the planets from the sun. Based on the location of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter, Bode's law predicted the location of Uranus. When Uranus was discovered in nearly the exact location it was supposed to be, astronomers started taking the law seriously. The interesting thing about Bode's law is that it also predicted a planet in the gap between Mars and Jupiter. Kepler also suspected that there was a planet between Mars and Jupiter. Astronomers planned a cooperative search for the missing planet in the gap. Before they could get started, Piazzi found Ceres. Pallas, Juno (1804), and Vesta (1807) were discovered shortly thereafter. After Pallas, they realized they weren't looking at planets, but instead minor planets.
So that's the story of asteroids and Uranus.
"Hey, it's kinda cool holding a webserver in your hand and being able to walk around with it."
Right, cool until it melts in your hand and you end up looking like Johnny Tremain.
This is actually kind of old. I just did a project for my school at Chulalongkorn University in Bangkok. One of the companies we spoke to had been using these as part of their safety program for a while. It sounded really funny. My partners and I thought something was lost in the translation. It's pretty funny to see it turn up again here.
Check out Moller International. They made some UFO-like ground effect vehicles in the past and now are making a vertical take-off and landing vehicle that they hope will replace the car.
It is nice to see that there are still some people who trust the government to do the right thing for the country. It's a shame that I was actually shocked to read this post on Slashdot. I'm glad it got modded up.
"If you don't intergrate us into Windows, we'll stop using it and take a few million users with us."
Hardly. My family started with AOL in 95. A year or so later we got a regular ISP but my parents still kept AOL and connected through the TCP/IP connection. Now we have a cable modem and my parents still use AOL for everything. Despite their love of AOL, they wouldn't switch to another operating system just so they could use AOL. I don't know anyone that would. AOL would be stupid to try to switch a few million users to Linux because Microsoft still holds more power over consumers than AOL does. Almost everyone has heard of Windows, most people haven't heard of Linux and convincing a bunch of people who like "You've got mail!" to switch to an entirely different operating system wouldn't be easy.
Sir Arthur C. Clarke held a webcast interview with my school a little while back titled "Imagine in the Future: Visions of the World to Come." Clarke and some others talked about their expectations for the next 100 years. You can watch the video (Windows Media only) at here. It was a pretty interesting discussion.
I hope I can get this to work on OpenBSD. I was able to get one of the beta's to compile after a little work, but then it wouldn't actually do anything. The httpd daemon would start up, but it didn't actually listen for connections. Weird stuff.
Good point, didn't notice that. But still, they are saying that they can't show their compliant main page to "non-compliant" browsers, but what do they do instead? Show a non-compliant page to a "non-compliant" browser. They are dumb either way.
"All of our development work for the new MSN.com is...W3C standard," said Bob Visse, the director of MSN marketing, referring to the World Wide Web Consortium, which is developing industry standards for Web technologies. "For browsers that we know don't support those standards or that we can't insure will get a great experience for the customer, we do serve up a page that suggests that they upgrade to an IE browser that does support the" standards.
See for yourself.
I'd much rather have them annoy you with the searches, than for you to one day tweak out and try to blow up the rest of us. Sure, it might not ever happen, but I'm willing to put you through these minor inconveniences for my safety.
It's sarcasm, you idiot.
I'm sorry, but those numbers make me puke when I think any of those people seriously call themselves admins...
You miss the point that most of these people don't consider themselves admins due to the simple fact that they don't know IIS is running. The majority of people who hit me with Code Red and Nimda attacks had the default "Under Construction" page. Yes, some people are ridiculously stupid, but some others just trusted that Microsoft would set their computer up for the standard user, not for the standard admin.
I was going to various IP's that hit me and it isn't readme.eml, but readme.exe. In IE, it gives the standard "Open or Save" dialog.
I've been hit 689 times today (9:29:35 AM - 12:07:46 PM). On the bright side, I was only hit with Code Red attempts 3 times today. Why do I get the feeling that cables modem providers are going to start shutting off port 80 again?
From: http://help.broadband.att.com/subagreelease.jsp (b) FTP/HTTP Service Setup. Customer should be aware that when using the Service to access the Internet or any other online network or service, there are certain applications, such as FTP (File Transfer Protocol) server or HTTP (Hyper Text Transfer Protocol) server, which may be used to allow other Service users and Internet users to gain access to Customer's computer. If Customer chooses to run such applications, Customer should take the appropriate security measures. Neither AT&T nor @Home Network shall have any liability whatsoever for any claims, losses, actions, damages, suits or proceedings resulting from, arising out of or otherwise relating to the use of such applications by Customer, including without limitation, damages resulting from others accessing Customer's computer.
P.S. Personal link is now broken, thanks to a lot of stupid Windows users.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=01/08/07/19262 12&cid=301. I read my TOS, you obviously didn't.
I looks like it got Slashdotted, anyone got a mirror?
Too bad it came out after the fact. I think it's easier for the media to say "The end of the world is coming!" because people tend not to give backlash if bad things don't end up happening. If this guy wrote the article beforehand and the internet did die, he would have taken a lot of heat about being wrong. It was easy for him write this article after the fact. Then again, the point of his article wasn't to inform us that nothing happened, it was to say why these things aren't really bad to begin with.
Point well taken about "All that is needed for evil to triumph is for the good to do nothing." But in this case, as you suggest, who decides what is evil? I really don't think Microsoft is really that evil. Lots of people here are using Linux or UNIX, so they obviously haven't ruined your life too much. I see what you are saying about good not always automatically winning over evil, but I don't think the lines between good and evil are clearly defined.