However, does the US expect half the world to come marching in
You underestimate how long it takes to bring a military up to fighting readiness. The US learned a hard lesson in WWI when we had to start from nearly scratch to raise an army (especially to fight an unpopular war). If we were invaded at that point things would have been very difficult on us. By WWII we were much more capable of defending ourselves from Japan (If you're European you may not remember that there was a little scuffle in the Pacific that nearly nobody helped us with).
I think you're spot on. I heard Hector Ruiz recently talking (on CNBC I think) about how Intel had lots of inventory to move, and how it's and advantage for AMD to not have so much old stock to push out the door.
TikiWiki allows for the creation of image and file galleries. It even allows for one to upload an entire directory at a time. Uses a DB backend though...
If you pay taxes chances are the government has done something on your behalf that you think is immoral. Does that make you immoral too? If so, post your resume to the same mafia...
But using that logic it's impossible for Google to ever be 'good' and still exist as an entity. But that may be your (and all the 'corporations are evil because they make money' folks) point.
This is not good vs. bad. There are many shades of gray here. What I'm saying is that Google slipped slightly towards the black on the scale, but not far enough to be considered 'evil'.
Think of it this way, if Google providing search to China is seen as "good", then how is it "good" to remove support completely?
Soooo, Google gains 1 *billion* viewers, but loses one. I'm afraid you simply don't have a bargaining position on this one...
Do you boycott every company that does dealings with China then? I presume you buy very little...
Since when do companies have the moral duty of making countries better? Isn't that the job of government? *I'm* upset that the US government hasn't jumped in on the side of Google, Yahoo, and MSN. It's the state that should be saying "we won't allow you to censor our companies." That would give the three a level playing field (rather than "well, if you won't censor somebody else will").
I think the word 'evil' has become quite watered down lately. Anything not perfect and good is not "evil."
Lets look at this a bit more rationally. Google provides a search service - arguably the best in the world - for the internet. I would call this 'good' and I think many would agree. China, however, has laws which make it illegal for Google to display results to certain searches properly. They "ask " Google to comply.
Google now has effectively two options. Comply and censor some searches, or don't comply and not be allowed use by anybody in China.
Compliance: Google provides a 'slightly broken' search system to the residents of China. They do, however, note on their site that the results may have been limited due to state laws.
Non-Compliance: Google would not be usable at all in China.
I would say that Google is doing 'less good' than they would if results were not censored. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that their actions themselves are 'evil.' The actions of the state of China *are*, however, evil. But doing 'less good' when a state is forcing your hand is *hardly* evil.
Now if google employees were told to 'gas' members of the population, we're talking something very different. 'Gassing' people is evil, not 'less good'.
You *do* realize you're comparing an iPod with a hard drive against a SanDisk play with flash media, right? Try your comparisions against the nano and see how they fare...
And nothing says "street cred" like a modern Western corporation. Hey, I be down wit dat, um, dogg... or word, or whatever. Shizzle-something.
I think you give suburban middle-class kids with lots of 'guilt money' *far* too much credit. Take a trip to a local high school - you'll see more walking billboards than at a NASCAR event...
Corporations have figured out teens for some time now.
Now don't mistake me for a Rush fan-boy, but I think their problem was that the crime he was accused of is very rarely prosecuted. They feel his popularity (and obvious political slant) was the cause of his 'special' treatment in the matter.
And now they're even more mad because Patches Kennedy almost killed a cop in his little joy-ride, and isn't even investigated until well after the press got wind of what happened. And even then it wasn't as big a deal as Rush's problem. Though Rush's little incident was perhaps a bit more 'ironic' which may be why it got much more press, as opposed to yet another drunken Kennedy story.
And being driven home by the police and being told "don't do it again" is hardly a serious investigation.
Compared to what has been done to Rush Limbaugh for a similar problem (though he didn't nearly hit a police car) I'd say the Kennedy incident was nicely 'swept' under the rug. Like father like son...
Ugh, or even how to deal with 'root' properly during their installs? "This program won't run as root?" It's a friggin' installer! Then later on it tells you "here, run these scripts as root then click 'next' to continue?" Friggin' aweful.
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Just sorta FYI, but though wine is aged "older" is not "better." Most wine would be bad after 10 years.
Yes! I say we go back to the good old days (what, 80 years ago?) of British colonialism. The world was a much better place when the UK ran it!
You underestimate how long it takes to bring a military up to fighting readiness. The US learned a hard lesson in WWI when we had to start from nearly scratch to raise an army (especially to fight an unpopular war). If we were invaded at that point things would have been very difficult on us. By WWII we were much more capable of defending ourselves from Japan (If you're European you may not remember that there was a little scuffle in the Pacific that nearly nobody helped us with).
Most other nations do too. What good is a police force that has no ability to enforce what it wants?
I think you're spot on. I heard Hector Ruiz recently talking (on CNBC I think) about how Intel had lots of inventory to move, and how it's and advantage for AMD to not have so much old stock to push out the door.
TikiWiki allows for the creation of image and file galleries. It even allows for one to upload an entire directory at a time. Uses a DB backend though...
If you pay taxes chances are the government has done something on your behalf that you think is immoral. Does that make you immoral too? If so, post your resume to the same mafia...
But using that logic it's impossible for Google to ever be 'good' and still exist as an entity. But that may be your (and all the 'corporations are evil because they make money' folks) point.
Think of it this way, if Google providing search to China is seen as "good", then how is it "good" to remove support completely?
Do you boycott every company that does dealings with China then? I presume you buy very little...
Since when do companies have the moral duty of making countries better? Isn't that the job of government? *I'm* upset that the US government hasn't jumped in on the side of Google, Yahoo, and MSN. It's the state that should be saying "we won't allow you to censor our companies." That would give the three a level playing field (rather than "well, if you won't censor somebody else will").
Tell me, how would Google withdrawing completely from China "help" its citizens more than providing crippled search would?
Lets look at this a bit more rationally. Google provides a search service - arguably the best in the world - for the internet. I would call this 'good' and I think many would agree. China, however, has laws which make it illegal for Google to display results to certain searches properly. They "ask " Google to comply.
Google now has effectively two options. Comply and censor some searches, or don't comply and not be allowed use by anybody in China.
Compliance: Google provides a 'slightly broken' search system to the residents of China. They do, however, note on their site that the results may have been limited due to state laws.
Non-Compliance: Google would not be usable at all in China.
I would say that Google is doing 'less good' than they would if results were not censored. But I wouldn't go so far as to say that their actions themselves are 'evil.' The actions of the state of China *are*, however, evil. But doing 'less good' when a state is forcing your hand is *hardly* evil.
Now if google employees were told to 'gas' members of the population, we're talking something very different. 'Gassing' people is evil, not 'less good'.
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Man, if you have to ask you'll never know... I figured 'free labor' was pretty obvious.
You *do* realize you're comparing an iPod with a hard drive against a SanDisk play with flash media, right? Try your comparisions against the nano and see how they fare...
And nothing says "street cred" like a modern Western corporation. Hey, I be down wit dat, um, dogg... or word, or whatever. Shizzle-something.
I think you give suburban middle-class kids with lots of 'guilt money' *far* too much credit. Take a trip to a local high school - you'll see more walking billboards than at a NASCAR event...
Corporations have figured out teens for some time now.
The nice thing about supporting it on the router though is that it would be a net-net VPN, rather than a host-net VPN.
BTW, what the hell am I supposed to get out of a post telling me an article is a dupe anyway?
Soooo, somebody else could later figure out why it killed you? :-)
Listen to the tomato. Isn't it sad? He can't sing. Poor tomato!
Wow. Slashdot is the *last* place I expected to see a line from the "Dance of the Cucumber!" :-)
And now they're even more mad because Patches Kennedy almost killed a cop in his little joy-ride, and isn't even investigated until well after the press got wind of what happened. And even then it wasn't as big a deal as Rush's problem. Though Rush's little incident was perhaps a bit more 'ironic' which may be why it got much more press, as opposed to yet another drunken Kennedy story.
Compared to what has been done to Rush Limbaugh for a similar problem (though he didn't nearly hit a police car) I'd say the Kennedy incident was nicely 'swept' under the rug. Like father like son...
Like a frightened turtle! - Jerry
Gawd I hate Oracle...
Did you mean for your last sentence to prove my point? Thanks! :-)