"I'm used to this" does not equal "it's better for everyone," just as "I'm not used to this" doesn't mean "it sucks." And it works in both directions. If you are proficient in lightweight editors (VI, etc.), they are fast, effective, and do most of what you need. But there is a learning curve (am I in edit mode? Did I save my changes?). I certainly understand why people, if exposed to both, side by side, for the first time, would choose a GUI-heavy app. And then to have one with pictures in the menu that might indicate what the commands do along with the text - well, just pamper me, whydon'cha!
For those of us who use keyboard shortcuts, I don't believe those have changed, even if the layout of the menu has (did I miss something there?). Since I'm not looking at the menu when executing my shortcuts, it doesn't really matter if they moved the entry (as long as the keystroke combo didn't change), and if I'm looking for something I don't do frequently, I already didn't know where it was, so whether I'm looking through a list of expandable text menus or an already-expanded ribbon, who cares? I don't get the fuss. I really don't. I'm not criticizing those who don't like it, just saying that I really don't see what's so bad about it, as I don't find there to be any drawbacks.
Cue all the "@#$!^@!%$# the Ribbon, and #@$%^@! these guys for caving in and selling out and being sheep and all the other overused phrases I've read on line for years that I can fit in my post.... Argh I'm just SO ANGRY over stuff that I can ignore and still be happy!"
This is actually an excellent point. I did not, of course, RTFA, but how does one go about comparing streaming to CD / ripped audio / over-the-air radio / cable audio stations? I will agree that anecdotally it seems that streaming is likely to be more common, but to make the claim requires empirical evidence.
Yours will likely not be a popular post, but it is entirely valid. CD in 1985 - $15. Equivalent cost in cash in the US today (used an inflation calculator at saving.org) - $36.35. I may (and do) hate DRM, rootkits, mistreatment of artists, and all of the other things we point out about media companies, but the price of albums on CD isn't something we can honestly complain about.
I was curious as to exactly what "a lot more money" might add up to. It doesn't appear to be much,unless just under five grand USD in five months for a million-plus plays is considered a lot in the country in which you live. If you're a big act with, say, 20 tracks that get this kind of attention, that's great, but unfortunately small bands just aren't going to make a real living off this arrangement. Touring and performing is still where it's at for the relative unknowns.
You're correct in that at least the possible exposure to a wider audience is now there, though, and that is certainly a good thing.
You may be in the minority, but you're not alone. I've been using Office since its very first release, and I like the Ribbon UI. As you point out, it is far more consistent than the older menu system, and it can be unpinned so that it only takes up a single line except when clicked on (negating the real-estate complaint of one of your repliers), just like the old text menus. Keyboard shortcuts work just fine, too. I really do believe the dislike is more of a "hey this is new and different and unfamiliar" reaction, as the reasons I've seen people provide thus far don't really hold up.
I have to ask the question - is it easier for this round of newcomers to learn the new interface than it was for the LAST round of newcomers to learn the OLD interface? If not, then yes, the change is bad (or at least, no better than current state); if not, then it was an improvement. Change isn't bad just because things are now different.
Serious question: in today's software environment, is there anything that *doesn't* phone home to report on usage and habits? I have only dabbled with Linux at home and haven't read much about it, so admit my ignorance there, but when we talk phones, PCs (or Macs), browsers, apps, probably even many games, how, short of detaching from the Internet, can one possibly remain "safe." No troll nor snark, seriously would like to hear your thoughts.
If I want $200+ earphones, I'll buy them. But if I want/need $7 cheapies that I can risk losing or destroying without worry, I have that option today - WITHOUT the need for some stupid add-on adapter to use them.
Perhaps for your interests it is good enough. Mine aren't superior to yours, but they must be different, because I search for a lot of things (many highly critically regarded films that I haven't seen) and find that they aren't on Netflix, so yep, I pirate them.
Maybe history, codebreaking, and the passing of a generation of people who did amazing things seems neither interesting nor worthy to you, but trust me, your needless bitching is much less so.
I had a Nokia 920, then a 1520, both running Win Phone 8. For the state of things at the time, they were promising and, honestly, great. More stable than Android at the time (that's anecdotal, but my wife had an Android phone and it seemed to have more issues than my phone did), and was far more customizable than an unrooted iPhone (LiveTiles really is a great idea, IMO). Sadly, the combined hardware-software improvement that came in the move from Phone 7 to Phone 8 was a one-time event, apparently.
As I waited in anticipation for what I hoped would be some ground-breaking software innovations in 10 and fun/useful hardware features to give them life, I was at first in denial, then dismayed, next angry, and finally in acceptance (the ecosystem is diseased, after all) that MS entirely dropped the ball and screwed it all up. I'm no fanboy, but I really did hope for a strong third alternative. Once it was clear that my 1520 wasn't going to physically survive the last time I dropped it, I moved to a Nexus 6P, and I've been very pleased with the experience six months in.
So long, MS - it's your fault that you lost someone who was willing to be a loyal customer if you had shown some competence in the mobile area. I work in IT for a hospital, and can report there were four other people in the department who owned one a year ago, and don't today, so I'm willing to lay odds that you've lost not one, but five. I suspect that 2 million and change will continue to slip downward.
For goodness' sake. Not taking inflation (even modest 1.5-2% matters) and / or higher ticket prices into account makes - as all higher-functioning life forms know (which apparently includes very few people who work in the higher levels of the Hollywood) - any claims of "ALL TIME HIGHEST" just a meaningless bunch of pablum, like many of the industry's products themselves.
Well, I'll put your sarcasm and AC status aside (you probably won't read this) - while a physical media purchase does in theory confer life-long use, parent was pointing out the fact that in order to obtain, for example, the roughly 20 million tracks on Spotify, you'd spend more money than most of us have. Even if you want a small fraction of those tunes, the total expense is still VERY high; factor in the "discoverability" angle and I would say that you really DO get a good deal from most streaming services.
I'm not sure if you've realized this, but it's possible to both subscribe to a streaming service AND buy the music you truly love. Yes, amazing concept, I know. If I buy new discs without knowing what's good, as you pointed out, I could be wasting a lot of money. Now, if I have test-driven the albums/tracks, and KNOW I will want to keep certain said items forever, I am now informed and can spend money wisely. That $120 a year on streaming might save me a few hundred on discs I would have bought & not liked, while still having the benefit of listening to things I haven't purchased outright yet.
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Amen, I say to you! Been an ex-user for five years and counting now. On-line life's never been better.
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"I'm used to this" does not equal "it's better for everyone," just as "I'm not used to this" doesn't mean "it sucks." And it works in both directions. If you are proficient in lightweight editors (VI, etc.), they are fast, effective, and do most of what you need. But there is a learning curve (am I in edit mode? Did I save my changes?). I certainly understand why people, if exposed to both, side by side, for the first time, would choose a GUI-heavy app. And then to have one with pictures in the menu that might indicate what the commands do along with the text - well, just pamper me, whydon'cha!
For those of us who use keyboard shortcuts, I don't believe those have changed, even if the layout of the menu has (did I miss something there?). Since I'm not looking at the menu when executing my shortcuts, it doesn't really matter if they moved the entry (as long as the keystroke combo didn't change), and if I'm looking for something I don't do frequently, I already didn't know where it was, so whether I'm looking through a list of expandable text menus or an already-expanded ribbon, who cares? I don't get the fuss. I really don't. I'm not criticizing those who don't like it, just saying that I really don't see what's so bad about it, as I don't find there to be any drawbacks.
You don't have to use the Ribbon UI. It's simply there for those who either like it or never used Office prior to its introduction.
Cue all the "@#$!^@!%$# the Ribbon, and #@$%^@! these guys for caving in and selling out and being sheep and all the other overused phrases I've read on line for years that I can fit in my post.... Argh I'm just SO ANGRY over stuff that I can ignore and still be happy!"
Where was the "kaboom?" There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering "kaboom!"
Probably depends upon your age.
This is actually an excellent point. I did not, of course, RTFA, but how does one go about comparing streaming to CD / ripped audio / over-the-air radio / cable audio stations? I will agree that anecdotally it seems that streaming is likely to be more common, but to make the claim requires empirical evidence.
I used to play bass for "Dirty & Sharp"
Yours will likely not be a popular post, but it is entirely valid. CD in 1985 - $15. Equivalent cost in cash in the US today (used an inflation calculator at saving.org) - $36.35. I may (and do) hate DRM, rootkits, mistreatment of artists, and all of the other things we point out about media companies, but the price of albums on CD isn't something we can honestly complain about.
I was curious as to exactly what "a lot more money" might add up to. It doesn't appear to be much,unless just under five grand USD in five months for a million-plus plays is considered a lot in the country in which you live. If you're a big act with, say, 20 tracks that get this kind of attention, that's great, but unfortunately small bands just aren't going to make a real living off this arrangement. Touring and performing is still where it's at for the relative unknowns.
You're correct in that at least the possible exposure to a wider audience is now there, though, and that is certainly a good thing.
You may be in the minority, but you're not alone. I've been using Office since its very first release, and I like the Ribbon UI. As you point out, it is far more consistent than the older menu system, and it can be unpinned so that it only takes up a single line except when clicked on (negating the real-estate complaint of one of your repliers), just like the old text menus. Keyboard shortcuts work just fine, too. I really do believe the dislike is more of a "hey this is new and different and unfamiliar" reaction, as the reasons I've seen people provide thus far don't really hold up.
...change is almost always bad.
I have to ask the question - is it easier for this round of newcomers to learn the new interface than it was for the LAST round of newcomers to learn the OLD interface? If not, then yes, the change is bad (or at least, no better than current state); if not, then it was an improvement. Change isn't bad just because things are now different.
Serious question: in today's software environment, is there anything that *doesn't* phone home to report on usage and habits? I have only dabbled with Linux at home and haven't read much about it, so admit my ignorance there, but when we talk phones, PCs (or Macs), browsers, apps, probably even many games, how, short of detaching from the Internet, can one possibly remain "safe." No troll nor snark, seriously would like to hear your thoughts.
I don't know why, but this made me laugh.
Wow. Most assholes post AC; mad props to you for just putting yourself right out there. You could have stopped at the third sentence.
Amen brother / sister.
If I want $200+ earphones, I'll buy them. But if I want/need $7 cheapies that I can risk losing or destroying without worry, I have that option today - WITHOUT the need for some stupid add-on adapter to use them.
"The audio connector is more than 100 years old," Joswiak says.
The wheel a very old invention. It seems to still be pretty useful, if simple. Old age doesn't imply end of life.
...the variety is quite good...
Perhaps for your interests it is good enough. Mine aren't superior to yours, but they must be different, because I search for a lot of things (many highly critically regarded films that I haven't seen) and find that they aren't on Netflix, so yep, I pirate them.
Maybe history, codebreaking, and the passing of a generation of people who did amazing things seems neither interesting nor worthy to you, but trust me, your needless bitching is much less so.
I had a Nokia 920, then a 1520, both running Win Phone 8. For the state of things at the time, they were promising and, honestly, great. More stable than Android at the time (that's anecdotal, but my wife had an Android phone and it seemed to have more issues than my phone did), and was far more customizable than an unrooted iPhone (LiveTiles really is a great idea, IMO). Sadly, the combined hardware-software improvement that came in the move from Phone 7 to Phone 8 was a one-time event, apparently.
As I waited in anticipation for what I hoped would be some ground-breaking software innovations in 10 and fun/useful hardware features to give them life, I was at first in denial, then dismayed, next angry, and finally in acceptance (the ecosystem is diseased, after all) that MS entirely dropped the ball and screwed it all up. I'm no fanboy, but I really did hope for a strong third alternative. Once it was clear that my 1520 wasn't going to physically survive the last time I dropped it, I moved to a Nexus 6P, and I've been very pleased with the experience six months in.
So long, MS - it's your fault that you lost someone who was willing to be a loyal customer if you had shown some competence in the mobile area. I work in IT for a hospital, and can report there were four other people in the department who owned one a year ago, and don't today, so I'm willing to lay odds that you've lost not one, but five. I suspect that 2 million and change will continue to slip downward.
Well, thieves get what other people pay for.
For goodness' sake. Not taking inflation (even modest 1.5-2% matters) and / or higher ticket prices into account makes - as all higher-functioning life forms know (which apparently includes very few people who work in the higher levels of the Hollywood) - any claims of "ALL TIME HIGHEST" just a meaningless bunch of pablum, like many of the industry's products themselves.
Well, I'll put your sarcasm and AC status aside (you probably won't read this) - while a physical media purchase does in theory confer life-long use, parent was pointing out the fact that in order to obtain, for example, the roughly 20 million tracks on Spotify, you'd spend more money than most of us have. Even if you want a small fraction of those tunes, the total expense is still VERY high; factor in the "discoverability" angle and I would say that you really DO get a good deal from most streaming services.
I'm not sure if you've realized this, but it's possible to both subscribe to a streaming service AND buy the music you truly love. Yes, amazing concept, I know. If I buy new discs without knowing what's good, as you pointed out, I could be wasting a lot of money. Now, if I have test-driven the albums/tracks, and KNOW I will want to keep certain said items forever, I am now informed and can spend money wisely. That $120 a year on streaming might save me a few hundred on discs I would have bought & not liked, while still having the benefit of listening to things I haven't purchased outright yet.
Edit, sorry - $3,000 to $4,000, of course.... :(